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1d ago

Vote on the Jeffrey Awards: https://forms.gle/zC29GEAgUJBKNn8T6 I brought the cowboy hat out for this one, because Month of Jeff needed full giddy up vibes. Jeff “Bronco Billy” Browning is back, and we go everywhere: Cocodona’s weird and wonderful rise into a spectator cult phenomenon, the tiny weather window that makes that race possible, and what it feels like when you are having one of those perfect days in a hundred. Jeff talks about his best races ever (including a scorching San Diego 100 and a 19:33 at Wasatch), and what actually made them click, training blocks, timing, and yes, a little luck. We also get nerdy and practical with an underrated, overrated, properly rated game, covering trail super shoes (carbon on trail, and why the foam matters more), heat training, speedwork for ultra runners (hello zone 3), and why you have to practice race nutrition in training if you want race day to feel automatic. Then we time travel to the early 2000s when ultra gear was basically a fishing vest era, handheld bottles ruled, poles were not a thing, and race nutrition was gels, S-caps, and hope. Jeff shares how mentorship and group long runs shaped the scene back then, and why adventure running and storytelling still matter more than a stat on a results page. We also get into the realities of long efforts and sleep deprivation, including why Jeff would choose self-supported if he goes long again (less complaining, more problem solving). And yes, there are animal stories, including some genuinely terrifying mountain lion encounters, plus the lightning strike moment at Hardrock that led to one of the most ultrarunning reasons ever to change your earrings. To close it out, Jeff breaks down how he made hundreds work while raising a family, with a simple framework: flexible training, non-negotiable family time, and getting creative with when long runs happen. We finish with what is next, some training races, Cocodona, a Western States swing, and the itch to do more adventure style projects. Sponsors: Janji, Garage Grown Gear, CS Coffee Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background 05:48 Cocodona 250: Growth and Popularity 08:38 Memorable Races and Personal Bests 11:51 The Mental and Physical Toll of Long Distances 14:44 Self-Supported vs. Supported Racing 17:48 The Shift in Running Focus: Adventure vs. Competition 20:55 The Importance of Storytelling in Running 23:51 Training Insights: Speedwork and Nutrition 28:29 Preparing for Race Day: The Importance of Training Camps 30:00 Evolution of Gear: Trends from the Early 2000s 33:09 Nutrition and Hydration: Lessons from the Past 35:46 The Social Aspect of Ultra Running: Mentorship and Community 39:43 From Hobby to Career: The Journey of an Ultra Runner 42:36 Race Directing: The Challenges and Rewards 45:42 Wildlife Encounters: Stories from the Trail 55:18 Balancing Family Life and Ultra Running 56:10 Balancing Work and Family Life 59:00 Creating Quality Family Time 01:02:58 Navigating Technology and Family Connections 01:03:50 The Story Behind the Earrings 01:10:13 Future Plans and Upcoming Races 01:18:39 Introduction and Community Connection 01:22:40 The Importance of Supportive Relationships 01:26:49 Fostering a Positive Community Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

4d ago

The Month of Jeff keeps rolling, and today we are giving the thru-hiking world some love. I tracked down a Jeff who just finished the Appalachian Trail in 2025, Jeff Coull, the guy behind the coullbean.com blog. Jeffreys Nomination Form: https://forms.gle/FiW9ZKNpiXoWb8MJ8 Follow Jeff on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coullbean/ Jeff wanted to hike the AT for almost a decade, but in 2024 it stopped being a “someday” goal and became a “need to.” We talk about the scariest part of committing to a long trail, the conversation with his girlfriend Robin, and how doing something huge does not have to come from tragedy or running away from your life. We get into the details that make a thru hike real: early mistakes (starting too fast, an ankle ligament barking, a sleeping pad that died for two straight weeks), figuring out resupplies when you are basically learning in public, and the constant debate between pop tarts and protein. There is also a strong case made for frozen burritos thawing on the outside of your pack, plus the harsh reality of FarOut water comments when Maine is dry. Jeff carried a “Robin Rock” most of the trail, hid it in plant photos to see if she would notice, and accidentally created a recurring side quest by leaving it behind and coordinating a rescue mission. He also carried a sealed ICE letter from Robin all the way to Katahdin and only opened it on top, which is where the emotions finally caught up. We also talk about trail friendships, why it is so easy to connect with people out there, and how Jeff’s view of the “trail family” idea changed once he got confident enough to make his own plan. Then there is the moment in Tennessee when a “power hiking song” conversation turned into an unexpected hour of Freebird on repeat, and a big lesson about forgiveness and leaving old baggage behind. To wrap it up, we hit quick hitters: favorite trail town, best meal, best trail name he heard, what the whole thing cost, and the lesson that kept coming back over and over, be gentle with yourself. Sponsors: Janji, Garage Grown Gear, CS Coffee. Chapters 00:00 The Journey Begins: Aspirations and Realizations 05:22 Navigating Relationships: Conversations with Loved Ones 08:25 Symbolic Connections: The Robin Rock 11:25 The Learning Curve: First Experiences on the Trail 14:13 Dreams and Goals: The Call of the AT 17:28 Life Changes: Quitting the Job for Adventure 20:21 Challenges of Thru-Hiking: The Reality vs. Expectations 23:29 Building Confidence: Finding Your Own Path 26:17 Nutrition on the Trail: The Food Dilemma 29:21 The Importance of Gut Health: Eating Fresh on the Trail 30:53 Trail Nutrition: Creative Food Choices 34:24 Adversity on the Trail: Overcoming Challenges 39:13 Building Connections: The Social Aspect of Hiking 45:32 Moments of Transformation: Personal Growth on the Trail 58:41 The Challenge of Water Scarcity 01:01:15 Emotional Reflections on Completing the Trail 01:03:27 Slowing Down to Savor the Experience 01:06:21 The Emotional Climax at Katahdin 01:12:18 Trail Towns and Memorable Meals 01:15:27 Lessons Learned and Future Adventures Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Dec 16

I sit down with yet another Jeff, but this one took things to a different level. Over the course of October and November, he completed 122 laps of the Manitou Incline, nearly a mile and over 2,000 feet of gain per lap, turning one of the most brutal stair climbs in the country into a month-long experiment in mental resilience. What started as training for a future unsupported FKT evolved into something much bigger. A Navy veteran with multiple deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan, he shares how his nervous system adapted to years in combat and why returning to everyday civilian life felt overwhelming. Loud environments, crowds, and constant inputs became difficult, while long, repetitive movement in nature helped turn the volume back down. We talk about why hiking and rucking can work where therapy and medication do not for some veterans, how mundane suffering and repetition create space for processing trauma, and why unsupported FKTs and long efforts with weight may be a wide-open niche for athletes with military backgrounds. He explains how the incline project became a fundraiser and awareness campaign for Warrior Expeditions, a veteran-led nonprofit that helps veterans heal through long-distance hiking. This conversation dives into combat stress, family life, fatherhood, endurance, mental health, and the simple power of left foot, right foot. It is a powerful reminder that the outdoors offers different things to different people, and sometimes the hardest, most boring path is the one that helps us heal the most. Check out Warrier Expeditions: https://warriorexpeditions.org/ Follow Jeff Snyder: https://www.instagram.com/jsnydersoloadventures/ Chapters 00:00 The Manitou Incline Challenge 05:10 Mental Resilience Through Hiking 07:41 The Impact of Combat on Mental Health 10:07 Nature as a Healing Tool 13:01 The Role of Community in Recovery 15:36 Fundraising for Warrior Expeditions 17:58 Accidental Discoveries in Nature 20:35 Transitioning from Rucking to Hiking 23:15 The Importance of Mindset in Outdoor Challenges 25:23 Unexpected Changes in Combat Situations 28:01 Daily Life and the Incline Challenge 30:31 Supporting Veterans Through Outdoor Activities Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Dec 14

It is Month of Jeff, so its time to talk to another Jeff, Jeff Pelletier. Jeff had a huge 2025. He paced and crewed at Cocodona, then took on Badwater 135 and followed it up with the inaugural Mammoth 200. We go deep on Badwater, why he was drawn to a race the core of the community has kind of fallen out of love with, and why he thinks it might be the hardest race in the world to crew. No aid stations, constant leapfrogging, the rulebook, the blinky lights, the penalties, and the reality of managing sleep, food, gas, and ice in Death Valley. Then we shift to Mammoth 200. What the course was like in year one, why it is going to be a major 200 because of how runnable and crewable it is, and how finishing timing completely changed the race experience once the weather rolled in. Jeff also talks about altitude issues, his first time puking in a race, and how it felt to miss his Badwater goals but still finish and learn something important. We also get into the filmmaker side, outsourcing rough cuts, what it is like trying to race and produce at the same time, the weirdest things he has done for a shot, and why telling the story can sometimes be the thing that keeps you moving forward. We wrap with what is next for Jeff, including Croatia, Spartathlon, Cape Town, and the always painful lottery season. This episode of the Free Outside Podcast is brought to you by Janji, Garage Grown Gear, and CS Instant Coffee. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Overview of Badwater 135 07:11 The Challenge of Crewing at Badwater 09:57 Logistics and Rules of the Race 13:00 The Unique Terrain and Conditions 16:14 Heat Management Strategies 19:06 Hydration and Sodium Management 22:04 Final Thoughts and Reflections on the Experience 26:45 Testing Limits: Fluid and Electrolyte Management 28:49 Data Collection in Extreme Conditions 31:06 Balancing Filmmaking and Performance 33:41 Lessons from Badwater: Setting Realistic Goals 35:52 Transitioning to Mammoth: New Challenges Ahead 37:06 Experiencing Coca-Dona: A Unique Race 38:26 Mammoth's Inaugural Year: A Mixed Bag 43:45 Resetting Goals: From Badwater to Mammoth 48:01 The Unique Culture of Ultra Running 50:04 The Rise of 200-Mile Races 53:03 Storytelling in Ultra Running 53:39 The Editing Process of Race Films 56:50 Behind the Scenes of Filming Races 01:03:00 Gear Recommendations and Future Plans Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Dec 11

Help us with our Jeffrey Award Winners by voting here: https://forms.gle/GAcHKf5QZrR7GAR79 The Month of Jeff continues with another elite Jeff: Jeff Dengate, better known on the internet as @dengatorade. Jeff is the director of product testing and de facto runner in chief at Runner’s World, and one of the most experienced shoe and gear testers in the world. He walks me through how Runner’s World actually tests shoes with hundreds of wear testers, why some products never make it to a review, and how he personally ends up in well over 100 different pairs of shoes every year. We get into what trust looks like in the age of AI, affiliate links, and endless gear noise, and why having a real human you can bump into at a race still matters. Jeff talks about the changing landscape at Runner’s World, the COVID running boom, how trail and ultra fit into the broader running world, and why the world marathon majors craze is exploding. We cover super shoes, sky high prices, why comfort still rules, why you probably do not need a 300 dollar racer to start running, and yes, we revisit my infamous Runner’s World Crocs 5K headline. We finish with his case for Jeff of the Year, including BQing three times in a year and rotating through more shoes than most runners log runs. Follow Jeff Dengate: https://www.instagram.com/dengaterade Show supported by Janji.com, Garagegrowngear.com, and CSinstant.coffee Chapters 04:00 Introduction to Dengatorade and Running Background 06:54 Role at Runner's World and Product Testing 09:38 The Art of Product Reviews 12:26 Navigating AI in the Running Community 15:08 Revenue Streams and Content Creation at Runner's World 17:50 Understanding Runner's Needs and Popular Topics 20:43 Shoe Testing and Personal Experiences 23:25 Finding the Right Shoe for You 25:59 The Evolution of Running Gear and Nutrition 28:59 Excitement in Running and Gear Unboxing 31:42 Jeff's Unique Journey to the NBA 37:16 The Journey of a Sports Journalist 40:06 Impact of COVID-19 on Running Community 43:33 The Growth of Trail and Ultra Running 48:20 Trends in the Running Industry Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Dec 8

Vote for the Jeffrey Awards: https://forms.gle/2JaYdBFdogo2hTXP8 During the Month of Jeff I, sit down with a true Jeff of the Year contender, Jeff Mogavero. We cover a wild range of topics, from his fourth place curse at big races to winning Ultra Trail Cape Town, getting married, and somehow deciding Montana Cup might outrank all of it. Follow Jeff Mogavero: https://www.instagram.com/jeffmogavero/ Jeff walks through his dirtbag origin story, hitchhiking around the West on almost no money, racing for gas and grocery money, surveying fish and frogs for seasonal biology jobs, and eventually moving to Missoula to see if he could actually make a run at professional trail running. We talk about his Appalachian Trail thru hike, how he ended up with the trail name “Burger King,” his barefoot college phase, and why he once bailed on a “Number One Dad” hat. Then we get nerdy about performance. Jeff explains the science experiment heat chamber protocol he did for Western States, why he thinks heat training is overrated, and why cooling, ice bandanas, and sun protection are underrated superpowers. We dig into Montana Cup, the quiet training culture in Montana, and why adult cross country with a potluck might be the best event in running. Of course, as our official Taylor Swift correspondent, Jeff breaks down the new album, the Taylor Swift treadmill workout, and how he ended up in the top 2 percent of her listeners while also growing 25 to 30 pounds of potatoes and going through 100 pounds of flour. We finish with his dramatic finish line collapses, his case for being Jeff of the Year, and why potatoes, leeks, and Swift might be the real performance trifecta. If you like stories about hitchhiking, dirtbag seasons, science-backed heat preparation, tiny Montana races that mean everything, and a professional runner who is not afraid to be a little dramatic, this episode is for you. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Jeff Mogavero 07:30 Racing Highlights and Personal Achievements 10:25 Journey to Becoming a Pro Runner 13:22 Living the Life of a Runner 16:24 Hitchhiking Adventures and Human Connections 19:25 Barefoot Jeff and Life Experiences 22:12 Heat Training Protocols and Strategies 28:20 Cooling Strategies for Racing 34:23 Philosophy on Training and Performance 41:35 The Importance of Training and Recovery 44:24 Taylor Swift: The Soundtrack to Training 52:21 The Role of a Good Coach 56:22 Trail Names and Their Stories 01:01:22 Dramatic Finishes and Personal Reflections Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Dec 5

I sit down with one of the true architects of modern running, Jeff Galloway. From making the 1972 Olympic team as an unexpected underdog to creating the RunWalkRun method used by millions of runners today, Jeff’s story is packed with history, perspective, and wisdom that still applies right now. We talk about the emotional crash that can come after achieving a massive goal, something I relate to deeply after finishing the Appalachian Trail record, and how that post-Olympic low pushed Jeff to open one of the very first specialty running stores in the world, Phidippides. That store became the foundation for the running boom, community run clubs, and the coaching systems that followed. Jeff breaks down how RunWalkRun was created, why taking walk breaks early actually makes runners faster, and how the data shows average improvements of around seven minutes in the half marathon and thirteen minutes in the marathon. We also dig into his Olympic era training, 140-mile weeks, mile repeats, long runs past marathon distance, and why most training principles today still mirror what worked fifty years ago. We go deep on his friendship with Steve Prefontaine, the early fight for professionalism in the sport, the birth of the Peachtree Road Race, and how those moments shaped modern running as we know it. Jeff also shares his approach to mental training, mantras, step counting, and how meaning is the real fuel behind long term consistency. To close it out, Jeff tells an incredible story about chasing a marathon in eight different decades of life at age eighty, coming back from a heart attack, a fractured toe, and weeks of forced rest to toe the line once again. This episode is equal parts history lesson, coaching clinic, and reminder of why running can be a lifelong pursuit. Find Jeff's books and Jeff online: JeffGalloway.com This episode is brought to you by Janji, Garage Grown Gear, and CS Coffee. Chapters 00:00 The Olympic Journey: Triumphs and Challenges 03:41 From Athlete to Entrepreneur: The Birth of a Running Store 07:07 Navigating Life After Competition: Finding New Goals 10:57 Training Insights: The Evolution of Running Techniques 14:14 The Impact of Steve Prefontaine on Professional Running 26:30 Reflections on Running Culture and Trends 32:19 The Legacy of Pre and Athlete Rights 35:41 Building a Running Community 40:04 The Birth of the Galloway Method 48:49 RunWalkRun: A Game Changer 54:41 Mental Strategies for Endurance 57:20 The Eight Decade Challenge Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Dec 1

Get yourself a Crotch Pot: https://snp.link/cd93a18d In this solo Month of Jeff episode, I go deep on one of the strangest and coolest studies I have read in a while. It looks at capsaicin, the compound that makes hot peppers spicy, and how a small 12 milligram capsule taken before exercise can actually make you faster, more powerful, and more resistant to fatigue without raising heart rate or perceived effort. I break down what the researchers found, how it works on the brain, nerves, and muscles, and whether you should be popping pepper pills before your next workout. From there I talk about why the classic 10 percent rule is being used wrong, and why it is your longest run, not your total weekly mileage, that really drives injury risk. I get into how I think about long runs and intensity in my own coaching, and why slow, boring progress is still the best way to stay healthy. I also wander through crotch pots and backcountry bidets as gift ideas, putting down your phone and reclaiming boredom, Thanksgiving with 30 people, why AI scares me for books and movies, and the difference between style and fashion on planes, and trails. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Month of Jeff 01:54 The Crotch Pot: A Unique Hiking Gadget 04:42 Capsaicin and Its Impact on Athletic Performance 09:27 Rethinking the 10% Rule in Running 11:46 The Importance of Disconnecting from Technology 14:03 Thanksgiving Reflections and Family Gatherings 15:29 Concerns About AI and Creativity 17:20 Fashion vs. Style: Perception and Personality 20:39 The Evolving Landscape of Sports and Sponsorships Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Nov 28

XO Toes Toe Socks by XO Skin LINK: https://snp.link/91093634 Enlightened Equipment Revelation Apex Synthetic Quilt LINK: https://snp.link/dd815a33 Light AF Packs LINK: https://snp.link/092cbf3e Naked Running Belt LINK: https://nakedsportsinnovations.com/products/naked%C2%AE-running-band Raid LF 2 Belt LINK: https://snp.link/32e52894 Ultraspire Lumen 800 Solstice (Headlamp + Waist Light) LINK: https://snp.link/bd7aaac2 ReadyWise Breakfast Skillet (Jeff Garmire Meal) LINK: https://www.walmart.com/ip/PM-BREAKFAST-SKILLET/15209400162?classType=REGULAR&from=/search Trail Goods Co. Stir Fry Noodle LINK: https://snp.link/ec3d0444 Gossamer Gear LT5 Poles LINK: https://snp.link/d415be06 Sawyer Stay-Put Sunscreen LINK: https://amzn.to/4pswF0m Sawyer Permethrin LINK: https://rei.pxf.io/xL4ZYd Janji Vortex Gloves LINK: https://snp.link/b5b62b40 This is a quick holiday bonus episode of the Free Outside Podcast where I run through the gear, food, and small things that actually worked for me over the last year. No hype, no rankings, just what I used, why I liked it, and where it fit into real training, FKTs, Cocodona, and the Appalachian Trail. We start with one of life’s great unanswered questions, why don’t airports have gyms, then move straight into toe socks, synthetic quilts, custom packs, running belts, lights, freeze-dried meals, trekking poles, sunscreen, permethrin, and cold-weather gloves. Some of these are affiliated, most are not. I will always tell you which is which. If you need holiday gift ideas for an ultrarunner, a thru-hiker, or someone who just likes to be unreasonably prepared, this episode gives you a real-world short list. Take it or leave it. Either way, I hope it saves you some time and maybe a little money. Janji (Sponsor) https://janji.com Code: FREEOUTSIDE Garage Grown Gear (Sponsor) https://garagegrowngear.com CS Instant Coffee (Sponsor) https://csinstant.coffee This episode is brought to you by Janji at janji.com (code FREEOUTSIDE), Garage Grown Gear at garagegrowngear.com, and CS Instant Coffee at csinstant.coffee. Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Nov 27

This is a Thanksgiving special episode of the Free Outside Podcast, a mix of long-run thoughts, unpopular opinions, and one of the most meaningful adventures of my life, the Great Western Loop. I talk about why I think we are historically illiterate, why it is okay to chase goals even if they feel pointless to other people, whether turkey trots have gotten too serious, and my very important theory on whether drones killed the blimp. I also get into why self-supported FKTs matter so much to me and why I think they deserve more respect than they get. Then I rewind eight years to finishing the Great Western Loop on Thanksgiving. I break down what the Loop actually is, how I planned the massive cross-country connector from the Grand Canyon back to the PCT, why self-supported style creates better adventure, and some of the wildest moments from the entire 7,000-mile journey. From cowbell mornings on the Pacific Northwest Trail, to getting all the bikers in Yaak, Montana in trouble for cooking 20 pounds of bacon, to freezing on the CDT, navigating by map and compass on the Grand Enchantment Trail, sleeping in the bottom of the Grand Canyon, and finishing on Thanksgiving near Parker, Arizona. This adventure changed the entire direction of my life and planted the seed for every FKT that followed. This episode is brought to you by Janji at janji.com. Use code FREEOUTSIDE for 10 percent off. Also brought to you by CS Instant Coffee at csinstant.coffee and Garage Grown Gear at garagegrowngear.com Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Chapters 00:00 Thanksgiving Intro 02:15 Historically Illiterate 03:50 Turkey Trot Travelers 04:35 Did Drones Kill Blimps 06:10 Supported vs Self-Supported 08:30 What Is the Great Western Loop 10:45 Planning the Unknown 13:55 Prescribed Burn Detour 15:45 Cowbells and Solitude 16:55 Yak, Montana and the Bacon Incident 18:25 Snow on the CDT 19:20 Grand Enchantment Navigation 20:40 First View of the Grand Canyon 22:15 Nolan’s 14 Detour 24:10 Thanksgiving Van Build Camp 25:40 Finishing the Loop 26:50 Full Circle Reflection Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Nov 25

I get back into the rhythm after my little sabbatical and dive into a packed rundown across the endurance world. I start with the history and results of the JFK 50, why JFK himself helped create 50 milers, and how the Kennedy Cup still defines the military competition at the race. Then I shift to the NCAA cross country championships and go deeper into what name, image, and likeness changes have done to college sports. I explain why the development pipeline in running is shrinking, why teams are becoming more shallow, and what that means for the future of American distance running. I talk through some of the wild course cutting I saw, break down the top finishers in the men’s and women’s races, and then move on to a little Montana segment. Montana State won the Brawl of the Wild, Montana won the food drive, and both towns raised over a million pounds of food. It was a good reminder that community efforts still matter. From there I get into the study I have been wanting to talk about. It looks at the long term ceiling for sustainable human endurance output and why 2.5 times your basal metabolic rate seems to be the upper limit over months. I explain what that means for ultras, FKTs, and training, and why more is not always better even if you are fueling well. There is a real plateau to what we can sustain, and I compare that to my own seven week Appalachian Trail push. Janji, CS Coffee, and Garage Grown Gear help power the show! Chapters 00:00 Intro 04:00 JFK 50 recap 10:00 NCAA cross country and NIL fallout 18:00 Course cutting and race depth 23:00 Montana updates and food drive 27:00 The metabolic ceiling study 38:00 Sponsors and closing Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Nov 21

The P word. Purpose. After putting out more than 170 episodes in the past two years, I finally needed a break. The fall has been a rocky road, one of my favorite ice cream flavors, but also a tough stretch mentally. So I stepped back, went into the mountains, left the watch at home, and spent real time reconnecting with why I love moving through the outdoors. I talk about losing the sense of purpose that was so clear every single day on the Appalachian Trail FKT, and what it feels like when that structure vanishes overnight. I get into distraction, mental health, being overwhelmed by the noise of the world, and how easy it is to tear people down online. I also share why purpose matters, how I tried to find mine again, and how getting outside remains the one environment where I can think clearly, communicate honestly, and feel grounded. Then we jump into Trail TMZ. A wild update on the Grand Teton FKT switchback case, including the surprise presidential pardon that shook trail running. A Badwater 135 movie in the works with a Hollywood star attached. Montana State football chaos. And three major women’s records falling at Tunnel Hill. I close with some thoughts on brands, expectations, therapy, bandwidth, identity, and why the outdoors continues to be the most reliable entryway to clarity in my life. Brought to you by long-time supporters Janji, CS Coffee, and Garage Grown Gear. Support the show on Patreon and leave a five star review if you enjoy it. It is okay to take a break. It is okay to say you are not doing well. Thanks for sticking around while I found a little purpose again. Chapters 00:00 Finding Purpose in Nature 05:10 The Impact of Community and Kindness 10:41 Mental Health and the Outdoors 17:57 Celebrating Women's Achievements in Ultra Running Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Nov 17

This week on the Free Outside Show I pulled together a best of episode featuring some of the most memorable moments and conversations from the past year. These are the clips that stuck with me long after we hit stop on the recorder. You will hear Warren Doyle talk about the mindset he has carried through more than eighteen thru hikes of the Appalachian Trail. John Kelly talks about training for multi day efforts with a start up and a family. Bryce Brooks and I talk about owning the livestream. Alyssa Clark talks about building resilience and what she learned chasing big goals across multiple disciplines. Allison Mercer brings the questions right after the Appalachian Trail record and some early thoughts on FKT of the year. Katie Gunvalson dives in the success and failure of adventure. And Jeff Browning gives us some chaffing tools. It is a mix of stories, lessons, and moments that show why these conversations matter and why the people behind them keep shaping this community. This episode is a look back at the voices that defined the year and a reminder of why I love making this show. Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Nov 9

Do I fit in, in this industry? I have really started to question everything! I’m not doing great right now, and that’s what this episode is about. After finishing the Appalachian Trail FKT, there’s been a crash, the kind that comes after spending months focused on one goal. This episode is me reading and performing my Substack piece, Location Unknown, and trying to make sense of what comes next. Post-trail depression is real. It’s the space after the high, when you’ve changed but the world hasn’t. I talk about what it feels like to lose direction, how authenticity can be misunderstood, and how I’m trying to figure things out again. Thanks for listening, supporting, and being part of this. You can find more of my writing on Substack, and if you want to support what I do, check out the show sponsors: https://freeoutside.substack.com/ Janji.com — use code FREEOUTSIDE for a discount and to support the show GarageGrownGear.com — the best place for small outdoor brands and gear that lasts CSInstant.Coffee —Actual Premium instant coffee Chapters 00:00 – Opening 03:00 – Substack Reading 06:30 – Post-Trail Depression 09:00 – Appalachian Trail 13:30 – Coming Home 16:00 – Integration 18:00 – Closing Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Nov 4

Back on the Free Outside podcast, I’m catching up with Will Murray after a wild eight months. Since Black Canyon he’s gone all-in: new coach (CTS’s John Fitzgerald), smarter long runs, and a rock-solid mindset that turned Javelina into a masterclass in steady, no surges. We talk about why he wore a pack while the front pack rocked belts (spoiler: seven bottles a lap and an ice pocket), how he practices mantras on long runs, and the simple crew rule that keeps big races from falling apart: do simple better. Will opens up about the detour through AFib, an ankle injury, a bout of giardia, and how cycling + hiking rebuilt fitness and trust. We also wander into big ideas—Western States, training camps, and what a Grand Tour of trail running could look like. It’s process over hype, and it’s really, really good. Chapters 00:00 Intro & catching up 05:30 All-in since Black Canyon 08:30 Why get a coach (CTS/John) 11:00 Race plan: steady, no surges 13:30 Lap themes & mindset 15:30 Pack choice & hydration (7 bottles/lap) 18:00 Mantras in training 20:30 Crew: “Do simple better” 23:00 AFib, ankle, giardia detour 26:00 Rebuilding with cycling & hiking 29:00 Western States lessons 32:00 Future goals & balance 34:00 Shoes talk (Catamount, super shoes?) 36:00 Stage-race / team ideas 38:00 Wrap & outro Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Oct 31

I thought I was done racing this year… but apparently Montana had other plans. Two weeks after Allison Mercer introduced me to cross country running, I found myself signing up for the Montana Cup — an annual, statewide, adult cross country throwdown where Bozeman, Missoula, Billings, and the rest of the Montana cities go head-to-head for glory. In this episode, I talk about my first hard 5K in twenty years, how I tried to re-train my calves after the Appalachian Trail, and whether my 35-year-old self can outkick my 14-year-old PR. Spoiler: probably not. But that’s not all — I also recap my Halloween weekend crewing at Javelina Jundred, where I became the self-proclaimed Ice Daddy, lost a costume contest as a horse, and ended up pacing a stranger to his first 100-mile finish while dressed as Santa. Because of course I did. There’s a life hack, a shout-out to my sponsors, a Blue Jays World Series dream, and an announcement for the return of Month of Jeff and the Jeffrey Awards. So grab a coffee (CS Coffee, obviously), lace up those Janji shorts, and join me for another chaotic, slightly overcaffeinated episode of the Free Outside Show. Chapters 00:00 The Montana Cup and Cross Country Racing 02:41 Post-Appalachian Trail Recovery and Training 05:55 Halloween Race Experience and Costumes 11:25 Pacing a Runner and Celebrating Success 14:07 Life Hacks and Upcoming Events Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Oct 27

I was on the ground at Javelina while Allison rode shotgun in the live chat, and—wow—what a day. Will Murray put on the most nondescript masterclass you’ll ever see: smooth, steady, course record, golden ticket. David Roche held on for second, then surprised everyone by declining his ticket, which handed Canyon Woodward his shot after a blazing late charge. On the women’s side, my AT-record pal Tara Dower absolutely torched the course record by over 30 minutes, while eligibility rules behind her shaped a wild golden-ticket battle. We break down why times were so fast (cooler temps, NASCAR-level aid stations, dialed cooling, and, yes, the shoe game) and the new reality of wall-to-wall coverage—mountain bikes, lights and all. Plus: Molly Seidel aiming for a Black Canyon ticket, the latest doping headlines and what they mean for our sport, and a quick look ahead to Tunnel Hill, JFK, and silly-season sponsorships. East vs. West banter included—and, yes, I recorded this on my birthday. Chapters 00:00 Recap of Javelina Jundrid Highlights 02:50 Course Records and Performance Analysis 05:59 The Rise of Will Murray 08:52 Canyon's Impressive Finish and Team Dynamics 11:56 The Impact of Weather and Race Strategy 15:04 Tara's Record-Breaking Performance 17:54 Doping Controversies in Running 20:53 Molly Seidel's Transition to Trail Running 23:55 Looking Ahead: Future Races and Trends Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Oct 27

Technology has crept into every corner of our sport—from GPS watches to real-time tracking to social media validation. In this episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I sit down with Luke McCrae, the creator of Corsa, a site that tracked my Appalachian Trail FKT attempt (with a one-day safety delay). We dive into the rise of tech in FKTs and outdoor adventures—where it helps, where it hurts, and how far is too far. Does tracking make our experiences richer or just more public? Are we still chasing the same spirit of adventure when our dots move live on a map? It’s a deep, funny, and thought-provoking conversation about innovation, community, and the balance between authentic adventure and algorithmic obsession. Chapters 00:00 From Camping to Ultra Running: Luke's Journey 02:29 The Intersection of Technology and Outdoor Adventures 05:13 Corsa: Enhancing the Spectator Experience 08:05 Creating Community Through Technology 10:37 The Future of Ultra Running and Technology 13:21 Strava's Challenges and the Shift in Platforms 20:29 The Power of Sharing Experiences 25:25 Technology and Community in Thru-Hiking 30:43 Personal Transformation Through Hiking 36:07 Comparing Thru-Hiking and Ultra-Running Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Oct 24

One month after setting the Appalachian Trail self-supported FKT, I’m in a strange place—floating between accomplishment and uncertainty. This episode isn’t about miles or records; it’s about what happens after. I talk openly about trying to find purpose once the goal is over—navigating sponsorships, self-worth, and the emotional fallout of chasing something so all-consuming. The trail stripped everything away, forcing me to feel emotions raw and real—anger, joy, sadness, pride—and now I’m learning how to carry those lessons into real life. It’s honest, messy, and probably a little too relatable. If you’ve ever finished something big and thought, now what?, this episode is for you. Chapters 00:00 Navigating Post-Trail Uncertainty 02:58 Emotional Processing on the Trail 05:51 The Importance of Internal Validation 09:09 Carrying Forward Emotional Lessons 12:02 Finding Direction Amidst Chaos Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Oct 19

It’s that magical time of year again — pumpkin spice, golden tickets, and glitter on the desert trails. In this episode, Me and Allison Mercer break down the 2025 Javelina 100, the first Western States qualifier of the season, featuring names like Tara Dower, David Roche, Devon Yanko, Rajpaul Pannu, and Lauren Puretz. We also dive into Courtney Dauwalter’s decision to run another marathon — this time at CIM — and debate whether she’s training for Cocodona redemption or just chasing the road racing rush. Expect plenty of hot takes, costume ideas, and “expert” predictions on who will snag those golden tickets. Chapters 00:00 Marathon Madness: The Allure of Speed 03:44 The Javelina 100: A Race to Remember 09:28 Trail Running Trends: The Evolving Landscape 14:45 The Golden Ticket: Who Will Qualify? 20:24 The FKT Debate: Unsupported vs. Self-Supported 28:00 Sports Superstitions: The Fan Experience Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Oct 17

I’m joined by Katie “Wildy” Brown—former Arizona Trail self-supported record holder and fresh off the Millwood 100, a 102-mile Wasatch linkup with ~37,000 feet of vert designed by Jared Campbell. We break down what Millwood actually is (route, not race), why she started at night, when the wheels got wobbly on night two, and how crew and pacers changed the game. Katie talks RUFA, Salt Lake’s inversion (and why you literally run through it), and lessons from the mostly self-supported Plains 100—moon dust, SAR checkpoints, and an asthma scare at mile 100. We get into toughness vs. speed, route finding with cliff-band consequences, French-fry aid, ER-nurse night shifts, trail names (Wildy!), and why the Wasatch keeps calling her back. Check out Millwood 100: https://runuphill.wordpress.com/2017/07/15/millwood-100-official-page/ Follow Katie Brown: https://www.instagram.com/kaytebrown Chapters 00:00 Exploring the Millwood 100 Adventure 08:18 The Journey of Preparation and Planning 13:56 The Role of Support and Pacers 19:54 Mental Resilience and Overcoming Challenges 25:56 Reflections on Toughness and Personal Growth 31:42 The Joy of Companionship in Racing 37:05 Innovative Race Concepts 45:53 Running Up for Air: A Unique Initiative 50:56 Life Beyond Mormonism: A Personal Journey

Oct 14

After 45 days of hiking, hobbling, and setting a new Appalachian Trail self-supported record, I’m back—barely running, barely sleeping, and somehow still full of opinions. In this episode of the Free Outside Show, I break down the Chicago Marathon broadcast (and the glorious chaos of local news), talk about rebuilding a body that forgot what running is, and share the weird post-FKT side effects—from Christmas toes to an over-eager bladder. I cover what it means to start over, why my calves hate me, and how patience might just be the secret to my next comeback. Plus, a few updates: future FKTs, Javelina Jundrid plans, and why the Janji kit I wore for 2,200 miles is headed for shrine status. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Chicago Marathon 05:52 Post-Marathon Reflections and Body Changes 11:40 Future Plans and Rebuilding Phase Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Oct 10

It’s a full plate this week on The Free Outside Show. I’m diving into Terminus Season—that bittersweet time when thru-hikers take the photo, post it, and wonder what’s next. Then we get into Trail TMZ, where a defamation lawsuit is brewing, and I try not to get sued for talking about it. From there, we climb the philosophical peaks of Richard Feynman, Christopher McCandless, and Killian Jornet, somehow connecting it all back to neuromas, the UTMB money machine, and why you should just do the thing—even if nobody understands it. There’s science (a running study that might change how you train), there’s gossip (Wikipedia wars are back), and there’s reflection (because post-trail life is weird). As always—stay mid-America, stay elite, and remember: nothing matters, but also everything does. support our sponsors: CSinstant.coffee janji.com garagegrowngear.com Chapters 00:00 Observations on Social Interactions 02:36 Navigating Post-Adventure Challenges 05:44 The Dynamics of Ultra Running Events 08:29 Understanding Terminus Season and Post-Trail Transition Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Oct 6

Fresh off my self-supported AT record, I sit down with 2013 AT self-supported FKT holder Matt Kirk to talk about the weird gravity of post-trail depression, the long arc of the record from Ward Leonard to Stringbean to Tara, and where the line is with tech, tracking, and “help” on a self-supported effort. We dig into calories gone wrong (why 3,500/day failed), Shenandoah as a quiet crux, trail magic ethics, and why simplicity might be the best rule we have left. Matt shares the origin story of SCAR, naming it, and—plot twist—how he met his wife on the AT. I share some nuts and bolts from my run (18 mail drops, ~12 power banks, and way too much battery anxiety), and we both argue for screen-free campfire vibes and keeping the culture alive while the times keep dropping. If you’re into FKTs, thru-hiking history, or just need a blueprint for surviving the “now what?” after a big goal, this one’s for you. Check out Matt Kirk online: His Blog: https://matthewkirk.blogspot.com/ His Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXrGFci8u_goKfnP8PqkaLA Donate to the Trevor Project: https://give.thetrevorproject.org/fundraiser/6530749 Chapters 00:00 Post-Hike Transition and Emotional Challenges 02:40 Caloric Miscalculations and Preparation for FKT 05:31 Evolution of FKT Records and Technological Advances 08:21 The Impact of Previous Record Holders 10:48 Guidelines for Self-Supported Hiking 13:28 Documenting the Journey: Technology and Tracking 16:21 The Balance of Simplicity and Validation in Records 19:02 Reflections on the Future of FKT Attempts 27:13 Navigating Resupply Challenges 32:58 Mental Strategies for Endurance 37:13 The Importance of Reflection 41:06 Journey into Ultrarunning and FKTs 51:09 The Cost of Technology in Hiking 54:15 Navigating Technology and Safety on the Trail 56:42 The Impact of Technology on Hiking Culture 01:00:18 The Balance of Trail Magic and Self-Sufficiency 01:05:01 Personal Stories: Meeting on the Trail Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Oct 3

Ten days off the Appalachian Trail and I’m deep in the post-trail fog—so I’m doing what any reasonable human would: grading my own record attempt. In this episode I hand out a full report card on the AT self-supported FKT—physical execution, sleep, injuries, nutrition (hello 1,000-cal drink mix), logistics (RIP Shenandoah resupply), mental game, weather, terrain, and storytelling—then tally the GPA. I riff on why drone shots aren’t a story, share some Mammoth 200 takes, and explain how two left shoes, a missing electronics bag, and shoe-toe peekaboo somehow still add up to a record. We hit night hiking tactics, the “toughness groove,” and field a few listener questions. Also: a quick bit on why it’s “Appalachia,” not “Appa-lay-sha.” If this episode resonated, consider donating to The Trevor Project (link below)—they provide life-saving support and resources. Donate to the Trevor Project: https://give.thetrevorproject.org/fundraiser/6530749 Sponsors that kept me moving: Janji (Snappy Trekker shirt & 5" AFO Ultra shorts), ReadyWise (my breakfast scramble), CS Instant Coffee (trail rocket fuel), and Garage Grown Gear (where cottage dreams live). Subscribe, drop a review, and tell one friend who thinks a “fun run” is 214 miles. Stay mid, America—and stay elite, my friends. Chapters 00:00 Post-Trail Reflections and Celebrity Shoutouts 02:34 The Popularity of 200-Mile Races 05:45 The Appalachian Trail Experience 08:22 Report Card on the Appalachian Trail FKT 10:57 Nutrition Strategies for Endurance 17:35 Mental and Emotional Resilience During the Hike 23:00 Personal Reflections and Motivation 23:57 Logistics and Gear Choices 25:41 Resupply Challenges and Navigation 28:17 Environmental Adaptation and Terrain Management 30:30 Community Engagement and Storytelling 32:21 Self-Assessment and Future Aspirations 32:48 Audience Questions and Insights 44:41 Closing Thoughts and Call to Action Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Sep 29

Eight days after setting the Appalachian Trail self-supported FKT, I sit down with my girlfriend, Allison Powell, for the most comprehensive post-mortem yet. We unpack the messy middle: inReach texts that read like hieroglyphics, a resupply box that vanished in Shenandoah, two left shoes (and a toe popping through the right one), a broken pole in New York, rain that no radar would admit, and the late-race sit-and-kick that finally stuck. We talk about the A-T(eam) group thread with John (yes, the Mexico engagement guy), what it’s like supporting a record you’re not allowed to “help” on, the pre-race spreadsheet rabbit hole, asking strangers for walnuts, hallucinating Slenderman, and touching the Springer sign before pizza and sleep. It’s grit, humor, and the playbook for turning “one in a billion” into done. Stay elite, my friends. Follow Allison online: https://www.instagram.com/allisonhpowell/ Support the Trevor Project: https://give.thetrevorproject.org/fundraiser/6530749? Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Appalachian Trail Record 02:34 Qualities That Lead to Success 05:14 Challenges Faced on the Trail 08:23 Mental Strategies and Tools for Endurance 11:04 Resupply Challenges and Community Support 13:47 Emotional Highs and Lows During the Journey 16:59 The Role of Support Systems 19:38 Social Media and Public Engagement 22:38 Preparation and Planning for the Record 25:35 The Final Push to the Finish Line 28:31 Reflections on the Experience Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Sep 26

After 2,200 miles, 45 days, and more duct-taped shoes than I care to admit, I finally set the self-supported Appalachian Trail FKT. In this episode, Allison Mercer and I dive into the full story—why I went back to the AT, how it nearly broke me (again), and what it takes to push through when your body is screaming “stop” but you’ve still got 80 miles to cover. Consider supporting the Trevor Project: https://give.thetrevorproject.org/fundraiser/6530749? We talk about the shoe disaster (two left shoes, then two right shoes), sleepless nights, eerie solo miles, and the weird little things that kept me going—like listening to Pirates vs. Marlins baseball games at midnight in the green tunnel. We get into the strategy of easing into the miles, then ratcheting up the effort until there’s nothing left to give. Buy a hoodie and support the Trevor Project: https://www.bonfire.com/fastest-known-tiger/ This wasn’t just about me or a number on a spreadsheet. Thanks to thousands of people, we raised over $30,000 for The Trevor Project, proving that adventure can be about something much bigger than one person chasing a record. It’s the whole journey—why I started, how I finished, and what it means when the trail teaches you more than you ever expected. Follow Allison online: https://www.instagram.com/onewomandanceparty Chapters 00:00 Introduction and First Impressions 02:50 The Journey of the Appalachian Trail 06:08 Motivation Behind the FKT Attempt 08:54 Preparation and Training for the FKT 11:46 Challenges Faced on the Trail 15:03 Social Interactions and Trail Community 17:51 Mental Strategies for Endurance 21:05 Tracking Progress and Staying Motivated 23:49 The Significance of Self-Supported Records 27:05 Gear and Supplies Management 29:56 Communication and Updates During the FKT 32:50 Fundraising for the Trevor Project 35:43 Recognition of Fellow Hikers 39:01 Conclusion and Future Plans Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Sep 15

While I’m out chasing a self-supported FKT on the Appalachian Trail, we’re throwing it back to one of the weirdest solo episodes yet. This one’s all about hallucinations—those sleep-deprived visions that show up when the miles get long and the sleep gets short. I break down my top five all-time hallucinations from FKTs and multi-day races like Nolan’s 14, Cocodona, the Arizona Trail, and the Colorado Trail. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Context of the Podcast 02:11 Hallucinations from Sleep Deprivation 07:22 First Hallucination: The Safari Guy 11:59 Second Hallucination: Witches in the Woods 19:32 Third Hallucination: The Robot in the Cliff 23:13 Fourth Hallucination: Black Bears and Stumps 27:17 Conclusion and Future Plans You’ll meet: The Safari Man who’s been following me for years Witches in the forest waiting to sweep me up A three-story robot stuck in a rock wall A pirate ship in the desert for some reason And chicken feet sprouting from the Earth We also touch on why hallucinations happen, what triggers them, and how I’m turning them into AI-generated images—because if I have to see these things, so do you. Sponsors: Janji • Garage Grown Gear • CS Coffee • Mount to Coast Support the Appalachian Trail FKT attempt + the show: Patreon.com/freeoutside Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Sep 12

In this soul-spilling solo episode, I get honest from a borrowed cabin (and even more borrowed fishing hat) about why I gave up my home, comforts, and stability to chase a 40+ day goal on the Appalachian Trail. This isn’t just about trying to set an FKT—this is about redefining why we go after anything in life. I break down what it means to pursue something uncertain, unplug from the chaos, and find the rawest form of purpose in a world drowning in notifications, optics, and comparison traps. From unexpected homelessness to deep reflections on fear, failure, self-worth, and the primal joy of moving through wild places, this episode is a deep dive into what motivates me—and maybe what can motivate you too. No pretense. No performance. Just truth, vulnerability, and a reminder that trying is enough. Plus: gear talk, sponsor love, and why I might be cramping somewhere on the AT as you listen. Brought to you by: Janji. (wearing the AFO Ultra Shorts right now) Garage Grown Gear CS Instant Coffee Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Personal Journey 03:14 The Importance of Defining Your Why 06:05 Embracing the Challenge of the Appalachian Trail 08:49 Finding Pride in Personal Goals 12:08 Overcoming Fear and Embracing the Unknown Support the show: patreon.com/freeoutside Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Sep 8

In this episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I replay one of my all-time favorite convos — a sit-down with Tara Dower, who absolutely crushed the supported Appalachian Trail FKT and somehow lived to tell the tale (barely). Consider supporting The Trevor Project https://give.thetrevorproject.org/JeffAT We talk about everything from post-trail depression to how it feels when your crew spoon-feeds you every meal for 40 days straight. Tara breaks down the power of delegation, what it’s like to lose all decision-making autonomy, and how a dog bite during a panic attack marked the low point of her hiking career (and also maybe the turning point). She also shares how pacing Kyle Curtin on the Colorado Trail helped her build her own FKT strategy, why her crew was the real MVP, and how she managed to crush Hardrock 100 just weeks before starting her AT attempt. This isn’t just a recap of a record — it’s an honest look at fear, failure, mental health, and the grind it takes to do something massive. Plus, Tara drops her next FKT plans and talks about the weird joy of vlogging in a blizzard. If you're curious about how to plan for an FKT this big — or just want to hear two sleep-deprived trail nerds bond over anxiety and peanut butter — you’ll love this one. Sponsored by: Janji – Use code FREEOUTSIDE for a discount Garage Grown Gear – Ultralight dreamland CS Coffee – My trail coffee of choice Mount to coast – Big things brewing Ultraspire - A cool pack is on the way Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Tara Dower's Achievements 07:52 The Journey to the Appalachian Trail FKT 13:47 Lessons from Failure: The 2017 Attempt 20:03 The Importance of Crew Dynamics 26:12 Planning for the FKT: The Trail Bible 32:32 Looking Ahead: Future Plans and Goals 41:44 The Evolution of FKT Training 49:55 The Role of Social Media in Outdoor Experiences 58:26 Mindset for Tackling Big Challenges 01:03:46 Interview with Tara Dower: FKT on the Appalachian Trail Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Sep 5

What does it take to go after one of the hardest endurance records in the world? In this episode of The Free Outside Show, I'm breaking down my entire strategy for a self-supported Fastest Known Time (FKT) attempt on the Appalachian Trail—southbound. I’m going after Joe “Stringbean” McConaughy’s record of 45 days and change, but flipping the direction: Maine to Georgia. I explain why I’m starting with the hardest 400 miles, how I’m planning for early setbacks, and why “survive and advance” is my north star. We get into: My exact resupply strategy (bonus miles and all) Psychological tactics for surviving 6+ weeks solo Lessons from my training camp in the White Mountains Gear and clothing decisions, including what didn’t make the cut How I almost drowned in 2016 and why I’m still afraid of rivers How I’m keeping the pack light, calories high, and mental state stable This episode is half blueprint, half therapy, and all-in on the Appalachian Trail FKT dream. Brought to you by: Janji – Use code "freeoutside" at checkout Garage Grown Gear – The small brands that crush big adventures CS Instant Coffee – Because cold mornings don’t wait Support the journey: patreon.com/freeoutside Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Appalachian Trail Record Attempt 02:52 Navigating the Challenges of the Trail 05:46 Mental Strategies for Endurance 08:59 Resupply Strategies and Nutrition 12:14 Psychological Wins on the Trail 15:06 Training and Preparation Insights 17:51 Gear and Efficiency Considerations 21:03 Final Thoughts and Itinerary Overview Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Sep 1

Today on the Free Outside Podcast, I’m joined by world record-holding ultra legend and Wisconsin's third-best export (according to me), Zach Bitter. We dive into everything from the logistics of setting a 100-mile world record to the absurdity of explaining our jobs to boomers ("I'm an influencer" = conversation over). Zach explains the appeal of fixed-time races, what he'd do differently in his record run (spoiler: shoes, fuel, and maybe a time machine), and whether doping is as prevalent in ultrarunning as EPO-fueled Reddit threads make it seem. We also go deep on the evolution of the sport—tech, talent development, brand dynamics, super shoes, sock science, and what the heck the future might look like if Nike and cooling towels keep having a baby. Zach even dishes on why he stepped away from a long-term brand partnership and how he’s finding freedom—and a better shoe rotation—on his own. Find Zach online: https://zachbitter.com/ https://www.instagram.com/zachbitter https://zachbitter.com/hpo Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Zach Bitter and His Achievements 03:04 The Importance of Fixed Time Races 05:57 Zach's World Record Experience 08:51 The Evolution of Ultra Running Technology 12:08 The Challenges of Record Keeping in Ultra Running 15:00 Doping in Ultra Running: A Complex Issue 18:07 The Future of Ultra Running and Accessibility 21:03 The Role of Coaching and Development in Running 23:55 Cultural Shifts in Ultra Running 27:05 Conclusion and Final Thoughts 38:16 The Future of Talent Development in Ultra Running 41:39 Brand Building and Athlete Sponsorship Dynamics 44:45 The Evolution of Trail Running Sponsorships 47:58 Nike's Strategic Interest in Trail Running 51:16 The Role of Athlete Managers in Brand Partnerships 55:47 Exploring Authenticity in Product Reviews 01:01:11 Innovations in Running Technology and Future Trends Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Aug 29

In this gear-packed episode of The Free Outside Show, I break down everything I’m bringing to attempt the self-supported Appalachian Trail FKT. From a tarp that bugs will laugh at to a bandana that’s doing its best to tame my untamable hair, I go through every single piece of gear—24 items total—and why each one made the cut. I also test the limits of how many sponsor plugs I can fit into a single monologue (spoiler: a lot). Whether you're into ultralight setups, curious about thru-hiking gear, or just want to hear someone spiral into gear-induced madness, this one’s for you. Sponsored by: Janji, Garage Grown Gear, and CS Instant Coffee. PS: While you're listening, I’ll be deep in the woods with lots of pairs of shoes, questionable hygiene, and a billion ticks. So leave a review. It’s the least you can do Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Appalachian Trail Record Attempt 02:50 Essential Gear for the Journey 06:10 Shelter and Sleeping Arrangements 07:51 Clothing Choices and Comfort 10:42 Technology and Safety Gear 13:56 Final Thoughts and Support 19:54 Conclusion and Call to Action Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Aug 25

This episode is what happens when Jeff Garmire hands the mic (sort of) to actor and trail runner Allison Powell. What begins as an Appalachian Trail FKT strategy interview quickly spirals into alien voice impressions, reality TV pitches, peanut M&M disasters, and campaign platforms centered around botulism prevention. Amid the theater kid chaos and sitcom-level side tangents, Jeff actually does manage to break down his training, gear prep, food strategy (shoutout to fig bars and 1,000-calorie drink sludge), and what he’s mailing to himself across 14 states. There’s also a Billy-on-the-Street-style AT trivia game, a monologue from Little Women, and a deep dive into why salsa should always live in the fridge. Sponsored by Janji, Garage Grown Gear, CS Coffee, and Mount to coast — because someone’s gotta fund the fig bars and alien accents. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Live From the Bed 00:54 Appalachian Trail Trivia Begins 04:36 Exploring the Appalachian Trail's History 08:24 Fun and Games: Trivia and Personal Stories 12:20 Unicycling Adventures and Challenges 16:03 Music Preferences and Concert Experiences 19:16 Unique Perspectives on Hiking and Endurance Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Aug 22

This one was a long time coming. I finally got to sit down with Joey Campanelli — aka Joey Camps — who’s been quietly putting together one of the wildest, most hardcore FKT resumes in existence. From a 2014 Appalachian Trail junk show with a ski pack and trench foot, to the 2017 self-supported AT finish that just happened to be three days behind Stringbean’s historic run… Joey’s stories are brutal, honest, and somehow hilarious. Consider supporting my fundraising efforts for the Trevor Project: https://give.thetrevorproject.org/JeffAT We dig into: Why he sucks at running (his words) Getting into FKTs by way of Ironman, Utah mountains, and ultra-running girlfriends The infamous "Limp-a-thon" after tearing his quad on the AT How to do 50-mile days in pain… for weeks The mindset behind Nolan’s 14 and why he slept in an altitude tent for it Nutrition strategies involving watch alarms and resupply math in gas stations What it's like being second-fastest ever on the AT… in the same year someone breaks the record Chapters: 00:00 – Intro & Joey’s FKT Origin Story 03:30 – The AT Junk Show & Learning the Hard Way 06:00 – The Limp-a-thon: Injury, Grit, and Nearly Beating Stringbean 10:30 – Post-FKT Fallout & Mental Recovery 13:00 – Nolan’s 14: Obsession, Altitude Tents, and 41 Hours of Glory 17:00 – Fueling, Mindset, and Why You Go All In Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Aug 18

What do a McDonald’s, a rusted van, and an Appalachian Trail record have in common? Warren Doyle. On this episode of the Free Outside Podcast I am joined by the legend Warren Doyle — educator, endurance icon, and Appalachian Trail philosopher — for an unfiltered, no-bobblehead conversation about FKTs, culture clashes, and the soul of long-distance hiking. Warren recounts his 1973 AT speed record (before we even called them FKTs), discusses the evolution of trail culture, and shares stories of creeks, canteens, creek showers, and a boot gone rogue. We explore the role of endurance vs. speed, why “tempo” matters more than terrain, and what today’s hikers can learn from the past — if they’re willing to listen. Consider supporting my fundraising efforts for the Trevor Project: https://give.thetrevorproject.org/JeffAT Plus: reflections on Liz “Mercury” Durstine, Tara Dower, Scott Jurek, and the future of the ATC. Oh, and we discuss why “Don’t bring the world with you” might just be the best trail advice you’ll hear this year. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Legends 02:55 Warren Doyle's Journey and Motivation 05:59 Planning and Preparation for the Appalachian Trail 09:00 Challenges Faced on the Trail 12:01 The Emotional Journey and Sense of Purpose 14:56 Endurance vs. Speed: The Philosophy of Hiking 17:55 The Impact of Media and Public Perception 21:08 The Evolution of Endurance Records 23:44 The Future of the Appalachian Trail 26:36 The Role of Community and Support 29:29 Lessons from Liz Durstine Mercury's Journey 32:28 Comparing Northbound and Southbound Hikes 35:31 The Importance of Sleep and Recovery 38:22 Navigating the Trail's Terrain and Challenges 41:21 The Cultural Shift of the Appalachian Trail 44:07 Final Thoughts and Advice for Future Hikers Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Aug 15

On this episode of The Free Outside Podcast, I’m joined by White Mountains legend and community builder Andrew Drummond to dive deep into the Direttissima—an FKT linking all 48 of New Hampshire’s 4,000-foot peaks in one unsupported push. Think Nolan’s 14 but with more rocks, more bushwhacks, and significantly more emotional damage. We cover Andrew’s recent sub-5-day effort, the strategic "feathering" of effort in multi-day sufferfests, and why hiking in the Whites feels like the trail is actively trying to kill you. We also talk about the evolution of FKTs, the importance of local knowledge, and why the Beast Coast terrain is no joke. Andrew reflects on building a community through Ski the Whites and Run the Whites, putting on grassroots events, and embracing failure as a necessary—and often hilarious—step in the process. Whether you’re an FKT nerd, an East Coast trail masochist, or just want a glimpse into what makes the White Mountains so special (and spicy), this one’s for you. Presented by: 🥾 Janji – gear for your weird trail dreams 🥤 CS Coffee – caffeine that slaps 🎒 Garage Grown Gear – the little guys with big ultralight energy 🗺️ Mount to Coast – keeping me alive on this AT FKT attempt 👉 Support the show on Patreon 👉 Donate to the Trevor Project – $10 for every mile of the AT during my record attempt. Because being different deserves support. Consider donating to support the trevor project as I attempt this record https://give.thetrevorproject.org/JeffAT Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Direttissima 02:56 Understanding the Route and Its Challenges 05:55 The Evolution of Speed Records 09:03 Feathering the Route: Strategy and Mindset 12:12 Navigating Physical and Mental Challenges 14:53 The Importance of Community and Local Knowledge 17:56 The Unique Terrain of the White Mountains 20:50 Reflections on Experience and Growth 24:00 The Future of Trail Running in the Northeast 36:15 Embracing the Journey of Outdoor Adventures 39:34 The Allure of the Appalachian Trail 46:18 Navigating Challenges on the Trail 50:32 The Art of Event Planning in the Outdoors 01:01:37 Overcoming Fear and Embracing Failure Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Aug 11

I finally got Allison Powell—producer, ultrarunner, and now bonafide backpacker—on the podcast to talk about her first solo thru-hike: the Wonderland Trail. Spoiler alert: she tried to bring hummus, carrots, and a full picnic on a 90+ mile, three-day solo trip around Mount Rainier. But somehow, despite a heavy pack, trail math struggles, and losing her travel mug to the forest gods, she pulled it off. Consider supporting my fundraising efforts for the Trevor Project: https://give.thetrevorproject.org/JeffAT Follow Allison online: https://www.instagram.com/allisonhpowell/ In this episode, we break down how a seasoned ultrarunner transitions (read: suffers) into backpacking, what she learned about weight, gear, solo hiking, and bear hangs, and how her view of thru-hiking shifted after 14-hour days of nothing but walking, couscous, and waterfalls. This is an honest, hilarious, and pretty relatable first-time thru-hiker story—and maybe even a cautionary tale. Brought to you by: 👕 Janji – for the gear that won’t get you arrested ⛺ Garage Grown Gear – for the ultralight life ☕ CS Coffee – because walking 30 miles a day is better caffeinated Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Wonderland Trail Adventure 05:32 The Challenges of Backpacking Alone 11:29 Lessons Learned from the Journey 17:11 Navigating the Trail and Overcoming Obstacles 23:15 Final Thoughts and Future Plans Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Aug 8

What do wildfires, the Arizona desert, and the Oregon Coast have in common? They’ve all tried—and failed—to stop Katie Gunvalson, aka Raven. In this episode, I catch up with Jeffrey Award winner and self-supported FKT crusher Katie after her overall record on the Oregon Coast Trail, where she took the long way and still came out fastest. This is the full-circle redemption arc. Katie first came on the podcast after her PCT FKT was stopped by a wildfire on day one. Since then? She’s failed a few more times (we all have—ask Nick), kept showing up, and finally broke through with one of the coolest FKTs around—one that involves tide timing, beach running, and some major resilience. Consider donating to support the trevor project as I attempt this record https://give.thetrevorproject.org/JeffAT We talk about what it means to chase something hard, to fail publicly, and to come back swinging. Katie shares the real stuff—motivation, self-worth, wanting to compete with the big names at Cocodona (hey Jamil, you listening?), and why this record mattered more than any other. This episode is brought to you by: Janji – for clothing that keeps you stylishly off the FKT dole Garage Grown Gear – for all your weird, ultralight, cottage gear needs Mount to Coast – shoes for people who want to look fast CS Coffee – still the only reason I’m coherent today And a reminder: I’m currently out chasing an Appalachian Trail FKT and raising money for The Trevor Project—because using our niche little sport to support people who feel different can actually make a difference. Link in bio to support. Stay elite, my friends. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Award Banter 03:00 Setting the Oregon Coast Trail FKT 06:01 Navigating Challenges on the Trail 08:58 Resupply Strategies and Nutrition 12:02 Training for the FKT 15:03 Mental Preparation and Overcoming Doubts 17:55 The Final Push and Weather Challenges 20:57 Crossing the Finish Line 23:54 Reflections on Failure and Success 26:49 Community Support in FKTs 29:48 Future Aspirations and Goals Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Aug 7

When you hear this, I will have started the Appalachian Trail Self Supported FKT attempt. Track it here: https://corsa.run/live/freeoutside/ Also, consider donating to the Trevor Project as I try to raise money and make a difference during this record attempt: https://give.thetrevorproject.org/JeffAT In this episode, I sit down (virtually) with the Dictator of FKTs, Allison Mercer, for a last-minute chat about how the heck I got here: from failed FedEx deliveries and lost shoes, to spending $500 shipping food across the eastern seaboard, to testing gear and nutrition in the White Mountains while pretending I still had a home address. We talk about why I chose the AT, why I’m going southbound, why self-supported FKTs are my favorite kind of chaos, and how I’m channeling all my energy into something bigger than myself—raising $10 per mile for The Trevor Project, an organization making a real impact on mental health and LGBTQ+ youth. We also cover: Why I eat Costco pizza for performance My obsession with spreadsheets Visualizing failure so it doesn’t surprise you And how rocks in your shoes are the new weighted vest It’s chaotic, heartfelt, and packed with bad ideas and good intentions. If you want to follow along with my attempt, track me, or donate to the cause, check the show notes or visit my Linktree. And thanks for being part of this wild, weird ride. Now I guess I better go hike 2,200 miles. Like it’s hard. – Jeff Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the FKT Journey 00:28 Supporting the Trevor Project 00:39 Preparing for the FKT Challenge 06:19 The Allure of the Appalachian Trail 10:46 Overcoming Hurdles and Challenges 13:21 Mental Resilience and Problem Solving 18:56 Testing Gear and Nutrition 28:40 Fundraising for Mental Health Awareness Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Aug 4

I’m joined by the legend himself—John Kelly—just about a month after his Appalachian Trail FKT attempt. We go deep. Like "0.1 miles felt like a day" kind of deep. Consider donating to support the trevor project as I attempt this record https://give.thetrevorproject.org/JeffAT John opens up about the logistics, the emotional toll, the storm-soaked first week, and the injury that brought a nearly successful record run to a halt with just 300 miles to go. We get into the mental shifts that come with long efforts, how to manage a massive support team, and how his body literally stopped cooperating. He talks through mistakes made, lessons learned, and whether he’ll ever go back. He also dishes out advice for anyone attempting a self-supported effort (cough like me in less than a week cough) and reflects on what he learned about the trail—and himself. This is a raw and real conversation with someone who’s done more miles than most of us have steps. Thanks for listening. Stay elite, my friends. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Appalachian Trail Attempt 02:58 The Journey to the FKT Record 06:06 Adapting to the Trail and Body Changes 08:51 Planning and Support Dynamics 12:07 Challenges Faced on the Trail 15:01 The Role of Support Crew 17:59 Daily Video Updates and Family Involvement 21:06 Emotional Rollercoaster of the Attempt 23:52 Reflections on the Experience 27:04 Advice for Future Hikers 30:07 Final Thoughts and Future Plans Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Aug 1

What the Heck Is an FKT? (And Why I'm Living in the Woods for 45 Days) Live from a very cabin-y cabin in Montana, I bring you an episode for everyone wondering, what even is an Appalachian Trail FKT? I’m joined by the queen of Fastest Known Times herself, Allison Mercer, to break it all down. We cover the wild world of FKTs—from how they started, to the different styles (unsupported, self-supported, supported), what’s allowed, what’s not, and how you can go set your own. Whether you’re a longtime endurance nerd or just discovering FKTs, this episode sets the stage for my own upcoming Appalachian Trail FKT attempt. We also wrap up with hot takes on the state of ultrarunning, competition, and keeping the sport weird (but fair). Follow Allison: https://www.instagram.com/onewomandanceparty Presented by: Janji (code: freeoutside) https://janji.com/ Garage Grown Gear https://www.garagegrowngear.com/ CS Instant Coffee https://www.csinstant.coffee/ —because Starbucks VIA is banned from this podcast. Podcast Chapters 00:00 – Cabin Life & AT Kickoff 02:00 – What the Heck Is an FKT? 06:15 – Supported vs. Self-Supported vs. Unsupported 11:10 – The History of FKTs 15:45 – The Role of FastestKnownTime.com 20:00 – How to Plan Your Own FKT 25:40 – Style Integrity and FKT Ethics 31:00 – Popular FKTs & Famous Examples 36:20 – Why FKTs Exploded Post-COVID 41:00 – Jeff’s AT Attempt: Style, Strategy, and Why 47:10 – Live Coverage, Hidden Content, and Patreon Support 52:30 – Opinions on Pacers, Media Gimmicks & Race Culture 58:20 – Final Tips & Trail Wisdom 01:01:00 – Sponsor Shoutouts & Wrap-Up Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Jul 28

Circle of Hell Run (COHR), Chef Boyardee, and Sweat Salt Wisdom with Bryce Brooks I’m joined by the undisputed king of dry-heat suffering, Bryce Brooks. He’s now a three-time champion of the infamous Circle of Hell Run—a 3-hour looped sufferfest in Phoenix held during the hottest part of the hottest day of the year. We dig into exactly how to win a heat race with 200 pounds of ice, salt pills by the fistful, and ice bandana swaps that would make an F1 pit crew jealous. Follow Bryce on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/b_ricebrooks We also dive deep into Bryce’s work behind the scenes at Aravaipa, his thoughts on live-streaming gimmicks vs performance, creative pacer rules, and what's next for the ever-expanding race organization. From blacked-out cars with no AC to ravioli-fueled recoveries, this one is part heat survival guide, part comedy, part ode to the ultrarunning grind. My favorite story is the time met Jamil Coury and Courtney Dauwalter at Cocodona 250! Buckle up. It's a dry heat, but the content is fire. Presented by Janji https://janji.com/ Garage Grown Gear https://www.garagegrowngear.com/ CS Coffee https://www.csinstant.coffee/ Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Circle of Hell Run 03:07 Winning Strategies and Crew Dynamics 06:04 Race Strategy and Managing Heat 08:59 Nutrition and Hydration in Extreme Conditions 11:54 The Atmosphere and Community of the Race 15:05 Personal Reflections and Future Aspirations 24:05 Racing and Content Creation Challenges 26:55 Capturing the Highlights of Ultra Races 31:02 The Role of Gimmicks in Racing 35:44 Jamil's Unique Approach to Racing and Content 38:59 Aerovipa's Growth and Event Expansion 42:26 Underrated Events and the Crown King Scramble 44:41 The Rise of Cocodona and Its Popularity 45:20 Cocodona's Rich History and Diverse Biomes 46:20 Evolution of the Live Stream Experience 47:23 First Encounters and Memorable Moments 47:57 The Wild Ride of the First Year 48:44 Hitchhiking Adventures and Unexpected Encounters 51:31 Post-Race Reflections and Decisions 54:54 Transitioning to a New Career Path 57:03 Upcoming Races and Future Plans 58:48 Crew Dynamics and Race Strategies 01:00:39 Debating Pacer Policies in Ultra Races Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Jul 25

For this Appalachian Trail FKT, I realized I have to become one with the thru-hiker. That means mud baths, tarp life, eating with my hands, and yes—training while also working a remote job from the literal woods. This episode is a stitched-together recap of my second big training camp, where I logged over 300 miles and 80,000 feet of vert in the hardest terrain the AT has to offer. I kick things off with a midnight arrival in Bangor and a 2.7-mile walk to my hotel (because, of course, there were no Ubers). From there, it’s all rain, roots, bugs, busted toes, and resupply strategy. I test out nearly every piece of gear I plan to use on the FKT—including my hilariously short sleeping bag and a tarp that may or may not survive the Whites. I hike through mud pits, scale ladders, eat questionable trail food, and rediscover the terrifying beauty of the Kennebec River—the same one I swam across back in 2016 like an idiot. Along the way, I also get an infected toe, limp into urgent care covered in dirt, try not to scare Ivy League joggers with my homeless-looking setup, and wrestle with one of my biggest fears: talking to people in small-town resupply stores. This camp wasn’t about big miles (although I still hit plenty). It was about dialing in the uncomfortable stuff—nutrition, logistics, clothing, sleep strategy, and reminding myself just how hard this trail really is. I’m equal parts confident and scared for August, which probably means I’m right where I need to be. Thanks for listening, supporting, and laughing along with the chaos. Stay elite, my friends. Chapters 00:00 Embarking on the Appalachian Trail Journey 05:44 Training Camp Insights and Challenges 10:27 Navigating the Tough Terrain 14:53 Injury and Recovery 19:26 Gear and Nutrition Strategies 23:09 Final Thoughts and Preparations for the Record Attempt 26:44 EE0FAD58-2502-4A21-A3EF-BD29BCCE281E.MP4 Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Jul 21

In this solo episode of the Free Outside Show, I dive into something I’ve been thinking about (and living through) for a while—the difference between pro runners and influencers in the trail running world. Who actually drives the sport forward? Who sells the shoes? And where do we go from here? I break down how pros validate performance and products, while influencers excel at storytelling and getting people off the couch. I explore why brands struggle to invest in athlete content and what we need to do better—like athlete-influencer integration, content allowances in contracts, and actually showing the personalities behind the podiums. This episode has hot takes, real examples (no brand shade, I swear), and maybe even a solution to the future of sponsorships in outdoor sports. Whether you're a runner, creator, or just someone trying to figure out how to get that elusive gear deal—this one’s for you. Brought to you by: Garage Grown Gear, CS Instant Coffee, and Janji.com Chapters 00:00 Runners vs Influencers: An Introduction 00:49 Defining Pro Runners and Influencers 03:10 The Workload of Pro Runners 05:54 The Role of Influencers in Trail Running 09:06 Finding the Middle Ground 11:57 The Importance of Brand Storytelling 14:52 Investing in Athlete Content Creation 17:45 Building Trust in the Running Community Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Jul 18

I’m recording this one live from a hotel room in New Hampshire that sounds like a prison cell and smells like ambition. I’m in the middle of my second training camp for the Appalachian Trail FKT, and things are getting real—mud to the thighs, toe infections, and 11,000-foot gain days kind of real. In this episode, I dive into what a training camp actually looks like when you’re prepping for 40+ days on the trail. I talk through the three pillars I focus on: specificity, recovery, and decision-making. I’ve been testing everything—food, gear, pacing, and even how to manage trail funk when your sleeping bag feels like it was made for a child. I share the strange culture of the AT, including cigarette-smoking thru-hikers, prideful locals, and the absolute chaos that is the Mahoosuc Notch. I’ve also got some gear insights, like why I sent one pair of shorts home and committed to the other, and how I’m planning to eat the same (awful?) things for over a month straight. I’m out here juggling coaching, podcasting, and prepping for the biggest effort of my life—with a laptop and microphone in my backpack, no permanent home, and way too many miles to think clearly. It’s all part of the adventure. Shoutout to Garage Grown Gear, Janji.com (use code freeoutside for a discount of… let’s say somewhere between 0% and 100%), and CS Coffee for supporting this wild journey. Let me know what your favorite high-calorie trail foods are, and maybe I’ll throw them in my pack. Thanks for listening—and as always, stay elite, my friends. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Setting the Scene 01:07 Training Camp Insights 07:51 Challenges on the Appalachian Trail 12:52 Cultural Observations and Trail Experiences 16:12 Preparing for the Future

Jul 14

In this episode of The Free Outside Show, I’m diving into something that might sound silly at first—being a fan. Whether it’s the NFL, NBA playoffs, Western States, or obsessively refreshing the live tracker at Cocodona, I argue that being a fan matters. It builds community, creates connection, and honestly, just makes life more fun. So this is a passionate, slightly ranty defense of why you should let yourself care—about your favorite athletes, races, and even trail drama. Along the way, I talk Montana Meltdown (our September race), show off my Janji shorts, and spiral into a few tangents about public lands, nationalism, and the shocking lack of trail running trash talk. This one's for the people who hit refresh on UltraSignup for fun. Also—I might be temporarily homeless by the time this drops. So please like, share, and maybe mail me a tent. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Free Outside Show 01:12 In Defense of Being a Fan 03:12 The Importance of Community in Sports 06:00 Embracing Fandom in Ultra Sports 10:16 The Power of Being a Fan 12:12 Conclusion and Community Engagement Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Jul 11

I’m alive in Bangor, Maine — a sentence that somehow feels like the opening line of a novel. In this episode of the Free Outside Show, I walk you through my chaotic arrival to the start of my Appalachian Trail FKT training camp, including a 1 a.m. walk from the airport (no Ubers in Bangor, apparently) and my deep dive into specificity. I’m testing everything: my exact 7,000-calorie-per-day nutrition, gear kit, FKT pacing strategy, and resupply logistics — all in the hardest section of the trail. I also talk about working on the road, training smart, respecting the difficulty of the White Mountains, and building the blueprint for a successful AT attempt. Plus: some sponsor shoutouts to Garage Grown Gear, CS Instant Coffee, and Janji (yes, I am currently dressed head-to-toe in Janji gear — including the pockets I’ll be eating out of for the next 40+ days). Want to support the mission? Check out patreon.com/freeoutside — and until next time, stay elite, my friends. Sound Bites "I just went to Tim Hortons." "I got from Garage Grown Gear." "Life's pretty crazy, you know?" Chapters 00:00 Journey to Bangor, Maine 03:22 Training for the Appalachian Trail 10:27 Preparation and Gear for the Trail Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Jul 7

Today on The Free Outside Podcast, I’m joined by the legendary Cam Hanes—bowhunter, ultrarunner, lifter of heavy things, and yes, friend of Joe Rogan. We dive into everything from Courtney Dauwalter’s mountain mindset to how Disneyland became a tactical hunting joke with a laser pointer (thanks, Joe). Cam shares his thoughts on the growing influencer side of trail running, Western States carnage, public lands politics, and what he really thinks about ultrarunning's obsession with science and splits. We talk about grit, quitting, suffering, and why lifting weights is somehow less cool than ultrarunning. Plus: what hunters and trail runners can learn from each other, and why Cam still calls himself an outsider in this space. If you're into raw takes, wild stories, and the occasional Keep Hoeing joke—this one’s for you. From the Taylor Swift of Ultrarunning, meet Cam Hanes! 🎙️ Sponsor Support: ☕ CS Coffee – Instant coffee that actually tastes good. 🎒 Garage Grown Gear – The best ultralight gear and small outdoor brands, all in one place. 👕 Janji – Adventure-ready running apparel. Use code FREEOUTSIDE for 10% off! 🎧 Episode Chapters 00:00 – Cam Hanes Intro 02:30 – Small Town Ties 05:00 – First Ultra Story 08:20 – Ranking Communities 11:30 – Courtney Dauwalter Talk 14:00 – Love the Process 18:00 – Cocodona Doubts 22:00 – Crew Tricks & COVID 25:30 – Public Lands Rant 30:30 – Rogan Disneyland Story 34:00 – Quitting vs Grit 41:00 – Jeff’s AT Record Goal 46:00 – Western States Opinions 53:00 – Hunting Misconceptions 55:45 – Final Thoughts & Goodbyes Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Jul 4

This week on the Free Outside Podcast, I'm joined by repeat guest and newly crowned Lavaredo 120K podium finisher Alyssa Clark. We talk all things Lavaredo—what makes this epic European race special (aside from the 11 PM start and absurd elevation gain), how she ran within striking distance of Courtney Dauwalter, and how pink hair and frogs helped her stay grounded mid-race. But that’s just the start. Alyssa opens up about the team she’s built around her—nutritionist, mental coach, agent, husband, and even the cats. We go deep on how her mental game has evolved, why she talks to frogs mid-ultra, and how rewriting internal narratives (with the help of a herd of mental sheep) has changed everything. We also dig into where the sport is heading—development pipelines, the blurry line between influencers and athletes, why agents matter, and how media obligations are shifting as trail running professionalizes. If you’ve ever wanted to hear two runners talk about therapy, shoes, mentorship, contracts, and night running tunnel vision all in one episode, this is your jam. Chapters 00:00 Exploring Lava-Eido: A Unique Race Experience 02:50 Race Day Strategies: Preparing for a Night Start 05:48 The Influence of Competition: Running Against the Best 09:10 Race Planning: Balancing Goals and Performance 11:59 Building a Support Team: The Importance of Collaboration 14:53 Nutrition Strategies: Tailoring Fuel for Performance 17:46 Mental Resilience: Strategies for Self-Compassion 20:56 Embracing Identity: Overcoming Past Challenges 23:55 Mindfulness in Racing: Staying Present 26:46 Training for Mental Toughness: The Role of Discomfort 29:48 The Future of Ultra Running: Evolving Support Systems 32:14 The Mental Game in Ultra Running 34:01 Breaking Into the Sport: Challenges and Opportunities 36:19 The Importance of Mentorship and Development in Ultra Running 38:32 Respecting the Elders: Learning from Experience 40:04 Navigating the Influencer vs. Professional Athlete Landscape 44:35 The Role of Brands in Athlete Development 52:20 Building Confidence in Uphill Running 55:31 The Role of Agents in an Athlete's Career 58:08 Media Obligations and Athlete Performance ☕ CS Coffee – Instant coffee that doesn’t suck. Whether you’re climbing through the Italian Alps or just trying to function before your morning run, CS Coffee brews a legit cup in seconds. No gear, no cleanup, just vibes. 🎒 Garage Grown Gear – The best place to discover small, ultralight, and innovative outdoor brands. From niche ultrarunning gear to thru-hiker favorites, they’ve curated the stuff that actually works (and isn’t made by some giant faceless corporation). Shop small, run far. 👕 Janji – Running apparel that performs on big climbs and looks good during your post-race meltdown. Their gear is built for adventures, designed with global inspiration, and supports clean water initiatives. Use code FREEOUTSIDE for 10% off your order and help support the podcast! Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Jun 30

Western States 100 needed an awards show—so we made one. I’m joined by Allison Mercer for the first-ever Westees, a highly serious, extremely prestigious, and entirely made-up award show for the 2025 Western States 100. We hand out awards like: BDE : Big Dad Energy Michigan "Bluff" Award (for premature blowups Scuba Steve Award I’m Not Back, I’m Better Award The Cougar of the Field The Zach Miller Lookalike Award ...and of course, Jeff of the Day We also break down the biggest performances, the carnage, the drama, the livestream chaos, trail fashion disasters, questionable pacing decisions, and how Killian somehow still looks fresh after 100 miles. If you like trail running, roasting, fashion critiques, or just hearing someone talk trash about professional runners while wearing Janji shorts—this episode is for you Janji – The best running shorts in the game (and yes, I’m literally wearing them right now). Use code freeoutside for a discount. 👉 janji.com GarageGrownGear.com CSinstant.coffee Montana Meltdown – Our very own fixed-time race in Bozeman, Montana. 4, 12, and 24-hour options on a beautiful loop course. 👉 Sign up on UltraSignup – just search Montana Meltdown Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Westees Awards 06:08 The Women's Race Highlights 11:58 The Men's Race Highlights 21:45 Awards and Recognitions 28:55 Reflections on Performance and Training 30:25 Celebrating Chris Myers and Brooks' Impact 33:05 The Performance of Hoka and Unsponsored Athletes 39:24 Mo Money, Mo Problems: The Pressure of Sponsorships 42:53 The Rise of Women in Ultra Running 47:00 The Need for Better Storytelling in Ultra Running 51:58 Age is Just a Number: Inspiring Performances 54:58 Consistency and Experience: The Legacy of Jeff Browning 55:57 Hans and His Journey 01:00:00 Sponsorships and Their Impact 01:05:00 Awards and Recognition 01:10:03 FKTs and Trail Challenges 01:15:07 Reflections on the Appalachian Trail Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Jun 26

Western States may be the most iconic race in ultrarunning—but it also comes with carnage, heartbreak, and a pile of DNS and DNF drama. In this episode, I’m joined by the always-entertaining Allison Mercer (of FastestKnownTime.com) to break down the storylines, the runners who didn’t make it to the start line, and wild ideas to spice up the sport (spoiler: mile-seeding starts for elites?). We also dive into the FKT world—John Kelly’s latest madness, what’s changing in the scene, and why FKTs still matter. Plus, I give a quick life update because I’m moving out, living out of a storage unit, and heading out for an Appalachian Trail FKT attempt. Big thanks to our sponsors: 🩳 Janji – Great sun hoodies, shorts, and gear. Use code freeoutside for a discount (let me know what you get!). ☕ CS Instant Coffee – Freeze-dried and trail ready. 🎒 Garage Grown Gear – Your one-stop shop for small-business adventure supplies. Share the episode, leave a review, and help support the chaos. Stay elite, my friends. Chapters 00:00 In Memoriam: The Unbreakable List 02:05 The Impact of Social Media on Performance 04:58 The Women's Field: Intriguing Storylines 07:46 The Men's Field: A New Dynamic 10:48 The Role of Coaches and Competitors 13:54 Heat Training and Its Influence 16:54 Predictions for the Race 19:53 The Unsung Heroes of Coverage 22:41 Final Thoughts and Predictions 33:32 The Rising Stars of Trail Running 34:47 Analyzing the Men's Field Dynamics 37:13 Des Linden: The Most Valuable Pacer 40:26 Women Transitioning from Road to Trail 42:28 The Importance of Recovery in Ultra Running 48:50 The Impact of Social Media on Athletes 53:02 John Kelly's FKT Attempt: A Community Effort Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Jun 23

I just ran the Bighorn 100—no pacers, no headphones, and absolutely no planning. In this episode, I share the full breakdown of how I tackled Wyoming’s classic 100-miler while juggling life stress, sleep deprivation, and a recent pacing stint on the Pacific Crest Trail. From garbage bag drop bags to a ramen-fueled revival at mile 48, this race was anything but conventional. I talk about the wildflowers, the relentless climbs, the raw and rugged vibe of the race, and why I chose to run it in the middle of prepping for my Appalachian Trail FKT attempt. I also dive into the mental side of ultrarunning—what it means to finish, to recalibrate goals mid-race, and to stop caring about optics when you’re throwing up on the side of a mountain. This is a race recap, a therapy session, and a reality check all rolled into one. Whether you're training for a 100 or just want to hear how I managed to survive a race with no taper, a busted ankle, and two weeks of pacing fatigue, this one’s for you. Use code FREEOUTSIDE at Janji.com for sweet gear and check out Garage Grown Gear and CS Instant Coffee to support the show. And if you're feeling generous—or just entertained—drop a five-star review, join the Patreon, or send me a nice email at jeff@freeoutside.com. Let’s get into it. Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Recent Adventures 01:54 The Big Horn 100 Experience 12:02 Challenges Faced During the Race 17:51 Lessons Learned and Reflections 25:07 Looking Ahead to Future Goals

Jun 20

In this brutally honest solo episode, I unpack what’s been the most stressful month of my life—losing my apartment, unresolved medical issues, financial pressure, and trying to prep for a 100-miler I haven’t even packed for. Oh yeah, and I’m attempting a self-supported Appalachian Trail FKT in less than a month. No big deal. But it’s not all chaos. I reflect on the finite nature of miles, what "best" really means, and why shared suffering for the wrong reasons is never worth it. I read from Mike Versteeg’s powerful Colorado Trail FKT post and explore how ego, purpose, and community collide in our outdoor pursuits. If you've ever questioned the "why" behind your adventures—or what you’re asking others to carry for your dreams—this one’s worth a listen. Mike Versteeg's Colorado Trail: https://satisfyrunning.com/blogs/possessed/colorado-trail-fkt-field-notes Chapters 00:00 Navigating Life's Challenges 01:30 The Finite Nature of Miles 06:08 Lessons from Failure and Community 09:44 Embracing Adventure Amidst Uncertainty

Jun 16

On this episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I’m joined by coach, ultra runner, and creator Justin Andreas—aka Running in Stash. We talk about his wild transformation from jacked military bodybuilder to golden hour 100-miler finisher and trail coach. We dive deep into his life in Alaska, where training includes moose dodging, sub-zero treadmill marathons, and running in negative 49 degrees… in a singlet. We cover everything from his Bighorn 100 tips (mud. lots of mud.) to racing in sandals, brushing teeth mid-ultra, taper meltdowns, and why the golden hour might be the most inspiring part of the sport. We even dish out spicy takes on Spring Energy, toothbrush resets, and how coaching is more about emotional support than the perfect workout. Whether you're a mid-pack legend or an aspiring 200-mile cowboy, this episode brings wisdom, laughs, and plenty of stories from the far north. Also, stay for Justin’s mantra: “Don’t be a hero in the first half. Don’t be a b*tch in the second.” Chapters 00:00 From Bodybuilding to Ultra Running: A Journey of Transformation 02:59 Preparing for the Bighorn 100: Insights and Experiences 05:58 The Unique Culture of Ultra Running: Community and Support 08:50 Training in Extreme Conditions: The Alaska Experience 11:57 Wildlife Encounters: Running with Nature's Challenges 15:01 The Golden Hour: Celebrating Every Finish 18:05 Learning from Experience: Coaching and Personal Growth 20:55 Mindset Matters: Mantras and Mental Resilience 29:57 Running Rituals and Playful Competition 30:56 The Joy of Running in Sandals 32:49 Camaraderie in Racing 33:22 Physical Fitness Tests in the Air Force 34:33 Lessons from Nutrition Mistakes 38:00 The Magic of Teeth Brushing During Races 40:31 Embracing the Taper 44:47 The Freedom of Trail Running 48:33 The Value of Having a Coach 51:37 Excitement for Upcoming Races Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Jun 13

In this solo episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I dive into a topic that every endurance athlete eventually wrestles with: What’s your why? I unpack what it really means to chase big goals in the era of social media, external validation, and highlight reels. From the pressure of performance posts to the value of community and joy in the moment, this is an unfiltered look at what keeps us coming back to these wild endurance events—even when nobody's watching. Topics include: -Why social media can distort your motivation -The difference between intrinsic and extrinsic goals -Lessons from my worst FKTs and best trail moments -The underrated power of fun, struggle, and shared experience -Why Cocodona doesn’t “make” anyone—and why you do -Encouragement for media, volunteers, and the mid-pack majority -And how the ultra/trail community is more diverse than it looks Whether you're a front-runner, back-of-the-packer, or just love long miles, this episode is a reminder to step back and ask: Why am I really doing this? Chapters 00:00 Exploring the Intrinsic Why 06:58 The Three Pillars of Motivation 10:12 The Role of Community in Endurance Sports Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Jun 9

Kate Pallardy joins the Free Outside Podcast to talk about longevity in ultrarunning, balancing motherhood with elite racing, and how her mindset has evolved over the years. From 100-mile podiums to navigating the chaos of parenting and training, Kate shares how she’s learned to stay present, resilient, and grounded—even when everything feels out of control. We dive into: -The reality of training with toddlers and unpredictability -How mindset work and self-awareness changed her racing -What she learned from big DNFs—and big wins -Recovery, sleep, and why less can be more -And her unique approach to nutrition and fueling This one’s honest, inspiring, and packed with hard-earned wisdom from one of the most thoughtful voices in the sport. Follow Kate online: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/katepallardy YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuOTtH5LZojo8uZ-hmuosCg Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Kate Palardy 03:05 The Unique Challenge of 100-Mile Races 05:54 Pacing and Shared Experiences in Ultra Running 08:56 Transitioning from Triathlons to Ultra Running 11:51 The Joy of Simplicity in Ultra Running 15:00 Training Differences: Marathons vs. 100-Mile Races 17:56 Life Hacks for Running with Kids 20:54 How Family Life Influences Training 23:57 The Journey to Becoming a Pro Triathlete 27:02 The Process of Earning a Pro Card 33:40 The Evolution of Triathlon 35:02 Rediscovering the Joy of Racing 36:57 Family Dynamics and Racing 40:22 Balancing Family and Athletic Goals 43:33 The Journey of Motherhood and Running 51:06 A Life-Changing 27-Mile Run 59:34 Finding Purpose in Running

Jun 6

In this solo episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I share my full game plan for 2025—including how I’m building from Cocodona 250 to the Appalachian Trail self-supported FKT attempt this August. I break down how I’m training, recovering, testing gear, and optimizing logistics for what could be a once-in-a-lifetime record shot. We cover: -How Cocodona fits into my 2025 plan -Why I’m racing Bighorn 100 as an FKT-style training run -Nutrition experiments and how I’m training my gut for endurance -Gear strategy: headlamps, socks, resupply boxes, portable charging -My flexible (but spreadsheet-heavy) approach to planning FKTs -The impact of trail damage from hurricanes and federal cuts to trail crews -And why I think “just eat more” is still the most revolutionary ultra strategy out there -This is a behind-the-scenes look at what it actually takes to prep for a 2,000+ mile FKT. Plus, I shout out a few sponsors that help make it all possible and give a sneak peek of a secret June project. 🔗 Sponsors: Janji – Sun hoodies, shorts, and gear I’ll wear on the AT: janji.com Garage Grown Gear – My go-to for ultralight headlamps and small brands CS Instant Coffee – The frothy instant coffee I’ll be drinking on-trail 💥 Support the podcast and FKT: patreon.com/freeoutside Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Year Ahead 02:50 Training and Preparation for Upcoming Races 06:02 Nutrition and Gear for the Appalachian Trail 08:47 Sponsorships and Support for the Journey

Jun 2

In this episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I’m joined by Allison Powell, who turned her Cocodona 250 into a full-blown cinematic universe—with costumes, movie soundtracks, and a race plan inspired by Galaxy Quest, Dune, Game of Thrones, Mad Max, Star Wars, and Doctor Who. But when hail, hypothermia, and mud rivers entered the plot, the script changed fast. We dive into Allison’s brilliant and brutal journey through sleep-deprivation, pacer therapy sessions, medical alerts, and the art of holding hands on trail. This is one of the most insightful, entertaining, and emotionally raw Cocodona 250 recaps out there. Whether you're chasing 250 miles or just curious how a Dune mindset breaks down in a thunderstorm, this one’s a wild ride. We talk about: -How movie themes shaped her race mindset -The sleep deprivation spiral and when it became dangerous -Her learning curve with layering, eating, and letting go of rigid plans -The power of responsive crew support -Why she's going back for more—and doing it for public lands Follow Alison's writing: AllisonHardingPowell.substack.com Support her Runners for Public Lands fundraiser for 2026 Cocodona! Follow Allison on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/allisonhpowell Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside Chapters 00:00 Race Planning and Themes 01:05 The Race Begins: Galaxy Quest and Dune 03:47 Crown King and the Importance of Mindset 06:28 Game of Thrones: Nighttime Challenges 09:38 Mingus Mountain: The Struggles of Sleep Deprivation 12:19 Jerome and the Quest for Rest 15:00 Sedona: The Turning Point 18:03 The Final Stretch: Overcoming Obstacles 27:05 The Struggles of the Hangover Trail 30:15 Facing Exhaustion and Frustration 33:27 Medical Concerns and Hypothermia 36:35 The Importance of Sleep in Ultra Running 41:33 Lessons Learned from the Race 44:33 The Final Push to the Finish Line 48:06 Reflections and Future Plans

May 30

Welcome to Trail TMZ, the spicy trail running news breakdown you didn’t know you needed. I’m Jeff Garmire, and this week I dive into the carnage at Western States—Jim Walmsley and Hayden Hawks are out, and so is the “Unbreakable 2” film project (yes, really). I give my unfiltered take on why that matters, how storytelling in our sport is being fumbled, and why it’s time for trail films to embrace the chaos instead of bailing when stars drop. Then, things heat up with Camille Herron’s cryptic Instagram post—where she dubs herself a sports whistleblower. What’s the truth? What’s hearsay? I break it down and talk about the real harm of social media call-outs in a sport that needs clarity more than confusion. Next up, we’ve got controversy at Black Canyon 100K involving Aravaipa Running, unauthorized aid, course-cutting, and a 20-minute penalty that turned into a full DQ. Is it a conflict of interest if a team athlete breaks the rules? I was there filming and have thoughts. And finally, we talk about how college athletics might implode thanks to SEC Football drama—and what that means for the future of running programs and the next generation of trail and ultra athletes. This episode has drama, nuance, hot takes, and just enough sarcasm to get me in trouble again. Chapters 00:00 Western States Controversies and Unbreakable 2 04:16 Camille Herron: The Sports Whistleblower 10:01 Aravaipa Running: Cheating Allegations and Controversy 15:24 The Future of College Sports and Its Impact on Running Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

May 26

I sit down with Coree Woltering—pro athlete for Merrell, Janji, and Smartwool—for a raw and hilarious conversation about his redemption at the Cocodona 250. From being the very first person to drop out of the inaugural race to finishing it five years later, Coree shares the highs, lows, and muddy middle miles of his journey. We talk about impromptu race entries (Venmoed Southern States 200), wild hallucinations, ankle weirdness, and what happens when your crew gets stranded with a flat tire halfway through a 250-mile race. Coree also opens up about finding joy in ultra-distance running, managing a team for Merrell, and his ambitious upcoming plans—including an Appalachian Trail FKT attempt and maybe even Moab 240. Follow Coree online: https://www.instagram.com/coreewoltering Chapters 00:00 Corey Woltering's Journey Begins 02:45 Redemption at Cocodona 06:01 Lessons from Southern States 08:52 The Start of Cocodona 2023 12:07 Navigating Challenges and Embracing Adventure 15:05 The Pacer Experience 18:01 Unexpected Setbacks 21:08 The Descent into Jerome 24:09 The Hangover Trail Experience 34:40 The Journey of Social Media in Ultra Running 37:37 Experiencing the Highs and Lows of Endurance Racing 39:29 The Breakdown: Mental and Physical Challenges 42:44 Crew Dynamics and Support in Ultra Events 45:37 Navigating the Final Stretch: The Last Marathon 49:41 The Finish Line Experience: Quiet Triumphs 53:47 Reflections on Future Races and Goals 56:38 The Evolution of an Ultra Runner: From Triathlons to Ultra Events 01:00:36 Athlete Management: Bridging Experience and Brand Needs Shop at our sponsors: Janji.com, garagegrowngear.com, and csinstant.coffee Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

May 23

Today’s episode starts off with something I might just turn into a regular segment: Trail TMZ. We dig into the controversy surrounding William Goodge's run across Australia and the data that has people wondering—from heart rate anomalies to 55 mph GPS spikes. Then we take a brief detour into the Camille Herron Wikipedia saga and my lingering sadness that she never came on the show. But the real highlight is a deep conversation with Aaron Fleisher, a fellow five-time Cocodona 250 finisher. We talk about his journey from stage racing and thru-hiking into the world of 200s, and how he found success (and beer) on trail. We get into hallucination stories, racing strategies, sleep theories, and the evolution of Cocodona over the past five years. Plus, Aaron breaks down his experience at Tour de Géants and what it’s like to compete in a race that makes U.S. ultras look like casual jogs. We wrap up with some trail name lore (“Food Boobs,” and "Loophole") and ponder how Cocodona became the most community-embraced ultra in the U.S. Oh, and yes—there might be a bumper sticker involved that says "Cocodona sucks, tell your friends." Follow Aaron online: https://www.instagram.com/mittenmadness/ Follow and shop at out sponsors: Janji.com, Garagegrowngear.com, and Csinstant.coffee Chapters 00:00 – Trail TMZ: Goodge, Cockrell & the Controversy 03:30 – Camille Herron, Wikipedia & Podcast Rejections 06:00 – Introducing Aaron Fleisher & Cocodona Beginnings 10:00 – Beer, Sandals & Surviving the Inaugural Year 14:00 – Sleep, Strategy & Hallucinations at 200 Milers 19:00 – Through-Hiking Mentality in Ultras 23:00 – Tour des Géants: Europe’s Wildest Ultra 28:00 – Cultural Clash & Why Tour Felt Life-Changing 32:00 – Cocodona’s Future & Becoming a Community Race 36:00 – Trail Names, Reflections & Last Person Standing Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside Keywords Cocodona 250, ultrarunning, trail running, 200 mile race, Jeff Garmire, Aaron Fleisher, Free Outside Podcast, thru hiking, Tour des Geants, Tour de Glaciers, ultramarathon, trail TMZ, William Gooch, running across Australia, watchmuling, heart rate zone, hallucinations ultrarunning, beer mile, food boobs, trail names, Aravaipa Running, Cocodona recap, trail race strategy, sleep in ultras, ultra running controversy, elite trail running, long distance running, through hiker mindset, adventure racing, Grand to Grand, 200 milers, ultra endurance, running gossip

May 19

I sit down with Kevin Russ—board game designer, iPhone photography legend, thru hiker, and freshly minted Cocodona 250 finisher. We dive into Kevin’s wild journey from shooting landscapes with just his phone to creating successful board games, and now, tackling 200+ mile races. He opens up about the physical and mental toll of Cocodona, the moments that tested him most, and the role his crew played in getting him to the finish. We also explore how creativity overlaps with endurance and what’s next for Kevin in both ultra running and game design. Check out Kevin on the internet: Website: https://www.kevinruss.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kevinruss/ Check out his board Game: https://amzn.to/3ZpJ0HT Support our sponsors: Janji.com Garagegrowngear.com Csinstant.coffee 00:00 The Rise of an iPhone Photographer 04:03 From Photography to Through Hiking 06:26 Transitioning to Ultra Running 09:19 Preparing for Cocodona 250 12:05 Training Challenges and the Chipotle Challenge 14:45 Cocodona 250: The Race Begins 17:26 Weather Challenges and Mindset Shifts 20:23 The Role of Crew and Support 22:53 Capturing the Journey on Camera 24:14 Navigating Sleep Deprivation 26:57 Injuries and Mental Resilience 29:18 The Role of Pacers and Crew Support 30:27 Facing Challenges in the Final Stretch 35:18 Reflections on the Race Experience 37:14 Future Plans and Training Insights 39:46 Hallucinations and the Nature of Endurance 41:09 Underrated Natural Beauty in the U.S. 43:04 The Journey into Board Game Design 45:48 Launching a Board Game 48:28 The Board Game Convention Experience Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

May 16

Today we have one of the most inspiring runners I know—Jennie Chisholm. She’s a mom of four boys, a Triple Crowner, and a two-time Cocodona 250 finisher. But she didn’t find ultrarunning the usual way. She stumbled into it—literally—on a whim while thru-hiking the Arizona Trail. She tells the incredible story of how her family went from watching Cocodona as curious hikers to toeing the start line with hand-me-down running vests and brand-new shoes. We talk about how her sons became ultrarunners, what it’s like racing 250 miles while constantly worrying about your kids (who are also racing), and the chaos of coordinating multiple crews and pacers as a full-on family affair. She shares the highs and heartbreaking lows from this year’s Cocodona—dealing with sickness, hypothermia, and emotional breakdowns on the trail, all while pushing through to the finish herself. We also dive into training, nutrition (or the lack thereof), trail names, and how thru-hiking helped shape her kids into some of the toughest young runners in the sport. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Jenny Chisholm's Journey 03:10 The Accidental Entry into Cocodona 05:59 Family Dynamics in Ultra Running 09:06 Logistics of Racing as a Family 11:52 Challenges Faced During the Race 15:05 The Emotional Toll of DNFing 17:56 Finding Focus Amidst Chaos 21:00 The Role of Family Support 23:52 Reflections on the Race Experience 39:33 The Emotional Roller Coaster of Racing 48:12 Navigating Nutrition and Training Challenges 55:02 Building Confidence Through Thru-Hiking 01:01:08 The Future of Family Adventures 01:09:31 Embracing the Journey and Lessons Learned Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

May 12

This week, I scrapped the pre-recorded episode I had ready to go and decided to hit record and talk live—from the post-Cocodona haze. After five finishes at Cocodona 250, I figured it was time to finally answer the question: Should you sign up for Cocodona? I break down what it really takes to toe that start line, what happens in the mid-pack where most of us live for days on end, and why finishing should always mean more than your pace chart or Instagram recap. This year, things went sideways. COVID showed up early (for me and, unfortunately, my whole crew), and I had to go deep into my why just to keep moving. I talk about that, how my mindset has shifted, the myth of “self-supported” Cocodona, and how this race is more about soul-searching than splits. There’s also some advice on how to register, a behind-the-scenes look at Golden Hour, a possibly meth-themed aid station (yep), and what keeps me coming back year after year. I also rant (gently) about influencer culture, read some of your reviews, and shout out my amazing crew, my favorite Janji gear, and the community that makes this wild desert dream possible. If you’re on the fence about Cocodona, this is the episode for you. It’s raw, it’s real, and it’s my fifth year of running straight into the unknown. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Cocodona 250 02:53 The Mindset Behind Endurance Racing 06:11 Strategies for Signing Up and Preparing 08:52 The Reality of Support in Ultra Running 12:09 The Adventure of Cocodona 250 14:57 Golden Hour and the Emotional Finish 17:47 Reflections on the Experience 21:02 Closing Thoughts and Encouragement Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

May 9

The crazy story of my fifth finish at Cocodona 250. This year was full of surprises — I ran with a sickness, hallucinated witches and aliens, battled rain, hail, and mud, and somehow kept going with the help of an incredible crew. I break down the highs and lows, from brain fog and rolled ankles to a bobcat sighting, and even the odd gear fix that saved the day (hint: Vagisil). If you’re into ultrarunning, trail running, or just want to hear about pushing through 250 miles of chaos, this episode is full of stories, lessons, and plenty of humor. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Cocodona 250 Experience 03:00 Race Day Preparations and Crew Dynamics 05:51 The Struggles Begin: Weather and Physical Challenges 09:10 Hallucinations and Mental Battles 12:10 Navigating Through Adversity: The Role of Crew 14:52 The Mid-Race Shift: Coping with Illness 17:49 Finding Momentum: The Power of Music 21:02 Celebrating Small Victories 24:03 The Final Push: Overcoming the Last Hurdles 26:56 The Finish Line: Reflections and Revelations Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comWatch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outsideWebsite: www.Freeoutside.comInstagram: thefreeoutsidefacebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

May 5

In this solo episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I break down my full race plan for the 2025 Cocodona 250, the massive 250-mile ultra across Arizona. I walk you through how I’m approaching the unusually cold weather, the new technical course changes, and the long stretches without pacers. I explain why I’m planning to go out more aggressively this year, how I’m dialing in my carbs, salt, and hydration, and where I’ll rely on my crew and pacers the most. I share my split predictions, the key sections I’m watching for, and some honest reflections on how far I’ve come as a runner and a podcaster. Whether you’re following Cocodona or just curious about what it takes to line up for something this big, this episode gives you an inside look at my mindset and strategy heading into race week. Chapters 00:00 Cocadona 250 Race Strategy 03:09 Course Navigation and Aid Stations 05:55 Pacing and Nutrition Strategy 09:07 Self-Sufficiency and Crew Dynamics 11:57 Reflections on Podcasting and Growth Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

May 2

On today’s episode of the Free Outside Show, I’m joined by runner, ultimate frisbee enthusiast, and Cocodona crewing expert Allison Mercer. We relive wild stories from the inaugural Cocodona 250 — from cactus naps and glass-covered descents to heckling runners mid-race. We talk predictions for this year’s showdown, the “Courtney effect,” and whether European pros will shift the ultra scene. We debate mind games, pacing strategies, why volunteering matters, and why Cocodona is basically ultrarunning’s March Madness. Follow Allison online: https://www.instagram.com/onewomandanceparty Follow our sponsors: Janji, Garage Grown Gear Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Allison Mercer and Cocodona 02:50 The Inaugural Cocodona Experience 06:08 Crew Dynamics and Race Strategy 08:46 The Evolution of Cocodona and Its Popularity 11:59 The Role of Volunteers in Ultra Running 14:58 Pacing and the Emotional Journey 17:58 The Impact of Weather on Race Performance 20:56 The Influence of Social Media and Celebrity Runners 23:50 The Future of Cocodona and Its Competitors 27:11 Conclusion and Final Thoughts 46:08 The Evolving Landscape of Ultra Running 52:39 Courtney's Dominance and the Competitive Field 56:58 Mindset and Strategy in Ultra Racing 01:01:55 The Future of Cocodona and Race Dynamics Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

May 2

On this wild episode of the Free Outside Podcast, we talk with filmmaker Derrick Lytle and into everything Cocodona 250 — from race predictions and course changes to the strength-versus-speed debate heating up in the ultra scene. But first? We take on the internet’s most absurd hypothetical: could 100 men beat a silverback gorilla? (Spoiler: probably not.) We trade predictions on Courtney Dauwalter, Ryan Sandes, Mike McKnight, and more while roasting obstacle racers, dissecting mud strategies, and dreaming up the ultimate post-race media blitz. Expect hot takes, cold-weather prep, and plenty of laughs in this pre-race breakdown of one of the most exciting 200-milers of the year. Check out Derrick's Youtube Channel: @TheJuniperLab Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Light Banter 03:00 The Gorilla Debate: Humans vs. Nature 06:01 Cocodona 250: Anticipation and Excitement 08:53 The Impact of the Courtney Effect 12:03 Women in Ultra Running: Breaking Barriers 15:07 Course Changes and Challenges in Cocodona 18:01 Weather and Its Influence on Performance 21:01 The Evolution of Ultra Running Competitors 23:57 CrossFit vs. High Rocks: A Lighthearted Comparison 25:25 Transitioning from CrossFit to Endurance Sports 26:26 Mike McKnight's Preparation for Cocodona 29:11 The Debate on Strength Training for Runners 30:25 DJ Fox: The Obstacle Course Racer's Edge 31:47 Predictions for Cocodona 250 33:27 Weather and Logistics Impacting Race Performance 35:51 The Competitive Landscape of Cocodona 250 38:10 Emerging Athletes and Dark Horses 40:06 Nutrition Strategies for Ultra Runners 42:23 Broadcasting Challenges at Cocodona 250 Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Apr 28

On today's episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I’m joined by outdoor filmmaker Drew Darby, and we cover everything from his unexpected start filming inside prisons to becoming one of the most exciting filmmakers in ultrarunning. We dive into how working in sensitive environments shaped his storytelling, the chaos (and comedy) of filming 100-mile races, and why long-form content is making a comeback. Drew shares his thoughts on building a career in the outdoor film industry, what it’s like to turn passion into a full-time job, and the importance of telling deeper stories beyond the race results. Plus, we brainstorm a "Media Mile" race, swapping cameras instead of trophies. It's an episode packed with filmmaking mishaps, creative advice, and a whole lot of laughs. Follow Drew Darby online: https://www.instagram.com/drewbdarby Chapters 00:00 From Prisons to Filmmaking: Drew's Unique Journey 04:35 The Intersection of Politics and Filmmaking 09:06 Short Form vs Long Form: The Filmmaker's Dilemma 17:27 The Pressure of Timely Storytelling 21:53 Navigating Brand Relationships in Filmmaking 28:58 Transitioning to Ultra Sports Filmmaking 38:35 Overcoming Physical Limitations 39:30 Transitioning to Freelance Filmmaking 42:12 Navigating Brand Collaborations 44:09 Life Beyond Filmmaking 47:18 The Challenges of Travel 49:26 Filmmaker Nightmare Stories 53:39 Advice for Aspiring Filmmakers 01:01:25 The Importance of Storytelling in Filmmaking Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Apr 25

I sit down with Doc, the voice behind Hiker Trash Radio—a podcast that’s interviewed over 450 adventurers from thru-hikers to Barkley Marathons legends. We dive deep into Doc’s wild behind-the-scenes experience covering the 2024 Barkley Marathons as a first-time invited media member. From nearly camping in the wrong forest to building trust at the Yellow Gate, he shares how he captured the stories of runners, crews, and chaos at one of the world’s most mysterious races. Check out the Barkley Marathons Bonus Episodes: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5KrLfLJn9Joy6PwwX3uEFR?si=88778974ca8d44f4 We talk about John Kelly’s fun run finish, the brutal new Ball Bearing Hill, and the unglamorous truth about nap-induced DNFs. Plus, we explore the evolution of Hiker Trash Radio, the art of giving trail names, and why Doc’s doctorate turned into a trail moniker. Check out Hiker Trash Radio YouTube: ⁨@hikertrashradio⁩ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gvi6HyY4wdQ7u8wWdSnkx?si=db514a5572e34e34 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hikertrashradio Whether you love the Appalachian Trail, John Muir Trail, Continental Divide Trail, or just thrive on tales of ultrarunning pain and perseverance, this one’s got something for every dirtbag dreamer. support our sponsors: Janji.com GarageGrownGear.com Csinstant.coffee Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Barkley Marathons 02:48 Doc's Journey to Cover the Barkley 06:07 The Anticipation of Race Day 08:49 Interviews and Insights from Runners 11:53 The Race Begins: Expectations vs. Reality 15:01 The Challenges of the Barkley Course 17:58 The Atmosphere During the Race 20:57 Reflections on the Race Experience 24:04 The Aftermath: No Finishers This Year 30:57 The Final Moments of the Race 32:01 Reflections on Race Difficulty 33:30 Media Coverage and Content Creation 36:01 The Evolution of the Podcast 37:48 The Journey into Backpacking 46:00 Trail Names and Their Stories 51:01 The Magic of Thru-Hiking 55:16 Exploring Adventure Stories Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF

Apr 21

I sit down with Tim and Renee—better known as Simply the ⁨@reneeandtim⁩ . These two have thru-hiked the Pacific Crest Trail (PCT) and Continental Divide Trail (CDT), set a Fastest Known Time (FKT), and built a massive online audience with their content on backpacking, ultrarunning, and dehydrated trail meals. Follow the Thru Hikers on the internet Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thruhikers/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thruhikers? Website: https://thruhikers.co/ We talk about their full-time careers in plant genetics and engineering to outdoor influencers, the pressure of going viral on TikTok, and what it’s like filming content while hiking thousands of miles. Renee shares the story behind her self-supported Oregon FKT and how spreadsheets, heatwaves, and stubborn fire seasons played a role. Check out The Barkley Bonus Episodes: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5KrLfLJn9Joy6PwwX3uEFR?si=cb96d5bf10ca48f3 Support our sponsors Janji.com, Garagegrowngear.com and Csinstant.coffee Plus, we dive into: -The realities of turning hiking into a career -Dehydrated food experiments gone wrong (bibimbap, we’re looking at you) Trail name origins ("Blue Man" and "Sausage") -How to prep for your first long-distance hike (spoiler: you don’t need to be an expert) -Their book combining backpacking recipes and advice -And why trail running has become their go-to between big hikes This episode is perfect for aspiring thru-hikers, FKT nerds, trail chefs, and anyone wondering how to turn a love of the outdoors into a lifestyle. Chapters 00:00 Adventuring with an Audience 03:06 Balancing Careers and Adventures 05:59 The Journey to FKTs 09:00 The Transition to Ultra Running 11:56 Navigating Social Media Growth 15:04 The Process of Writing a Book 34:51 The Journey of Publishing a Book 36:44 Wildlife Encounters and Adventure Stories 41:05 The Art of Dehydrating Food for Hiking 50:29 Preparing for a Thru-Hike Adventure 55:40 Trail Names and Their Stories Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Keywords Thruhiking, Ultra Running, FKT, Adventure, Social Media, Content Creation, Hiking, Outdoor Activities, Balancing Work and Adventure, Recipe Book, hiking, adventure, wildlife encounters, thru-hiking, book publishing, dehydrating food, trail names, outdoor stories, FKT, hiking tips

Apr 18

I sit down with Peter Mortimer, the champion of the inaugural Arizona Monster 300-miler. Just hours after finishing, Pete was back at work—because ultrarunning is expensive and PTO is a myth. We talk about his strategy for managing sleep, how he trains for 200+ mile races, and what it’s like to hallucinate a jaguar that turns out to be an actual cow. Follow Pete Mortimer on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pjmortimer/ We also dive into Pete’s “finish it once” race mentality, his plans to take on the Triple Crown of 200s, and his alter ego as a culinary legend known as Pete’s Meats, feeding hallucinating runners brisket on mountain summits. Plus, the ridiculous story of how we first met—at the Barkley Marathons, where Pete forgot his bib number and everything went sideways from there. Support us by supporting our sponsors: Janji: Janji.com Garage Grown Gear: GarageGrownGear.com CS Coffee: Csinstant.coffee If you like stories of long-distance suffering, sleep deprivation, racing horses at Man Against Horse, and the sheer absurdity of ultra culture, this episode is for you. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Arizona Monster 03:06 Experiencing the Arizona Trail 06:01 Race Strategy and Pacing 08:51 Training for the 300-Mile Challenge 12:03 Mental Challenges During the Race 15:02 Post-Race Reflections and Future Plans 24:41 The Barkley Marathons Experience 29:04 Cocadona Training and Connections 31:30 Pete's Meats and Community Engagement 36:11 Philosophy of Racing and Travel 38:57 Unique Racing Experiences: Man Against Horse 42:54 Eight More Miles Coaching Philosophy Keywords Arizona Monster, ultra running, endurance races, race strategy, training, mental challenges, Peter Mortimer, Jeff Garmire, 300-mile race, pacing, Barkley Marathons, Cocadona, ultra running, Pete's Meats, community, racing philosophy, Man Against Horse, coaching, endurance sports, running experiences

Apr 14

I’m recording live (well, semi-live) while running through mossy, Jurassic Park-like trails outside Portland. Just minutes in, I round a corner and meet a man with a blood-covered hand telling me someone stabbed his dog with a switchblade. So naturally... I kept running. Support our sponsors , janji.com, garagegrowngear.com, and Csinstant.coffee In this chaotic on-foot monologue, I dive into the Gorge Waterfalls 100K, which just happened to be the USA Trail Team selection race for the Mountain Ultra Trail World Championships. I talk through the carnage (the race kind), recap the course records smashed by Adam Peterman, Shea Aquilano, and others, and reflect on how trail running might be entering a new competitive era. Then, I join up with Derek Lytle post-race to break it all down: the athletes, the coverage, the waterfalls, and the fact that every race we've filmed has somehow produced course records. Coincidence? Probably. But we’re claiming it anyway. Also... there's a very old cat named Blackberry. Chapters 00:00 A Run Through the Unexpected 03:03 Trail Running Championships and Team USA 05:50 Gorge Waterfalls Race Recap 09:01 Record-Breaking Performances 11:56 Looking Ahead: Future Races and Competitions Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Keywords trail running, Gorge Waterfalls, USA Trail Team, championships, record-breaking, running safety, outdoor adventures, race recap, competitive running, athlete insights

Apr 11

Today on the Free Outside Podcast, I talk with Connor “Jackrabbit” Chapdelaine, who’s attempting the Calendar Year Triple Crown—thru-hiking the Appalachian Trail, Pacific Crest Trail, and Continental Divide Trail all in a single year. We break down how the idea got planted during a hike on the AT, what it takes to train for 8,000 miles, and why he’s bringing a pillow, a stove, and maybe even a thermos. Follow Connor/Jackrabbit online: https://www.instagram.com/JackrabbitHikes/ Connor shares his strategy for navigating snow in the Sierra, reroutes on the PCT, and fires on the CDT—plus his plan to survive town stops without spending his entire budget. We also get into ultralight gear hacks, and his favorite trail meals. Connor breaks down his food tier list (spoiler: mushroom Knorr = trail exile) and how his dad is helping run the back-end logistics with a label maker and full “dad command center.” Support us by supporting our sponsors: CS Coffee: https://www.csinstant.coffee/ Janji: https://janji.com/ Garage Grown Gear: https://www.garagegrowngear.com/ If you’ve ever been curious about the logistics, gear, food, and mindset needed to thru-hike the PCT, CDT, and AT in one year, this episode is packed with real insight and ridiculous stories—including tuna and peanut butter wraps, dry-scooped coffee, and a thru-hiker potluck that no one asked for. Chapters 04:00 The Aspiration of the Calendar Year Triple Crown 10:30 Overcoming Obstacles in the Journey 13:51 Planning and Timing for Success 19:25 Budgeting for the Adventure 24:20 Family Support and Logistics 25:12 Training for High Mileage 31:29 Food Choices on the Trail 37:58 The Quirks of Trail Humor 38:51 Trail Food Favorites and Disasters 40:56 Resupply Strategies and Bargain Finds 41:59 The Art of Coffee on the Trail 43:46 The Triple Crown Experience 45:38 Friendships Formed on the Trail 47:59 The Emotional Connection to Hiking 50:04 Gear Essentials for Long Trails 56:14 The Importance of Comfort Items 59:34 Post-Hike Plans and Future Goals 01:05:15 Memorable Trail Names and Their Stories Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Apr 7

I sit down with pro ultrarunner Alyssa Clark to talk about racing at the highest level, dealing with self-worth and performance, and why hallucinating pandas might be a sign you're doing something right. Follow Alyssa online: Substack: https://substack.com/@alyssaclark3 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theory_in_motion/ Alyssa just won the legendary Hurt 100 and holds the Supported FKT on the Pinhoti Trail, but her journey to the top has been anything but easy. We dive into her start in ultras (skipping the marathon entirely), the challenges of racing in Europe, the reality of going pro, and the game-changing impact of working with a mental coach. We also get into the weeds on topics like hydration strategy, sleep deprivation, why pacers and crew can be tricky, and how Strava sometimes kills the vibe. Alyssa opens up about running 95 marathons in 95 days, starting her Substack "Theorizing in Motion," and building a life around motion—both literally and creatively. Support our Sponsors: CS Coffee: https://www.csinstant.coffee/ Garage Grown Gear: https://www.garagegrowngear.com/ Janji: https://janji.com/ Whether you're into 200 milers, mental performance, or just love hearing real talk from someone who’s been through the highs and lows of this sport, this one's packed with insight, humor, and straight-up honesty. 🎧 Available wherever you get your podcasts.

Apr 4

In this episode, I dive into the recent controversy surrounding the Arizona Monster trail race, where a failed live stream led to a very public clash between the race director and the live stream operator. I break down what happened, explore how social media amplified the drama, and share some thoughts on how these kinds of disputes can be handled more constructively. Along the way, I also talk about what I’ve been learning in my recent training camp and reflect on the importance of keeping conflict resolution behind the scenes whenever possible—for the good of the sport and the people involved. Support our sponsors: - www.janji.com - www.garagegrowngear.com - https://www.csinstant.coffee/ Sound Bites "We sprain news, we don't break it." "This is going to be a tricky subject." "Stay elite, my friends." Chapters 00:00 The Arizona Monster Controversy 04:37 Social Media Warfare in Trail Running 09:22 Escalation of the Dispute 11:43 Lessons Learned from the Drama 12:32 Upcoming Events and Personal Updates Keywords Arizona Monster, trail running, social media, live stream, controversy, public disputes, race director, live streaming, community, drama

Mar 31

Today on the Free Outside Podcast, I sit down with the voice of Cocodona and one of the most passionate people in trail running media—Chris Worden. With over 150 races on UltraSignup and years of experience in both radio and accounting, Chris shares the wild journey from small-town sports broadcasting to being the emotional anchor of ultrarunning’s most epic live streams. Follow Chris on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/clword77/ We talk about what goes into calling a multi-day race like Cocodona, the behind-the-scenes chaos (including some live broadcast bloopers), how Aravaipa has become the gold standard in race coverage, and why accessibility and storytelling are fueling the sport’s explosion. Plus, Chris opens up about getting into Western States this year after six years of lottery heartbreak—and what it means. If you’ve ever gotten sucked into the Cocodona livestream chat, dreamed of finishing your first ultra, or wondered how the heck someone commentates for 100 hours straight, this episode is for you. And yes... I made Chris call my 2025 Cocodona finish before I’ve even toed the line. So, technically I’ve already won. Support our sponsors Janji.com and GarageGrownGear.com Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Trail Running and Commentary 03:00 The Journey into Live Streaming and Broadcasting 06:07 Memorable Events and Personal Experiences in Commentary 08:50 The Evolution of Ultra Running and Accessibility 11:59 The Future of Ultra Running Events 14:52 Pre-Production and Storytelling in Broadcasting 21:03 The Impact of Broadcasting on the Community 24:14 Challenges and Learning Experiences in Commentary 27:54 Navigating Live Broadcasts and Viewer Engagement 30:14 The Evolution of Live Streaming in Ultra Running 33:10 Engagement Through Chat: The Double-Edged Sword 36:45 The Importance of Experience and Dedication 39:50 The Future of Ultra Running Coverage 47:38 Chris's Journey to Western States 56:14 The Emotional Connection of Trail Running Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com

Mar 28

This one’s a little different—no guests, no live race calls—just me sharing the full story of how I went from a bullied high school runner to a thru-hiker to an ultra runner trying to get comfortable being uncomfortable. I talk about quitting school to hike the Pacific Crest Trail, building a monster endurance base through FKTs and 8,000-mile slogs, and how I’ve had to completely rewire my brain and body to embrace faster, higher-effort racing. We hit on pacing, fueling, treadmill hiking, crew control issues (yes, I admit it), and why I “Jeff” everything in life. Plus, I talk about my weird obsession with making my own drink mix, being risk-averse in ultras, and how training for Cocodona (year 5!) is going. There’s a bunch of insight here—especially if you’re a thru-hiker looking at ultras, or an ultra runner wondering what lessons the long trails can teach. Oh—and we start by breaking some actual running news: Des Linden is coming for the 50-mile world record at Tunnel Hill. So yeah, this episode really has it all. Support our sponsors Janji.com and GarageGrownGear.com Stay elite, my friends. takeaways Des Linden is making waves in ultra running. Pacing strategies are crucial for ultra marathons. Nutrition needs differ between ultra running and thru-hiking. Sleep and recovery are vital for performance. Problem-solving is key in unsupported races. The importance of adapting training for specific events. The balance between endurance and speed is essential. Chapters 00:00 Breaking News in Ultra Running 01:11 Jeff's Journey to Ultra Running 06:25 Pacing Strategies for Ultra Races 12:10 Nutrition: Fueling for Performance 20:13 Sleep, Recovery, and Problem Solving Mindset

Mar 24

On this episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I sit down with the multi-talented and wildly entertaining Chad Lubinski. Chad is one of the most well-rounded people I’ve ever met—he’s a thru-hiker, ultra runner, backcountry skier, climber, jujitsu practitioner, and full-time content creator. If you’ve been listening for a while, you may recognize him as the guy who once interviewed me—and now he’s back for his third appearance. Follow Chad on the internet: https://www.instagram.com/chadahooche_/ https://www.youtube.com/ChadLubinski⁩ Also support us by joining our patreon: www.patreon.com/freeoutside And shopping at our sponsors: garagegrowngear.com and Janji.com -We kick off the conversation with the unexpected burden of being named Chad in the age of TikTok stereotypes, but quickly dive into topics like: -Why thru-hikers should give trail running and ultra running a shot -The underrated magic of fastpacking and why it’s the life hack for outdoor lovers with limited time -Chad’s story of going from a probation officer to full-time content creator -What it really takes to build a career around your outdoor passions -Working with brands, avoiding the red flags, and learning how to say no -The art of storytelling in adventure documentaries—and why gear isn’t everything -Why filming your adventures doesn’t ruin the experience (and may actually make it better) -The best kind of suffering (and how Chad would design the ultimate sufferfest race) Whether you're curious about building a career in the outdoors, documenting your adventures, or just wondering what it takes to live an unconventional life, this one’s packed with inspiration, hard truths, and plenty of laughs. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Chad Lubinsky 03:00 The Impact of Names and Identity 05:51 Exploring Thru-Hiking and Ultra Running 09:12 Fast Packing: A New Approach to Hiking 12:01 The Transition from Hiking to Content Creation 14:59 Overcoming Adversity on the John Muir Trail 17:56 Taking the Leap: From Job Security to Content Creation 20:52 Building a Brand and Monetizing Content 23:57 Navigating Brand Partnerships and Content Creation 29:54 Navigating Brand Partnerships 39:04 The Art of Storytelling in Adventure Filmmaking 50:56 Capturing Authentic Experiences 56:57 Creating Unique Adventure Challenges Keywords: Chad Lubinsky, thru-hiking, ultra running, fast packing, content creation, outdoor adventure, John Muir Trail, brand partnerships, hiking tips, outdoor lifestyle, brand partnerships, storytelling, adventure filmmaking, influencer marketing, content creation, authenticity, YouTube, adventure challenges, outdoor experiences, video production

Mar 20

The Barkley Marathons is an ultra-endurance race that challenges participants both physically and mentally. Originating from a prison break, the race is notorious for its difficulty, secretive entry process, and unique navigation requirements. Only a handful of runners have completed the race, which is designed to push competitors to their limits. The conversation explores the race's history, structure, and the community surrounding it, highlighting the mental toughness required to participate and the inspiration it provides to runners. Support our sponsors: garagegrowngear.com and janji.com takeaways The Barkley Marathons was inspired by a prison break. It took 10 years for the first finisher to complete the race. The race is designed to be on the verge of possible. Only one person completed a fun run this year. The entry process is secretive and unique. Runners must navigate without GPS, using only a map and compass. Mental toughness is crucial for success in the race. The race fosters a strong sense of community among participants. The race's difficulty increases as more people finish it. The Barkley Marathons inspires runners to push their limits. Chapters 00:00 The Origins of the Barkley Marathons 02:51 The Challenge and Difficulty of the Race 05:47 The Unique Entry Process and Race Structure 08:50 Navigating the Course: Skills and Strategies 12:09 Mental Toughness and the Experience of Running 15:04 The Community and Culture of the Barkley Marathons 18:11 Inspiration and the Future of the Barkley Marathons keywords: Barkley Marathons, ultra running, endurance race, Laz Lake, mental toughness, navigation skills, running community, race history, outdoor challenges, extreme sports

Mar 17

I just ran in circles for 12 hours—and somehow, I had a blast. In this episode, I break down my experience at a fixed-time ultra, a 12-hour race on a looped course in Boise. Why did I do it? To test my fueling, sodium, and hydration strategies ahead of Cocodona 250. I dive into the numbers, what worked, what didn’t, and the mental lessons I took away—including how I let the course record change my race plan (oops). I also talk about my pre-race anxiety, dealing with mid-race curveballs, and how a simple gear change solved an unexpected issue. Plus, a ridiculous drive home involving a blizzard and a detour. If you’re into race strategy, mindset, or just love hearing about long, grueling efforts, this one's for you. Stay elite, my friends. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Journey 02:52 Building Confidence Through Racing 05:48 Nutrition Strategy and Preparation 09:12 Race Day Experience and Challenges 11:59 Mental Resilience and Goal Setting 14:50 Lessons Learned and Future Plans Support the show by supporting our sponsors: Garagegrowngear.com janji.com Takeaways I needed a confidence builder this year. Nutrition strategy is crucial for long races. Gut training is essential for endurance events. Mental resilience plays a key role in racing. Always have a plan and stick to it. Adjusting to race day conditions is important. Communication with race officials can be challenging. Learning from each race helps improve future performance. Support from friends and family is invaluable. Setting clear goals can enhance performance. Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Keywords ultramarathon, nutrition, race strategy, mental resilience, goal setting, endurance running, Cocodona, Jeff Garmire, running tips, training

Mar 14

On this episode of The Free Outside Podcast, I sit down with long-time friend and outdoor entrepreneur Luke Pearsall, the founder of Trail Goods Co, a new freeze-dried camping meal brand. Luke shares his winding path from working on major Hollywood productions like Lost and Entourage, to becoming an adventure guide in South America, and ultimately, to launching his own freeze dried food company. Check out Trail Goods Co at trailgoods.co ! And on Instagram: instagram.com/trailgoodscompany We dive into: The persistence it takes to break into TV and film (including hilarious celeb stories) What it’s like to guide 8-week tours through South America How hunting, hiking, and conservation are deeply connected The realities of starting a food business, from product development to retail The influencer culture, sponsorship requests, and the right way to pitch a brand Mine and Luke’s chaotic pandemic-era Instagram show, Tuesdays at 2 With plenty of laughs, insights, and industry secrets, this episode is for anyone who loves adventure, business, and wild career pivots. Support our sponsors: Janji.com and GarageGrownGear.com Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Luke Pearsall and Trail Goods Company 02:54 The Journey of Outdoor Passion and Early Experiences 06:06 Transitioning from TV to Outdoor Guiding 09:11 Life Lessons from the Film Industry 11:50 The Impact of Relationships and Networking 15:01 Guiding Adventures in South America 18:02 The Role of Food in Outdoor Experiences 21:01 Building Trail Goods Company 24:03 Navigating Challenges in Business 27:01 The Importance of Persistence and Connection 32:49 From Layoff to Launch: A Year of Transformation 41:31 Navigating the Challenges of Entrepreneurship 52:58 The Art of Freeze-Drying: Quality vs. Cost 01:03:06 Building a Brand in a Crowded Market 01:06:16 The Art of Influencer Marketing 01:09:11 The Role of AI in Influencer Marketing 01:10:07 Creative Meal Options for Outdoor Adventures 01:12:00 Celebrity Encounters and Storytelling 01:14:07 Nostalgia and the Birth of 'Tuesdays at 2' 01:17:03 Personal Style and Identity Keywords Luke Pearsall, Trail Goods Company, outdoor adventure, hiking, food, film industry, networking, entrepreneurship, guiding, South America, entrepreneurship, freeze-dried meals, outdoor industry, business launch, networking, persistence, brand building, food industry, scaling, influencer marketing, influencer marketing, AI, outdoor meals, celebrity stories, social media, Tuesdays at 2, personal branding, hiking, food, storytelling

Mar 10

In this episode of the Free Outside Show, I share a series of thrilling and humorous animal encounters from his extensive outdoor adventures. From close calls with moose and grizzly bears to unexpected interactions with goats and mice, I recount my experiences with wildlife while hiking and trail running. I also touches on human interactions in the wild and share rapid-fire stories of various animal encounters, culminating in his recent trail work experience. This episode captures the essence of outdoor adventure and the unpredictability of nature. Support us by shopping at Janji.com and GarageGrownGear.com Takeaways Jeff has had numerous animal encounters while hiking. Moose can be surprisingly aggressive when startled. Grizzly bears are intimidating but can be managed with bear spray. Goats are territorial and can act aggressively over resources. Mice can invade your space if you're not careful with food storage. Human interactions in the wild can be unpredictable and alarming. Animals like coyotes can be intimidating when they surround your camp. Unexpected wildlife encounters can lead to humorous stories. Trail work is a rewarding way to give back to the outdoor community. Every outdoor adventure comes with its own set of challenges and surprises. Sound Bites "I had to run from a moose." "I just got charged by a grizzly." "Goats are surprisingly territorial." "I woke up to a mouse in my tent." "Coyotes circled my tent at night." "I carried a heavy cable for trail work." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Animal Encounters 02:53 Moose Encounters: A Close Call 06:11 Grizzly Bear Stories: Facing Fear 09:09 Goat Encounters: Unexpected Territoriality 12:00 Mice and Other Small Creatures 14:51 Human Interactions in the Wild 18:08 Rapid Fire Animal Encounters 21:02 Trail Work and Community Engagement Keywords animal encounters, hiking stories, outdoor adventures, wildlife experiences, grizzly bears, moose, goats, trail running, nature, Jeff Garmire

Mar 7

In this episode, I break down my complete training approach for the Cocodona 250, one of the toughest ultramarathons out there. I dive into my background in trail running, FKTs, and endurance racing, sharing how I structure my training using a polarized model to maximize performance and longevity. I outline my weekly training schedule, how I manage injuries and recovery, and the nutrition and fueling strategies that keep me going strong in multi-day races. I also discuss the importance of heart rate monitoring and how I train my mindset for the grueling 250-mile challenge. Whether you're training for your first ultra or looking to refine your strategy for an epic endurance race, this episode is packed with insights to help you push your limits on the trail. Support us by shopping at Janji.com and GarageGrownGear.com and telling them I sent you Follow Freeoutside.substack.com Instagram.com/freeoutsidepodcast Patreon.com/Freeoutside Takeaways Cocodona 250 is a 250-mile race that requires extensive training. A polarized training model is effective for endurance athletes. Injury management is crucial for long-distance training. Nutrition and fueling strategies can significantly impact performance. Heart rate monitoring helps in understanding training intensity. Mental strategies are important for overcoming challenges during races. Specific race preparation includes practicing with gear and nutrition. Flexibility in training schedules can aid recovery and performance. Building a strong base is essential for ultramarathon success. Community support and social running can enhance the training experience. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Personal Background 02:49 Training Philosophy and Approach 06:14 Polarized Training Model 09:05 Weekly Training Schedule 11:54 Injury Management and Recovery 15:13 Nutrition and Fueling Strategies 18:05 Heart Rate Monitoring and Training Zones 20:54 Specific Race Preparation 23:49 Mindset and Mental Strategies 26:46 Conclusion and Future Plans Keywords Cocodona 250, ultramarathon training, polarized training, nutrition, heart rate monitoring, injury recovery, mental strategies, running schedule, endurance racing, athlete mindset

Mar 3

This episode is pure storytelling chaos. I sat down with Joe "Stringbean" McConaughy, and we covered everything from FKTs gone wrong to ultra running hallucinations and how his dog literally ate his golden ticket. We relive our worst gear failures, talk about what it really takes to push through a 200-miler, and debate whether burping is the key to ultra success (yes, seriously). Joe shares his journey from setting the Pacific Crest Trail record to coaching and racing at the highest level, and we swap war stories about the Arizona Trail, John Muir Trail, and why we both seem to choose the absolute worst conditions for FKTs. If you’re into absurd ultra running tales, bad decisions, and lessons learned the hard way, this one’s for you. This episode is brought to you by: https://www.garagegrowngear.com/ https://janji.com/ So tell them I sent you! Follow Joe online: https://www.instagram.com/thestring.bean/ And my sister's knitting account: https://www.instagram.com/knitted.with.grace/ Takeaways Joe is not a vegan athlete, despite misconceptions. He emphasizes the importance of a well-rounded diet. His first FKT experience was filled with overconfidence. Trusting technology can lead to unexpected challenges. Hallucinations can occur during extreme endurance events. Mental challenges are as significant as physical ones. The John Muir Trail inspired Joe to pursue FKTs. Caffeine and sleep management are crucial for performance. Hallucinations can lead to dangerous situations. The psychological aspect of running is multifaceted. Survival situations often involve extreme conditions and mental challenges. Gear failures can significantly impact performance in ultra running. It's important to invest in reliable gear for long-distance events. Coaching requires continuous learning and adaptation to athletes' needs. Sleep strategies are crucial for endurance races, but they vary by individual. Being selfish in races can enhance performance and personal experience. Self-supported racing fosters independence and self-reliance. The journey into coaching can be both rewarding and challenging. Understanding one's body and its responses is key to successful racing. The golden ticket symbolizes achievement but comes with its own challenges. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Veganism and Misconceptions 03:05 First FKT Experiences and Overcoming Fears 05:54 Challenges on the Arizona Trail 08:58 The John Muir Trail: Inspiration and Aspirations 11:55 Experiences on Mount Whitney 14:56 Hallucinations and Mental Challenges in Ultra Running 18:10 The Psychological Aspects of Endurance Running 23:49 Survival and Extreme Conditions 25:37 Lessons from Gear Failures 28:32 The Burping Dilemma 31:57 The Journey into Coaching 36:27 Navigating Sleep Strategies 39:30 The Importance of Selfishness in Racing 43:25 Golden Ticket Tales Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Feb 28

I’ve spent years hiking, running, and living on public lands. I’ve slept on BLM land when I didn’t have a home, hiked trails maintained by crews that just got laid off, and even worked for the federal government myself. So when I see massive funding cuts to the National Park Service, the BLM, and the U.S. Forest Service, I'm worried what’s at stake—and it’s not just a few overgrown trails. These cuts mean fewer rangers, fewer fire crews, fewer trail maintenance teams, and fewer resources to keep the places we love open and accessible. Roads to trailheads won’t be graded. Bridges will rot. Outhouses will be locked. When trails go too long without maintenance, they don’t just get rough—they disappear. And it’s not just the land that’s being affected. The people who dedicate their lives to public service, often choosing passion over a bigger paycheck, are being thrown out of work. Trail crews—many of which give young people a foot in the door to outdoor careers—are being gutted. The people who protect and preserve these spaces are being fired while the richest man in the world brags about playing with a chainsaw. If you care about trails, outdoor spaces, or even just the ability to drive to a trailhead without destroying your car, now’s the time to pay attention. You don’t have to be an activist, but you should at least know what’s happening to the land that makes trail running, hiking, and adventuring possible. Because if we don’t fight to keep these places funded and protected, we’re going to wake up one day and realize they’re gone. We are supported by Janji.com and GarageGrownGear.com Chapters: 00:00 The State of Public Lands and Job Cuts 09:53 Community Engagement and Local Initiatives 20:09 Trail Maintenance and Environmental Impact 25:49 Lighthearted Moments and Listener Questions

Feb 24

I talk with Helen Mino Faulkner, a professional trail runner who recently placed fourth at the Tarwera 100k. We discuss her decision to turn down a golden ticket to Western States 100, her experiences racing in New Zealand, and the challenges of training through winter in Truckee. Helen shares her journey back to running after a hiatus, the importance of excitement in racing, and how living in a seasonal environment contributes to success. We also explore her path to becoming a professional athlete, the role of yoga, and the differences she has experienced racing in Europe compared to the U.S. In this conversation, Helen Mino Faukner and I discuss various aspects of trail running, including the vibrant community in Europe, the realities of ultra running, and the challenges of nutrition during races. We also explore Helen's aspirations for future races, her experiences with the Tahoe to Yosemite route, and her approach to creating engaging content for her YouTube channel. The conversation highlights the excitement and challenges of the trail running lifestyle, as well as the importance of community support and personal goals. Follow Helen on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/helenredcloud/ Follow Helen on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/ @helenminofaukner Takeaways Helen turned down the golden ticket after careful consideration. She enjoys racing in diverse environments, like New Zealand. Training in winter involves cross-country skiing and lower mileage. Excitement and positivity are key to her racing mindset Helen’s journey back to running was inspired by friends and community. Living in Truckee allows for seasonal variety in training. She values the community found in both running and yoga Helen’s path to professional running was unexpected but fulfilling. Yoga helps her maintain balance and prevent injuries. Racing in Europe offers a different experience with well-maintained trails. There's a vibrant trail running community in Europe. Aid stations often lack the variety of food expected. Ultra running is more about speed than socializing at aid stations. Planning for long runs requires careful consideration of conditions. Helen's dream of running from Tahoe to Yosemite remains on her list. Creating YouTube content involves spontaneity and personal experiences. The importance of community support in trail running is evident. Nutrition strategies in ultra running can be quite unique. Future goals include various challenging trails and races. Helen enjoys the thrill of competitive races close to home. Chapters 00:00 Turning Down the Golden Ticket 03:03 Racing in New Zealand 06:00 Training Through Winter 09:14 The Importance of Excitement in Racing 12:09 The Journey Back to Running 14:55 Living in Truckee: The Value of Seasons 17:54 Becoming a Professional Athlete 20:55 The Role of Yoga in Running 23:54 The Differences in Racing in Europe 29:40 Trail Running Community in Europe 31:34 The Reality of Ultra Running 32:52 Aid Stations and Nutrition in Races 34:11 Dreams and Aspirations in Trail Running 37:53 Planning the Tahoe to Yosemite Route 41:56 Future Trail Running Goals and Aspirations 43:40 Creating Engaging YouTube Content 49:39 Upcoming Races and Personal Goals Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside

Feb 21

In this episode of The Free Outside Podcast, I chat with thru-hiker and content creator Stella Hikes, who is preparing for one of the biggest challenges in long-distance hiking—the Calendar Year Triple Crown. Stella shares her hiking background, the inspiration behind attempting this ambitious feat, and the intense planning process required to hike the Appalachian Trail (AT), Pacific Crest Trail (PCT), and Continental Divide Trail (CDT) in a single year. We dive into her experience on the long trails, her approach to efficiency and nutrition, her strategy for tackling snow and weather challenges, and the importance of storytelling and content creation on the trail. I also shares insights from my own Calendar Year Triple Crown in 2016, including snow struggles, gear choices, and the evolution of thru-hiking. 🎙️ Topics Covered: Stella’s thru-hiking journey (PCT, AT, CDT sections) Choosing a trail name and its evolution The emotional and physical challenges of trail work How she discovered thru-hiking and her early struggles The moment she committed to the Calendar Year Triple Crown Jeff’s experience doing the Calendar Year Triple Crown in 2016 Planning logistics, food strategy, gear selection The impact of climate change on long trails The challenges and rewards of vlogging a long thru-hike 📍 Follow Stella: YouTube & Instagram: @StellaHikes Podcast Chapters: ⏱️ 00:00 – Intro to the Episode & Guest: Stella ⏱️ 00:26 – Stella’s Thru-Hiking Resume (PCT, AT, CDT sections) ⏱️ 01:17 – Trail Names & Their Stories ⏱️ 04:04 – Stella’s First Backpacking Trips & Discovering Thru-Hiking ⏱️ 08:16 – The Hardest Part of Trail Work & Gaining Confidence ⏱️ 11:28 – From Failed AT Sections to a Full PCT Thru-Hike ⏱️ 13:27 – Committing to the Calendar Year Triple Crown ⏱️ 17:44 – Jeff’s 2016 Calendar Year Triple Crown Experience ⏱️ 19:51 – The Key to Efficiency: Town Stops, Planning & Adaptability ⏱️ 25:09 – Stella’s Trail Plan & Avoiding Deep Snow ⏱️ 28:12 – The Importance of Efficiency in Gear & Resupply ⏱️ 36:05 – Nutrition Strategy: Ditching Sugar & Prioritizing Protein ⏱️ 41:32 – Jeff & Stella Discuss the Pros & Cons of Sugar on Trail ⏱️ 43:29 – The Art of Vlogging & Bringing the Audience Along ⏱️ 49:11 – How Stella Creates & Edits Content on Trail ⏱️ 55:26 – Stella’s Gear Breakdown (Pack, Tent, Sleep System) ⏱️ 1:01:44 – The Evolution of Thru-Hiking & Climate Change’s Impact ⏱️ 1:08:55 – Final Thoughts & Where to Follow Stella Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com

Feb 17

On this episode of the Free Outside Podcast , we welcome Will Murray , a math teacher, coach, and elite runner who recently punched his ticket to Western States 100 . Will shares his unique journey from growing up in Georgia as a baseball player to rediscovering running after college, transitioning from cycling to trail racing, and ultimately shocking the ultra world with a Golden Ticket win at Black Canyon 100K . Our Black Canyon Coverage : https://youtu.be/SO-6YkxWczM?si=IXEDglz96vCwI6p7 Support me by shopping at Janji.com and Garage Grown Gear Topics:🏃‍♂️ Will’s path to teaching and endurance sports 🚲 How cycling shaped his ultra-running success 🎓 Balancing coaching, dorm duty, and training at a boarding school 🏔️ His Silver Rush 50 debut—placing second in his first ultra 🔥 How he prepped for Black Canyon 100K and handled the Arizona heat 🧠 The mental strategies and self-talk routines that powered his breakthrough 🏆 What it felt like to earn a Golden Ticket and his plans for Western States 100 Will’s story is a testament to balancing a passion for running with a full-time career. Chapters: 00:00 – Intro: Meet Will Murray Jeff introduces Will Murray—math teacher, coach, 2:32 marathoner, and now a Golden Ticket winner to Western States 100 . 02:00 – Growing Up: From Baseball to Running Will shares his early years in Georgia, playing baseball and discovering running in high school. 04:30 – A Roundabout Path to Teaching How Will went from working at a bike shop and guiding cycling tours in France to studying math and eventually becoming a high school teacher in New Jersey. 07:00 – Finding His Way Back to Running After college, Will rediscovered endurance sports through bikepacking but shifted to running due to time constraints. 09:30 – Jumping Into Ultras: Silver Rush 50 Why he picked Leadville’s Silver Rush 50 as his first ultra—and how he shocked the field by finishing second . 12:30 – Competing at Chuckanut 50K Testing himself against elite competition like Matt Daniels, Francesco Pupi, and Zach Perrin , and learning from a tough day. 14:45 – Leadville 100: First 100-Miler Experience The highs and lows of Leadville, racing in the mountains, and the emotional finish under the night sky . 17:00 – Dreaming of Western States How Leadville fueled his desire to chase a Golden Ticket , and the logistics of making it happen with a full-time teaching job. 20:00 – Training for Black Canyon: The "Artistic" Approach Will's unique training philosophy —balancing structured workouts with an intuitive approach. 23:30 – Preparing for the Heat: Ice Sleeves & Indoor Treadmill Runs Simulating Arizona’s heat while training in New Jersey, and the cooling strategies that worked. 25:00 – Race Day at Black Canyon: Going All In How he ran with the front pack , handled key decision points, and executed his mental strategy . 27:45 – The Big Move: Passing Eli Hemming The moment he secured his Golden Ticket , the decision to push instead of fade , and staying locked in. 29:15 – Crossing the Finish Line: Reality Sets In The shock and joy of achieving his dream race entry, plus the practical side of getting a Golden Ticket home . 31:00 – The Aftermath: Teaching, Training, and What’s Next Returning to school as a Western States athlete , student reactions, and how he’ll prepare for June. 34:00 – Racing Without Pacers & Crew Strategy How his sister became an impromptu crew chief , and the last-minute aid station pit crew he didn’t expect. 36:30 – Mindset Mastery: The Key to Ultra Success Breaking down "Decision Time" , self-talk strategies, and how he stays mentally strong in long races. 41:00 – Looking Ahead to Western States Goals for June , training adjustments, and balancing it all while still teaching. 44:00 – Final Thoughts & Advice for Non-Pro Athletes Why you don’t need to be a full-time athlete to compete at the highest level in ultrarunning. 46:00 – Outro: The Journey Continues Will reflects on what’s next and his excitement for Western States 100 .

Feb 14

I sit down with Kelly Newlon—runner, chef, agent, Nuggets fan, and all-around community builder. Kelly shares the journey of founding RAD (Real Athlete Diets), a business that blends her love for trail running and cooking, and how she went from feeding friends training for races to fueling elite athletes on FKTs and multi-day expeditions. We dive into what it takes to support endurance athletes, the challenges of meal planning for unpredictable cravings, and her work as an agent helping athletes navigate sponsorships and contracts. Kelly also shares insights into the outdoor industry, the growth of trail running, and the lessons she's learned from working with both brands and athletes. Find Kelly on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/radboulder/ If you're curious about the intersection of performance, fueling, and the business of professional trail running, this episode is for you! Support us by checking out Janji.com and telling them we sent you Takeaways Kelly Newlon combines her passions for cooking and running. The idea for Rad, Real Athlete Diets came from a personal need. Entrepreneurship requires saying yes to many opportunities at first. Nutrition plays a crucial role in supporting FKTs and athletes. Flexibility and adaptability are key in meal planning for athletes. Building relationships with athletes and brands is essential. Kelly emphasizes the importance of emotional growth for young athletes. She prefers a retainer system over a percentage-based payment model. Understanding both athlete and brand perspectives is vital in representation. Kelly aims to empower athletes to manage their own careers. Brands prioritize community, marketing, and performance. Understanding a brand's ethos is crucial for athletes. Performance metrics directly influence sales. Athletes should highlight their sponsors in their content. The trail running community is growing rapidly. New brands are emerging, creating competition. Live streaming is changing the landscape of races. Athletes need to maintain a day job for stability. The sport allows for various levels of participation. Respecting the history of the sport is essential. Chapters 00:00 Finding Community and Passion 03:09 The Birth of Rad, Real Athlete Diets 05:57 Navigating the Challenges of Entrepreneurship 08:56 Supporting FKTs: The Role of Nutrition 12:02 The Chef's Approach to Athlete Support 15:13 The Transition to Athlete Representation 18:00 Navigating Relationships in Athlete Management 33:38 Understanding Brand Values in Sports Sponsorship 42:51 The Growth and Evolution of Trail Running 50:47 Challenges and Opportunities in the Trail Running Industry 01:00:39 The Realities of Being a Professional Athlete

Feb 10

In this solo episode of The Free Outside Show, I’m answering some of the biggest running questions I’ve been getting lately—especially around heat training, endurance nutrition, speed work, Ketones, Sodium Bicarbonate, and recovery. I break down the best strategies for sauna sessions, heat adaptation, and passive heat training, plus how to avoid overdoing it. subscribe to the podcast, patreon, and substack! I also dive into race-day and ultra running nutrition, covering carbs, hydration, and gut training so you can perform your best without bonking. And of course, I tackle the big question of speed work—how often should you do it, why social media makes it seem like everyone is always running fast, and how to actually train smarter (not just harder). What I Cover in This Episode: 🔥 Heat training 101 – Sauna vs. passive heat, how long to stay in, and when to back off 🥤 Can you drink water in the sauna? (Yes, and here’s why it won’t ruin your adaptation) ⚡ Ketones: Are they worth the hype? (And why I’m still trying to find out) 🍫 Ultra running nutrition – The 5 food groups you need to balance fueling 🏃‍♂️ Should you do more speed work? (And why the internet is probably lying to you) 🧊 Cold plunges – When they help, when they hurt 🛑 Why bad workouts don’t mean bad fitness – RPE, effort-based training, and confidence 👟 Winter running gear tips – Keeping your legs warm to avoid injury This episode is packed with practical training advice for trail runners, ultrarunners, and endurance athletes. Whether you're training for a 100-miler, marathon, or your next big FKT, this will help you train smarter, fuel better, and avoid burnout. If you found this episode helpful, please leave a 5-star review, subscribe on YouTube, and share it with a friend! 📩 Got a running question? Drop it in the comments or email me! 📺 Subscribe on YouTube for more ultra running and FKT content! 📖 Check out my Substack for weekly training tips & insights! Sound Bites "RPE helps gauge effort in training." "Trust your training plan and stick to it." "Life stress affects training performance." "A 10-minute run is better than no run." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Heat Training 04:13 Exploring Ketones and Recovery 08:02 Nutrition Strategies for Endurance Athletes 11:53 Understanding Perceived Exertion in Training 15:58 The Importance of Cross Training 20:09 Managing Life Stress and Training Adaptations 22:03 Final Thoughts and Gear Recommendations Keywords heat training, ketones, nutrition, perceived exertion, cross training, life stress, endurance athletes, rate of perceived exertion, how to get faster, sodium bicarb

Feb 5

We're back with the most requested guest of the Free Outside Podcast—except it's just me requesting him. For his third appearance, Derrick Lytle joins the show to break down the Black Canyon 100K with the most in-depth, possibly inaccurate, but definitely entertaining preview out there. We discuss the dreamers and receivers of golden tickets, the state of ultra running rivalries (hint: we just ignited one), and why Hayden Hawks could still win this race from New Zealand. We also cover influencer participation (or lack thereof), how to look good for the live stream, and public domain excuses you can use if your race goes sideways. Other highlights include: 🔹 The five archetypes of Black Canyon runners 🔹 A deep dive into the best names on the entrants list 🔹 Wild predictions, race-day advice, and a discussion on whether Stringbean is actually vegan 🔹 Why Spring Energy should pivot to baby food and how the Jeffreys hold more influence than Ultra Runner of the Year If you were looking for a serious preview, you might be in the wrong place. But if you want satire, questionable facts, and maybe even the best Black Canyon coverage out there—we’ve got you covered. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Black Canyon Preview 02:59 Creating Unique Content at Black Canyon 05:56 Trail Running Rivalries and Drama 09:01 The Five Types of Runners 12:13 Golden Ticket Dreamers and Receivers 14:58 Influencers in Trail Running 18:03 The State of the Economy and Running Events 23:56 Predictions and Favorites for Upcoming Races 30:00 The Landscape of Ultra Running and Influencers 35:58 Advice for Runners: Nutrition and Strategy 43:03 Fitness Bravado: Intimidation Tactics at the Start Line 44:17 Analyzing Race Strategies and Performance 45:48 The Virtual Running Experience 46:52 Creative Excuses for Race Performance 51:34 The Importance of Presentation in Racing 56:29 Predictions and Insights for Upcoming Races 01:05:02 The Marketing Team for Hayden Hawks 01:06:17 Predictions for Hayden's Success 01:07:14 Women’s Ultra Running Contenders 01:08:58 Intriguing Stories in Ultra Running 01:11:01 Unique Names in Ultra Running 01:16:00 Celebrity Runners and Their Impact 01:20:41 Final Predictions and Closing Thoughts keywords: Black Canyon 100k, trail running, FKT, content creation, running rivalries, golden ticket, influencers, ultra running, race preview, running community, ultra running, race predictions, nutrition advice, fitness strategies, influencer culture, running, race strategies, virtual running, race performance, excuses, race predictions, ultra running, athlete insights, race presentation, Hayden Hawks, Hayden Hawks, ultra running, predictions, women's running, unique names, celebrity runners, race predictions

Feb 3

On today’s episode of the Free Outside Show, we’re joined by Grant Barnette—a thru-hiker turned Pro ultrarunner who has tackled some of the toughest races in the world. Grant has hiked the Appalachian Trail and Pacific Crest Trail, holds the DC Peaks 50 course record, placed 2nd at Grindstone 100, 5th at Speedgoat 50K, and was the third American at CCC at UTMB. Most recently, he signed a pro contract with Craft. Follow Grant online: https://www.instagram.com/runwithgrant/ We dive into how he transitioned from carrying a heavy pack on the PCT to discovering Angeles Crest 100 in middle of a thru-hike, his nomadic lifestyle living out of his truck while chasing FKTs, and his journey through ski mountaineering and backcountry adventures in Utah. He shares his take on training with a job, fueling strategies, sponsorships, and the challenges of race selection for the US Trail Team. Plus, we discuss the controversial selection process for the World Trail Running Championships, how social media and live-streaming influence race prestige, and what it’s like lining up next to Jim Walmsley at UTMB. Takeaways Grant Barnett has a rich background in trail running and ultra events. The transition from through-hiking to competitive running can be inspired by encounters on the trail. Living in a truck and pursuing a passion for running can lead to unexpected opportunities. Ski mountaineering offers a unique training method for ultra running. The importance of mentorship in outdoor sports is highlighted through Grant's relationship with Joey Campanelli. Media coverage significantly influences race popularity and athlete opportunities. Qualifying races for championships may not always reflect true mountain running skills. The culture of ski resorts can mirror the lifestyle of through-hikers. Nutrition and hydration strategies change drastically in winter sports. Community support and shared experiences are vital in the outdoor sports world. Wasatch 100 is a historic race but lacks hype. Experiencing a DNF can be deeply embarrassing. Bouncing back from a DNF is crucial for growth. The bond between twin athletes can be unique and supportive. Modern running science is complex and ever-evolving. Finding what works for your body is essential in fueling. Crew support can significantly impact race performance. The emotional toll of racing can be challenging to navigate. The evolution of race formats keeps the sport dynamic. Shoes and gear have advanced significantly in recent years. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Grant Barnett and His Achievements 02:55 The Journey to Trail Running 06:04 Life Changes and New Beginnings in Salt Lake City 09:05 Trail Names and Film Appearances 12:05 Ski Mountaineering and Training Techniques 15:02 World Championship Disappointments and Race Qualifiers 26:09 The Legacy of Wasatch 100 29:11 The Evolution of Golden Ticket Races 32:57 The Emotional Toll of DNF 35:31 Bouncing Back: Success at DC Peaks 37:20 The Unique Bond of Twin Athletes 39:11 Navigating Modern Running Science 44:17 The Importance of Crew Support Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside

Jan 31

🔥 Jamil Coury vs. Kevin Russ – The Battle for Local Legend! 🔥 In this episode, I catch up with Jamil Coury and Kevin Russ—while they’re literally running back and forth on a 0.22-mile Chipotle Strava segment in Tempe, Arizona! These two endurance athletes have taken on the wildest challenge in sports right now: logging the most segments in January to win free Chipotle for a year. 🏆🌯 Jamil, the founder of Aravaipa Running, and Kevin, a thru-hiker, ultra-endurance athlete, and videographer, are putting in insane mileage—think 70-mile days on the same stretch of pavement—as they battle for the title. I interviewed them remotely while they were mid-run, giving you a raw, live look into their mental and physical grind. 🚀 What’s in this episode? ✔️ The Chipotle Local Legend challenge explained ✔️ Jamil’s daily grind of running + working + parenting ✔️ Kevin’s crazy 261-mile week and strategy to stay ahead ✔️ The friendly but fierce rivalry between these two ultra competitors ✔️ Jamil’s truck getting towed (sacrifices must be made!) ✔️ Their content battle—who’s winning the YouTube war? ✔️ Strategies for the final day and whether a tie is possible 📲 Follow Jamil & Kevin’s journey: Jamil Coury: @runsteepgethigh Kevin Russ: https://www.instagram.com/kevinruss/ 💥 Support the Show! Join me on Patreon for exclusive content: patreon.com/freeoutside Check out my YouTube for quick-hitter training & FKT updates: @FreeOutside 🛒 Shoutout to Janji! Use Janji Vortex Gloves and beanies to survive winter running Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Chapters 00:00 The Chipotle Challenge Begins 12:48 Interview with Jamil Curry 25:23 Insights from Kevin Russ keywords: Chipotle challenge, running rivalry, Jamil Coury, Kevin Russ, ultra running, local legend, Strava, endurance sports, competition, content creation

Jan 27

I’m joined by Ken Seals, the creator of The Ultra Minute on Substack, for an exciting and wide-ranging episode of the podcast! Fun fact: a hurricane is what led Ken to running. We dive into the trends we hope to see emerge in 2025, bold predictions for the future of ultrarunning, and some of the key happenings during the sport’s so-called “off season.” Find the Ultra Minute on Substack: https://ultraminute.substack.com/ This conversation covers a little bit of everything: the rise of longer races like Cocodona and their growing appeal, what we can expect at Western States this year (and why it might be one of the most exciting editions yet), and the evolution of ultrarunning media. Ken also shares insights into his own journey, from thru-hiking the Appalachian Trail to starting The Ultra Minute. We talk about the impact of sustainability and technology on gear, how science and data are changing the way athletes train and recover, and why platforms like Substack and YouTube are becoming essential tools for athletes to tell their stories and connect with fans. Takeaways Ken Seals transitioned from mountain biking to ultra running after losing his bike in a hurricane. The Ultra Minute newsletter was created to provide concise updates on ultra running for busy fans. Substack is gaining popularity among ultra runners as a platform for storytelling and community engagement. David Roach's rise in the ultra running scene is creating a compelling narrative for the sport. The importance of unbiased reporting in sports journalism is emphasized in the context of ultra running. Athletes are beginning to use Substack to share their personal journeys and connect with fans. Nutrition and recovery are becoming increasingly important topics in ultra running performance. The conversation highlights the potential for science to improve training and recovery in ultra running. The dynamics of team structures in ultra running differ significantly from cycling, impacting athlete support. The discussion suggests that the future of ultra running may involve more athlete-driven content and storytelling. Personal stories in ultra running can inspire others to share their journeys. Content creation around races can elevate the sport's visibility. Emerging competitors bring fresh narratives to the ultra running scene. Longer distances are gaining popularity and changing the competitive landscape. Athletes are increasingly using their platforms for advocacy and social issues. The dynamics of competition are shifting with new athletes entering the field. The storytelling aspect of races can enhance viewer engagement. Sustainability and product longevity are becoming key focuses for brands. The rise of AI and tailored training plans may change how athletes prepare. The potential for betting on ultra running could reshape the sport's audience. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Ultra Running and Substack 09:14 The Rise of Substack in Ultra Running 36:14 David Roach vs. The World: A New Rivalry in Ultra Running 39:52 The Impact of Personal Stories in Ultra Running 43:40 The Future of Content Creation in Ultra Running 47:40 Emerging Competitors and Storylines in Ultra Running 53:35 The Rise of Longer Distances in Ultra Running 57:17 Hot Takes and Predictions for the Upcoming Season keywords : ultrarunning, Substack, David Roach, trends 2025, ultra running news, athlete stories, heat training, nutrition, supplements, community, Ultra Running, Western States, David Roach, Content Creation, Emerging Competitors, Long Distance Running, Predictions, Athlete Stories, Trail Running, Race Coverage

Jan 24

In this episode, I sit down with Brooke Bjorge, the owner of Grit Sports Nutrition and an athlete herself, to dive into the critical role of sodium in endurance sports. We cover everything from the dangers of hyponatremia and how to avoid cramping in an ultramarathon, to the differences between sodium citrate and sodium chloride and why it matters for performance. Brooke also shares insights on sweat testing, building personalized hydration plans, and navigating the high-carb fueling trends in endurance racing. Whether you're training for a thru-hike, tackling a 100-miler, or just want to optimize your performance, this conversation is packed with practical tips and science-backed strategies. Follow Brooke: https://www.gritsportsnutrition.com/ takeaways Sodium is crucial for muscle contraction and cognitive function. Hyponatremia is more common than hypernatremia among athletes. Sodium citrate is better absorbed than sodium chloride. Athletes should aim to replace 60-90% of sodium losses during events. Sweat rate testing is essential for developing hydration protocols. Sodium intake can be adjusted based on environmental conditions. Recovery nutrition should include protein, carbs, and fats. Weight loss goals should not compromise athletic performance. Carbohydrate intake should be individualized based on athlete size and needs. Post-exercise hydration is critical for recovery. Sound Bites "Most people run the risk of consuming too little." "Sodium is in charge of so many essential functions." "Sodium citrate is much better absorbed by the body." "You want to replace 60 to 90% of sodium losses." "You don't want to go overboard either." "You can only right the ship to a certain extent." "Not everybody needs more carbs." "Recovery fueling and hydration is huge." Chapters 00:00 The Importance of Sodium in Athletics 03:08 Types of Sodium and Their Absorption 06:05 Sweat Rate and Sodium Replacement 09:13 Developing a Hydration Protocol 12:06 Methods of Sodium Ingestion 15:01 Addressing Sodium Deficiency During Events 17:52 Carbohydrate Intake and Performance 21:00 Navigating Weight Loss and Performance 23:49 Post-Run Recovery Strategies keywords: sodium, sports nutrition, endurance athletes, hydration, sweat rate, sodium replacement, electrolyte balance, carbohydrate intake, weight loss, recovery

Jan 20

In this episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I sit down with Matthew Shepard—better known as Shep—to talk all things trail running, ultra-endurance racing, and his incredible journey in the outdoors. From growing up wandering the wilderness with a rifle in hand to becoming a standout competitor in backyard ultras and the Director of Field Operations at Sinister Sports, Shep’s story is nothing short of inspiring. Follow Shep online: https://www.instagram.com/go_shep/ We dive into the unique dynamics of backyard ultras, Shep’s strategies for enduring multi-day races, and some of his wildest encounters in the Canadian Rockies—like finding a fresh moose carcass and rerouting trails to avoid bears. He shares how he balances racing with his role at Sinister Sports, including the behind-the-scenes work of creating epic 200-mile races. We also discuss the mindset it takes to embrace failure, the joy of pushing boundaries, and how challenges like these make life richer. Shep talks about his plans for the Wild Horse 200 in Wales, while I reflect on my adventures, including the Pacific Northwest Trail and Great Western Loop. takeaways -Shep has been passionate about the outdoors since childhood. -Wildlife encounters can be both fascinating and challenging during races. -The backyard ultra format allows for a unique pacing strategy. -Camaraderie among racers is crucial in long-distance events. -Mental challenges are a significant aspect of racing. -Visualization techniques can enhance performance in races. -Failure is an essential part of the racing experience. -Crew support is vital for success in long-distance events. -Shep emphasizes the importance of adaptability during races. -The trail running community is growing rapidly, with exciting new events Chapters 00:00 The Roots of a Trail Runner 14:00 Wildlife Encounters in the Outdoors 17:04 The Journey into Trail Racing 20:14 Understanding the Backyard Format 23:01 World Team Championship Explained 26:06 Camaraderie in Competition 29:00 Mental Challenges and Strategies 32:00 The Social Aspect of Racing 35:08 Navigating the Last Two 37:56 Hallucinations and Sleep Deprivation 41:02 Crew Dynamics and Support 44:58 The Struggle of Pushing Limits 50:29 Mindset and Visualization in Racing 53:01 Exploring Backyard Races 53:17 Joining Sinister Sports 56:09 Planning New Races and Routes 01:00:34 Challenges of Organizing 200-Mile Races 01:01:39 Future Plans and Upcoming Races 01:03:11 Life in Extreme Cold 01:05:07 Reflections on Adventure and Accomplishment keywords: trail running, backyard ultra, wildlife encounters, mental challenges, camaraderie, Sinister Sports, long-distance racing, Shep, World Team Championship, racing strategies

Jan 17

In this episode of the Free Outside podcast, I’m joined by Pete Deneen, a climate scientist, award-winning writer, and the Chief Executive of the Keep Sespe Wild Foundation. Together, we dive into the wildfires that have devastated California, including the recent LA firestorm, one of the most costly and destructive disasters in U.S. history. Find Keep Sespe Wild online Pete brings his deep knowledge of climate science and his personal experience living in the fire-prone Sespe wilderness to the conversation. We break down what makes these fires so intense, the factors fueling them, and the role of climate change in doubling extreme fire weather days. From the science behind Santa Ana winds to the surprising impacts of fire retardants like Foscheck, this episode is packed with insights you won’t find in headlines. Find Pete Deneen online We also explore the balance between living with fire and managing it, and the importance of community, conservation, and education in protecting our wildlands. Whether you’re an outdoor enthusiast, a trail runner, or just curious about the forces shaping our environment, this conversation will leave you thinking differently about fire, nature, and how we live in these landscapes. Support us at Janji.com and tell them we sent you takeaways -California wildfires are among the most destructive in U.S. history. -The interplay of wet and dry years significantly affects fire risks. -Santa Ana winds can exacerbate wildfire conditions. -Climate change has increased the frequency of fire weather days. -Defensible space around homes is crucial for fire survival. -Foscheck is a useful tool in firefighting but has environmental impacts. -Post-fire recovery can lead to ecological resilience in certain areas. -Community engagement is vital for effective fire management. -Misconceptions about wildfires often oversimplify complex issues. -Nonprofits play a key role in environmental education and stewardship. Sound Bites "These areas have evolved to burn." "Foscheck is an effective tool." "We have to coexist with fire." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Wildfires in California 04:57 Current Situation of the Fires 07:32 Factors Contributing to Fire Risk 12:34 Understanding Santa Ana Winds 18:02 Fire Spread and Containment Challenges 21:32 Impact of Firefighting Techniques 25:52 Post-Fire Recovery and Environmental Impact 31:02 Future Mitigation and Prevention Strategies 32:46 Coexisting with Nature: A Journey with Native Plants 32:51 Hardening Communities Against Wildfires 33:27 Understanding Historical Fire Regimes 38:21 The Era of Fire Suppression and Its Consequences 39:53 Predictive Tools for Fire Awareness 43:52 Debunking Misconceptions About Wildfires 50:32 The Role of Nonprofits in Conservation and Education keywords: California wildfires, climate change, Santa Ana winds, fire management, environmental impact, community engagement, wildfire recovery, firefighting techniques, ecological resilience, wildfire misconceptions

Jan 13

In this solo episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I’m sharing all about my recent trip to Big Bend National Park—a week packed with hiking, backpacking, and adventure. From spotting javelinas to scrambling up Emory Peak at sunset, I dive into how this trip fits into my training for FKTs and ultra races like the Cocodona 250 and Big Horn 100. patreon.com/freeoutside I also break down my plans for 2025, including a self-supported southbound Appalachian Trail FKT attempt and exciting interviews I’ve lined up with top athletes, calendar year Triple Crowners, and more. Along the way, I talk gear tips, training insights, and even some funny moments about ghost towns, dehydrated meals, and my love for rocks. 🌟 Highlights: Why Big Bend is the perfect off-the-grid training ground Power hiking and training for long ultras My upcoming race plans: Cocodona 250, Big Horn 100, and "secret races" How You Can Support the Podcast: Subscribe, rate, and review on Apple and Spotify Check out my new Substack for weekly updates: www.FreeOutside.Substack.com I’ve got lots of exciting adventures coming up, so stick around for weekly updates and interviews. Thanks for listening, and stay elite, my friends! Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Ultra Running and Upcoming Races 05:53 The Big Bend Adventure Begins 11:14 Exploring Big Bend: Trails and Wildlife 17:00 Campsite Experiences and Cooking Adventures 23:55 Final Thoughts on Big Bend and Future Plans

Jan 10

In this episode of the Free Outside Show, I share my journey from ideas to goals, discussing my plans for the Appalachian Trail record and the importance of creativity in trail running. I reflect on the impact of COVID on past goals, explore the role of ketones in endurance sports, and emphasize the growth of his podcast and personal development. I also delve into fueling strategies for endurance events, highlighting the need for balance and experimentation in training. Support this content patreon.com/freeoutside takeaways -Ideas can evolve into dreams and then into actionable goals. -COVID impacted many athletes' plans, including mine. -Creativity is abundant in today's world, especially in trail running. -Content creation is a vital part of sharing my journey. -Ketones can aid mental sharpness during extreme fatigue. -The podcast has significantly contributed to my personal growth. -Communication skills are essential for connecting with others. -Fueling strategies need to be tailored to individual needs. -The ultra running community is still developing and experimenting. -It's important to stay elite and committed to your goals. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Big Announcement 05:38 Planning for the Appalachian Trail Record 10:52 Capturing the Journey: Content Creation Plans 20:59 Reflections on the New Year and Podcast Growth 27:48 Fueling Strategies for Endurance Events Keywords : trail running, Appalachian Trail, goals, creativity, ketones, endurance, podcasting, personal growth, FKT, planning

Jan 6

In this episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I dive into one of the hottest (and coldest) topics sweeping the endurance sports world: passive heat exposure and cold plunging. Whether you're a runner, cyclist, triathlete, or just curious about optimizing recovery and performance, this episode has you covered. Support the podcast at Patreon.com/freeoutside I explore the science, benefits, and potential downsides of cold plunges—discussing how they reduce inflammation, build mental toughness, and help with rapid recovery, but might blunt long-term training adaptations. Then, I shift gears to heat training, unpacking how saunas, hot baths, and even layering up during workouts can improve blood plasma volume, VO₂ max, and heat tolerance while boosting overall endurance. With a mix of personal experience, coaching insights, studies, and more, I help you understand when and how to use these tools for maximum benefit. Plus, I outline how I integrate them into my own training schedule. Should you heat things up or chill out? Tune in to learn how to adapt these strategies for your goals—and avoid the bro-culture traps along the way. takeaways Cold plunges can reduce muscle inflammation and soreness. Heat exposure improves cardiovascular efficiency and VO2 max. Cold plunging may blunt training adaptations if used too frequently. Sauna use can enhance mental resilience and recovery. Heat training can be beneficial year-round, not just pre-race. Cold plunges are effective for injury recovery and inflammation. Both cold and heat exposure have unique physiological benefits. Training should be structured to incorporate both cold and heat methods. Mental toughness can be developed through discomfort in cold plunges. Everything in life contributes to overall training stress. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Endurance Sports Trends 10:12 Understanding Heat Exposure: Methods and Science 19:56 Comparing Cold and Heat Training: Pros and Cons

Jan 3

In this conversation, Katie Gunvalson shares her journey attempting the Pacific Crest Trail (PCT) Fastest Known Time (FKT) in 2024. She discusses her long-standing dream of hiking the PCT, her training and preparation, the challenges she faced including fire closures, and how she found motivation despite setbacks. Katie reflects on the intrinsic value of her experience, the highs and lows of the trail, and her determination to push through to the end, culminating in a remarkable final push to complete the trail. In this conversation, Katie shares her experiences and insights from her journey on the Pacific Crest Trail (PCT) while attempting a Fastest Known Time (FKT). She discusses her food strategies, the meticulous planning involved in her FKT attempt, and the emotional challenges she faced, including reflections on failure and the importance of perseverance. Katie also touches on her identity transformation through hiking, the significance of her trail name, and her passion for adventure and art. takeaways Katie had been dreaming about the PCT for over 10 years. The goal was to achieve the southbound record or hike as fast as possible. Katie transitioned from road running to trail running during the pandemic. Her first real thru-hike was the Arizona Trail, which helped her prepare for the PCT. She faced significant challenges with fire closures right at the start of her hike. Despite the setbacks, Katie remained committed to completing the trail. She learned to find joy in the journey, not just the destination. Katie's motivation shifted from achieving a record to personal fulfillment. The experience taught her the importance of intrinsic motivation in outdoor adventures. Katie completed the last 140 miles in a continuous push, demonstrating her resilience. I structured my day to have very limited breaks. I was cold soaking the good old Talenty jar. I had a spreadsheet and a lot of help from previous record holders. I had a very long time to think about failure. You don't have to be the person who gets the thing for it to matter. It's a puzzle and I want to figure it out. Can you turn around and do it again? It's okay to fail and you can find success in anything. I think more women just need to get out there and try it. Failure is not as scary as it sounds when you're starting something. Sound Bites "I was devastated. I didn't even get to try." "This means nothing, but it can matter to me." "I did a couple of 45s, a bunch of 40s." "I finished delirious. Yeah, losing my mind." "I tried to allow myself to sleep." "I was cold soaking the good old Talenty jar." "I had a spreadsheet and a lot of help." "It's a puzzle and I want to figure it out." "Can you turn around and do it again?" "It's okay to fail and you can find success." "Failure is not as scary as it sounds." Chapters 00:00 Setting the Stage for the PCT FKT Attempt 06:02 Training and Preparation for the Trail 12:09 Facing Challenges: Fires and Record Attempts 18:10 Finding Motivation Amidst Adversity 23:52 The Final Push: A Race Against Time 26:05 Fueling the Journey: Food Strategies on the Trail 36:04 Planning for Success: The FKT Strategy 41:15 Reflections on Failure: Lessons Learned from the Trail 45:43 Post-Trail Emotions: Coping with Disappointment 50:36 Identity and Transformation: The Meaning of Trail Names 52:29 The Art of Adventure: Balancing Passion and Reality

Dec 30, 2024

In this special episode, Jeff Garmire and Derrick Lytle bring the laughs with The Jeffrey Awards—trail running’s greatest trophy! Join us as we hilariously crown winners in outrageous categories celebrating the best, worst, and downright weirdest moments of the trail running and ultra community. Support us on Patreon. Patreon.com/freeoutside 🏆 Categories & Nominees: Most Obvious New Race Director : Finn Melanson, Dylan Bowman, Jeff Garmire, Wes Siler We Should Be Your Publicist Award: Camille Herron, UTMB, Spring Energy, Crazy Mountain 100 Most Tragic FKT : Katie Gunvalson (PCT fail on day 1), Eric Hallsten (AZT), Jeff Garmire (TRT), Joe McConaughy (JMT) Walker of the Year : Mike Wardian (Appalachian Trail), Joe Corcione (Cocodona & Ouray), Callie Vinson (Cocodona), the guy who “ran” the length of Africa Finally It Happened Award: Jasmine Paris (Barkley Marathons), Jeff Browning multi-day FKT, David Sinclair Pro Contract Forgot It Happened Award : The Eclipse, Further Project, Ludo Hardrock, Olympics, Barkley 5 finishers, Kyle Curtin, Kelvin Kiptom Double Track vs. Singletrack: Double Track, Singletrack Who Is That Award? : Inya Ramadi, Vincent Boullard, Will Peterson (LT FKT), Rod Farvard, Jeff Mogavero Most Destroyed Trail : Pacific Crest Trail (fires), Appalachian Trail (hurricane) Owner of Zona (King of Arizona) : Nick Fowler, Georgia Porter, Jamil Coury, Harry Subertas, Heather Anderson, Rachel Drake, Candice Burt Courtney vs. Jim Award : Courtney Dauwalter, Jim Walmsley They Still Run? Award : Andy Jones Wilkins, Jamil Coury, Billy Yang, Mike Foote, Dylan Bowman Tara Dower East Coaster of the Year: Tara Dower, Allison Mercer, Will Peterson, John Kelly Most Air Time Award: Dylan Bowman, Corrine Malcolm, Chris Warden, Leah Yingling, AJW Hypocritical Hero : UTMB, vegan AT attempts, big brands hiding manufacturing practices, Michael Sunseri, climate change fundraisers and athletes Hayden Hawks Ultra Runner of the Year: Hayden Hawks, David Roche, Jim Walmsley, Katie Schide, Courtney Dauwalter, Rachel Drake, David Sinclair, Jasmin Paris Best New Podcast: Boulder Boys, Free Outside, Second Nature Derrick Lytle Award: Greg Salvesen, Jeff Allen Influencer of the Year : Ketone-IQ influencers, Matt Choi, Matt Johnson, Sage Canaday Trail Town of the Year: Bend, Boulder, Flagstaff, Durango, Cedar City Who won? Who deserved it? And who walked home with their head down? Don’t miss this—because anything goes! Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Holiday Plans 05:57 Publicist Awards: Who Needs One? 11:57 Most Tragic FKT Attempts 17:59 Walker of the Year Awards 25:56 Finally It Happened: Celebrating Achievements 29:06 Memorable Moments in Sports 30:23 Record Breakers and Forgotten Achievements 32:03 Kyle Curtin's Impact on FKTs 35:03 The Who Is That Award: Unsung Heroes 42:41 Most Destroyed Trail: PCT vs AT 44:18 King or Queen of Arizona: The Nominees 50:59 The Joy of Unconventional Jobs 51:59 Celebrating Achievements in the Running Community 52:59 The Awards Show: A Lighthearted Discussion 53:59 The They Still Run Award: Who's Still in the Game? 01:00:01 The East Coaster of the Year Award 01:00:58 Most Airtime Award: Who Dominated the Conversation? 01:13:02 Humorous Race Commentary and Interviews 01:14:10 The Jeffrey Awards: Celebrating Achievements in Ultra Running 01:15:46 Hypocrisy in the Ultra Running Community 01:19:40 Traveling Athletes and Climate Change 01:22:30 The Hayden Hawks Ultra Runner of the Year Award 01:29:34 Best New Podcast and Future Awards 01:35:50 Innovative Live Streaming Ideas 01:36:24 The Jeffrey Awards: Celebrating Influencers 01:37:45 Marketing Strategies in the Influencer Space 01:38:57 Controversies in Running: The Case of Matt Choi 01:39:50 The Rise of Sponsorships in Trail Running 01:40:49 Matt Johnson: The Hybrid Athlete 01:42:04 Sage Canaday: The Ivy League Influencer 01:43:55 Trail Towns: The Best and the Worst 01:45:16 Predictions for the Future of Trail Running

Dec 27, 2024

I’m taking you along on a six-day, 150-mile adventure through Los Padres National Forest. It was a trip filled with poison oak, endless bushwhacking, and some questionable decision-making—like losing my hiking partner for a whole night. I’ll share everything, from battling overgrown trails to soaking in clothing-optional sespe hot springs, hitchhiking with a pigeon-loving driver, and trying not to let poison oak ruin the whole thing. This episode’s a bit experimental with trail audio clips mixed in, but hey, that’s how we roll. Support the show on patreon! Patreon.com/freeoutside takeaways -Backpacking is a challenging yet rewarding experience. -Getting lost in the wilderness can be both scary and enlightening. -Resupplying in remote areas can lead to unexpected adventures. -Nature can be harsh, with obstacles like poison oak and rough trails. -The beauty of the outdoors often comes with its own set of challenges. -Camaraderie in hiking can make tough situations more bearable. -Planning is essential, but flexibility is key in outdoor adventures. -Experiencing hot springs after a long hike is a unique reward. -The journey is as important as the destination in backpacking. -Every adventure teaches valuable lessons about nature and oneself. Sound Bites "We actually lost each other." "I got poison oak." "This is such a rough trail." "We hitchhiked into Ojai." "Thanks for listening." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Adventure 02:52 Day One: The Journey Begins 05:55 Day Two: Lost in the Wilderness 09:08 Resupply Challenges and Unexpected Turns 12:04 Climbing and Nature's Obstacles 15:00 The Thorn Point Lookout Tower 18:05 Hot Springs and Final Days 21:13 Conclusion and Reflections

Dec 23, 2024

This week on the Free Outside podcast, I continue my epic journey through the month of Jeff with an extraordinary guest: Jeff Jenkins, professional traveler, TV host, and all-around inspiring human. We dive into Jeff’s journey from taking his first flight at 20 years old to becoming a globe-trotting storyteller featured in Forbes and the New York Times . We talk about his first transformative experience in Japan, his approach to capturing content that inspires others, and how he’s opening up the travel world for plus-size adventurers. Jeff shares behind-the-scenes insights into his Nat Geo TV show, his strategies for manifesting big dreams, and what it takes to build a brand that’s authentic, inclusive, and impactful. Whether you’re a dreamer, a traveler, or just love hearing about chasing the impossible, this episode will leave you motivated to live boldly. Support the Free Outside Podcast: Patreon.com/freeoutside Follow Jeff Jenkins on the internet: https://www.instagram.com/chubbydiaries/?hl=en takeaways -Travel can be daunting, but the right destination can inspire courage. -Experiencing a new culture can broaden one's perspective. -Building a brand is more important than just being an influencer. -Daily affirmations can help manifest dreams and goals. -Traveling for content can sometimes overshadow the joy of exploration. -Shooting a TV show involves a rigorous schedule and preparation. -Authenticity in relationships is crucial amidst growing fame. -Inclusivity in travel accommodations is essential for all body types. -Persistence is key to success in content creation. -Travel teaches us that despite cultural differences, we are all fundamentally the same. Sound Bites "The travel bug bit me there." "I love Korean barbecue." "I want to go to Antarctica." Chapters 00:00 The Journey Begins: Jeff Jenkins' Early Travel Experiences 07:43 Building a Brand: From Influencer to Professional Traveler 13:44 Culinary Adventures: Memorable Meals from Around the World 19:55 Behind the Scenes: The Reality of Shooting a TV Show 25:55 Lessons from Travel: Common Humanity and Connections 32:08 Future Aspirations: Bucket List Destinations and Content Creation 38:05 Advocacy for Inclusivity: Changing the Travel Industry for All keywords: travel, content creation, Jeff Jenkins, Nat Geo, travel experiences, cultural discoveries, travel advice, travel industry, personal growth, inclusivity

Dec 20, 2024

Welcome to another epic installment of The Month of Jeff! In this episode, I’m joined by the one and only Jeff Hester, a trailblazing adventurer who’s done it all—from hiking the John Muir Trail 30 years apart to founding the Six Pack of Peaks Challenge and SoCalHiker.net . Find Jeff Hester on the internet: https://www.instagram.com/jeffhester/ Jeff shares incredible stories about thru-hiking in the 1980s (hello, mimeographed itineraries and DIY dehydrated meals!) and how his love for the outdoors evolved into building a vibrant hiking community. We dive deep into the magic of the John Muir Trail, the challenges of the Lost Coast Trail, and how Jeff turned his passion for adventure into a movement inspiring thousands of hikers every year. Support us on Patreon: Patreon.com/freeoutside takeaways -Hiking can be a transformative experience that builds confidence. -Planning and preparation are crucial for successful long hikes. -Resupply strategies can make or break a hiking trip. -Community and social connections enhance the hiking experience. -The evolution of hiking culture reflects broader societal changes. -Documenting hiking experiences can inspire others to explore the outdoors. -Physical maps and traditional navigation offer a different adventure than GPS. -The Lost Coast Trail presents unique challenges and rewards. -Building a community requires consistency and genuine interaction. -The joy of hiking lies in the experience, not just the documentation. Sound Bites "It's a whole different experience than nowadays." "I would go back and do that one again." "You just never know how that's going to end up." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Jeff Hester and the John Muir Trail 09:30 Resupply Strategies and Trail Cuisine in 1980 15:39 Life Changes and the Decision to Hike Again 25:12 Growth of the Six Pack of Peaks Challenge 32:55 The 2010 JMT Hike Experience 38:12 Comparing Hiking Experiences: 1980 vs 2010 44:32 The Lost Coast Trail Adventure 53:01 Backpacking Then and Now: A Reflection keywords : John Muir Trail, SoCal Hiker, hiking community, outdoor adventure, backpacking, trail cuisine, resupply strategies, Lost Coast Trail, Six Pack of Peaks, endurance sports

Dec 16, 2024

In this episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I sit down with filmmaker, fast-packer, and trail runner Jeff Pelletier to explore the intersection of storytelling and adventure. Jeff shares his journey from marathons to the trails, how he balances racing with creating stunning films, and the meticulous planning that goes into his multi-day fast-packing projects and race documentaries. Support us: patreon.com/freeoutside We dive into the art of capturing a narrative while on the move, his experiences with stage races, the challenges of gear and logistics, and how he’s carved out a career as a creator in the trail running world. Whether you're curious about filmmaking, fast-packing, or just looking for inspiration to tackle your next big adventure, this conversation is packed with insight and enthusiasm. Find Jeff Pelletier on the internet: https://www.instagram.com/jpelletier/?hl=en takeaways -Fast packing combines hiking and trail running for a unique experience. -Adventure filmmaking requires careful planning and storytelling. -Filming during races presents challenges but can enhance the narrative. -The community aspect of trail running is vital for personal growth. -Sponsorships can evolve from athletic support to creative partnerships. -Creating a YouTube channel requires defining your niche and audience. -Adventure travel can inspire confidence in participants. -Long-form content fosters deeper connections with audiences. -The future of adventure filmmaking includes exploring new niches and stories. -Building a sustainable media company involves diversifying income streams. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Fast Packing 09:34 Trail Running and Race Strategy 15:40 YouTube and Storytelling 21:45 Experiencing the European Hut-to-Hut Style 27:49 Location Scouting and Filmmaking 33:32 Future Aspirations and Goals 39:46 The Shift from Short Form to Long Form Content 44:56 The Evolution of a Media Company 49:48 Navigating Sponsorships and Brand Relationships 59:50 Advice for Aspiring Creators keywords : fast packing, trail running, adventure filmmaking, storytelling, ultra running, YouTube, sponsorship, outdoor community, adventure travel, filmmaking tips

Dec 13, 2024

A dynamic conversation with the legendary Jeff Browning on the Free Outside Podcast. With over 200 ultra marathons, 40 wins, and a record-breaking career spanning decades, Jeff shares invaluable insights on longevity in ultrarunning, mindset training, and his approach to coaching. We dive into the evolution of the sport, gear innovations, nutrition strategies, and some wild stories, including his adventures in 200-mile races and the Colorado Trail. This episode is packed with inspiration, laughter, and actionable takeaways for runners of all levels. Don't miss this deep dive into the world of ultrarunning! Follow Jeff on the internet: https://www.instagram.com/gobroncobilly/ takeaways -Jeff Browning has completed nearly 200 ultra marathons and has over 40 wins. -The impact of pregnancy on athletic contracts is significant and groundbreaking. -Coaching plays a crucial role in ultra running, providing personalized training plans. -Nutrition and recovery are key components for success in ultra running. -The transition to 200-mile races presents unique challenges and requires a -different approach. -Mindset is essential for overcoming obstacles during long races. -Chafing management is a critical aspect of ultra running that can affect performance. -The future of trail running may see more specialization among athletes. -Individualized nutrition strategies are important for optimal performance. -Fast packing can be a viable alternative to racing for enjoying the experience. Sound Bites "I need to update them." "I want to appreciate it more." "Bronco Billy has superpowers." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Jeff Browning's Achievements 11:54 The Role of Coaching in Ultra Running 17:55 The Evolution of Ultra Running and Training Methods 23:49 Influences and Resources in Training Philosophy 30:23 Training Insights from Elite Runners 36:42 Tracking Training: The Evolution of Technology 43:44 The Shift in Running Shoe Philosophy 49:08 Lessons from Multi-Day Races 54:29 Reflections on Endurance and Motivation 01:00:14 Chafing Challenges and Creative Solutions 01:07:37 Understanding Hydration and Nutrition in Ultra Running 01:17:01 Introduction to Contract Season in Trail Running 01:17:02 The Future of Trail Running and Athlete Negotiations keywords: ultra running, Jeff Browning, coaching, nutrition, trail running, 200-mile races, mindset, athletic contracts, recovery, training methods

Dec 9, 2024

In this special "Month of Jeff" episode of the Free Outside Podcast , I’m joined by the multi-talented Jeffrey James Binney—a comedian, filmmaker, ultra runner, and all-around adventurer. We dive into some deeply relatable topics like imposter syndrome, navigating failure, and finding joy in unexpected hobbies. Jeffrey shares his journey from performing on stage to running 100-mile races and thru-hiking the Pacific Crest Trail, offering insights on embracing discomfort, the power of persistence, and even how comedy shaped his resilience. Support the podcast at patreon.com/freeoutside We discuss the challenges of public success, the unpredictability of trail life, and the lessons learned from pursuing big, scary goals—whether it’s finishing an ultra marathon or creating a feature-length film. Plus, there are plenty of laughs as we explore quirky hobbies, share tales of trail mishaps, and unpack the wisdom behind knowing when to quit. Follow Jeffrey James Binney online takeaways Imposter syndrome is common, but everyone is winging it. Failure is a gift that teaches valuable lessons. It's normal to feel unmotivated at times. Stand-up comedy offers a unique sense of ownership. The journey of trail running is filled with unexpected challenges. Finding a coach can provide essential support and guidance. Creativity often stems from a desire to experience everything. Social media fame comes with its own set of challenges. Mental health is crucial in managing public expectations. Embrace the courage it takes to perform in front of an audience. Sound Bites "Nobody knows what they're doing." "I got so bored by the end." "You can do anything you want." Chapters 00:00 Navigating Imposter Syndrome 11:47 The Journey of Comedy and Performance 17:15 The Highs and Lows of Stand-Up 23:14 The Transition to Ultra Running 28:59 Finding a Coach and Training for Success 33:59 Post-Trail Reflections and Future Goals 42:08 The Challenge of Writing a Book 47:15 The Journey of Solitude to Community 55:30 Navigating Expectations and Pressures keywords: Jeffrey James Binney, imposter syndrome, motivation, failure, stand-up comedy, ultra running, creativity, social media, mental health

Dec 6, 2024

The month of Jeff continues with this sit down with the incredible Jeff Colt, an elite ultrarunner who’s won the Bandera 100K to claim a golden ticket to Western States, set the FKT on the White Mountain Hut Traverse, run at the World Championships, and has a top-10 finish at Western States. We cover everything from what it’s like traveling with a giant golden ticket to his journey from competitive skiing in New Hampshire to competing on the trails. Support the show and find bonus content at patreon.com/freeoutside Jeff shares hilarious stories about Race Day Rick (his dad and unofficial NASCAR-inspired crew), insights on balancing a full-time job with a pro running career, and his secret to crafting the perfect breakfast burrito. We also get into the evolution of trail running, regional race cultures, and the moments that fueled his passion for the sport. Follow Jeff Colt online at https://www.instagram.com/easy_dog/ Takeaways -Jeff Colt transitioned from competitive skiing to ultra running. -Nordic skiing provides a strong endurance foundation for athletes. -Working in the White Mountain Hut system inspired Colt's long-distance running. -Colt's first attempt at the Hut Traverse was a humorous learning experience. -Funding a running career can involve creative solutions like partnerships. -Community plays a vital role in the running experience. -Race Day Rick, Colt's father, is a passionate supporter of his running. -The future of trail running includes a mix of local and international events. -Colt emphasizes the importance of variety in training and life. -Burritos are a favorite food for Colt, showcasing his culinary skills. Sound Bites "It's all Jeff's all the time." "Travel brings a lot of variety." "I love making burritos." Chapters 00:00 The Golden Ticket Experience 05:27 From Skiing to Ultra Running 15:48 Life in the White Mountain Hut System 21:56 The Journey to Ultra Running Success 27:49 Funding a Running Career 34:13 Navigating the Gear Testing Landscape 37:20 Giving Back to the Community 38:24 Aiming for the World Stage 39:20 The Journey to Team USA 41:41 The Thrill of Competing Internationally 42:18 Gorge 100K as a Qualifier 43:43 The Evolution of Trail Racing 45:27 Building a Competitive Trail Running Community 47:55 The Future of Trail Running 58:14 Balancing Work and Professional Running 01:03:38 The Role of Family in Racing 01:08:43 Unique Gear Testing Experiences 01:10:42 The Art of the Perfect Burrito 01:13:00 Introduction to the Month of Jeff 01:13:25 Jeff Colt's Achievements and Experiences keywords: Jeff Colt, ultra running, Nordic skiing, White Mountain Hut, golden ticket, endurance sports, community, race day support, trail running, outdoor adventures

Dec 2, 2024

In this episode of the Free Outside podcast, I had the pleasure of chatting with fellow Montana trail runner and Western States golden ticket holder, Jeff Mogavero. We covered everything from Taylor Swift treadmill workouts to the chaos of UTMB and the science behind his incredible heat management strategies at Javelina. Support the Show on Patreon: Patreon.com/freeoutside Jeff shared hilarious stories, like being approached by a jacked USADA official for post-race drug testing while he was flopping around at the finish line, and explained how his “beer gut of ice” strategy helped him crush the desert heat. We also dove into the differences between U.S. and European trail races—did you know UTMB crowds cheer with chainsaws?—and how he balances competitive running with his love for ski mountaineering. Follow Jeff on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeffmogavero/ But what stood out most was Jeff’s mindset. Whether it’s finishing a grueling race or fueling a long run with expired gels, his passion for the sport and relentless pursuit of joy are inspiring. This episode was a blast, full of laughs, insights, and a ton of heart. If you’re into trail running, Taylor Swift, or just chasing what excites you, this one’s worth a listen. takeaways -The quality of outdoor media has declined, focusing more on clickbait. -Experiencing drug testing post-race can be a unique challenge. -Cooling strategies are crucial for success in ultra running. -Pacing and mental strategies play a significant role in race performance. -Transitioning to ski mountaineering can be a fun and rewarding experience. -Training for ski mountaineering is similar to trail running but with added excitement. -The journey to becoming a national team athlete can be unexpected and fulfilling. -Experiences at races can vary greatly depending on conditions and support. -Community and support are vital in endurance sports. -Every race offers unique challenges that can lead to personal growth. Aid stations can be chaotic and unpredictable. -The shift to high-carb nutrition has transformed ultrarunning. -Racing in Europe offers a unique and energetic atmosphere. -Finishing races is crucial for personal satisfaction and growth. -Nutrition strategies can significantly impact performance and recovery. -The journey to becoming a pro runner is often unconventional. Community and camaraderie are vital in the running world. Experimenting with nutrition can lead to better performance. Embracing challenges can reignite passion for the sport. The ultrarunning community is supportive and encouraging. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Taylor Swift Favorites 16:34 Post-Race Drug Testing Insights 22:38 Cooling Strategies and Aid Station Dynamics 28:26 Offseason Plans and Ski-Mo Racing 41:01 The Wild Experience of UTMB Mexico 47:33 Transitioning to High Carb Nutrition 59:54 Racing in Europe: A Different Culture 01:06:00 Reflections on Performance and Recovery 01:12:56 Pursuing Joy in Running 01:20:00 The Transition to Professionalism 01:23:19 Engaging with the Community: Reviews and Support keywords: Taylor Swift, outdoor media, Javelina, ultra running, pacing, ski mountaineering, US national team, training, UTMB Mexico, ultramarathon, high carb nutrition, racing experiences, European trail running, becoming a pro runner

Nov 28, 2024

The 2024 Gear Game Changers 1. Adidas Terrex Agravic Speed Trail Trail running and hiking require shoes that can handle technical terrain, and the Adidas Agravic Trail Shoe exceeded expectations. With exceptional grip, comfort, and durability, this shoe became my go-to for demanding trails. Whether it was long races or quick outings, these shoes delivered every step of the way. 2. Nitecore NU25 Headlamp If you’ve ever been caught in the dark without a reliable light, you know how important a good headlamp is. The Nitecore NU25 offers lightweight design, powerful brightness, and long battery life—everything you need for night runs, early morning starts, or multi-day hikes. 3. Naked Belt Bouncing gear during a run or hike? No thanks. The Naked Belt solves that problem with its snug, lightweight design that holds essentials like nutrition, a phone, and hydration flasks securely. It’s become an essential for my FKTs and ultrarunning adventures. 4. Precision Gels (90-Carb Size) When it comes to endurance nutrition, simplicity is key. These high-carb gels pack a powerful punch, delivering sustained energy without the need for constant fueling. They’ve been a game-changer for reducing bonking and simplifying my race-day nutrition strategy. 5. Ultraspire Packs Long-distance adventures demand a pack that’s lightweight, ergonomic, and easy to access. Ultraspire nailed it with their design. From hydration to snacks and extra layers, these packs strike the perfect balance of capacity and comfort. 6. Alpha Direct Fleece Layering is critical in the outdoors, and microgrid fleece has quickly become my favorite versatile piece. Lightweight yet warm, it’s ideal for early mornings, cold-weather adventures, or as an emergency layer when temperatures drop. 7. Sodium Bicarbonate This year, I experimented with sodium bicarbonate, a secret weapon for combating muscle fatigue. By buffering lactic acid during high-intensity efforts, it has improved endurance and recovery in some of my toughest races. 8. Aero 28 Pack For those minimalist adventures where every ounce counts, the Aero 28 Pack delivers. It’s perfect for unsupported FKTs or fastpacking trips, providing just enough space for essentials without slowing you down. 9. Visors Simple yet effective, visors deserve a spot on this list. They provide sun protection, keep sweat out of your eyes, and allow for better airflow compared to traditional hats. Plus, they’ve become a stylish staple in the outdoor community this year. What’s Next? Trying Out the Iced Cap One piece of gear I’m especially excited to try is the iced cap. Designed for hot-weather races, this innovative cap provides active cooling during intense efforts. With temperatures rising in many races, I can’t wait to see how it performs. Stay tuned for an update after my next hot-weather event! In this episode, Jeff Garmire reflects on a challenging year filled with various outdoor adventures and gear testing. He shares his favorite gear that has significantly impacted his trail running experience, including shoes, headlamps, hydration packs, and nutrition strategies. Jeff emphasizes the importance of reliable gear and effective fueling methods for long-distance running and discusses upcoming innovations he is excited to try. The episode concludes with a teaser for the upcoming 'Month of Jeff' series, featuring interviews with various athletes named Jeff. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Year in Review 03:09 Gear Game Changers of the Year 08:48 Essential Gear for Trail Running 14:47 Nutrition and Fueling Strategies 21:00 Upcoming Innovations and Closing Thoughts gear, trail running, nutrition, FKTs, outdoor gear, running shoes, headlamps, hydration packs, fueling strategies, outdoor adventures

Nov 26, 2024

David Sinclair may have a case for Trail Runner of the Year after the most impressive race of the year. He broke the course record at JFK 50 miler. This is a race that Jim Walmsley, Adam Peterman, and Zach Miller have run, and he broke Hayden Hawks record by 10 minutes! We discuss his race strategy, the importance of nutrition, and the unique challenges of transitioning between trail and road shoes. Sinclair reflects on his journey to recognition and sponsorship in the ultra-running community, balancing his passions for skiing and trail running. He emphasizes the significance of strength training and shares insights into his training regimen. The conversation also touches on the distinct challenges of East Coast trails compared to their West Coast counterparts, the role of heat training in performance, and his aspirations for the future. Sound Bites "Winning the JFK 50 was surreal for me." "Grit and resilience define my journey." takeaways David Sinclair set a course record at the JFK 50 miler. He emphasizes the importance of head-to-head competition over time goals. Transitioning between trail and road shoes is a unique challenge. Nutrition planning is crucial for long races. Winning the JFK 50 was a surreal experience for Sinclair. Recognition and sponsorship in ultra running can be slow to come. Balancing skiing and trail running is a key focus for Sinclair. Strength training plays a significant role in his training regimen. Sinclair aims for Olympic aspirations in ski mountaineering. East Coast trails present unique challenges compared to West Coast trails. Chapters 00:00 David Sinclair's JFK 50 Victory and Course Record 07:55 Transitioning Between Trail and Road Shoes 13:45 The Thrill of Winning and Breaking Records 19:28 Navigating Sponsorship and Career Decisions 24:57 The Road to the Olympics and Team Dynamics 33:53 Overcoming Challenges in Competition 40:42 Training Structure and Recovery 45:42 Threshold Workouts and Race Preparation 51:28 Heat Training and Its Benefits 57:25 Weekly Mileage and Training Volume keywords: David Sinclair, JFK 50, ultra running, race strategy, nutrition, sponsorship, trail running, skiing, training regimen, strength training

Nov 25, 2024

The Free Outside Show , Jeff Garmire reflects on a challenging few weeks, the growth of his podcast, and the valuable lessons he's learned from interviewing some of the biggest names in ultra running, including David Roche, Tara Dower, Nick Fowler, and Frank Gielen. Jeff shares transformative insights on fueling strategies, the importance of daily structure, and how mindset can make or break performance. Dive into discussions about high-carb fueling, cross-training, and the power of belief in achieving ultra running goals. Along the way, Jeff also opens up about his personal journey—why starting this podcast pushed him out of his comfort zone and how he's used it to contribute to the outdoor and running community. Whether you're chasing an FKT, training for your next ultra, or simply navigating life's challenges, this episode is packed with wisdom to inspire and empower. Tune in to hear the advice that could change your running game and your perspective on what's possible. takeaways -The podcast has grown through genuine interviewing and practice. -Nutrition is crucial for performance in ultra running. -A holistic approach to diet can prevent gut issues. -Daily structure and efficiency are key to success in ultra running. -Learning from experienced athletes can accelerate personal growth. -Belief in oneself is essential for achieving goals. -Self-promotion is necessary for athletes to gain recognition. -Cross-training can enhance running performance and reduce injury risk. -Training schedules should incorporate rest and varied workouts. -Failure is a part of the journey; resilience is vital. Sound Bites "I wanted to practice and get out of my shell." "The love of the process is what we all really enjoy." "You have to market yourself as an athlete." "Running economy is the buzzword." "You need to think of it as a whole." "It's okay if you fail, but know you can go back." Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Personal Reflections 02:46 Podcast Growth and Interviewing Techniques 06:03 Nutrition and Fueling Strategies 08:54 Daily Structure and Efficiency in Ultra Running 12:14 Learning from the Pros and Mindset 15:02 The Importance of Belief and Self-Promotion 17:55 Cross-Training and Running Economy 21:12 Training Schedules and Periodization 23:58 Community Contribution and Personal Growth 26:48 Failure and Resilience in Ultra Running keywords: podcast, ultra running, nutrition, mindset, training, interviews, fueling strategies, cross-training, community, resilience, David Roche, Tara Dower, Nick Fowler, Frank Gielen

Nov 22, 2024

Jeff Garmire interviews Nick Fowler, who shares his experience of Breaking the Fastest Known Time (FKT) on the Arizona Trail. The conversation covers Nick's recovery process after the trail, his nutrition strategies, the challenges he faced during the attempt, and the emotional moments he experienced along the way. Nick reflects on his training, the importance of mental toughness, and his future plans for more FKTs. Support the show on Patreon! Patreon.com/Freeoutside Find Nick on the internet! His book "Itch": https://www.amazon.com/Itch-Pacific-Northwest-Trail-Story-ebook/dp/B0CWMYRQXK Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nick.fowler.says.hi/?hl=en takeaways Nick lost 15 pounds during his trail attempt. He emphasizes the importance of trying new things to discover potential. Nick faced significant challenges, including dehydration and exhaustion. He had to adapt his nutrition strategy on the fly during the trail. Sleep deprivation played a major role in his performance. Nick's emotional moments were highlighted by the support of friends. He learned valuable lessons from each FKT attempt he has made. The mental aspect of endurance challenges is crucial for success. Nick plans to tackle the Watchtower Trail next. He believes in the power of belief to achieve great feats. Sound Bites "I was so tired, Jeff." "I was hiking naked." "I had zero training." Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Recovery Post-Trail 04:54 The Arizona Trail FKT Attempt 07:47 Challenges on the Trail 10:27 Resupply Strategies and Nutrition 13:24 Caffeine and Energy Management 16:42 Sleep Deprivation and Its Effects 19:34 Navigating Obstacles and Mistakes 22:37 The Final Stretch and Emotional Moments 33:08 Navigating Challenges: The Journey to Micah 35:03 Mindset and Goals: The Final Days 36:39 Outsourcing Support: The Power of Teamwork 38:36 The Emotional Finish: Celebrating Success 40:41 Recovery and Reflection: The Aftermath 42:31 Gear and Preparation: Lessons Learned 48:08 Overcoming Obstacles: Chafing and Motivation 53:59 Humanizing the Journey: Personal Struggles 57:46 The Mindset of a Champion: Belief and Determination 01:01:28 Introduction to Nick Fowler and His Achievements

Nov 17, 2024

In this conversation, ultra runner David Roche discusses his journey in the sport, his coaching philosophy, and the importance of community and vulnerability in running. He shares insights on balancing personal goals with coaching responsibilities, the mindset required for ultra races, and the significance of running economy in performance. Support the Podcast on Patreon: patreon.com/freeoutside Roche emphasizes the need for athletes to embrace vulnerability and shoot for big goals, while also highlighting the collaborative nature of coaching with his partner, Megan Roche. In this conversation, David and Jeff explore the intricacies of ultra running, focusing on training adaptations, the importance of community support, and the evolving understanding of training metrics. They discuss the balance between volume and quality in training, the role of cross training, and the significance of emotional support during races. David shares his personal experiences and insights on how to approach ultra running with a mindset of curiosity and openness, emphasizing the importance of community in the sport. Find David on the Internet: Instagram Some Work All Play Podcast takeaways -David Roche emphasizes the importance of community in ultra running. -He believes in a non-zero-sum approach to coaching. -Vulnerability is a key aspect of the athlete's journey. -The mindset of 'shooting your shot' is crucial for success. -Running economy is essential for ultra performance. -Strides can significantly improve running economy. -Coaching is a collaborative process between David and Megan Roche. -David's journey to the Leadville record was fueled by a desire to model vulnerability. -The process of training should be anchored in fun. -David encourages athletes to pursue big, scary goals. Adaptation in training -can lead to significant performance improvements. -Quality of training often outweighs quantity in ultra running. -Cross training can enhance running economy and reduce injury risk. -Challenging traditional training norms can lead to better long-term results. -RPE should be calibrated with physiological metrics for better training outcomes. -Community support plays a crucial role in ultra running success. -Emotional resilience is key to overcoming challenges in races. -Understanding the science behind training can help redefine personal limits. -The importance of fueling strategies in ultra running cannot be overstated. -Embracing a mindset of curiosity can enhance the running experience. Sound Bites "It's not a zero sum game." "We are all in it together." "Life is short." "I had to model that." "What are we all capable of?" "Shoot your shot." "The process is about vulnerability." "The Holy Grail of running." "Heat is a part of training." "I want to be done for a late dinner." "We are in this together." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to David Roche and His Achievements 02:57 The Science of Training and Coaching Philosophy 05:54 Balancing Personal Goals with Coaching Responsibilities 09:05 The Journey to the Leadville Record 11:59 Mindset and Preparation for Ultra Races 14:49 The Impact of Community and Vulnerability in Running 17:47 Running Economy and Its Importance 21:13 Coaching Dynamics with Megan Roche 29:30 The Power of Adaptation in Training 32:20 Training Framework for Ultra Runners 34:41 The Role of Cross Training in Performance 36:24 Challenging Traditional Training Norms 38:28 Understanding RPE and Heart Rate in Training 40:32 Future Aspirations in Ultra Running 47:32 The Importance of Community and Support in Ultra Running keywords: David Roche, ultra running, Leadville 100, coaching, running economy, training science, vulnerability, community, mindset, personal growth, ultra running, training, adaptation, cross training, heart rate, community support, performance, running economy, mental resilience, athlete coaching

Nov 15, 2024

Support the Show: Patreon.com/freeoutside Dean Karnazes joins the show to share his incredible running journey. We discuss his unique perspective on running as a form of play, his ambitious goals, and the cultural differences in trail running across the globe. He reflects on the evolution of ultra running, his early experiences, and the spirit of adventure that drives him. Karnazes also touches on the challenges of storytelling and navigating his public persona as a well-known figure in the ultra-running community. In this engaging conversation, Dean Karnazes shares his experiences and insights from over three decades in ultra running. He discusses the challenges and rewards of competing at an older age, the mental preparation required for long races, and the power of perseverance in the face of adversity. Dean also reflects on the relatability of running stories, the journey of writing his first book, and the evolution of trail running. He offers valuable advice for aspiring runners and storytellers, emphasizing the importance of authenticity and the courage to pursue one's passions. Check out Dean's Books: https://amzn.to/4fp6X8n Takeaways Dean Karnazes has completed numerous ultra marathons and unique challenges. He views running as a form of play and adventure. Karnazes has ambitious goals, including running from the Dead Sea to Mount Everest. Stage racing presents different challenges compared to traditional races. Cultural differences impact the popularity of trail running worldwide. The growth of trail running is increasing in both the US and Europe. Karnazes's early experiences in ultra running were marked by a lack of information and support. The spirit of adventure is a driving force in Karnazes's life. Storytelling became a significant aspect of Karnazes's journey in ultra running. Navigating public recognition has been a personal growth experience for Karnazes. Dean Karnazes continues to inspire younger runners despite his age. The ultra running scene has evolved significantly over the years. Mental preparation is crucial for enduring long races. Perseverance can lead to rewarding experiences, even in tough races. Relatable stories in running can inspire a broader audience. Writing a book was a personal challenge for Dean. The book tour experience was both grueling and rewarding. Curiosity drives Dean to seek new adventures in running. It's common to take on more challenges than one can handle. The trail running community is growing and evolving. Sound Bites "I always try to view running as a form of play." "There's a lot of logistics involved." "I never looked at myself as a competitive athlete." "I'm fucking old and people still race me." "I'm gonna try my best at this race." "Not everyone can have a VO2 max like Killian's." "Can you write a good book?" "I've got so many stories." "It's about an experience, right? A race experience." Chapters 00:00 The Journey of Dean Karnazes 02:09 Running as Play: A Unique Perspective 03:52 Ambitious Goals: From Badwater to Everest 05:57 Stage Racing: A Different Kind of Challenge 08:08 Cultural Differences in Trail Running 11:30 The Evolution of Ultra Running 12:03 The Early Days of Ultra Running 18:09 The Spirit of Adventure 20:39 Storytelling and Public Persona 23:28 The Endurance of Age and Competition 24:50 Exploring New Challenges in Ultra Running 27:13 Mental Preparation for Long Races 29:07 The Power of Perseverance 31:29 Relatability in Running Stories 32:07 The Journey of Writing a Book 34:10 Life After Publishing: The Book Tour Experience 36:11 Curiosity and New Adventures in Running 38:06 Biting Off More Than You Can Chew 41:22 The Evolution of Trail Running 45:03 Advice for Aspiring Runners and Storytellers

Nov 11, 2024

In this episode, Jeff Garmire, known as 'Legend', shares his incredible journey through the world of endurance sports. With over 30,000 miles of backpacking experience, he discusses his transition from traditional thru-hiking to tackling ultra-marathons and setting Fastest Known Times (FKTs). Jeff elaborates on his experiences with the Great Western Loop, the Colorado Trail, and the Cocodona 250, highlighting the mental and physical challenges he faced along the way. He emphasizes the importance of having a toolkit of strategies to overcome obstacles and maintain motivation during long endurance events. In this conversation, Jeff Garmire shares his insights on endurance racing, training for long-distance events, the importance of recovery, and how to set and achieve personal goals. He discusses the mental and emotional aspects of endurance sports, the significance of rest days, and how to handle pushback from others when pursuing one's passion. Jeff also reflects on his experiences with failure and the lessons learned, as well as his approach to efficiency in long-distance hiking. The discussion wraps up with Jeff's plans for the winter and how he disconnects from metrics to enjoy running. Check out the PB and Mountains Podcast Takeaways Jeff's journey began with a simple encounter with a thru-hiker. He believes in having fun while pursuing difficult challenges. The Great Western Loop is a 7,000-mile trek around the West. Mental resilience is key in endurance sports. Every challenge faced adds tools to your toolkit. The Colorado Trail was a significant test of endurance. Aid stations in races provide crucial support and motivation. Jeff's humor and unique style set him apart in the endurance community. He emphasizes the importance of micro-goals during tough times. New goals and ideas keep Jeff motivated in his pursuits. The energy of the environment can greatly enhance performance. Long-distance races require a different training approach than shorter ones. Recovery is crucial for improvement and should be prioritized. It's important to manage external opinions when pursuing personal passions. Setting goals involves transforming dreams into actionable plans. Taking time off from metrics can help maintain the joy of running. Failures can provide valuable lessons and insights for future attempts. Efficiency in long-distance hiking can be achieved through structured planning. Creativity can help break the monotony of long hikes. Connecting with the audience is essential for sharing experiences. Sound Bites "I want something really hard." "I just enjoy in the moment when it's tough." "I just dove into this." "You just never want to run out of tools." "I didn't even know how drop bags worked." "I love interacting with the other runners." "The first 40 miles don't really matter." "You need to take rest days every so often." "Dreams, goals, plans." "Disconnecting from all the metrics." "Where can people catch up with you?" Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Jeff Garmire: The Legend 02:53 The Evolution of Endurance: From Thru-Hiking to Ultra Running 05:46 The Great Western Loop: A 7,000-Mile Challenge 12:06 Breaking Records: The Colorado Trail Experience 17:59 Mental Strategies for Endurance Challenges 20:50 Cocodona 250: A Unique Ultra Experience 29:27 The Energy of Endurance Racing 30:53 Training for Long-Distance Races 32:43 The Importance of Recovery 36:36 Overcoming Pushback and Pursuing Passion 40:52 Goal Setting: Dreams, Goals, and Plans 43:45 Winter Training and Disconnecting from Metrics 45:15 Learning from Failures 48:56 Efficiency in Long-Distance Hiking 57:04 Connecting with the Audience

Nov 8, 2024

In this conversation, Tara Dower shares her experiences as an ultra runner and her journey to setting the FKT on the Appalachian Trail. She discusses the emotional challenges of post-trail depression, the importance of crew dynamics, and the lessons learned from her previous failed attempt at the trail. Tara emphasizes the significance of nutrition and planning in achieving FKTs, and how her supportive crew played a crucial role in her success. The conversation also touches on mental health, overcoming panic attacks, and the importance of teamwork in endurance sports. In this conversation, Tara Dower shares her experiences preparing for and completing the Fastest Known Time (FKT) on the Appalachian Trail. She discusses the meticulous planning involved, the balance between training for the Hard Rock race and the FKT, and the importance of having a supportive crew. Tara emphasizes the evolution of FKT training, the significance of sharing knowledge within the community, and her passion for documenting her adventures through vlogging. The discussion also touches on the role of social media in making outdoor experiences more accessible and the joy of creating content on platforms like YouTube. Tara reflects on the mindset needed to tackle big challenges and shares her aspirations for future FKTs, particularly on the Long Trail. takeaways Post-trail depression can be a significant challenge after achieving a major goal. Having a supportive crew is essential for success in FKTs. Nutrition plays a critical role in endurance events. Experiencing failure can lead to personal growth and understanding. Mental health issues can manifest physically during intense activities. Planning and preparation are key to tackling long-distance trails. The journey is as important as the destination in trail running. Team dynamics can enhance performance and morale during FKTs. Setting smaller goals can help manage anxiety during long challenges. The Appalachian Trail is a massive undertaking that requires careful strategy. Preparation is key for a successful FKT attempt. Balancing multiple training goals can enhance performance. Viewing challenges from a positive perspective can aid in success. The evolution of FKT training includes running efficiency. Learning from others' experiences is invaluable. Sharing knowledge can inspire future adventurers. Documenting experiences through vlogging adds value to the journey. Social media can make outdoor experiences more accessible. Creating content should be enjoyable and fulfilling. Embracing failure is part of personal growth and adventure. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Tara Dower's Achievements 05:55 The Journey to the Appalachian Trail FKT 11:51 Lessons from Failure: The 2017 Attempt 18:07 The Importance of Crew Dynamics 23:48 Planning for the FKT: The Trail Bible 30:08 Looking Ahead: Future Plans and Goals 38:08 The Evolution of FKT Training 46:20 The Role of Social Media in Outdoor Experiences 54:51 Mindset for Tackling Big Challenges

Nov 4, 2024

Frank Gielen , a member of the champion Belgium team in the Backyard Ultra World Team Championship and owner of the Backyard world record joins the podcast. Frank shares his journey into ultra running, the strategies he employs during races, and the importance of teamwork and mental resilience. He discusses the challenges of managing sleep and nutrition, the phenomenon of hallucinations during long races, and the camaraderie among competitors. The conversation culminates in reflections on breaking records and the future of backyard ultra racing. In this conversation, Frank The Tank shares his insights on nutrition, training, and mental strategies for endurance events, particularly backyard ultras. He emphasizes the importance of proper nutrition, the role of a supportive crew, and the need for a structured plan focused on endurance. Frank also discusses the significance of mindset in overcoming challenges and achieving personal goals, while looking forward to future races and challenges. Follow Frank Gielen on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/frankdetank_ultraloper/ takeaways Always nervous for such kind of events. The less goals you have, the less stress you have. I learned to appreciate the format more and more. You help yourself also by helping each other. The nights are the hardest part of it. I make sure I have my dose of hallucinations. We chose to stop together after we break the world record. I still have the bladder of a 90 year old. I was always happy to do one more. Team dynamics are crucial in endurance racing. Portion control is key for endurance nutrition. Easy digestible foods are preferred in the early hours. Crew support is crucial for success in endurance events. Training should focus on endurance with a mix of surfaces. Mindset can significantly impact performance and recovery. It's important to learn from past experiences and mistakes. Fast laps allow for better rest and nutrition intake. A strong crew can help push you through tough moments. Training mileage can vary; quality over quantity is essential. Believing in oneself can help break mental barriers. Sound Bites "The less goals you have, the less stress you have." "I learned to appreciate the format more and more." "You help yourself also by helping each other." "I was always happy to do one more." "The nights are the hardest part of it." "I make sure I have my dose of hallucinations." "I see dinosaurs now!" "We are friends, stopping together." "I still have the bladder of a 90 year old." "Every backyard you learn something new." "You don't need to be as fast as others to succeed." "Gerald is worth gold. He's a really true friend." "I focus on endurance, about a 100K a week." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Backyard Ultra Racing 02:58 Frank's Journey into Ultra Running 05:47 Team Dynamics and Strategies in Backyard Ultras 09:12 Personal Strategies for Endurance Racing 11:59 Managing Sleep and Nutrition During Races 15:01 Hallucinations and Mental Challenges in Long Races 18:02 The Experience of Breaking Records Together 20:50 Post-Race Recovery and Reflections 23:59 The Future of Backyard Ultra Championships 34:34 Nutrition Strategies for Endurance Events 41:05 The Importance of Crew Support 42:42 Training Structure and Endurance Focus 49:23 Peak Training Weeks and Race Preparation 56:43 Mindset and Mental Strategies for Success 01:03:23 Future Goals and Upcoming Challenges

Nov 1, 2024

In this episode, Jeff Garmire discusses the complexities and challenges of pursuing Fastest Known Times (FKTs) in ultra running, the current trends in the sport, and the upcoming award season. He delves into the intricacies of voting for awards, the importance of training philosophy, and the need for specificity in training for races. Jeff also shares insights on building speed and endurance, and looks ahead to future episodes with notable guests. takeaways FKTs require meticulous logistics and mental preparation. The Arizona Trail is seeing a surge in record attempts. Award season brings attention to various achievements in ultra running. Voting for awards can be biased and complex. Off-season is a time for athletes to focus on speed and recovery. Building speed is essential for improving overall performance. Specificity in training is crucial for race success. Nutrition plays a key role in recovery after long runs. Future episodes will feature top coaches and athletes. Engagement with the audience is encouraged for future questions. Sound Bites "It's interesting how it goes in waves." "Nick is doing the FKT. He knows what he's doing." "The more you eat, the more you recover." "I have some huge guests coming on." "Stay elite, my friends." Chapters 00:00 The Challenge of FKTs 02:53 Current Trends in Ultra Running 05:52 Award Season in Ultra Running 08:48 The Complexity of Voting in Awards 12:14 Training Philosophy and Off-Season Strategies 17:57 Building Speed and Endurance 23:55 Specificity in Training for Races 26:46 Looking Ahead: Future Guests and Questions

Oct 28, 2024

In this episode, Jeff Garmire shares his experiences from the Javelina race, reflecting on the community atmosphere and the challenges ultra runners face. He discusses his coaching role, race support dynamics, and the significance of the Arizona Trail for FKT attempts. Jeff also explores the planning for future races, the importance of motivation in endurance challenges, and the distinctions between unsupported and self-supported records. He wraps up with thoughts on upcoming events and personal reflections. takeaways Javelina is a unique event with a strong community vibe. Coaching athletes can be rewarding, especially in ultra races. The atmosphere at Javelina includes fun activities beyond racing. Planning for future races involves considering personal enjoyment over competition. The Arizona Trail offers two seasons for attempts at FKTs. Motivation is crucial for success in endurance challenges. Understanding the differences between unsupported and self-supported records is important. David Roach's performance at Javelina highlights his elite status in ultra running. The ultra running community is diverse and filled with inspiring stories. Future plans may include international races and new adventures. Sound Bites "It was really cool to reconnect with friends." "She actually came to me like seven or eight weeks ago." "It's really set up well to crew." Chapters 00:00Celebrating Birthdays and Javelina Adventures 02:54 The Atmosphere of Javelina and Race Dynamics 06:10 Planning for Future Races and Off-Season Training 09:02 Challenges of the Arizona Trail and FKT Attempts 11:57 Understanding Unsupported and Self-Supported Records 15:11 Ultra Running Awards and Notable Performances 18:06 Upcoming Plans and Halloween Reflections

Oct 25, 2024

In this episode, I dive into the rising trend of 'Did Not Finish' (DNF) in trail running. From my perspective as both a coach and runner, I explore how several factors are fueling this increase—like the draw of competition, the influence of social media, and the pressures of sponsorships. With financial incentives becoming more common, more athletes are taking bigger risks, which can often lead to DNFs. I also reflect on the mental side of racing, the importance of smart decision-making during events, and how social media impacts the way the trail running community views success and failure. Tune in as I break down the complex balance between ambition and sustainability in this ever-evolving sport! takeaways -The internet has contributed to more people quitting races. -Men are more likely to take risks in competitions. -Golden tickets for races create an addictive pursuit. -Increased sponsorships lead to higher competition levels. -Social media influences the way athletes approach their goals. -Visibility of success can lead to unrealistic expectations. -The pressure to perform can result in more DNFs. -Smart training and respect for the sport are crucial. -The media side of trail running is evolving. -Peer pressure can cloud personal motivations. Sound Bites "The internet has made more people DNF." "There's a science out there about risk-taking." "Getting a golden ticket is addicting." Chapters 00:00 The Rise of DNF in Trail Running 14:21 The Impact of Competition and Sponsorships 25:03 The Role of Social Media in Trail Running 28:27 Conclusion and Future of Trail Running

Oct 21, 2024

In this episode, Jeff Garmire discusses the inaugural Montana Meltdown race, detailing the journey from conception to execution. He shares the challenges faced in organizing the race, the experiences of race day, and reflections on the event's success. Additionally, Jeff opens up about his personal journey in ultra running, including setbacks and future goals, emphasizing the importance of listening to one's body and adapting training plans accordingly. takeaways The idea for the race originated in 2021 during a casual conversation. Organizing a race involves many logistical challenges, including budgeting and food selection. The inaugural Montana Meltdown race had a 100% finisher rate, which was a unique achievement. Volunteers played a crucial role in the success of the race. The experience of race day was filled with unexpected challenges and fun moments. Jeff's personal journey has been marked by both successes and disappointments in ultra running. Listening to one's body is essential for long-term success in endurance sports. Future plans include potentially organizing another race and exploring new personal challenges. The importance of community support in organizing events cannot be overstated. Jeff's experiences highlight the unpredictable nature of ultra running and race organization. Sound Bites "I decided I'd bring it up to Alice and my partner" "We probably will do it again next year" "It's a little scary to put something out there" Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Montana Meltdown 02:50 The Journey to Organizing a Race 06:07 Race Day Preparations and Challenges 09:01 The Inaugural Race Experience 11:52 Reflections on the Race and Future Plans 15:14 Personal Journey and Future Goals

Oct 18, 2024

In this episode, I interview Anastasia Wilde, an outdoor photographer specializing in race photography. We discuss Anastasia's journey into the field, the challenges of capturing runners in ultra races, the impact of social media on photography, and the complexities of copyright and usage rights. Anastasia shares insights on the business side of race photography, the importance of creative collaboration, and her editing process. The conversation also touches on the personal connections made with runners and offers advice for aspiring outdoor photographers. Follow Anastasia on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_anastasiawilde takeaways Choose something you really love to photograph. Feedback from runners and races is crucial for improvement. Social media has changed the landscape of photography. Understanding copyright is essential for photographers. Building relationships with race directors fosters trust. Editing is a significant part of the creative process. Capturing the essence of runners' journeys is rewarding. Proactivity is key in getting photography gigs. Team dynamics enhance creativity and output. Runners should reach out to photographers before using their photos. Sound Bites "I think choose something you really love." "You just have to check back in with a photographer." "I love working with teams too, because then we kind of push each other." Chapters 00:00 Breaking into Outdoor Photography 04:43 Navigating the Challenges of Race Photography 07:52 The Complexities of Photo Usage and Copyright 13:37 The Financial Realities of Outdoor Photography 16:33 Building Connections in the Photography Community 22:34 Proactive Approaches to New Events 24:22 Capturing Iconic Moments in Nature 26:33 The Art of Event Photography 29:32 Editing: The Creative Process 31:32 Developing a Unique Photography Style 33:21 Tips for Runners: Looking Good in Photos 36:34 Building Connections: The Photographer's Role 38:22 Advice for Aspiring Outdoor Photographers

Oct 14, 2024

In this episode of the Free Outside podcast, Jeff Garmire reflects on recent events in the trail running community, including the breaking of the Appalachian Trail record and the controversy surrounding Camille Herron. He discusses the impact of ego in the sport, the importance of competition and community, and shares personal insights on fatigue and goal-setting. The episode also includes listener questions and thoughts on future plans for the podcast. takeaways The podcast has grown significantly, reaching over 500 listens per episode. Recent events in trail running highlight the interconnectedness of the community. Ego has become a significant factor in trail running, affecting athletes' behavior. The controversy surrounding Camille Herron raises questions about integrity in the sport. Competition can drive personal growth and improvement in performance. It's important to celebrate others' achievements as they raise the bar for everyone. Personal experiences of fatigue can impact motivation and goal-setting. Listener questions provide valuable insights into the challenges faced by athletes. Future plans for the podcast include exploring new routes and races. The journey of podcasting has pushed Jeff out of his comfort zone. Sound Bites "The world doesn't really change." "Ego is not as big as the community." "Doping is one of those things." Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Podcast Growth 02:46 The Impact of Ego in Trail Running 05:13 The Controversy Surrounding Camille Herron 11:21 The Importance of Competition and Community 16:58 Personal Reflections on Fatigue and Goals 19:12 Listener Questions and Insights 31:47 Future Plans and Closing Thoughts

Oct 11, 2024

To inquire about getting coached email: jeff@freeoutside.com In this episode, Jeff Garmire interviews Jon Schwartz, who shares his experiences of thru-hiking the Pacific Crest Trail (PCT) and his unique yo-yo hike. The conversation delves into Jon's background, his early experiences with trail work, and how he transitioned into the world of thru-hiking. They discuss the challenges faced during the yo-yo hike, including navigating difficult terrains, weather conditions, and personal milestones. Jon reflects on the lessons learned throughout his journey and the importance of setting goals in the hiking community. In this conversation, Jon shares his intense experiences while thru-hiking the Pacific Crest Trail (PCT), including the physical and mental challenges he faced, particularly during a near-fatal hypothermia incident. He reflects on the motivation behind his adventures, the impact of COVID-19 on his journey, and the personal growth that comes from pushing one's limits in the wilderness. They emphasize the importance of adventure and the desire to explore remote places, while also discussing the changes in the outdoor landscape due to the pandemic. Follow Jon on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonschwarze/ takeaways John's early experiences with trail work shaped his hiking journey. The concept of a yo-yo hike involves hiking the trail in both directions. Setting realistic goals is crucial for long-distance hiking. Navigating challenging terrains requires preparation and adaptability. The importance of community and support among hikers is emphasized. Weather conditions can significantly impact the hiking experience. Physical and mental endurance are key to completing long hikes. Learning from others in the hiking community can enhance skills. Personal growth often occurs through overcoming obstacles on the trail. The journey of hiking is as important as the destination. Pushing through physical challenges can lead to personal growth. Hypothermia can be a life-threatening condition for hikers. The mental aspect of hiking is as important as the physical. Adventure is about exploring remote places that few have seen. COVID-19 drastically changed the outdoor experience for hikers. Preparation and adaptability are crucial for survival in the wild. The joy of hiking comes from both the journey and the destination. Motivation can stem from a desire to prove oneself. Experiencing nature can provide a sense of fulfillment and wonder. Thru-hiking can be a transformative experience that shapes one's perspective. Sound Bites "You are at a point where your brain is telling you these stupid crap." "I decided to go to trail skills college." "If you guys could do this I could do this." "I was like, fuck, like, just get over it." "I thought I was gonna die." "I just wanted to prove to myself that I was an athlete." Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background 04:10 Trail Work and Early Experiences 12:22 The Journey to Thru-Hiking 22:00 The Yo-Yo Adventure Begins 30:13 Challenges and Milestones on the Trail 38:05 Reflections and Lessons Learned 42:26 Navigating Challenges on the Trail 50:17 Surviving Hypothermia: A Close Call 56:30 Reflections on Accomplishment and Motivation 01:02:19 Experiencing the World During COVID-19 01:15:11 Pushing Limits: The Drive for Adventure

Oct 7, 2024

In this episode of the Free Outside Show, I discuss the recent achievements in the world of Fastest Known Times (FKTs), particularly highlighting Tara Dower's record on the Appalachian Trail. I reflect on the evolution of FKTs, the importance of community support, and how records are often built upon the efforts of previous athletes. I also share personal updates, including his recent stage race experience and future goals in the realm of endurance sports. takeaways Tara Dower set the fastest time ever on the Appalachian Trail. FKTs are built on the achievements of previous athletes. Good preparation and support are key to setting records. The number of FKTs is increasing, with many routes available. Women have set competitive records in endurance sports. Records often inspire others to push their limits. Community support plays a crucial role in achieving FKTs. Personal experiences shape the understanding of trail records. The evolution of FKTs reflects the growth of the sport. Setting a record creates a new benchmark for others. Sound Bites "Anything is possible with good preparation." "All these are on the shoulders of giants." "Records will continue to go down." Chapters 00:00 Celebrating Recent FKT Achievements 10:04 Exploring the Evolution of FKTs 15:51 Personal Updates and Future Goals

Oct 4, 2024

In this episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I take a deep dive into my experience at the Grand to Grand stage race, a grueling 171-mile journey through some of the most rugged and remote terrain in Arizona and Utah. The race is a self-supported, six-stage event that tests not just your endurance, but your mental toughness and resilience, as you carry all your food and gear on your back for an entire week. takeaways Packing light is crucial for long races. Medical clearance is necessary for serious races. Food planning can make or break your race. Embracing the adventure is key to enjoyment. Running with a pack requires practice and strategy. Mental resilience is as important as physical strength. Connecting with fellow racers enhances the experience. Heat management is vital in desert races. Post-race celebrations can be unexpectedly extravagant. Learning from each race helps improve future performance. Sound Bites "I was able to come out with second place." "It was really brutal. I learned a lot." "I had to get a medical clearance form." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Grand to Grand Stage Race 02:53 Preparation and Packing for the Race 06:03 The Start of the Adventure 08:55 Day One: The Challenges Begin 11:46 Day Two: Embracing the Experience 14:59 The Long Stage: Pushing Limits 21:07 Mid-Race Reflections and Strategies 24:53 Day Five: The Final Marathon 38:12 The Last Day: Finishing Strong 43:05 Post-Race Celebrations and Reflections keywords: Grand to Grand, stage race, ultra running, adventure, endurance, preparation, challenges, race recap, outdoor podcast, Jeff Garmire

Sep 30, 2024

In this episode, I discuss the importance of knowing when to quit in various aspects of life, including outdoor adventures and personal projects. I share my experiences of quitting the Superior Hiking Trail and Nolan's 14, and how those decisions led to more fulfilling experiences. I emphasize the need to have a strong why and to prioritize enjoyment and personal growth over external achievements. I also highlight the importance of recognizing signs of dehydration and knowing when to quit for one's own well-being. Takeaways Knowing when to quit is important for personal growth and fulfillment. Having a strong why and prioritizing enjoyment and personal growth over external achievements is crucial. Recognizing signs of dehydration and knowing when to quit for one's own well-being is essential. Quitting can lead to new opportunities and more fulfilling experiences. Sound Bites "We don't talk now about quitting." "I quit after three days and then I had three more days to explore." "There is such an importance in knowing when to quit and when not to." Chapters 00:00 Introduction: The Importance of Knowing When to Quit 03:53 Quitting the Superior Hiking Trail and Exploring 10:42 The Importance of Knowing When to Quit 19:44 Quitting as a Path to New Opportunities 24:43 The Benefits of Quitting 28:04 Success and Failure Defined by Fulfillment 31:53 Learning from Failure 33:48 Quitting for Personal Well-being Keywords quitting, outdoor adventures, personal projects, fulfillment, growth, why, enjoyment, success, failure, dehydration

Sep 27, 2024

In this episode, I answer questions from my Instagram followers, diving into topics like fast-packing gear, the thrill of ultra running, and the challenges of financing race participation. I share personal stories from my adventures on the trail, talk about my offseason training strategies, and reflect on the fears and challenges I face while hiking. The conversation is packed with humor and insights, making it a great listen for outdoor enthusiasts and aspiring ultra runners. takeaways Fast-packing combines running and backpacking for efficiency. Choosing the right gear is crucial for multi-day fast-packing. The adventure and unknown aspects of ultra running are appealing. Financing races can be managed through sponsorships and creative solutions. Offseason training should focus on intensity rather than volume. Heat training can be beneficial year-round for endurance athletes. Personal fears on the trail often revolve around safety and hydration. Humorous and relatable hiking anecdotes can lighten the conversation. Community support plays a significant role in endurance sports. Chasing goals is more important than worrying about failures. Sound bites "Fast-packing is a cross between running and backpacking." "I love the adventure of attempting something new." "The world is too big, chase your goals!" Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Audience Engagement 02:44 The Adventure of Ultra Running 06:35 Financing Race Participation 11:14 Offseason Training Strategies 14:58 Fears and Challenges on the Trail 19:00 Humorous Hiking Anecdotes

Sep 23, 2024

In this conversation, I talk with Allison Powell, my girlfriend and the winner of the Divide 200 about her journey from a casual runner to an ultra marathoner, detailing her experiences with training, racing, and the mental and physical challenges she faced during the Divide 200 race. She discusses the importance of nutrition, the role of support crews, and the lessons learned from her experiences. Allison also reflects on his future plans in ultra running and her interests outside of running, including community building and creative arts. Follow Allison on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/allisonhpowell/?hl=en The Barkley Marathons documentary inspired her ultra running journey. Training plans can be both beneficial and overwhelming. Mental resilience is crucial during long races. Nutrition strategies can make or break a race experience. Support from crew and pacers is invaluable. Adrenaline can help push through physical pain. It's important to adapt training based on personal needs. 200-mile races require a different mindset than shorter races. Community building enhances the running experience. Creative pursuits can coexist with a passion for running. Sound Bites "I just never felt so low in a race." "I think the only way to get better at them is to do them." "I did not know what that meant." Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Early Running Journey 03:08 Transition to Ultra Running 05:54 Training for 200-Mile Races 08:48 The Divide 200 Experience 11:45 Mental Challenges During the Race 14:50 Overcoming Physical Pain and Adversity 18:06 The Role of Support and Crew 20:58 Final Push to the Finish Line 23:53 Reflections on Training and Nutrition 26:51 Future Plans and Advice for Aspiring Ultra Runners 30:04 Personal Interests Beyond Running

Sep 20, 2024

In this conversation, I share my preparation for the Grand to Grand stage race, diving into the logistics, nutrition, gear, and mindset needed for such an endurance event. I emphasize the importance of meticulous planning, especially when it comes to managing food intake over the long stages. One of the unique aspects I'm looking forward to is experiencing a phone detox during the race, disconnecting from the constant noise and focusing entirely on the experience. Reflecting on my past adventures, I realize how much they've shaped my approach to this race. This time, I'm aiming to enjoy the journey itself rather than obsess over results. It's about being present, tackling the challenges as they come, and savoring the excitement of this new adventure. takeaways Preparation is key for endurance events. Nutrition planning is crucial for performance. Gear selection can impact race experience. Mindset matters; focus on enjoyment. Phone detox can enhance the adventure. Learn from past experiences to improve future performance. Caloric intake should match activity level. Adaptability is important in race conditions. Logistics can make or break a race experience. Embrace the journey, not just the outcome. Sound Bites "I'm excited to have six days phone detox." "It's okay to smile, have fun." "I think this is the last one." Chapters 00:00 Preparing for the Grand to Grand Stage Race 14:59 Nutrition and Gear Planning for Endurance Racing 21:48 Logistics and Mindset for the Race Adventure

Sep 16, 2024

In this episode, I share my recent adventure crewing Allison at a 200-mile race in Canada. I talk about my experiences as a crew member, the challenges we faced during the race, and the unique interactions with Canadian culture. I highlight the camaraderie of ultra running, the beauty of the Canadian landscape, and the humorous moments that arise during such intense events. I also reflect on the lessons I learned and the joy of being part of the outdoor community. takeaways The Divide 200 race is a challenging ultra marathon. Crewing requires a lot of guesswork and preparation. Canadian culture is characterized by kindness and humor. Pacing is an essential role in ultra running. Communication can be difficult in remote areas. The experience of crewing can be both rewarding and exhausting. Runners often face unexpected challenges during races. The camaraderie among runners and crews is invaluable. Cultural interactions can add a unique flavor to adventures. Post-race reflections are important for personal growth. Sound Bites "The race couldn't go into BC because..." "I went to the sauna two times..." "Canada is full of great sayings..." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Canadian Adventure 04:48 The Divide 200 Race Experience 10:02 Crewing and Pacing Insights 15:01 Canadian Culture and Interactions 19:59 Challenges Faced During the Race 24:57 The Finish Line and Reflections 30:03 Post-Race Adventures and Ticket Incident keywords Canada, Divide 200, ultra running, crewing, pacing, Canadian culture, race experience, outdoor adventure, hiking, endurance sports, comedy

Sep 13, 2024

In this conversation, I talk about my approach to taking on new challenges and the importance of trying new things. I share my training methods for different seasons, like skate skiing in the winter and focusing on strength and sauna training in the spring. I also dive into my experience running the Cocodona 250, where I had some issues with my Achilles tendon but pushed through to finish. For me, it's all about balance, adaptation, and finding enjoyment in the process of pursuing goals. I also discuss my experiences with injuries, my podcast, and my recent adventures on the Montana Meltdown and the Tahoe Rim Trail. I touch on the importance of doing PT exercises, the mindset that comes with fastpacking, and the value of embracing challenges and taking risks. My storytelling style, with its candid and humorous approach, keeps things engaging and relatable throughout the conversation. Check out Chad Lubinski's show , the home of the original content And Chad on Instagram takeaways -Don't be afraid to try new things and take on new challenges, even if you think you might fail. -Adapt your training methods based on the season and your goals. -Finding balance between different activities and training types can help prevent burnout. -Sauna training can be beneficial for heat acclimation and overall health. -Perseverance and problem-solving are key when facing obstacles during races or other pursuits. -Enjoyment and engagement in the process are important for long-term motivation and success. Consistent PT exercises can help prevent long-term injuries. -Fastpacking is about maximizing time between destinations and enjoying the journey. -Embracing challenges and taking risks can lead to personal growth and memorable experiences. -Failures are a natural part of life and should not deter one from trying new things. Sound Bites "Even if you're nervous or you think you might fail, it's always way better to just go and give it a shot." "Winter is where you can really level up your fitness game in the sense of raise that aerobic ceiling." "Sauna is like the magic thing." "Do your PT exercises. They actually work." "Fixed time races are really cool and engaging." "Fastpacking is like the best of both worlds." Chapters 00:00 Embracing New Challenges and Overcoming Fear of Failure 04:19 Seasonal Training Methods: From Skate Skiing to Strength Training 17:49 Sauna Training for Heat Acclimation and Overall Health 22:37 The Cocodona 250 Experience: Perseverance and Problem-Solving 26:30 Finding Balance and Enjoyment in Pursuing Goals 26:58 Overcoming Injuries and the Importance of PT Exercises 31:03 The Mindset of Fastpacking: Maximizing Time and Enjoying the Journey 36:02 Embracing Challenges and Taking Risks 48:39 Learning from Failures and Trying New Things

Sep 9, 2024

I want to share the story of my experience at the Wasatch 100 race, where I ultimately had to DNF due to both physical and mental health issues. Leading up to the race, I faced several challenges, including a friend dropping out as my pacer and feeling sick beforehand. During the race, I battled a high heart rate, breathing difficulties, and intense headaches. Despite my efforts to stay positive and adjust my goals, my condition continued to worsen, and I eventually experienced panic attacks and vomiting. In the end, I made the tough decision to DNF at mile 56. It's disappointing, but I'm reflecting on the importance of trusting my body again. takeaways Physical and mental health issues can greatly impact performance in endurance races. It's important to listen to your body and make adjustments to your goals and strategies when necessary. Sometimes, despite your best efforts, it's necessary to make the difficult decision to DNF for your own safety. Experiencing a DNF can be emotionally challenging and may require time to process and recover. Trusting your body again after a disappointing race can be a difficult but necessary step in moving forward. Sound Bites "Well, shit. Wasatch 100, the story of when I didn't trust my body anymore and my first DNF. Let's get into it." "So on the you have to fill out a form to DNF. I filled that out and it said, why are you DNFing? And I just put broken." "Okay, well I seem to be needing to find some more confidence, but I'm gonna do a stage race in two weeks because I'm signed up for one. And then at the end of October, I'm gonna do Havelina 100. So we'll try another 100 miler. But wow, did not think it would DNF this race. I thought I could." Chapters 00:00 Introduction: The Wasatch 100 and the First DNF 03:00 The First Signs of Trouble: Bathroom Issues and a Bad Attitude 05:02 Managing the Pace and Heart Rate on the Course 08:00 Struggling with Headaches, Breathing, and Heart Rate 13:32 Continuing with the Race: Topical Cooling and Adjusting Strategies 16:19 Worsening Symptoms and the Decision to DNF 29:34 Seeking Medical Help and Reflecting on the Experience 36:38 Looking Ahead: Recovering and Moving Forward

Sep 6, 2024

I am racing Wasatch 100 miler, so in this episode, I sit down with Joe Corcione to dive deep into the mindset and strategies that go into running a 100-mile race. We talk about the importance of finishing, even when things don't go as planned, because it's in those tough moments that we build resilience and belief in ourselves. Joe and I cover everything from pre-race prep—like resting the mind and setting intentions—to the race itself, where pacing and celebrating small wins become key. Sign up for our Race! Montana Meltdown on October 12th We also get into the mental game of ultra running, discussing how to embrace the inevitable pain and unknowns. It's all about accepting the pain as part of the journey and using it as fuel to keep moving forward. We highlight the power of having a strong "why" to push through those tough stages, especially during the night when things get primal and instinctual. And, of course, we talk about the importance of reflecting and celebrating after the race. Joe shares his process of breaking down what went well and what didn't, while I talk about my own post-race routine of sitting in silence and mentally reviewing the race. Joe opens up about his transformation from an unathletic partygoer to a dedicated ultra runner and coach, and I share a bit about my journey from a lucrative career to pursuing my passion for the outdoors. We wrap up by discussing the importance of exploring different activities to find what truly lights you up and then building that passion over time. Whether you're an experienced ultra runner or just curious about the mindset behind these incredible feats, this episode is packed with insights and inspiration. Joe Corcione: Podcast , Instagram takeaways -Finishing a race, even when it doesn't go as planned, builds resilience and belief in oneself. -Resting the mind and setting intentions before a race can help maintain focus and reduce anxiety. -Pacing oneself and celebrating small wins along the way can provide motivation and boost morale. -Having a positive mindset and embracing the challenges and pain of a long-distance race is crucial for success. -Having a strong why can help push through the mental and emotional challenges in the later stages of a race. -Tap into the primal, instinctual energy during the night phase of a race. -Taking time off and mentally preparing before jumping into the next race is crucial for overall well-being and performance. -Finding your passion is not about simply discovering it, but rather building it over time by trying out different activities and interests. -Personal growth and transformation are possible at any age, and it's never too late to pursue your passions. -Believing in yourself and having the willingness to learn and put in the work are key factors in achieving your goals and finding fulfillment in life. Sound Bites "I think there's such value in finishing a race, even when it doesn't go your way, because it just solidifies a belief." "Accepting the pain with open arms and running with it as if it's a pacer for you." "Remembering that you have conquered the unknown in the past gives you confidence to push through." "Using the night as a cue to tap into the primal, instinctual energy and remove yourself from human needs." Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Mutual Appreciation 04:29 Demystifying the 100-Miler 05:16 Pre-Race Preparation: Resting the Mind and Setting Intentions 10:01 Race Morning and Start: Pacing and Managing Expectations 21:34 Mid-Race Challenges: Embracing Fatigue and Discomfort 24:20 Embracing the Pain and Unknown 32:30 Tapping into Primal Energy During the Night Phase 41:06 The Power of a Strong Why 48:36 Remembering and Celebrating Accomplishments 49:01 Reflection and Celebration After a Race 52:34 Joe's Personal Journey 56:12 Jeff's Journey 01:00:50 Finding Your Passion 01:09:14 Believing in Yourself and Embracing Personal Growth

Sep 2, 2024

In this conversation, I discuss the concept of tapering in running, share my personal tapering strategies, and provide tips for preparing for a race or FKT (Fastest Known Time). I also emphasize the importance of having a crew plan, visualizing the race, and making decisions ahead of time. I highlight the variability of tapering and encourage athletes to find what works best for them. I conclude by mentioning taper tantrums and the need to stay consistent with hydration and nutrition during the taper period. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Explanation of Tapering 02:28 Personal Tapering Strategies 06:11 The Importance of a Crew Plan 09:28 Visualization and Mental Preparation 13:38 Consistency in Hydration and Nutrition 24:22 Dealing with Taper Tantrums takeaways Tapering involves reducing running volume and intensity in the weeks leading up to a race or FKT. Each athlete's tapering strategy may vary, and it's important to find what works best for you. Creating a crew plan and making decisions ahead of time can alleviate stress during the race. Visualization and mental preparation are key components of a successful taper. Staying consistent with hydration and nutrition during the taper period is crucial. Taper tantrums, feeling like you suck at running, are common during the taper period. Sound Bites "Tapering basically means you built up all this running volume and you are just coasting into your race." "Once you know how your body likes to taper and show up on race day morning feeling good, stick with it. That is magic." "Psychologically, it is a lot of, so I'm a very visual learner. I think we've been through that on the podcast before. I can remember scenes and things in my head." Keywords: tapering, running, race preparation, crew plan, visualization, decision-making, hydration, nutrition

Aug 30, 2024

In this episode of the Free Outside podcast, I’m sharing my experience on the Ruby Crest Trail with Airborne, a stunning 74-mile journey through Nevada’s rugged Ruby Mountains. The trail offers incredible views, from jagged peaks to expansive valleys. But it wasn’t all easy—unexpected snowfall added a serious challenge to the hike, making it both more difficult and more memorable. takeaways The Ruby Crest Trail is a beautiful and challenging 74-mile trail in the Wind River Range. Hiking the trail involves stunning scenery, including lakes and mountain ranges. Unexpected snowfall can occur even in August, so hikers should be prepared for changing weather conditions. Jeff also mentions his fantasy football draft and his upcoming race, the Wasatch 100. Sound Bites "Let's just dive into the Ruby Crest Trail because it was pretty awesome." "I did not pack enough, but I was going to be okay." "We woke up and then in the middle of the night, I'm woken up, waking up? I'm woken, I'm woke waking up." Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Setting the Stage 02:23 Hiking the Ruby Crest Trail 14:59 Challenges and Unexpected Snowfall 19:04 Repeating Miles and Recommendations 25:29 Conclusion and Fantasy Football Draft Ruby Crest Trail, hiking, Wind River Range, scenery, challenges, snowfall, fantasy football draft, Wasatch 100

Aug 26, 2024

A listener asked, so I answered. In this episode, I dive into the not-so-glamorous but absolutely essential topic of wag bags—those portable, sanitary bags we use to pack out human waste in the great outdoors. But don’t worry, I add my own humor and opinions to keep it interesting! Wag bags play a crucial role in responsible outdoor adventure, helping to keep our trails clean. I throw in some wag bag jokes, explore their history and evolution, and emphasize the importance of packing out toilet paper. And of course, I wrap things up with a few wag bag puns for good measure. Tune in for a fun and informative discussion that might just change the way you think about your next bathroom break in the wild! takeaways Wag bags are portable, sanitary bags used to pack out human waste when outdoors. They are an essential part of responsible outdoor adventure and help keep trails clean. Wag bags have evolved over time and are widely used by backpackers, mountaineers, and other outdoor enthusiasts. Packing out toilet paper is also important to minimize environmental impact. Wag bags are a convenient and environmentally friendly solution for waste management in remote areas. Sound Bites "Give your wag bag a little nod of appreciation. It's working hard to keep nature's call beautiful." "Why don't wag bags make good comedians? Because all their jokes are a little down in the dumps." "The term wag bag is often associated with waste alleviation and gelling." Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Topic Suggestion 02:24 What is a Wag Bag? 05:43 Benefits and Uses of Wag Bags 08:04 Wag Bags and Leave No Trace Principles 10:28 Packing Out Wag Bags: A Responsible Practice 19:26 History and Evolution of Wag Bags 23:39 Packing Out Toilet Paper 27:01 Wag Bag Puns and Conclusion

Aug 23, 2024

Sign up for Montana Meltdown: https://ultrasignup.com/register.aspx?eid=17896 In this podcast episode, I sit down with Aaron Barber to dive into his experiences in trail running and race directing. We chat about the challenges of racing in extreme heat, like the Circle of Hell and the Phoenician 50k, and explore international events like a hundred in the Philippines. Aaron shares some wild stories, including his unique hallucination experiences during races and the hurdles of racing in a different culture. Follow Aaron on Social Media: https://www.instagram.com/aaron.goes.up/ We also talk about how he got into trail running, his transition from road running and triathlons, and how he made his way into race directing. Towards the end, we offer tips and advice for anyone looking to break into the trail running industry. We wrap up by discussing the importance of putting runners first and ensuring a positive race experience. I believe trail running will continue to grow, with more competitive races and greater national exposure on the horizon. takeaways Aaron Barber shares his experiences in trail running and race directing He discusses races in extreme heat and international races Aaron talks about his unique hallucination experiences during races He explains the challenges of racing in a different culture Aaron shares how he got into trail running and his transition from road running and triathlons The episode ends with tips and advice for getting into the trail running industry Transitioning from one sport to another requires a shift in training mindset and approach. Volunteering and being involved in the community can lead to opportunities in the outdoor industry. Race directing involves logistical challenges and the need to prioritize the runner's experience. Trail running is experiencing growth and may see more competitive races and increased national exposure. Sound Bites "The Circle of Hell: A race in Phoenix in July with 110+ degree heat" "The Phoenician 50k: A brutal race with 11,500 feet of vert in Phoenix" " A hardcore 100-mile race in the Philippines with 33,000 feet of vert" "Volunteering, rubbing elbows, saying yes to giving someone a ride back to town. You never know who that's going to be." "Seeing elites or fast people in general at an aid station is such a huge bonus to runners." "Everyone shares the same start line and has to run the same route. It's pretty crazy that there's a sport like that." Chapters 00:00 Racing in Extreme Heat: Circle of Hell and Phoenician 50k 07:10 International Races: in the Philippines 11:55 Hallucination Experiences and Challenges in Trail Running 22:54 Transitioning from Road Running and Triathlons to Trail Running 22:54 Tips and Advice for Getting into the Trail Running Industry 24:49 Transitioning from Triathlon to Trail Running 31:29 Becoming a Race Director 32:57 Dealing with Fires and Route Changes 39:08 Working at Aravipa and the Future of Trail Running Buy Merch to support: https://www.freeoutside.com/shop Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside trail running, race directing, extreme heat, international races, hallucinations, challenges, transition, trail running, race directing, outdoor industry, career advice, challenges, putting runners first, growth, aravipa running, mountain outpost

Aug 19, 2024

Sign up for Montana Meltdown: https://ultrasignup.com/register.aspx?did=117574 In this episode, I discuss recent trail running records broken, the importance of running your own race, the concept of working consistently rather than harder, and the upcoming race Montana Meltdown. I also share personal stories of falling, hurting my hands, and encounters with wildlife while running. takeaways David Roach broke the 19-year record in the Leadville 100 race. Running your own race is important in long-distance events. Jeff Browning is experimenting with low carb fueling in contrast to the high carb trend. Tara Dower is attempting to set the overall FKT on the Appalachian Trail. Consistency is key in achieving long-term goals. The Montana Meltdown race offers an opportunity to push yourself and see how far you can go in a fixed time period. Sound Bites "Real-time podcasting: 24-hour turnaround." "The importance of running your own race." "Jeff Browning's experiment with low carb fueling." Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Real-Time Podcasting 01:27 Breaking Records and Running Your Own Race 04:42 The Low Carb Fueling Experiment 07:03 Chasing the Appalachian Trail FKT 17:01 The Power of Consistency 23:07 Pushing Your Limits at the Montana Meltdown keywords : trail running, records, Leadville 100, FKT, David Roach, running your own race, Jeff Browning, high carb fueling, Tara Dower, Appalachian Trail, consistency, Montana Meltdown

Aug 16, 2024

Today, we discuss two topics: training philosophy and finding one's career path. I share my insights on training theory, including the importance of different effort levels, the benefits of cold plunges and sauna work, and the progression from least specific to most specific training. I also share my personal journey of finding a career path, which involved exploring different industries, gaining exposure through various projects, valuing interpersonal connections, and giving back. Takeaways -Training theory involves different effort levels, from easy to hard, and progresses from least specific to most specific training. -Cold plunges can be beneficial for recovery, but may skip steps in the recovery process, while sauna work has few drawbacks. -Finding one's career path involves exploring different industries, gaining exposure through various projects, and valuing interpersonal connections. -When approaching brands for sponsorship, it's important to show how you can help them sell their products and to have a purpose and plan for the future. -Giving back and valuing the community and connections in your field can be just as important as having a large audience or impressive accomplishments. Sound Bites "Cold plunge can be really good for recovery, but it makes you skip a couple steps." "Most of your time at that Z1 effort level and then some of it pushing really hard." "Throw things at the wall and see what sticks." Chapters 00:00 Exploring Training Philosophy and Theory 09:00 The Benefits and Drawbacks of Cold Plunges and Sauna Work 19:52 Finding Your Career Path: A Personal Journey 28:43 Approaching Brands for Sponsorship: How to Stand Out 32:20 The Importance of Giving Back and Valuing Interpersonal Connections

Aug 12, 2024

Today we interview Derrick Lytle, who has been a staple at most big trail running events, tackled ultras himself and even gone after the Arizona Trail FKT. Follow Derrick online: https://www.instagram.com/derricklytle/?hl=en Derrick Lytle is a videographer and photographer who got his start in video production by shooting paintball videos. He later transitioned to capturing trail running footage and found a passion for storytelling through visual journalism. He discusses his experiences in the trail running community, including his attempts at the Arizona Trail FKT. Lytle also shares his thoughts on nutrition in endurance sports, emphasizing the importance of fueling appropriately for the level of intensity and duration of the activity. In this conversation, we discuss the topics of fat adaption and fat burning in ultrarunning, the importance of individualized nutrition strategies, and the challenges and rewards of stage racing and bikepacking. We also share stories of their adventures, including a terrifying experience on dangling ladders in Mexico. Takeaways Derek Lytle started his career in video production by shooting paintball videos and later transitioned to capturing trail running footage. He emphasizes the importance of storytelling in his work and how it has evolved from a hobby to a career. Lytle discusses his experiences in the trail running community and the challenges of balancing work and personal goals. He shares his thoughts on nutrition in endurance sports, highlighting the need to fuel appropriately for the level of intensity and duration of the activity. Ultrarunners are likely burning more fat than they think, even during high-intensity efforts. Individualized nutrition strategies are crucial for success in endurance events. Stage racing offers a unique challenge of pacing oneself and managing nutrition over multiple days. Bikepacking allows for greater distance and exploration compared to hiking or running. Creating and completing self-designed routes can be fulfilling and rewarding. Adventure activities often involve calculated risks and require problem-solving skills. Safety standards may vary in different countries and outdoor activities. Connecting with the running and outdoor community can enhance the overall experience. Sound Bites "I wear a lot of hats, but the main thing would be making videos, taking photos." "I think more than anything, it was just like learning to tell stories." "To shoot something and make it good, I feel like you have to do that sport for the most part." "All ultrarunners are burning fat to a certain extent." "Your body is naturally going to be in a fat burning state versus high glucose burning." "No one winning or doing well at these races shows up and does 100 grams of carbs an hour for the first time." Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Derek Lytle's Career in Video Production 05:19 The Power of Storytelling in Visual Journalism 13:19 The Importance of Immersion in the Sport for Capturing Footage 18:07 Fueling Appropriately for Endurance Sports 29:46 Fat Adaption and Fat Burning in Ultrarunning 32:11 Individualized Nutrition Strategies 35:01 The Importance of Accurate Fueling 36:27 The Challenges of Stage Racing 38:49 The World of Bikepacking 43:38 The Fulfillment of Creating and Completing Self-Designed Routes 52:46 Adventure and Risk-Taking 57:28 Connecting with the Running and Outdoor Community Keywords: Derek Lytle, videographer, photographer, video production, paintball, trail running, storytelling, visual journalism, Arizona Trail, FKT, nutrition, endurance sports, fat adaption, fat burning, ultrarunning, nutrition strategies, stage racing, bikepacking, adventure, Mexico

Aug 9, 2024

In this episode, I discuss various topics, including Joe Stringbean McConaughey's attempt to break my unsupported record on the John Muir Trail, the concept of Fastest Known Times (FKTs), and some funny observations about the Olympics. I also talk about the decision to pull out of a race due to mental fatigue and share my experience participating in a beer mile. The episode concludes with a discussion about the Olympics and astronauts stuck in space. Takeaways The John Muir Trail is a challenging trail to set a record on due to the difficulty of figuring out a sleep strategy. FKT stands for Fastest Known Time and refers to trail records that can be broken by other athletes. I decided to pull out of a race due to mental fatigue and not feeling mentally invested in racing. Participating in a beer mile can be a fun and competitive activity. Being stuck in space for an extended period of time would require finding ways to stay occupied and possibly learn new skills. The Fun and Competitive Nature of a Beer Mile Deciding to Pull Out of a Race Due to Mental Fatigue "The John Muir Trail is a challenging trail to set a record on due to the difficulty of figuring out a sleep strategy." "FKT stands for Fastest Known Time and refers to trail records that can be broken by other athletes." Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Solo Cast 01:16 The John Muir Trail and Sleep Strategy 02:13 Understanding FKTs and Trail Records 11:14 Deciding to Pull Out of a Race 21:48 The Fun of a Beer Mile 24:54 Finding Inspiration in the Olympics 26:21 Imagining Being Stuck in Space Keywords Joe Stringbean McConaughey, John Muir Trail, unsupported record, Fastest Known Times, FKTs, Olympics, mental fatigue, beer mile, astronauts

Aug 5, 2024

In this episode, I share some of my hitchhiking stories, including a memorable ride with a woman who claimed to be a descendant of the lost princess Anastasia. I also talk about my experiences hiking the Ouachita Trail and the Ozark Highland Trail, as well as my coaching and upcoming race. I reflect on the importance of taking risks and going after goals, even if they don't always work out. Sound Bites "Let's get into some hitchhiking stories." "Fast and wrong is still fast." Takeaways Taking risks and going after goals is important, even if they don't always work out. Hitchhiking can lead to unique and memorable experiences. Jeff has a passion for coaching and helping others achieve their goals. He is preparing for the Wasatch 100 race. Jeff enjoys sharing his adventures and stories with his audience. Chapters 00:00 Memorable Hitchhiking Stories 09:38 Hiking the Ouachita Trail and Ozark Highland Trail 13:08 The Importance of Taking Risks 16:15 Passion for Coaching and Helping Others 17:19 Preparing for the Wasatch 100 Race 23:14 Sharing Adventures and Stories Keywords: hitchhiking, stories, Ouachita Trail, Ozark Highland Trail, coaching, race, taking risks

Aug 2, 2024

Jameson Collins set the supported FKT on the Oregon Coast Trail, a 450-mile trail, in six and a half days. We talked to him about how the record went, how he hallucinated, and why he wore two different watches. The Oregon Coast Trail consists of running on flat white beaches, crossing inlets, and timing tides correctly. Collins had to adjust his plans due to unforeseen circumstances, such as missing tide windows and strong headwinds. He experienced hallucinations but pushed through and had a strong finish. Despite setbacks, Collins successfully completed the trail and set a new record. We also discuss Jameson's passion for outdoor clothing and his company, Houda Trail , which specializes in custom-made apparel using Polartek Alpha Direct fabric. We also mention the rumor of a 200-mile race coming to the Wasatch near Salt Lake City. Takeaways Jameson Collins set the supported FKT on the Oregon Coast Trail in six and a half days. He faced challenges such as missed tide windows and strong headwinds. Collins experienced hallucinations but persevered and had a strong finish. Sound Bites "Why did you wear two different watches on the trail?" "I wore a second one just so I have two tracks run it basically because I didn't have any other way to record it." "The record seemed like pretty soft to me. It was like seven days, 17 hours or something. And I was like, I don't know, that seems like pretty doable." "I was like, we got to get there to where he camped when he leaves. then me and him are basically racing. I'm racing his ghost of the finish line, you know, and we made it to where he camped at the time he left that morning. And I was like, I got I think I could do this faster than him. I just have to do this faster than him. Totally." "We should be able to get that, you know, we should be able to get it for sure. It might be close, but like, we'll get it. Yeah. Okay. So then now through the final miles, are you just like ecstatic or are you just trying to hold on or where's your head out after being out there six plus days? Um, it was, no, it was like pretty, it was pretty good. It was, I wasn't like in, I mean, I was in pretty rough shape until we got to Brookings and then" "Yeah, totally. No, I looked pretty rough. Like people were concerned about me. Like when I was coming through town for sure, I couldn't. Thomas was really I couldn't like figure out what traffic was doing anymore. Just kind of try to run out into the middle like cross, you know, crosswalks and stuff. And he was doing a really good job at like letting me know and actually like stopping traffic and stuff for me. But like I felt like I really had it together, but I probably didn't. Yeah, totally." Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Rumor of a 200-Mile Race 01:25 Introduction to Jameson Collins and the Oregon Coast Trail FKT 03:22 Wearing Two Watches for Redundancy 06:42 Choosing the Oregon Coast Trail for the FKT Attempt 14:40 Challenges and Adjustments on the Trail 23:00 Perseverance and Strong Finish 27:10 Racing against a ghost 28:02 Final miles and physical condition 29:24 Concerns and physical toll 30:42 Physical effects of the race 32:30 Stats of the Oregon Coast Trail FKT 34:38 Unlocking new possibilities 35:31 Accidental entry into the world of trail running 36:25 Discovering Alpha Direct fabric 37:35 Starting Whoa Trail 46:48 Upcoming races and future plans 50:30 Continuing with solo episodes and guest interview Keywords Oregon Coast Trail, FKT, supported FKT, trail running, tides, pack rafting, hallucinations, record, Jeff Garmire, FKT, Oregon Coast Trail, challenges, sleep deprivation, physical discomfort, confidence, long-distance races, Whoa Trail, outdoor clothing, Polartek Alpha Direct fabric, upcoming races, pushing limits

Jul 29, 2024

I interview Morgan Elliott, a runner specializing in short and fast races. We discuss the mindset of redlining during a race and how to determine if it's going to be a good day. We also talk about vertical kilometers (VKs) and the intense physical and mental challenges they present. Morgan shares his experience of representing the USA in international races and the camaraderie among team members. We also touch on the topic of DNFs (Did Not Finish) and the different motivations behind dropping out of a race. In this conversation, Morgan discusses his experience racing in Europe, his training strategies, and his favorite distances and types of running. He talks about the camaraderie and strategy involved in team races, the importance of recovery and preventing injuries, and the thrill of racing in challenging conditions. Takeaways Redlining during a race means pushing yourself to the limit and knowing that you have to give it your all from the start. In VK races, the first few minutes are crucial, and it's important to pace yourself and not go out too hard. Representing your country in international races is a special experience, and it's important to give it your best and be proud of wearing the national team uniform. DNFs (Did Not Finish) are a personal decision, and while some athletes drop out due to injuries or financial considerations, others choose to push through and finish the race. The camaraderie among runners, whether in the front or back of the pack, is inspiring and creates a sense of community in the sport. Racing in Europe offers a unique atmosphere with enthusiastic spectators and low-key but talented competitors. Camaraderie and strategy play a significant role in team races, while individual strategies are more common in shorter races. Recovery and injury prevention are crucial in maintaining a consistent training schedule. Racing in challenging conditions can be both thrilling and advantageous, as it can unsettle competitors and provide a mental edge. Morgan's favorite distances are three to five hours, and he enjoys technical trails with difficult footing. He is attracted to races with steep climbs and enjoys the challenge of using his hands during the run. Morgan's favorite races include Zagama and Transvulcania, which offer diverse terrain and unique cultural experiences. He is always learning and adapting his training approach, and he plans to focus on shorter races in the upcoming year. Training includes interval workouts, such as tough hill days, to improve his speed and endurance. He embraces the opportunity to race against top competitors and believes in learning from every race experience. Goals for the future include participating in the Skyrunning World Series and completing a 120-mile loop in Summit County, Colorado. Sound Bites "Race when you have a full deck." "You're redlining from minute 10." "If you don't go out four minute miles, you're not going to be in the frame." "There are so many low-key badasses that show up to European races." "I love it when people are like looking at the weather and like, oh man, it's going to rain during a race. I'm like, yes. Anything that can get in the heads of my competitors." "I did a lot of Hill workouts. I call them tough Hill days and they are mean." Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Redlining 02:18 The Challenge of Vertical Kilometers 04:13 Race Strategy and Going Out Too Hard 09:04 Representing Your Country in International Races 16:40 The Decision to DNF: Personal Choices 19:36 The Camaraderie Among Runners 28:14 Racing in Europe: Enthusiastic Spectators and Low-Key Competitors 29:12 Camaraderie and Strategy in Team Races 30:05 Recovery and Injury Prevention in Training 31:03 Thriving in Challenging Conditions 39:18 Favorite Distances and Types of Running 41:43 Favorite Races: Zagama and Transvulcania 45:36 Adapting Training Approaches and Goals 48:27 Interval Workouts: Tough Hill Days 55:14 Embracing Competition and Learning from Every Race 56:12 Future Goals: Skyrunning World Series and Summit County Loop Keywords running, redlining, race strategy, vertical kilometers, representing your country, DNFs, racing, Europe, training, camaraderie, strategy, recovery, injuries, challenging conditions, favorite races, goals

Jul 26, 2024

Sign up for our race: https://ultrasignup.com/register.aspx?eid=17896 I’m here to share the story of my latest adventure on the Tahoe Rim Trail. Just 12 hours after a self-extraction from my FKT attempt, I’m ready to give you an unfiltered, behind-the-scenes look at what went wrong and why. From gut-wrenching nausea to a busted running pack and even a yellow jacket sting, this attempt turned into a comedy of errors. I’ll take you through the highs and lows, the unexpected challenges, and what it’s like to push your limits, even when the odds are stacked against you. I’ll share the details of my preparation, my strategy, and the moment-to-moment experiences that defined this journey. Despite the setbacks, this attempt was a powerful reminder of why I love the challenge and adventure of FKTs. Whether you're an ultrarunner, a thru-hiker, or someone who loves a good adventure story, this episode has something for you. Tune in to hear about the grit, determination, and sometimes sheer stubbornness it takes to go after the fastest known time. Listen, subscribe, and leave a review if you enjoyed this episode. And remember, take those big swings and go for the hard things – it’s always worth it. Stay elite, my friends! Takeaways Taking on challenging endeavors involves risks and the possibility of failure. Even when faced with setbacks and obstacles, it's important to keep pushing forward and try to find solutions. Sometimes, despite our best efforts, things don't go as planned and we have to accept the outcome. Failure should not discourage us from taking future risks and pursuing new adventures. Sound Bites "Let's get into the attempt." "Sometimes things happen. You're going for literally the fastest time ever. So gotta take risks." "Sometimes things happen. You're going for literally the fastest time ever. So gotta take risks." Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background 02:14 The Attempt Begins 09:11 Stomach Issues and Setbacks 17:27 Pack Failure and Despair 28:29 Reflecting on Failure and Lessons Learned 37:10 Conclusion and Encouragement Keywords Tahoe Rim Trail, FKT, fastest known time, pack failure, challenges, disappointment, risk-taking

Jul 22, 2024

Sign up for our race! https://ultrasignup.com/register.aspx?did=117574 In this episode, we discuss the Montana Meltdown and the benefits of fixed-time races. I also share my experience participating in the Scummy Summer Slammer event and my preparation for the Tahoe Rim Trail FKT attempt. I discuss the importance of emotional connection in race planning and FKTs and share my unique approach to race planning. Takeaways Fixed time races unlock mileage and build confidence in athletes. The Scummy Summer Slammer event is a grassroots, low-cost run from Bozeman to Yellowstone. Emotional connection is important in planning races and FKT attempts. Jeff's unique approach to race planning involves starting with the 'why' and then focusing on the 'how'. Jeff is preparing for the Tahoe Rim Trail FKT attempt and is looking forward to the adventure and pushing his body. Jeff's Unique Approach to Race Planning Preparing for the Tahoe Rim Trail FKT Attempt Sound Bites "Fixed time races unlock mileage and build confidence." "The Scummy Summer Slammer: A grassroots, low-cost run from Bozeman to Yellowstone." "Jeff's unique approach to race planning: starting with the 'why' and then focusing on the 'how'." Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Sponsor Announcement 01:28 The Benefits of Fixed Time Races 07:09 Scummy Summer Slammer: A Grassroots Event 08:36 Preparing for the Tahoe Rim Trail FKT 19:15 Challenges and Goals for the FKT Attempt 25:23 Building a Strong Community with Free Outside Races Keywords race organizing, fixed time races, Montana Meltdown, Scummy Summer Slammer, Tahoe Rim Trail, FKT, emotional connection, race planning

Jul 19, 2024

We have started a race! Sign up for the Montana Meltdown, the premiere new fixed time race in Bozeman, Montana: https://ultrasignup.com/register.aspx?did=117574 In this conversation, I interview Mika Thewes, an experienced ultrarunner who has completed multiple 200-mile races. We discuss Mika's journey into ultrarunning, her experiences in races like Bigfoot and Tahoe, and her recovery from the Cocodona 250. Mika shares her low-tech approach to race planning and her focus on time goals rather than competition. We Talk some volunteering and race scheduling. Follow Mika on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sugarcrashvegan Takeaways Mika Thewes is an experienced ultrarunner who has completed multiple 200-mile races. She got into running to get in shape and gradually transitioned to trail running and longer distances. Mika's favorite races include Tahoe and Bigfoot, but each race has its own unique challenges and beauty. She takes a low-tech approach to race planning, using handwritten sheets of paper to track aid stations and estimated times. Mika focuses on time goals rather than competition, racing against herself and pushing her limits. We talk about the challenges faced during races and goals for future races. Mika Thewes explains how he manages to afford his racing through volunteering. The conversation ends with a discussion about Mika's upcoming race, T or des Géants in Italy. Animal Encounters and Volunteering Sound Bites "That stupid powerline switchback climb out of like, what was it, Blackpool or something? That was the worst." "I just decided to double the distance. I think I had run like eight miles of trails before I did a 50 mile trail race, like in total in my life." "It was the craziest like I could talk about that all day. I mean, spot-trackers were optional so a bunch of people weren't wearing them. People got food poisoning at the aid stations." "It is what it is. It was disappointing." "I mean, I understand everyone's concerned, because like obviously I'd be concerned about that too." "Yeah, that's hilarious. I mean, you were flying down from Elden." Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Race Announcement 01:08 Mika: A 200-Mile Expert 06:37 Getting Into Ultrarunning 08:34 Transitioning to Trails and Longer Distances 10:03 The Gnarly Challenges of Bigfoot and Tahoe 13:49 Dreams and Future Challenges 17:13 Recovery and Racing Tahoe 200 21:07 Racing Against Time and Overcoming Challenges 26:19 Challenges and Goals in Recent Races 35:36 Animal Encounters and Volunteering 47:47 Upcoming Race: Tor des Géants Keywords ultrarunning, 200-mile races, Bigfoot, Tahoe, Cocodona, race planning, time goals, determination, ultrarunning, races, challenges, goals, animal encounters, volunteering, Torre dei Giants

Jul 15, 2024

Buy a Make America Eclipse Again Hat: https://www.freeoutside.com/shop In this episode, I dive into some of the wildest animal encounters I've had while hiking and camping. From a heart-pounding close encounter with a moose on the trail to the adrenaline rush of being charged by a grizzly bear, I'll take you through these intense moments. I'll also share my run-ins with territorial goats and a funny story about a mischievous mouse that found its way into my tent. And if that wasn't enough, I'll recount a bizarre interaction with some drunk individuals while camping. Join me as I highlight the unpredictable and exciting experiences that come with encountering wildlife in the great outdoors. Takeaways Wildlife encounters can be unpredictable and exciting while hiking and camping. It's important to be aware of the behavior and characteristics of different animals to stay safe. Territorial animals like moose and goats can be aggressive if they feel threatened. Proper food storage is essential to avoid attracting wildlife to your campsite. Interactions with humans in remote areas can be unpredictable and sometimes uncomfortable. Sound Bites "I was literally charged by the moose." "I thought I was gonna get killed by a grizzly bear." "Territorial goats just like running at me." Keywords animal encounters, hiking, camping, moose, grizzly bear, goats, mouse, wildlife

Jul 12, 2024

Devin Ashby is a full-time YouTube creator in the backpacking and camping space. Check out his YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVyZtccA-oMchXHai-CJyPA His Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/backcountryexposure/?hl=en And His Etsy Shop: http://BACKCOUNTRYEXPOSURE.Etsy.com He makes videos reviewing backpacking gear, camping gear, and trip videos. Devin started his YouTube channel in 2014 and has developed a system for creating videos efficiently. He also runs a shop selling bags that he makes. Devin discusses the challenges of filming in public spaces and how he handles interruptions from passersby. He emphasizes the importance of spending time with gear in the field before reviewing it and providing an authentic experience for viewers. Devin also talks about the balance between giving honest reviews and maintaining relationships with brands. In this conversation, Devin and Jeff discuss the challenges and complexities of being an outdoor gear reviewer and content creator. They touch on topics such as the impact of free gear on the industry, the evolving landscape of media and influencer marketing, and the various revenue streams for content creators. Devin also shares insights on teaching backpacking and offers advice for aspiring outdoor content creators. Takeaways Devin Ashby is a full-time YouTube creator in the backpacking and camping space, making videos reviewing gear and sharing trip experiences. He started his YouTube channel in 2014 and has developed a system for efficiently creating videos. Devin emphasizes the importance of spending time with gear in the field before reviewing it and providing an authentic experience for viewers. He discusses the challenges of filming in public spaces and handling interruptions from passersby. Devin talks about the balance between giving honest reviews and maintaining relationships with brands. The prevalence of free gear in the outdoor industry can devalue the work of content creators and make it harder for the industry as a whole. The compensation for content creators on platforms like YouTube is often based on the number of views, which can undervalue their time and expertise. When balancing brand deals and product reviews, it's important to be transparent with the audience and establish boundaries. Teaching someone to backpack involves trip planning, understanding gear requirements, and packing efficiently. Consistency, authenticity, and enjoying the process are key to success as an outdoor content creator. Subscribers and views don't necessarily determine success; it's possible to have a fulfilling and successful content creation journey with a smaller audience. Sound Bites "I make videos for YouTube in the backpacking and camping space." "I also sew on the side if you want to." "You're filming YouTube on a Wednesday morning? Shouldn't you be at work?" "This gear is payment thing... doesn't pay money." "We're still in the infancy of where the type of media... is so prevalent." "Compensation is so focused on the number of views." Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Devin's YouTube Channel 02:42 Devin's Multiple Income Streams 06:14 Transitioning from Climbing to YouTube 10:13 Approach to Gear Reviews 12:24 Challenges of Filming in Public Spaces 19:14 Balancing Authenticity and Brand Relationships 25:42 The Impact of Free Gear 32:24 Revenue Streams for YouTube Reviews 37:01 Managing Reviewed Products 39:11 Teaching Backpacking 43:19 Favorite Backpacking Locations in Utah 46:03 Advice for Outdoor Content Creators Keywords YouTube, backpacking, camping, gear reviews, video production, public filming, authenticity, brand relationships, outdoor gear, gear reviewer, content creator, influencer marketing, revenue streams, backpacking, teaching, advice

Jul 8, 2024

I share my backpacking adventures and FKT (Fastest Known Time) attempts in Montana and Costa Rica. I encounter bears, moose, and challenging trail conditions. Then I tell the story of an FKT attempt. Despite initially missing the FKT record, I persevered and successfully set the record on my second attempt at the record on Cerro Chirripo in Costa Rica. I emphasize the importance of taking risks, embracing failure, and pushing oneself to unlock new achievements. 🌲 Recent Adventures: A quick out-and-back backpacking trip with a surprise black bear encounter. An intense fastpacking trip across Montana's Madison Mountain Range, complete with grizzly and black bear sightings, moose, and elk! 🏔️ Costa Rica FKT Attempt: My thrilling tale of attempting and finally securing an FKT on Cerro Chirripó, the highest mountain in Costa Rica. The challenges of navigating a foreign country's trail system, battling tough conditions, and overcoming near misses. Lessons in perseverance and the joy of embracing failure as a stepping stone to success. 👟 Training & Coaching: How my own training regimen aligns with the coaching plans I design for my athletes. Insights into balancing intense training sessions with the beauty of Montana's extended summer days. Stay elite, my friends! Takeaways Embrace failure and quitting as part of taking risks and learning Push yourself to unlock new achievements and distances Prepare and equip yourself properly for challenging adventures Enjoy the journey and the experiences along the way Sound Bites "Even if you fail, even if you quit, even if you don't make it, that does not mean you can't do it." "Unlocking new distances and achievements in trail running" "Embracing failure and taking risks in pursuit of goals" Chapters 00:00 Backpacking Adventures in Montana 05:02 Introduction to FKT Attempts 06:22 Living in Costa Rica and Discovering Chirripo 09:16 First Attempt at Cerro Chirripo FKT 14:05 Second Attempt and Setting the FKT Record Buy Merch to support: https://www.freeoutside.com/shop

Jul 5, 2024

In this conversation, I interviewed Brandon Wise, who also completed the Calendar Year Triple Crown. We discuss his experience with the Yellow Deli "commune", his motivation for attempting the Calendar Year Triple Crown, and the challenges he faced along the way. We also talk about the social aspect of thru-hiking and the importance of camaraderie on the trail. Support Brandon Weis' book "This is Gonna Hurt" about the Calendar Year Triple Crown: https://amzn.to/3XQzzRT And Follow Brandon on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/naturalhorsepower/?hl=en Overall, the conversation highlights the physical and mental challenges of long-distance hiking and the transformative power of the outdoors. Takeaways The Calendar Year Triple Crown is a challenging feat that requires careful planning and determination. Thru-hiking can be a solitary experience, but the social aspect and camaraderie with other hikers can greatly enhance the journey. Challenges and obstacles are inevitable on a thru-hike, but overcoming them can lead to personal growth and a sense of accomplishment. The Yellow Deli cult experience highlighted the importance of being open-minded and adaptable while on the trail. Writing a book about the thru-hiking experience can be just as challenging as the hike itself. Thru-hiking the Calendar Year Triple Crown involves hiking the Appalachian Trail, Pacific Crest Trail, and Continental Divide Trail in a single calendar year. Challenging weather conditions, such as blizzards and freezing temperatures, can be encountered during long-distance hikes. Camaraderie among hikers is a significant aspect of the thru-hiking experience, with shared struggles and bonding over shared experiences. The decision to pursue long-distance hiking instead of other life paths, such as attending law school, can be influenced by the desire for adventure, personal growth, and financial considerations. Future plans for hikers may include pursuing ultra running and international hiking, such as the Great Divide Trail in Canada or the Four Corners loop in the United States. Long-distance hiking offers a unique opportunity for personal growth, self-discovery, and a deep connection with nature. Sound Bites "You could say the Count of Your Triple Crown saved you a bunch of money." "Yeah, that was one of the weirder nights of my entire life." "I mean, we all had a lot of time and not a lot to do. I just put mine to some good use, I guess." "Humans were strange creatures because, you know, one of my favorite memories of the whole year is something that was pretty awful in the moment and like super miserable but I look back on it now and I can't help but smile every time." "Yeah, the hardest part's starting. You can always quit. It's not a big deal." "Yeah, gotta get my first one. Come on. Spent all my money on thru-hiking. It's the real trick. But it's worth it to spend on the experiences for sure." Chapters 00:00 The Challenges and Triumphs of the Calendar Year Triple Crown 06:42 Navigating the Yellow Deli Cult Experience 13:03 The Dual Challenges of Thru-Hiking and Writing a Book 23:57 Overcoming Obstacles on the Thru-Hiking Journey 26:45 Surviving Freezing Conditions: Tips and Tricks 27:36 The Calendar Year Triple Crown: Challenges and Recommendations 29:01 Thru-Hiking vs. Breaking Up the Trails: Pros and Cons 30:00 Physical Challenges and Long-Term Effects of Thru-Hiking 30:29 Embarking on Additional Backpacking Adventures 32:23 Favorite Trails and Recommendations for Hikers 33:21 Underrated Trails and the Beauty of the Arizona Trail 34:18 Life After Thru-Hiking: Career Choices and Future Plans 38:41 Finding Joy in Challenging Moments: The Magic of Thru-Hiking 41:32 The Power of Shared Struggles and Bonding on the Trail 42:02 Developing Deep Connections and Friendships on the Trail 43:30 The Journey of Writing a Book and Preserving Memories 46:35 Embracing New Adventures and Overcoming Fear of Failure 47:35 The Importance of Starting and Trying New Things 49:32 Exploring Local Trails and Future Hiking Plans Keywords Calendar Year Triple Crown, thru-hiking, Yellow Deli cult, challenges, social aspect, camaraderie, hiking, Calendar Year Triple Crown, thru-hiking, Appalachian Trail, Pacific Crest Trail, Continental Divide Trail, weather conditions, wildlife, camaraderie, challenges, decision-making, law school, ultra running, international hiking, outdoors

Jul 1, 2024

In this episode, I (Jeff Garmire) share the story of how 'Free Outside' was made. I talk about the challenges, including working with an unprofessional executive producer. We also discusses the process of filming the movie and the difficulties of capturing the essence of the trail while pursuing a record. I share experiences of premiering the movie and marketing it to audiences. I end the episode with a book recommendation and a game for the listeners. Takeaways The process of making a movie can be challenging, especially when dealing with unprofessional individuals. Taking matters into your own hands and doing things independently can lead to success. Filming a documentary while pursuing a record requires trust and coordination between the crew and the subject. Premiering a movie and marketing it to audiences can be a rewarding experience. Endurance by Alfred Lansing is a highly recommended book about leadership and survival. Games can be a fun way to engage with listeners and add variety to a podcast episode. Sound Bites "He commands his crew how they make it out and survive through a winter in literally Antarctica when nothing's really there, everyone thinks they're dead." "Sunglasses, essential, protective, facewear, what you really need out there." Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Updates 02:27 Challenges and Changes of Plans 05:51 Making the Movie Independently 08:18 Filming the Record and Trusting the Crew 10:14 Editing and Post-Production 11:42 Distribution and Premieres 13:09 Marketing and Audience Engagement 14:32 Book Recommendation: Endurance by Alfred Lansing 15:29 Engaging Listeners with a Game Keywords movie making, challenges, executive producer, filming, record, premiere, marketing, book recommendation, game

Jun 28, 2024

In this episode of "Free Outside," I, Jeff Garmire, sit down with Shelby Farrell, an incredible trail runner and FKT (Fastest Known Time) record holder. We dive into Shelby's impressive list of FKTs, including the Joshua Tree Traverse, the Backbone Trail, and an incredible attempt at the Long Trail Record. Shelby opens up about her journey into trail and ultra running, living the van life with her cats, and her meticulous approach to training and planning for FKT attempts. Shelby shares her experiences on the Long Trail FKT attempt, detailing the hurdles she faced, the unwavering support from her crew, and the unexpected moments that made the journey memorable. From enjoying different hot drinks at shelters to dealing with a panic attack and vomiting episode, she recounts the highs and lows of her Long Trail adventure. Additionally, we discuss the unique challenges that come with FKT attempts, such as unpredictable weather and battling sleep deprivation. I also talk about the filming of Shelby's journey and the exciting upcoming documentary on the Long Trail. Shelby and I share our thoughts on the fun aspect of costumes in trail running and the crucial role of community support in our sport. Tune in for an inspiring and candid conversation filled with insights and behind-the-scenes stories from the world of FKTs and ultra running. Takeaways Shelby Farrell is an accomplished trail runner and FKT record holder, known for her FKTs on the Joshua Tree Traverse, the Backbone Trail, and the Long Trail. Shelby got into trail running after running her first marathon and discovering her competitive drive. She gradually progressed to longer distances and eventually FKT attempts. Living in a van with cats allows Shelby the freedom to pursue her passion for trail running and explore different trails and FKT challenges. Planning and preparation are crucial for successful FKT attempts. Shelby utilizes spreadsheets, maps, and communication tools to coordinate with her support crew and stay on track. Weather and sleep deprivation can pose significant challenges during FKT attempts. Shelby has learned the importance of being adaptable and making smart decisions to ensure safety and success. The Long Trail is a challenging trail that requires mental and physical strength to complete. Having a supportive crew and pacers can make a big difference in a long-distance trail run. Unexpected moments and challenges can arise during a trail run, and it's important to adapt and overcome them. Filming a trail run adds an extra layer of complexity, but it can capture the community and camaraderie of the sport. Costumes and personal touches can add fun and excitement to trail running events. Building and supporting trail running communities is important for the preservation and maintenance of trails. Sound Bites "I have some exciting news to announce, but I'm not going to announce it yet." "Shelby has the Joshua Tree Traverse FKT Out and Back Backbone Trail One Way, which, crazy trail, and the Backbone Trail One Way." "I think after I ran my first marathon, getting the idea that, oh, I could run a Boston qualifying time was really intriguing." "This was a great experience. So we'll get to do this again and other cool things again." "I just got so nauseous. Like knew I was going to throw up, but I'm, I just ran 250 miles and I'm like, bundled up in this blanket." "I think it's going to show a lot of the kind of community side of doing something supported." Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Exciting News 00:56 Shelby's Impressive FKTs 05:13 Living in a Van with Cats 11:54 The Long Trail FKT Challenge 19:36 Balancing Support and Independence 27:40 Challenges and Adversity on the Long Trail 32:03 Challenges and Support on the Long Trail 34:30 The Unexpected Moments and Challenges 42:19 Filming the Journey and the Upcoming Documentary 50:59 The Fun of Costumes in Trail Running 53:23 Building and Supporting Trail Running Communities Keywords trail running, FKT, ultramarathons, van life, training, planning, weather, sleep deprivation, Long Trail, challenges, support, hot drinks, panic attack, vomiting, crew, filming, documentary, costumes, community

Jun 24, 2024

Want to go into depth on what it takes to get an FKT on one of the most competitive trails? In this episode, I dive into the world of Fastest Known Times (FKTs) on the John Muir Trail (JMT). I provide background information on the JMT, its significance, and the history of FKT attempts on the trail. I then share my own journey of attempting to break the JMT FKT, including the challenges I faced and the strategies I employed. I ultimately break the record by less than 13 minutes. I emphasize the importance of knowing oneself, setting micro-goals, and persevering in order to achieve FKTs. Takeaways -The John Muir Trail (JMT) is a 223-mile long-distance hiking trail in the Sierra Nevada mountains of California, known for its breathtaking scenery and challenging terrain. -FKTs on the JMT have a long history, with the first recorded FKT set in 1980. Since then, numerous athletes have attempted and set records on the trail. -I successfully broke the JMT FKT, completing the trail in 3 days, 47 minutes, and 56 seconds, less than 13 minutes faster than the previous record. -Achieving an FKT requires knowing oneself, setting micro-goals, and persevering through challenges and exhaustion. -FKTs serve as milestones and unlock new distances and challenges for athletes, pushing them to explore their limits and go after new goals. Sound Bites "3 days, 47 minutes, 56 seconds. I broke the record by less than 13 minutes." "It's those micro-goals, that 24-hour period, that knowing what's required... even if it was a bad day, a good day, whatever, you've unlocked that in your mind that you can go a new distance." "FKTs serve as milestones and unlock new distances and challenges for athletes, pushing them to explore their limits and go after new goals." Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Overview 01:00 - The John Muir Trail: Background and Significance 06:45 - My Journey to Break the JMT FKT 09:04 - Strategies for Achieving FKTs: Knowing Oneself and Setting Micro-Goals 15:45 - The Final Push: Overcoming Challenges and Exhaustion 23:05 - Conclusion and Takeaways Closing music by Rob Riccardo Buy Merch to support: https://www.freeoutside.com/shop Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutsideKeywords: Fastest Known Times, FKTs, John Muir Trail, JMT, endurance, hiking, Sierra Nevada, record attempt, perseverance

Jun 21, 2024

In this conversation, I talk with Cal Schwartzentruber and discuss experiences with thru-hiking and setting FKTs (Fastest Known Times) on various trails. We talk about the challenges and motivations behind attempting FKTs, the importance of planning and preparation, and the differences between the Appalachian Trail (AT) and Pacific Crest Trail (PCT). We also touch on the growing popularity of FKTs and the potential for more competitive times in the future. Follow Cal on Instagram: Takeaways Thru-hiking and setting FKTs require careful planning and preparation, especially when it comes to food and gear choices. The Appalachian Trail (AT) and Pacific Crest Trail (PCT) offer different challenges and experiences, with the PCT being more scenic and well-maintained. FKTs on longer trails often have limited competition, making it an opportunity for thru-hikers to set impressive times. The popularity of FKTs is growing, and more competitive times are expected in the future as athletes optimize their strategies and take advantage of advancements in gear and weather forecasting. Thru-hikers have a unique advantage in FKT attempts due to their problem-solving skills and ability to make decisions on the go. The choice between the AT and PCT is subjective, but many hikers prefer the PCT for its stunning views and more straightforward logistics. Sound Bites "There's always that, you know, uh, yeah, you just got a fucking record on some things, but you're like, ah, well, actually it's not actually that great of a record and I could have done it better and all these things." "The longer the trail is, I think the more competitive I am. But then you get into like, I would not probably be as competitive on like something like the PCT, but unsupported life. This is a niche that, um, there's not really any competition." "PCT is my pick. I would do the PCT over and over and over and over and over again. I loved that trail and the AT, I had a fantastic time. Wouldn't change anything about it and don't regret a second. However, I don't know that I'll ever do that one again." Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Discussion of FKTs 08:59 The Challenges and Motivations of Attempting FKTs 41:27 The Differences Between the AT and PCT 43:42 Closing Thoughts and Future Plans Keywords thru-hiking, FKTs, Appalachian Trail, Pacific Crest Trail, challenges, motivation, planning, preparation, differences, popularity, competitive times

Jun 17, 2024

This episode of the Free Outside Podcast explores the history and rise of 200-mile races, and pedestrianism. I share my personal experience with backpacking and the mental health benefits of outdoor adventures and then delves into the origins of pedestrianism in the 19th century, where competitive walking was a popular sport. We explain how 200-mile running races evolved from the Western States 100 and the Tevis Cup, and highlights notable races such as the Tahoe 200, Bigfoot 200, Moab 240, and Cocodona 250. I discusses the challenges, camaraderie, and immersive nature of these races, as well as the increasing popularity and high cost of participating in them. Takeaways 200-mile races, or 200s, have gained popularity in the ultrarunning community The origins of 200s can be traced back to pedestrianism in the 19th century Notable 200-mile races include the Tahoe 200, Bigfoot 200, Moab 240, and Cocodona 250 These races offer challenges, immersive experiences, and a sense of camaraderie Participating in 200s can be expensive due to race fees and logistics Sound Bites "I just got back from a backpacking trip. I just needed to get out." "I got my mental health reset with some backpacking." "Let's dive into the history of pedestrianism, the history of 200s." Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Personal Experience 02:20 The History of Pedestrianism and the Origins of 200s 10:46 The Triple Crown of 200s 22:15 Challenges, Camaraderie, and Immersion in 200-Mile Races 25:04 The Increasing Popularity and Cost of Participating in 200s Buy Merch to support: https://www.freeoutside.com/shop Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutsideKeywords200-mile races, history, rise, pedestrianism, Western States 100, Tevis Cup, Tahoe 200, Bigfoot 200, Cocodona 250, challenges, camaraderie, popularity, cost

Jun 14, 2024

We talk about filling out your dash, living a full life. Then I interview Liz Derstine, an accomplished trail runner and FKT (Fastest Known Time) record holder. We discuss Liz's trail name, her experience on the Appalachian Trail, her connection with Warren Doyle, and her transition to self-supported FKT attempts. Liz also shares her challenges with blisters, animal encounters, sleep deprivation, and hallucinations during her FKTs. She discusses balancing her running and music careers and expresses her love for long-distance trail FKTs. The episode concludes with Liz's recent FKT attempt on the Colorado Trail and her support for her friend's FKT attempt on the same trail after hers ended. Follow Liz on Instagram Takeaways Liz Derstine, also known as Mercury, is an accomplished trail runner and FKT record holder. She gained her trail name from a song she listened to while preparing for a practice hike on the Appalachian Trail. Liz's first through-hike and FKT attempt was on the Appalachian Trail, with Warren Doyle as her support. She was inspired by Jennifer Pharr Davis and Scott Jurek's books and attended a workshop by Warren Doyle to mentally prepare for the AT. Liz transitioned to self-supported FKT attempts on trails like the Long Trail and the Penhody Trail. She faced challenges such as blisters, animal encounters, sleep deprivation, and hallucinations during her FKT attempts. Liz balances her running and music careers, using her run commute as a way to decompress at the end of the day. She finds joy in long-distance trail FKT attempts and plans to continue pursuing them in the future. Liz also values the supportive nature of the trail running community and the willingness to help each other achieve their goals. Sound Bites "Jerry filled out his dash" "Fill out that dash" "How did you get your trail name?" Chapters 00:00 Remembering Jerry West and Filling Out the Dash 03:25 Getting the Trail Name Mercury 05:24 Connecting with Warren Doyle and Starting the Appalachian Trail 09:46 Learning and Preparing for the AT 13:33 Challenges on the Trail: Blisters, Animal Encounters, and Sleep Deprivation 18:54 Dealing with Sleep Deprivation and Pushing Through 22:17 Hallucinations and Mind Games on the Trail 25:08 Transitioning to Self-Supported FKT Attempts 30:27 Running Commute and Balancing Running and Music Careers 32:53 The Joy of Long-Distance Trail FKTs 36:42 Supportive Nature of the Trail Running Community 41:34 Last Person Standing Style and Overcoming Mental Blocks 43:56 Most Enjoyable Experiences: Swiss Via Alpina and Colorado Trail Keywords: trail running, FKT, Liz Durstein, Appalachian Trail, self-supported, blisters, animal encounters, sleep deprivation, hallucinations, balancing, long-distance trail, Colorado Trail Buy Merch to support: https://www.freeoutside.com/shop Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

Jun 10, 2024

Send in podcast ideas Jeff@freeoutside.com AI joins this podcast and conducts the interview, so we are going third person in the description. Jeff Garmire discusses his journey and experiences in long-distance hiking and ultra running. He shares how he got into these activities and the challenges he faced along the way. Jeff also talks about the importance of mental and physical preparation for setting FKTs (Fastest Known Times) on trails, as well as the role of nutrition and hydration in his training. He emphasizes the need to find fun and enjoyment in these activities and to have a strong why. Jeff also discusses the balance between solitude and connections within the hiking and ultra running communities, and the importance of finding a supportive community. He shares stories of unexpected moments on the trail and how he adapted to challenges. Jeff concludes by encouraging others to pursue their own adventures and to make a positive impact on individuals and local businesses. -Long-distance hiking and ultra running require mental and physical preparation, as well as finding enjoyment and fun in the activities. -Having a strong why and a supportive community are important factors in achieving success in FKT attempts and races. -Balancing solitude and connections within the hiking and ultra running communities can be challenging but rewarding. -Adapting to unexpected challenges and finding creative solutions is crucial in long-distance hiking and FKT attempts. -Making a positive impact on individuals and supporting local businesses can contribute to a thriving hiking and ultra running community. Sound Bites "I have this awesome idea and we're gonna try it." "Welcome to the show, Jeff. It's great to have you here." "Jamil Curry of Aravaipa Racing asked if I wanted to do the inaugural year of Cocodona 250." Chapters 00:00 Jeff Garmire's Journey and Experiences 05:33 Challenges and Triumphs in Long-Distance Hiking and Ultra Running 09:00 Preparing for FKT Attempts: Physical and Mental Resilience 12:23 Finding Fun and Inspiration in the Outdoors 24:39 Logistics and Planning for Successful Long-Distance Hikes and FKT Attempts 31:47 The Evolving World of Through Hiking and Ultra Running 35:03 Jeff Garmire's Message: Enjoy, Inspire, and Support Buy Merch to support: https://www.freeoutside.com/shop Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside Keywords long-distance hiking, ultra running, FKT, mental preparation, physical preparation, nutrition, hydration, balance, community, challenges, adaptation, enjoyment, support, impact, ultralight backpacking, backpacking, thru hiking, ultrarunning, Fastest Known Time, Speed Record, Appalachian Trail, Pacific Crest Trail, Arizona Trail, Continental Divide Trail, trail running

Jun 7, 2024

The conversation with Lloyd Vogel, co-founder of Garage Grown Gear, delves into the challenges and successes of running an e-commerce platform for small outdoor gear businesses. Lloyd shares insights on the state of the industry, the crossover between different outdoor disciplines, lessons learned from starting a business, and the importance of supporting small brands. The conversation also explores the process of finding and working with small brands, the impact of growth in the outdoor industry, and the strategic focus on ultralight backpacking. The podcast covers a wide range of topics related to the outdoor industry, including product innovation, market growth, the impact of outdoor activities on personal development, and the challenges of starting and running a business. The discussion also delves into the interconnectedness of various outdoor activities and the inclusive nature of the outdoor industry. This is a big episode from one of the biggest players in the cottage backpacking and thru hiking industry that also extends into FKTs, fastpacking, bikepacking, and trail running. Check out Garage Grown Gear Takeaways -Running a business involves embracing failure and challenges as an integral part of the journey. -The cottage industry is a source of innovation and creativity in the outdoor gear market. -Supporting small brands and fostering genuine relationships is crucial for sustainable growth in the e-commerce space. -Strategic focus and niche specialization are key to success in the competitive outdoor gear market. The outdoor industry is experiencing growth and innovation, with a focus on ultra-light gear and niche products. Personal experiences in outdoor activities can inspire product innovation and development within the industry. -The outdoor industry fosters a sense of community and inclusivity, with a shared passion for spending time outside. -Starting and running a business in the outdoor industry requires focus, patience, and the ability to adapt to challenges and failures. -The interconnectedness of outdoor activities highlights the similarities and shared experiences across different disciplines within the industry. Sound Bites "You can't just expect yourself to be perfect. You have to expect and know that failure and challenge is part of running a business." "The outdoor industry is having a hard time because everyone's kind of selling the same thing. It makes you generic, boring, and uninteresting." "For most of our brands, the only other place that you can buy it other than on their site directly is through us." "It's my responsibility to take those reflections and infuse them back into my other relationships." "Gear is always a reflection of the human desire to spend more time outside." Chapters 00:00 Embracing Failure and Challenges in Business 02:17 The Cottage Industry: A Source of Innovation 07:05 Fostering Genuine Relationships with Small Brands 26:22 Exploring Innovation and Growth in the Outdoor Industry 29:40 The Impact of Outdoor Activities on Product Development 41:47 Challenges and Rewards of Starting a Business in the Outdoor Industry 45:25 The Inclusivity and Interconnectedness of Outdoor Activities Buy Merch to support: https://www.freeoutside.com/shop Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside Keywords e-commerce, small businesses, outdoor gear, cottage industry, entrepreneurship, brand discovery, ultralight backpacking, growth strategy, outdoor industry, product innovation, market growth, personal development, starting a business, interconnectedness, inclusivity, backpacking, thru hiking, records, fastest known time, FKT

Jun 3, 2024

I answer the audience question: "I'd love to hear more about your mental health journey as an ultrarunner. This community is wonderful, but it's also cutthroat and I'd love to hear how you've navigated the ups and downs." Send in any questions at jeff@freeoutside.com I share my mental health journey as an ultrarunner, FKT'r, and thru hiker, discussing the struggles, experiences, and the tools to navigate the ups and downs. I reflect on my journey from depression and loneliness to finding fulfillment through immersive experiences, therapy, and community. The story emphasizes the importance of finding the right tools at the right time and the ongoing balance of personal and growth goals. Takeaways The journey through mental health is a bumpy road with ups and downs, but finding the right tools at the right time is crucial. Immersive experiences, therapy, and community play a significant role in navigating mental health challenges and finding fulfillment. Balancing personal goals with coaching goals and finding fulfillment through sharing and creating are essential aspects of the journey. Recognizing the need for drastic change and stepping back to eliminate certain things in order to move forward is a crucial part of the mental health journey. Sound Bites "I'd love to hear more about your mental health journey as an ultrarunner. This community is wonderful, but it's also cutthroat and I'd love to hear how you've navigated the ups and downs." "It's just as immersive. Like one goal is sitting out there. Life is so simple. You're going after this one thing. All your decisions point towards being successful." "I knew that that was the only option at the time, and in order to move forward, I needed to step back and eliminate those things and then build back up." Buy Merch to support: https://www.freeoutside.com/shop Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website : www.Freeoutside.com Instagram : thefreeoutside facebook : www.facebook.com/freeoutside Keywords mental health, ultrarunner, depression, immersive experiences, therapy, community, balance, coaching goals, ultrarunning, Appalachian trail, pacific crest trail, continental divide trail, Arizona trail, grand enchantment trail

May 31, 2024

I discuss Crocs, eclipses, a game called Deal or No Deal with trail running contracts, and an interview with Lil Buddha about his Pangea Traverse and bear encounters. I share share some news and experiences with crocs, including a 5k run and and Chris Howett's Guinness world record marathon . I discuss eclipses and play a fun game with Trail Running Brand contracts. I speak to Little' Buddha about his experiences as a long-distance hiker, his identity as a Hmong American, and his efforts to raise awareness and funds for the AAPI community. He talks about insights into his family's refugee journey and the challenges of planning and executing the Pangea Traverse. Follow Lil Buddha : https://www.instagram.com/lilbuddhahikes/?hl=en Takeaways Crocs can be a source of Guiness world records especially in the marathon. Eclipses are a captivating natural phenomenon The game 'Deal or No Deal' is played with the Trail Running Industry Thru-hiking and hitchhiking experiences are highlighted The Pangea Traverse, a 16,000-mile hiking endeavor, requires meticulous planning and funding, presenting logistical and environmental challenges. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Crocs Fascination 05:21 Passion for Eclipses and Outdoor Adventures 09:08 The Game of 'Deal or No Deal' in the Outdoor Industry 13:06 Hitchhiking, Through-Hiking, and Bear Encounters 38:04 The Pangea Traverse: Planning, Challenges, and Impact Sound Bites "I wanted to be in the community and be visible, right? As a person of color, as an Asian American living in the United States, that was participating in something that for the most part, most BIPOC people are underrepresented in." "My family, my mom, you know, she had to escape. So my father and mother were separated during this. My father was out fighting. My mom was still in the village with my brothers and sisters and me unborn." "I've got three years that I could, you know, put it all into hiking. So it'll take three years to complete the 16,000 miles." Keywords podcast, crocs, eclipses, game, interview, Pangea Traverse, bear encounters, through-hiking, hitchhiking, marathon, world record, eclipses fascination, long-distance hiking, Hmong American, refugee journey, AAPI community, Pangea Traverse, fundraising

May 27, 2024

In this episode we discusses various topics including FKTs, the Cocodona race, UTMB, doping in trail running, and the concept of power hiking. Also, some jokes written by AI and its thoughts on different generations. The episode ends with a book recommendation and a reflection on the significance of rocks. Takeaways Notable FKTs started this month. A PCT FKT attempt, an Appalachian FKT attempt and a new unsupported FKT on the Arizona Trail by Heather "Anish" Anderson. The Cocodona race is gaining attention and popularity, with its unique course and community involvement. UTMB (Ultra-Trail du Mont-Blanc) is considered one of the biggest and most competitive trail races in the world and is making a small step into drug testing in trail running Doping is a concern in trail running, and efforts are being made to address it, although the fragmented nature of the sport makes it challenging. The concept of power hiking in ultra running is debated, with some considering it a form of walking and others emphasizing its athletic nature. Humor and jokes related to ultra running and different generations are awful. A book recommendation, 'Itch' by Nick Fowler, is given. The significance of rocks, particularly 'ugly rocks,' is pondered. Sound bites "FKT's jokes ugly rocks this episode has everything" "FKTs on the Pacific Crest Trail and the Appalachian Trail. She's also written a couple of books if you're a book person." "There's even the influencer level of money in the sport" Chapters 00:00 FKTs, Cocodona, and UTMB: Exploring the World of Trail Running 03:45 Heather Anderson's FKTs and Book Recommendations 08:01 Addressing Doping in Trail Running 16:29 The Debate on Power Hiking in Ultra Running 23:04 Contemplating the Significance of Rocks Keywords FKTs, Cocodona, UTMB, trail running, doping, power hiking, jokes, generations, book recommendation, rocks

May 24, 2024

Don Reichelt, a Guinness World Record holder for running on a manual treadmill, joins the podcast. He shares his motivation for attempting the record and the rigorous process of setting a Guinness world record, including finding independent witnesses and providing video evidence. Don also discusses his approach to training and self-care, emphasizing the importance of strength training and mobility exercises. The conversation touches on the evolving nature of ultra running and the balance between competition and enjoying the beauty of nature. Don shares his experience running a sub-8 minute pace in a 100-mile race and the mental challenges that come with achieving a perfect race. He shares how he sets goals and pushes himself to his limits, as well as the importance of mental and emotional preparation. Overall, the conversation highlights the pursuit of challenging oneself and finding enjoyment in the process. Check out Don on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/runwithdon/?hl=en Takeaways Don Reichelt set three Guinness World Records for running on a manual treadmill Don emphasizes the importance of strength training and mobility exercises in his training regimen to prevent injuries and improve performance. The conversation explores the evolving nature of ultra running and the balance between competition and enjoying the beauty of nature. Don shares his experience running a sub-8 minute pace in a 100-mile race and the mental challenges that come with achieving a perfect race. Setting challenging goals and pushing oneself to the limits can lead to personal growth and a sense of accomplishment. Mental and emotional preparation are just as important as physical training for ultra races. Sound Bites "I was really just looking for a way to get a free treadmill." "Guinness has turned into more of like a marketing agency than anything these days." "I had no idea. It was hard physically, but I've never done anything harder mentally in my life." "What are the controlled ways that I can practice something that I'm going to have to do at a really tough level in Cocodona." "Why do we come out to this race when we both live where it's snowy? Because the heat just kills us each day." Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Setting the Stage 01:15 Running for Guinness World Records 04:26 The Mental Challenges of Running on a Manual Treadmill 10:59 The Importance of Strength Training and Mobility 13:20 Finding the Balance Between Competition and Enjoying Nature 22:59 Pushing Limits and Chasing Perfection 26:18 The Importance of Mental and Emotional Preparation 30:04 Training for Spring Races in Brutal Winters 32:29 Tiny Bench: Connecting and Sharing Stories 39:31 Memorable Runs: From Challenging Races to Special Moments Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside Buy a shirt to support future projects: https://www.bonfire.com/fastest-known-tiger Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFKeywordsGuinness World Keywords: Records, treadmill running, training, self-care, strength training, mobility exercises, ultra running, competition, nature, mental challenges, ultra running, training, Cocodona 250, goals, mental preparation, Tiny Bench, memorable runs, fastest known times

May 20, 2024

Summary Hallucinations are crazy! I also did no research on why they happen. But in this episode, I will share some stories of my favorite hallucinations during thru-hikes, FKTs, and races. Some of my best stories, and the ones I share include seeing a safari figure, witches, chicken feet, a pirate ship, and a robot embedded in a cliff. I also used Chat GPT to recreate the images which is especially fun. A quick update on my health and the Kendrick and Drake beef. Sound Bites "I've had some pretty good interactions with bears. Probably a good story for another episode." "I've never had any fear of bears. I've actually had some pretty cool interactions with bears." "Lately I've started plugging these into chat GPT and getting it to recreate the scenario or the scene that was in my mind." Takeaways Sleep deprivation during endurance races can lead to vivid hallucinations. Hallucinations can take various forms, such as seeing safari figures, witches, objects embedded in cliffs, and animals like bears. Recreating hallucination scenes using chat GPT can be a fun way to share the experience with others. Listeners are invited to share ideas for future podcast topics. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and NDA Misunderstanding 03:15 First Hallucination: Nolan's 14 Route 06:35 Recurring Hallucinations: Safari Figures and Witches 11:48 Hallucinations during Cocadona and Arizona Trail FKT 14:09 Hallucination of a Pirate Ship and Robot 23:30 Using Chat GPT to Recreate Hallucination Scenes 25:51 Upcoming Races and Last Person Standing Events Keywords hallucinations, endurance races, Trail running, ultrarunning, thru hiking, Pacific Crest Trail, John Muir Trail, Colorado Trail, Cocodona 250, running

May 17, 2024

Summary In this conversation, I interview Nick Fowler, a renowned thru-hiker and FKT (Fastest Known Time) record breaker. We discuss Nick's experiences with thru-hiking and FKT attempts and dive into his record-breaking Pacific Crest Trail hike. Nick shares his training approach and the challenges he faced during his PCT FKT attempt, including health issues and a hurricane. The conversation highlights the determination and resilience required for long-distance hiking and FKT pursuits. We talk a little bit about my own experiences on the Pacific Crest Trail (PCT) and the Pacific Northwest Trail (PNT). We also dive into the book that Nick wrote about the Pacific Northwest Trail record. Overall, Nick is just an amazing backpacker, thru hiker, and everything in between. Support Nick's book: ⁠⁠https://pntbook.com/⁠⁠ Takeaways Thru-hiking and FKT attempts require determination, resilience, and careful planning. Training for FKT attempts often involves strength training, long-distance running, and building up mileage gradually. Challenges during FKT attempts can include health issues, adverse weather conditions, and difficult terrain. Thru-hiking and FKT attempts are not only physical challenges but also mental and emotional journeys. He faced challenges such as difficult stream crossings, extreme heat, and physical ailments. He has written a book about his PNT FKT and plans to attempt more FKTs in the future. Sound Bites "I've always known about thru-hiking. I've always known about the Appalachian Trail and everything, but I never really gave it any thought until I started getting into big day hikes." "I started with running a half marathon a day in January, 2021. And then I bumped it up to a marathon a day with a couple of rest days a week in February, 2021." "I was struggling to open water bottle lids. I was drinking water out of trash cans." "I started off with 5,000 calories a day. And then by the time I got to mid Oregon, I was at 10,000 calories a day." Chapters 00:00 Introduction 02:03 Training and preparation for FKT attempts 03:27 Discovering thru-hiking and FKTs on the PNT 06:21 Building up to the PCT FKT 11:41 Challenges and adversity on the PCT FKT 16:02 Stuck in a cave during a hurrican 25:28 Setting Fastest Known Times on the PCT and PNT 30:08 Challenges and Strategies on the Trails 38:19 Gear and Food for Long-Distance Hiking 41:15 Writing a Book and Future Trail Plans Keywords thru-hiking, FKT, record-breaking, training, challenges, PCT, Florida Trail, trail running, running, ultrarunning, Pacific Crest Trail, PCT, Pacific Northwest Trail, PNT, Fastest Known Time, backpacking, hiking, thru-hiking, challenges, gear, food strategy, book, future plans

May 14, 2024

Summary The Cocodona 250-mile recap episode. The preparation, the beginning of the race, the middle of the race, and the end of the race. I could not do this without a great crew, pacers, and a great physical therapist on speed dial. Ultrarunning and ultramarathons are really a team sport and a screaming achilles made it even more so. Take a listen in on one of the premiere 200 mile running events and how it went for me from mistakes to triumphs. Also, Aravaipa is simply the best race directing organization. Sound Bites "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. It was Cocodona." "The mind was dialed and the body was ready to use the bathroom, much like every morning." "The line that's really long is the gear check oops and the tracker line." "We got a Janji runner on the Satisfy instagram BOOM" Takeaways Preparation is key for participating in a 250-mile race The start of the race can be chaotic with long lines and gear checks Aid stations play a crucial role and don't mess them up Challenges such as injuries can arise during the race, but determination and support can help overcome them The camaraderie among runners is a significant aspect of ultra-distance races Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Race Overview 02:02 Preparation and Start of the Race 03:54 Gear Check and Tracker Line 06:10 Strategies and Positioning in the Race 10:22 Dealing with an Achilles Issue 16:11 Challenges and Determination 17:00 The Coca-Cola Bathroom Break 21:00 Making a Mark on the Satisfy Instagram Page 30:00 Dealing with Torn Up Feet in Jerome 34:00 The Final Push and Depletion 43:00 The Finish Line and a Confusing Encounter 48:00 Final Thoughts and Call to Action Keywords Cocodona, 250-mile race, preparation, start, aid stations, challenges, Achilles issue, ultramarthons, trail running,

May 6, 2024

This is the intro to a big new podcast with me, Jeff Garmire, while I am in the middle of running the Cocodona 250. I share my thoughts on FKTs, trail running, thru-hiking and how I got started with it all, along with too long of a background on me. I tell you how to get into the Barkly Marathons and how to be a faster runner without having to run at all... just kidding. But this is the intro episode with the introduction of a few different stories of my life and please let me know what you would like me to expound upon and talk more about as these episodes keep going. Topics: Thru-hiking, FKTs, and trail running are interconnected sports and power hiking is just walking The journey of self-discovery and personal growth is a significant aspect of outdoor adventures. Having a supportive community and friends who share the same passion can make a difference in achieving goals. Cocodona 250: Conquering the Desert Chasing Fastest Known Times: Pushing the Limits Some special quotes: "I'll be running until like Wednesday." "How the heck did that even start? How did I become a backpacker that trail ran?" "I didn't even know I was a trail runner. I thought to be a trail runner, you had to literally run every step of every outing." Titles Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Preparing for Cocodona 250 08:24 Transition from Thru-Hiking to FKTs 15:12 Becoming a Trail Runner 27:44 Cocodona 250: A Brutal Challenge 32:03 Lessons Learned and Personal Growth