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Untangled Faith

Amy Fritz·102 episodes

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A podcast for anyone who has found themself disillusioned or discouraged in their faith journey and who wants to hold on to their faith while untangling it from all that is not good or true.

Why listen

Untangled Faith gives listeners a thoughtful place to process church hurt, spiritual abuse, deconstruction, and the hope of holding onto faith without ignoring harm. Host Amy Fritz brings personal honesty and guest conversations with authors, therapists, advocates, and faith leaders, so episodes feel both tender and clear-eyed. It is especially strong for Christians who feel disillusioned by institutions but are not ready to give up on faith, justice, or community.

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Episodes

57 min
May 19, 2026Episode 163
How A Relational Vision of Church Can Revolutionize our Faith Communities. Guest: Toni Daniels

In this conversation Toni Daniels from the Luke 10 ministry joins Amy to talk about a what she believes is the best way to approach building faith communities. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we talk about: Toni's ministry Luke 10. How salvation is the ultimate expression of secure attachment. How Jesus modeled a discipleship that wasn't about pointing out errors and correcting his disciples. How the CEO Business model has failed faith communities. The power of simply enjoying people. Featured Guest Toni Daniels Resources mentioned The Luke 10 Community The Jesus Led Book Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: [email protected] Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

59 min
May 12, 2026Episode 162
The Sacredness of Ordinary Connection with Matt Mattson

In this conversation, author Matt Mattson talks with Amy Fritz about the sacredness of ordinary connection in our everyday lives. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we talk about: The story behind Matt's new book Cathredrals of Connection The power of everyday encounters How to find connection even when you're not an extrovert First Watch and The West Wing Our need for both the institutional church and more nontraditional spaces for connection Featured Guest Matt Mattson Resources mentioned Cathedrals of Connection- The latest book by Shannan Martin Matt's website - Connect, learn more about his work Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: [email protected] Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

37 min
Apr 21, 2026Episode 161
Escaping The High Control World of the Duggars and the IFB Church

About 10 years ago, the news came out that Joshua Duggar had abused two of his sisters. And then just a few years ago, Josh was arrested and convicted of possessing and distributing CSAM. Fast forward to last month. Josh Duggar's younger brother, Joseph, was arrested on suspicion of molestation. The pattern is horrifying. In today's episode, Amy Fritz shares a conversation she had with Ryan George. Ryan escaped the Independant Fundamentalist Baptist (IFB) church world that's adjacent to the circles the Duggars are in. He shares how he got out and how he had to reckon with reports that his own father was an abuser. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com Featured Guest Ryan George Resources mentioned Hurt and Healed by the Church - Ryan's book Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: [email protected] Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

1 hr 3 min
Apr 14, 2026Episode 160
Expanding The Abortion Conversation Beyond Life Versus Choice. Guest: Angela Weszely

In this conversation, Angela Weszely talks about expanding the abortion conversation beyond life versus choice and why many Christians are feeling uncomfortable with the current discourse. This episode explores some better ways to approach this topic and what we might be missing. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we talk about: Taking off our team jerseys Measure success as becoming more like Jesus John 8 and the way it's been misrepresented What about truth? Why no one is coming to the church when they need help Letting go of shame Featured Guest Angela Weszely Resources mentioned Becoming ProGrace - Angela's book About the ProGrace organization Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: [email protected] Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

57 min
Apr 7, 2026Episode 159
Politics for the Politically Homeless. Guest: Lauren Pinkston

Independent candidate for governor in Tennessee, Lauren Pinkston joins Amy Fritz for a conversation about faith and politics and hope for those who feel politically homeless. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com Featured Guest Dr. Lauren Pinkston Website: Lauren Pinkston for Tennessee Governor Lauren's bio: Lauren Pinkston is a wife, mother of four, and seventh-generation Tennessean running for Governor to restore integrity, accountability, and common sense to state government. Rooted in rural Tennessee and shaped by global experience, she has built a career advancing opportunity by supporting human trafficking survivors, strengthening the workforce, and leading mission-driven organizations. Lauren is running to put Tennesseans first by improving education, supporting working families, and ensuring government serves people, not politics. She believes Tennessee's best days are ahead when leaders listen, lead with courage, and deliver real results. Lauren Pinkston for TN Make a Gift Volunteer with the Campaign Facebook Instagram <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@pinkstonfortn" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-saferedirecturl= "https://www.google.c

55 min
Mar 31, 2026Episode 158
Bible Truth About Women. Guest: Lydia Kaiser

Lydia Kaiser joins Amy Fritz for a conversation on what the Bible says about women. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we talk about: Lydia's new book, Bible Truth About Women: What They Don't Tell You. Titles v. Roles in Scripture How different Bible transitions change over the years Women in the New Testament Misconceptions about what Scripture says about women Featured Guest Lydia Kaiser Website: https://LydiaKaiser.com Facebook.com/LydiaGraceKaiser/ Email: [email protected] Resources mentioned Bible Truth About Women: What They Don't Tell You Dr. Beth Allison Barr Episode Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict <p dir="

57 min
Mar 17, 2026Episode 157
What To Do When the World Feels Heavy. Guest: Shannan Martin

In this conversation, Shannan Martin shares her framework of "counterweights" for balancing life's heaviness. This episode explores how balancing the hard things with intentional moments of joy can get us through. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we talk about: The story behind Shannon Martin's new book, Counterweights: An Essential Practice for Holding Hope in a Heavy World Practical ways to identify and gather counterweights in daily life The importance of authenticity in community and faith spaces Walking through a church community rupture The role of community in recovering from loss and betrayal Taco Bell and kids going to college Featured Guest Shannan Martin Resources mentioned Counterweights: An Essential Practice for Holding Hope in a Heavy World - The latest book by Shannan Martin Shannan Martin on Instagram - Daily reflections and updates Shannan Martin's Substack - Weekly insights on faith and emotional health <a class= "MuiTypography-root MuiTypography-inherit MuiLink-root MuiLi

51 min
Mar 10, 2026Episode 156
Processing ICE Actions in Minnesota as a Person of Faith. Guest: Kristina Kallman

Join Amy and Kristina as they explore the complexities of immigration, community engagement, and faith in Minnesota. This candid conversation highlights personal stories, systemic issues, and the importance of nuanced dialogue in today's polarized climate. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com We're talking about: Minnesota's Immigration Landscape Navigating Political Conversations The Impact of Community and Group Think The Dangers of Silence in Abusive Situations Power Dynamics and Accountability Current State of ICE in Minnesota Engaging in Difficult Conversations in Faith Communities Featured Guest Kristina Kallman Resources mentioned God's Heart For Minnesota https://youtu.be/O7jisPfjDaY?si=JT0Sn2f8oHNNcpjA Kristina Kallman's previous podcast appearance. 86: (Part 1) Shiny Happy People: The Impact of IBLP and Bill Got… Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: [email protected] Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

1 hr 2 min
Mar 3, 2026Episode 155
How To Love Your Immigrant Neighbor. Guest: Aaron Armstrong

Aaron Armstrong joins Amy Fritzfor a candid conversation about immigration. What's the immigration process look like? How can our Christian faith inform how we engage with the topic of immigration? Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode Aaron Armstrong shares his story of being an immigrant. Some misconceptions about documented and undocumented individuals and how they impact our communities How our Christian faith informs how we engage with this topic. Featured Guest Aaron Armstrong, Aaron Armstrong: Author, Speaker, Canadian Previous Episode with Aaron: 140: Navigating Awkward Church Transitions and Avoiding Accident… Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: [email protected] Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

59 min
Feb 17, 2026Episode 154
Navigating Burnout in Ministry. Guest: Matt Alexander, Kineo Center

In this conversation, Amy Fritz and Matt Alexander discuss the mission of the Kineo Center, which provides resources and support for pastors experiencing burnout. They explore the complexities of burnout, including its causes and the importance of preventative care. Matt shares personal experiences with burnout and highlights the significance of community support and healthy leadership in ministry. The discussion also touches on the need for sabbaticals and the journey of renewal for pastors, emphasizing the importance of self-care and discernment in leadership roles. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com Some topics covered: Introduction to Kineo Center and Its Mission Personal Experiences with Burnout in Ministry The Spectrum of Burnout and Support Needs Causes of Burnout in Ministry Four Key Components of Burnout The Role of Expectations in Burnout Navigating Vocational Disappointment The Importance of Sabbaticals Loneliness and Relational Injuries in Ministry Supporting Pastors: Practical Strategies Authenticity in Healing and Accountability Featured Guest Matt Alexander, Director of Kineo Center Resources mentioned Kineo Center The KINEO Center | Renew the Soul of Your Leadership Today Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: [email protected] Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

1 hr
Feb 10, 2026Episode 153
The Psychology of Deception and Blindness. Guest: Dr. Alan Godwin

In this conversation, Dr. Alan Godwin discusses his book 'Ties That Blind,' exploring the themes of individual and collective deception, cognitive dissonance, and the importance of attachment and identity in relationships. He shares personal experiences and insights from his practice as a psychologist, emphasizing the need for humility and compassion in understanding the complexities of human behavior and belief systems. The discussion also touches on the role of the church in fostering community and justice, and the challenges of navigating relationships with differing beliefs. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com Topics: Introduction to Ties That Blind Understanding Blindness in Relationships The Shift from Individual to Collective Deception The Role of Attachment and Identity Navigating Painful Realizations Cognitive Dissonance Explained The Power of Cognitive Dissonance Five Reasonabilities for Healthy Relationships The Church's Role in Community and Justice Featured Guest Dr. Alan Godwin Resources mentioned The Ties The Blind https://amzn.to/4tswxk4 The Barn https://amzn.to/4a7qwll Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: [email protected] Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

43 min
Feb 3, 2026Episode 152
Old Hymns and Forgotten Pathways to an Authentic Faith. Guest: Andrew Osenga

Musician and author, Andrew Osenga, joins Amy to talk about the forgotten pathways to an authentic faith, his work with developing artists, and the Anchor Hymns project. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode, we talk about Amy meeting Andrew Andrew's work in finding and developing new artists Sara Groves and Joel Hanson, both musicians from Minnesota Which Hymns are timeless and why Faith and doubt as companions Fighting cynicism Featured Guest Andrew Osenga Resources mentioned How to Remember: Forgotten Pathways to an Authentic Faith https://amzn.to/3MlYNEm Andrew's Substack (2) Andrew Osenga | Substack Anchor Hymns Anchor Hymns Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: [email protected] Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

53 min
Jan 27, 2026Episode 151
Ramsey Solutions O'Connor Lawsuit Update

Melissa Hogan joins Amy Fritz to give an update on the O'Connor v. Lampo Group lawsuit. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com Featured Guest Melissa Hogan, (2) Res Ipsa with Melissa J. Hogan | Substack Resources mentioned Faithful Counseling Lawsuit Documents Previous Ramsey episodes Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: [email protected] Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

53 min
Jan 20, 2026Episode 150
Understanding Intimate Partner Betrayal, Guest: Tammy Gustafson

Therapist and author Tammy Gustafson joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to talk about intimate partner betrayal and healing. Whether you are a survivor of betrayal or want to be a good friend to someone who has walked through this, this is an important episode. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we talk about Phases of healing Misconceptions of the Bible and revovering from betrayal What "successful" healing looks like Featured Guest Tammy Gustafson Resources mentioned Faithful Counseling The Life Saving Divorce https://amzn.to/3YPkn6Z Tammy Gustafson Tammy Gustafson | Betrayal Healing Betrayal healing conference Betrayal Healing Conference | Tammy Gustafson Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: [email protected] Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

16 min
Jan 13, 2026Episode 149
Reflecting on 2025 and Looking Forward to 2026

Podcast Host, Amy Fritz, reflects on 2025 with lessons learned, articles she's shared, favorite books and musicians, and some things she's thinking about for 2026 Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we talk about: Working on a memoir Articles from 2025 Musicians I love News stories I'm still thinking about Resources mentioned Untangled Faith Substack Suzy Flory, One Year Memoir Get the Hell Out of Dodge Open When You Drop Your Daughter Off At College For the First Time That Time Dave Ramsey Said He Might Possible Owe My Husband an Apology On Celebrations and Landmines and Reminders of the Places we Had to Leave Reckoning With Reports that Someone In Your Community Has Harmed Someone I Was Warned About the World, But Not About This Jon Guerra Sarah Kroger Becca Jordan Michael Tait allegations The Glass House The Tell Perversion of Justice Ordinary Time <li dir="ltr" aria-level="

54 min
Oct 28, 2025Episode 148
Inside the Megachurch Machine: Abuse, Accountability, and Christian Nationalism with Scott Latta

Journalist and author Scott Latta joins Amy Fritz to discuss Scott's new book, Gods of the Smoke Machine: Power, Pain, and the Rise of Christian Nationalism in the Megachurch, sharing stories of power, accountability, and the changing landscape of American megachurches. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we: Explore why megachurches are growing even as overall church attendance in America declines. Examine the evolution from traditional "big box" churches to franchise-style, multi-site megachurch models. Discuss the impact of megachurch growth on small churches, including the cannibalization of congregations and properties. Explore the profound loss experienced by members when megachurch scandals or abusive leaders come to light, and how that pain is multiplied by scale. Hear firsthand stories from those harmed by toxic church systems and why amplifying survivor voices is critical. Unpack the phenomenon of faux accountability and restoration processes for fallen pastors in megachurch networks. Discuss Boz Tchividjian's insights on the legal landscape, the role of financial consequences in church accountability, and why civil litigation is sometimes the only path to justice. Investigate how megachurches cultivate soft political power, their influence on Christian nationalism, and the increasing willingness of pastors to openly engage in politics. Offer practical wisdom for those seeking healthy faith communities, what real accountability looks like, and how to rethink church engagement after disillusionment. Featured Guest Scott Latta Gods of the Smoke Machine | Scott Latta | Substack Resources mentioned Faithful Counseling BetterHelp - Get Started & Sign-Up Today Scott Latta's Substack Gods of the Smoke Machine | Scott Latta | Substack Scott Latta on Bluesky Scott Latta (@scottlatta.bsky.social) — Bluesky

49 min
Oct 14, 2025Episode 147
Finding Freedom Through Surrender: Mary DeMuth on Letting Go, Healing, and Joyful Faith

Author and speaker Mary DeMuth joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to talk about the practice of surrender, what it looks like in the midst of personal trials, and the story behind her newest devotional book, The Freedom of Surrender: 40 Devotions for a Joyful Life in Christ. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we: Hear the origin story behind Mary's newest book, including how she combined her writing and original art in a 40-day devotional on surrender. Discuss what it means to surrender reputation, finances, relationships, aging, and even inner cynicism—and how Mary has personally wrestled with these themes. Talk honestly about vulnerability, church hurt, and the ongoing journey of healing from trauma and moral injury. Explore the tension between discernment and cynicism, especially when coming out of abusive faith communities. Share practical encouragement for those feeling isolated or stuck in their faith, and ways we can invite Jesus into our everyday struggles. Reflect on the power of community and honesty in the process of spiritual growth. Featured Guest Mary DeMuth Resources mentioned Faithful Counseling BetterHelp - Get Started & Sign-Up Today Church Hurt Checklist Bookstore - Mary DeMuth The Freedom of Surrender: https://amzn.to/4q8Nn63 Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on <a href=

52 min
Oct 7, 2025Episode 146
What You Don't Know About Domestic Violence. Guest: Neil Schori

This episode contains content that may be difficult for those who have experienced violence or who are sensitive to mentions of abuse or intimate partner violence. Please take care when listening. In 2007, Pastor Neil Schori sat down with a woman who had come to him for marriage counseling. You probably recognize her name: Stacy Peterson. Not long after that conversation, Stacy when missing and still has not been found. Her husband, Drew Peterson, is serving time in prison for being convicted of murdering his previous wife. Pastor Neil joins the Untangled Faith podcast to share his thoughts on the Steven Crowder video, what he wishes he had known about intimate partner violence and what friends and faith community leaders need to know to be safe places for those who may not even know they are in danger. In this episode, we talk about: The multiple facets of abuse go beyond bodily injury. The necessity of pastors to possess the right skills to manage abusive scenarios. Red flags the signal abuse situations. Empowering victims How incorrect theology is harming those being abused. Links: Document the Abuse website: https://documenttheabuse.com Neil Schori on Twitter: https://twitter.com/neilschori Neil Schori coaching: https://www.facebook.com/SchoriCoaching Sign up for Amy's email list and get her weekly podcast updates and monthly newsletter: https://untangledfaithpodcast.com Related Episodes: https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2022/05/11/43-what-weve-gotten-wrong-about-divorce-guest-gretchen-baskerville/ Support the show: Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and for 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled Where you can find me: https://untangledfaithpodcast.com https://instagram.com/untangledfaith https://instagram.com/amyhenningfritz

35 min
Sep 30, 2025Episode 145
Holy Hurt: Spiritual Trauma and Paths to Restoration, Guest: Hillary McBride

Hillary McBride joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to unpack spiritual trauma, healing, and how we can create faith communities that avoid replicating unhealthy patterns. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we: Explore who McBride's new book, Holy Hurt: Understanding Spiritual Trauma and the Process of Healing, is for and how different groups relate to spiritual trauma. Define spiritual abuse and spiritual trauma, and unpack the common misconceptions surrounding these terms. Discuss how curiosity and hope can bridge the gap between those who have and haven't experienced spiritual trauma. Address the accusation that spiritual trauma is a "fad" and reflect on the history and reality of spiritual harm, especially for marginalized communities. Consider the ethical complexities of sharing stories—both for survivors of spiritual trauma and those hosting podcasts or creating resources. Talk through practical ways new communities and organizations can avoid recreating harmful power dynamics and foster safety and agency. Reflect on the role of conflict, repair, and personal healing in faith spaces and survivor communities. Touch on generational differences in openness to processing and naming spiritual harm and why resources matter for healing. Featured Guest Hillary McBride Resources mentioned Faithful Counseling BetterHelp - Get Started & Sign-Up Today Holy Hurt: Understanding Spiritual Trauma and the Process of Healing Hillary L McBride - Therapist, Researcher, Speaker and Writer Hillary L McBride (@hillaryliannamcbride) • Instagram photos and videos Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts <p dir="ltr"

55 min
Sep 23, 2025Episode 144
Why Christians Need History: Lessons from Napoleon, Misleading Historians, and Our Cultural Myths

Chris Staron, host of the Truce podcast joins Amy to talk about the importance of looking at history to make sense of this current moment. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we: Talk about the origin story of the Truce podcast and Chris's approach to using history to illuminate today's faith questions. Discuss the power of curiosity and humility in addressing gaps in our knowledge. Reflect on the importance of surrounding ourselves with experts—and being open to their feedback. Examine how historical context can reshape our assumptions about gender roles, especially in the context of "biblical womanhood." Challenge the idea that "this is the worst it's ever been" by exploring history's patterns and precedents. Talk about identifying trustworthy sources—and red flags—in historical writing, including the importance of bibliographies and the dangers of consuming information solely from those who share our theological or political biases. Analyze the work (and controversy) surrounding figures like David Barton and the misinterpretation of America's Christian roots. Highlight the value of reading outside our usual bubbles and expanding our knowledge beyond World War II or familiar American history. Encourage listeners to approach new information, especially history, with a willingness to be challenged and changed. Featured Guest Chris Staron website: www.trucepodcast.com x: https://x.com/trucepodcast/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/trucepodcast Blue Sky: https://bsky.app/profile/trucepodcast.bsky.social inst

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Jul 15, 2025Episode 143
Ramsey Solutions Lawsuit Happenings and a Summer Update

Amy Fritz shares an update on what's happening with the Amos v. Lampo Group and O'Connor v. Lampo Group lawsuits and a brief summer update. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com Resources mentioned Substack Update https://untangledfaith.substack.com/p/finding-my-podcast-rhythm Amos v. Lampo Group filings https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/61614266/amos-v-lampo-group-llc-the/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc O'Connor v. Lampo Group filings https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/17372107/oconnor-v-the-lampo-group-llc/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc You can find more Ramsey Episodes here: https://www.untangledfaithpodcast.com/categories/ramsey-solutions-dave-ramsey/ Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: [email protected] Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

49 min
Jun 20, 2025Episode 142
Recovering From Purity Culture. Guest: Dr. Camden Morgante

Dr. Camden Morgante joins Amy Fritz to talk about all the awful metaphors and false promises of purity culture, and a better way forward. If you grew up reading Josh Harris and Elisabeth Elliot, you're going to love this one! Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com Featured Guest Dr. Camden Morgante https://drcamden.com/press/ Resources mentioned Dr. Camden's site: https://drcamden.com/press/ Dr. Camden's Substack: https://drcamden.substack.com/ Recovering From Purity Culture https://amzn.to/4kQmSPN Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: [email protected] Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

53 min
Jun 11, 2025Episode 141
Healing and Navigating the Pitfalls of the Advocacy Space. Guest: Lori Anne Thompson

Have you been told to (or seen others) push through personal pain and trauma while engaging in advocacy for the health of the Church without being given the tools to manage your (or their) own emotional wellness? Are you often feeling overwhelmed and exhausted? Meet Lori Anne Thompson: a compassionate survivor, storyteller, and student. Lori Anne is a devoted wife, mother, and enthusiastic cook who loves to share her passion for sustainable rhythms and healing for those who have survived trauma. This episode was initially shared in April 2023, but with the heartbreaking loss of Jennifer Lyell, I wanted to share it again. You can find more information on Jennifer Lyell here: Died: Jennifer Lyell, SBC Abuse Survivor and Former Lifeway Executive - Christianity Today Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com Lori Anne and Amy talk through these topics in this episode of the Untangled Faith podcast: Who is Lori Anne Thompson? The Three Phases of Recovery How trauma can't be your whole life Chronic activation Finding sustainable ways to give back Red flags to look for Becoming what we're against The power of saying no. Resources: Victim Impact Statement from Lori Anne Thompson regarding Ravi Zacharias: https://loriannethompson.com/2021/02/08/lori-anne-thompson-victim-impact-statement/ https://loriannethompson.com https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/podcasts/bulletin/cpac-trump-transgenderism-oscars.html Truth & Repair: How Trauma Survivors Envision Justice by Judith Herman: https://amzn.to/3mxzx0W Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and for 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled

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Jun 4, 2025Episode 140
Navigating Awkward Church Transitions and Avoiding Accidental Heresy. Guest: Aaron Armstrong

Aaron Armstrong joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to explore the nuances of leaving a beloved church community, navigating the awkwardness of joining a new church, and the motivations and process behind his new book, Faith Simplified: What We Believe and Why We Believe It. The conversation moves from personal stories of faith transitions to honest insight into Christian publishing, endorsements, and what it means to thoughtfully engage with the important theological tenants of the Christian faith. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we: Hear Aaron's story of leaving a church he loved and the emotional and practical realities of church closure—reflecting on how endings don't always mean failure. Discuss the strange and sometimes awkward season of being new in a church, resisting the urge to jump right in, and learning to simply "be." Delve into the complexities of book endorsements in Christian publishing, including why they matter (or don't), how they're decided, and the landmines authors and publishers face. Talk about how reducing people to social media snippets can distort real-life relationships, and why discernment is important when choosing where to show up and engage. Wrestle with common theological distractions and accidental heresies. Explore Aaron's new book, Faith Simplified: What We Believe and Why We Believe It, including his approach to foundational theology, why he wrote it, and who it's for. Featured Guest Aaron Armstrong Aaron Armstrong: Author, Speaker, Canadian Resources mentioned Aaron's web site https://aaronarmstrong.co Faith Simplified https://amzn.to/43PxkzT Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us

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May 21, 2025Episode 139
Posture Over Position: Transforming How We Engage LGBTQ+ Folks in Our Congregations: Guest Bill Henson, Posture Shift Ministries

Bill Henson, founder and director of Posture Shift Ministries, joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to talk about cultivating a posture of radical love and hospitality toward LGBTQ+ individuals and families within the church, regardless of theological position. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we: Explore the difference between a church's theological position and its posture toward LGBTQ+ individuals. Hear why Posture Shift was founded in the midst of the culture wars around LGBTQ+ rights and the church's response. Discuss the importance of practical, missional skill sets for churches to truly love and include LGBTQ+ people, beyond merely good intentions. Address common language pitfalls and the impact of terminology like "lifestyle" on LGBTQ+ individuals seeking belonging in faith communities. Examine the need for clarity and transparency about church beliefs on sexuality—and the harm of ambiguity or "bait and switch" scenarios for LGBTQ+ congregants. Reflect on the dangers of treating LGBTQ+ presence in church as a threat, and instead view it as a missional opportunity. Consider best practices for using names and pronouns, and the principle of "pronoun hospitality," especially in youth ministry and family settings. Learn about practical resources like the "Guiding Families" book and direct care coaching for families navigating these conversations. Featured Guest Bill Henson, Posture Shift Ministries Posture Shift | postureshift.com Resources mentioned This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and for 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled About - Posture Shift | postureshift.com Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify <p dir

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May 6, 2025Episode 138
Third-Party Investigations and Trauma Informed Practices. In Memory of Pete Singer

Pete Singer passed away on May 1, 2025. He is missed by his many family and friends. Make a donation to GRACE: https://netgrace.org/donate Pete Singer, executive director of GRACE, shares about grooming, hidden trauma, being "overly" sensitive to abuse, and the importance of third-party investigations. "Perpetrators put a lot of effort into being the kind of person who would never do that." "Being more sensitive may be the product of having more knowledge." Pete Singer is the Executive Director of GRACE: Godly Response to Abuse in the Christian Environment and an expert on third-party investigations, trauma, and trauma-informed practice. GRACE: Godly Response to Abuse in the Christian Environment is a nonprofit organization that specializes in safeguarding initiatives to guard against church abuse, sexual abuse in the church. In this episode, you will learn the following: 1. What misconceptions about perpetrators of abuse do people have, and how can we ensure we are more informed? 2. How does trauma-informed practice apply in churches, and why is it important? 3. How can churches protect possible victims and be transparent and trustworthy in their response to allegations of misconduct? Links: https://netgrace.org SAMHSA's Six Principles of Trauma-Informed Care – Post-Secondary Peer Support Training Curriculum (opentextbc.ca)

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Apr 29, 2025Episode 137
Life After Financial Peace University Rethinking Dave Ramsey's Baby Steps

Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com Dan and Summer Watt & Melissa Hogan joined me for episode 39: The Problem with Financial Peace University and Dave Ramsey's Financial Rhetoric. ⁠ This conversation we had was made possible by the fact that those of us involved in this episode have spent the last several years processing together our experiences with the ups and downs of Financial Peace University and the rhetoric coming from the Ramsey Show.⁠ ⁠ While we all had different levels of understanding and adhering to the plan, each of us have found ourselves with serious questions. Some of these questions started before we broke ties with the organization and some of these realizations came later.⁠ ⁠ We don't claim to be unbiased observers. We all have had very painful and disappointing experiences with Ramsey Solutions, but we don't think that negates the very real questions we raise.⁠ Links: D.L. Mayfield, The Myth of the American Dream Dan Watt- Why Write About Lampo? Dan Watt- Getting a Mortgage with no credit score American Gospel movie Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: [email protected] Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

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Apr 23, 2025Episode 136
What Happens When You Have Conflicting Information About Someone's Character?

Amy Fritz shares a brief reflection on what it's like to reckon with there being two versions of someone. What would it cost to believe a person could be kind and generous sometimes and cruel and abusive other times? Are you allowed to consider that, and what does it mean if you aren't? Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: [email protected] Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

51 min
Apr 15, 2025Episode 135
Explaining the Johnny Hunt v. Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) Lawsuit. Guest: Melissa J. Hogan

Amy Fritz is joined by Melissa J. Hogan on the Untangled Faith podcast to discuss the lawsuit involving Johnny Hunt and the SBC, addressing misconceptions and the importance of the judge's resolution. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we: Explore the origins and developments of the Johnny Hunt lawsuit against the SBC. Unpack the significance of the Guidepost Report in uncovering abuse within the SBC. Clarify common misconceptions about defamation cases and the impact of public testimony. Reveal the judge's resolution and its implications for survivors and the SBC. Highlight the importance of understanding power dynamics and trauma-informed perspectives in cases of abuse. Featured Guest Melissa J. Hogan https://melissajhogan.substack.com Resources mentioned Dr. David Pooler Professor David Pooler: What is consent and power in clergy-laity relations? | Diana R. Garland School of Social Work | Baylor University Judge Rules Against Johnny Hunt in Defamation Suit over SBC Abuse Report - Christianity Today If you liked this episode you'll like these: 83: Dave Ramsey's Legal Nightmare: Time Share Exit Team Class-Action Lawsuit Deep Dive with Melissa Hogan 94: Lawsuit Update: Hypocrisy and Double Standards at Ramsey Solutions Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on <a href= "https://podcastaddict.com/podcast/untangled-fai

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Apr 8, 2025Episode 134
Pushing Back Against Spiritual Anxiety. Guest: Tiffany Yecke Brooks

Tiffany Yecke Brooks joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to discuss her book Holy Ghosted and searching for a less anxious faith Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode, we: Explore the concept of spiritual anxiety as a trauma response and its impact on individuals raised in legalistic religious environments. Discuss the influence of religious teachings and cultural pressures on Gen X and millennials' spiritual experiences. Examine how control and manipulation manifest in religious communities through various rhetorical techniques. Highlight the historical presence of spiritual anxiety among church figures and the recognition of healthier ways to engage with faith. Reflect on the notion of God's will as a relationship rather than a specific path, encouraging a focus on making thoughtful and intentional decisions. Featured Guest Tiffany Yecke Brooks Resources mentioned Holy Ghosted https://amzn.to/4llmYPZ https://tiffanyyeckebrooks.com https://tiffanyyeckebrooks.substack.com Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: [email protected] Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. <

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Apr 1, 2025Episode 133
Building Safe Sanctuaries. Guest: Dr. Diane Langberg

Dr. Diane Langberg joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to discuss her insights on abuse within the church and her latest book, "When the Church Harms God's People." Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode, we: Explore the evolution of understanding abuse and trauma over the past five decades with Dr. Langberg. Discuss the misconceptions surrounding abuse and domestic violence within Christian communities. Examine the bravery required for victims to speak up and how church leaders should respond to disclosures of abuse. Address the importance of protecting individuals over preserving institutions or marriages. Consider what true repentance looks like for perpetrators and how mercy and love can be extended to them responsibly. Look at the challenges faced by survivors and the need for vigilance and wisdom in church settings. Highlight the essential role of education and training for leaders in recognizing and responding to abuse situations. Featured Guest Dr. Diane Langberg Resources mentioned When The Church Harms God's People https://amzn.to/4lbpqsn Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: [email protected] Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

56 min
Mar 25, 2025
Celebrities For Jesus. Guest: Katelyn Beaty (RERUN)

Katelyn Beaty joins Amy Fritz for a conversation about what Katelyn learned as she was writing her upcoming book, Celebrities for Jesus: How Personas, Platforms, and Profits Are Hurting the Church. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we talk about: How did Katelyn decide who to reach out to for endorsements for a book like this? Proximity as an antidote to implosion. An update on my former pastor who plagiarized most of his sermons and personal stories. Ghostwriting Plagiarism What is the role of the consumer? Featured Guest Katelyn Beaty https://katelybeaty.com Resources mentioned Faithful Counseling https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled Buy Katelyn's book: https://amzn.to/3AaCGaY Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: [email protected] Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

1 hr
Mar 18, 2025Episode 132
Loving Your Christian Nationalist Neighbor. Guest: Caleb Campbell

Caleb Campbell joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to discuss his journey from pastoring to becoming an author, and how to engage lovingly with Christian nationalists. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we: Explore Caleb Campbell's background and transformation from a neo-Nazi skinhead to a church pastor. Discover the origins and motivations behind Caleb's book on Christian nationalism. Reflect on the challenges pastors face in navigating cultural and political divides, particularly within the past decade. Reframe the approach to Christian nationalism as a mission field rather than an enemy to combat. Consider practical steps for engaging in meaningful, compassionate conversations with those holding nationalist views. Featured Guest Caleb Campbell https://www.disarmingleviathan.com Resources mentioned Faithful Counseling https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled Disarming Leviathan: Loving Your Christian Nationalist Neighbor https://amzn.to/4hEwCdi The Quiet Damage: QAnon and the Destruction of the American Family https://amzn.to/4hEwCdi Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: [email protected] Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

51 min
Mar 11, 2025Episode 131
Exploring Women's Historical Roles in Ministry. Guest: Dr. Beth Allison Barr

Dr. Beth Allison Barr joins Amy Fritz to talk about the how women's roles in church ministry have changed throughout history. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we: Dive into the origins and unexpected reactions to Barr's previous work, "The Making of Biblical Womanhood." Explore how Barr's experiences as both a historian and pastor's wife influenced her latest work. Unpack the historical context of ordination and the roles women played in early church leadership. Reveal how cultural forces and economics, rather than biblical mandates, have historically dictated views on women's roles. Discuss the Southern Baptist Convention's shifting stance on women's ordination in response to social and cultural changes. Shine a light on current issues within the SBC, including the connection between power dynamics and handling of abuse cases. Featured Guest Dr. Beth Allison Barr https://bakerbookhouse.com/products/598817 Resources mentioned Faithful Counseling- get 10% off here: BetterHelp - Get Started & Sign-Up Today Beth's book: https://bakerbookhouse.com/products/598817 Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: [email protected] Follow me on Instagram Follow me on <a href= "https://www.threads.net/@a

56 min
Mar 4, 2025Episode 130
Engaging Cultural Issues Through Faith: A Conversation with Marty Duren

Marty Duren joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to explore the intersections of faith, politics, and societal issues. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode Amy and Marty: Talk about Marty's journey away from the Moral Majority Discuss the impact of Christian Nationalism and how that's different than patriotism Consider how proximity changes how we understand different issues. Talk about why Marty hates the word "impactful"! Featured Guest Mary Duren Kingdom in the Midst - On Earth as It is in Heaven Marty on Bluesky: Marty Duren (@martyduren.bsky.social) — Bluesky Marty on Facebook: Facebook Resources mentioned Faithful Counseling- get 10% off here: BetterHelp - Get Started & Sign-Up Today Marty's Book, The Disparate Ones https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-disparate-ones-essays-on-being-in-the-world-but-not-of-the-world/ae8b8e3c312ea6ff?ean=9781736282182&next=t&next=t Blood Brothers https://amzn.to/41qTiYq The Hundred Years' War on Palestine https://amzn.to/4i3G9fa Whose Promised Land https://amzn.to/43lCULB A Stranger In the Land https://amzn.to/43lCULB Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on

51 min
Feb 25, 2025Episode 129
Searching For Safety After Abuse and Harm. Guest: Melissa J. Hogan

Melissa J. Hogan joins Amy to talk about a talk she gave at the Restore conference in Feb 2025. What does it look like to search for safety after abuse? Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com What we talk about: Finding safe community Establishing stability The cocoon stage Reckoning with imperfect communities The risk of truly living Featured Guest Melissa J. Hogan (1) Res Ipsa with Melissa J. Hogan | Substack Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: [email protected] Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

46 min
Feb 11, 2025Episode 128
Understanding Conspiracy Theories. Guest: Dr. Karen Swallow Prior

Dr. Karen Swallow Prior joins Amy Fritz for a conversation about conspiracy theories and what it looks like to be responsible consumers of information. Subscribe to my newsletter (paid and unpaid options available to support the show): https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we talk about What's a conspiracy theory? What's the appeal of conspiracy theories? How literature and media we consume forms our imaginations Featured Guest Dr. Karen Swallow Prior https://karenswallowprior.com Resources mentioned Holy Post Video about conspiracy theories: Why Do We Believe Conspiracy Theories? Dr. Francis Collins on The Bulletin https://www.christianitytoday.com/podcasts/the-bulletin/one-on-one-with-francis-collins I Cheerfully Refuse https://amzn.to/4jIoRFw The Evangelical Imagination https://amzn.to/411X9fG Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: [email protected] Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

1 hr 4 min
Feb 4, 2025Episode 127
False Redemption: It's Not A Marriage Issue Guest- Melissa J. Hogan

Attorney and Institutional Response Specialist Melissa J. Hogan joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast for a candid discussion about how communities and leaders should respond when there is a breakdown of trust in a marriage, especially when issues of abuse or infidelity are involved. What happens when we diagnose an abuse issue as a marriage issue? Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we talk about What communities, leaders, and friends should consider when addressing trust breakdowns in marriages. Why the first instinct to restore the marriage might be harmful. Common myths around quick-fixes such as short-term therapies and intensives. Practical steps and resources for leaders. Featured Guest Melissa J. Hogan https://melissajhogan.substack.com Resources mentioned GRACE https://www.netgrace.org Dr. Diane Langberg https://www.dianelangeberg.com Caring Well Conference 2019 ERLC National Conference - Caring Well on Vimeo Gretchen Baskerville About Me | Life-Saving Divorce Leslie Vernick Home - Leslie Vernick Natalie Hoffman Flying Free Support for Women in Abusive Relationships Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict <

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Jan 28, 2025Episode 126
Revisiting Left Behind with Jerry Dugan

How well does the 1995 hit book, Left Behind hold up? Amy Fritz is joined by author and podcaster, Jerry Dugan to talk about this cult classic. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we'll cover The origin story of Left Behind Left Behind and end times speculation Who is the anti-Christ? The impact the book had on evangelical Christians in the US Failed end-times predictions Featured Guest Jerry Dugan Resources mentioned This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled Revelation For The Rest of Us Left Behind Much Ado About Nothing Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: [email protected] Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

59 min
Jan 21, 2025Episode 125
Meet the "Sharon Says So" of the PCA denomination. Guest: Lynna Sutherland

Lynna Sutherland, whom Amy refers to as the "Sharon McMahon of the PCA" stops by the Untangled Faith podcast to talk about her work in her ministry Advocacy From the Presbyterian Pew Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com Amy and Lynna talk about What inspired Lynna Sutherland to start Advocacy from the Presbyterian Pew Complexity of the PCA How understanding the origin of the PCA helps Lynna in her work Current issues: DASA Advice for men in leadership in the denomination Advice for women Featured Guest: Lynna Sutherland Presbyterian Pew Resources mentioned Advocacy from the Presbyterian Pew: Presbyterian Pew Dr. Langberg on Russell Moore podcast Harm, Trauma, and Church Abuse - Christianity Today Darby Strickland Home | Darby Strickland Ian Sears case, Nashville Presbytery Nashville pastor ousted: A landmark in PCA abuse reformMee Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts wit

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Jan 14, 2025Episode 124
4 Year Anniversary of Going on The Record About Ramsey Solutions

Amy Fritz reflects on the 4 year anniversary of the Religion News Service article Is Dave Ramsey's Company the Best Place to Work? Say No and You're Out. Heather Fulk joins Amy to talk about going on the record for that article. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode you'll find Origin of the RNS article Heather Fulk shares what it's like to go decide to go on the record. Amy reflects on the Ramsey response and the main RNS article Featured Guest Heather Fulk Resources mentioned Ramsey Solutions, Dave Ramsey Episodes | Untangled Faith Dave Ramsey, Christian person finance guru, defies COVID-19 to keep staff at desks. Is Dave Ramsey's empire the 'best place to work in America'? Say no and you're out. Full Ramsey Solutions Response. Exclusive: Audio Shows Dave Ramsey's Board Knowingly Kept Adulterous Personality on Staff. At Dave Ramsey's company, some sex outside marriage was OK, court documents show Dave Ramsey Sued for $150 Million By Former Fans Who Followed His Time Share Exit Advice Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on <a href= "https:

16 min
Dec 31, 2024Episode 123
Year in Review: Favorite Reads, Podcast Moments, and Insights from 2024

Amy Fritz reflects on lessons learned in 2024, favorite books, and what's coming next. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com Hire Amy to help you with your podcast. Email: [email protected] Episode Highlights Most downloaded episode of 2024: The episode where Amy re-recorded her part of the conversation by herself Favorite Books Lessons Learned What's Next! Resources mentioned This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled Episode 111:How to Know Who to Trust in the Religion World Episode 113 with Chuck DeGroat Othered by Jenai Auman https://amzn.to/40gPCsU Lessons From the COVID War https://amzn.to/49Z22ZM My, Myself and Bob https://amzn.to/4a0okdM Final Accounting https://amzn.to/4gCsieY You Could Make This Place Beautiful https://amzn.to/4gxnec3 The Next Right Thing Guided Journal https://amzn.to/4iYPKow Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on <a hre

43 min
Dec 24, 2024
Holy Spaces of Grief with Natasha Smith

Natasha Smith joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to share her journey through grief, faith, and the power of presence during life's hardest moments. "Grief starts when you start to let go." – Natasha Smith Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we talk about The emotional rollercoaster of awaiting MRI results and the devastating news Natasha's family received. The ICU waiting room as both a heavy and holy space The honest expression of grief and the complexities of maintaining faith amidst sorrow and disappointment. The importance of a supportive community. Secondary and invisible grief. How accurate theology can shape our understanding of suffering and God's role in it. Featured Guest Natasha Smith Homepage - Natasha Smith Resources mentioned This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and for 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled Natasha Smith's book Can You Just Sit With Me? Dr. Diane Langberg- Suffering and the Heart of God: How Trauma Destroys and Christ Restores. Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk a

47 min
Dec 17, 2024
Leaving Church and Looking for Christ with Broken to Beloved

This is an episode from the Broken to Beloved podcast with Brian Lee. Brian interviews Scot Mcknight and Tommy Preson Philips about their new book Invisible Jesus: A Book about Leaving the Church and Looking for Christ Episode Resources and Links The Myth of a Christian Nation by Greg Boyd on Bookshop | Amazon Revelation for the Rest of Us by Scot McKnight & Cody Hatchett on Bookshop | on Amazon Guest Spotlight Scot has been a professor of NT for more than four decades. He is the author of more than 90 books, including the award-winning The Jesus Creed as well as A Church Called TOV. Tommy Preson Phillips is a pastor at Watermark Church in Tampa, FL. He is also a songwriter and recording artist with his band Preson Phillips. He holds an MA in NT from Northern Seminary. Scot: Website | Instagram | Twitter/X | Threads Tommy: Substack | Instagram | Threads | Preson Phillips band Get your copy of Invisible Jesus on Amazon | on Bookshop Links in these show notes are affiliate links that pay a small portion of the purchase price to Brian Lee at Broken to Beloved at no extra cost to you.

51 min
Dec 10, 2024
The Spiritual Discipline of Curiosity with Lore Wilbert

Lore Wilbert joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to talk about her book, "A Curious Faith," and the spiritual discipline of curiosity, revisiting themes of certainty, vulnerability, and the role of questioning within faith communities. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode, we: Explore the themes and inspirations behind Lore Wilbert's book, "A Curious Faith." Discuss the societal expectation of certainty within faith communities and the richness found in admitting uncertainty Learn about Lore's experiences with using curiosity as a protective mechanism and its impacts on relationships. Reflect on the biblical story of Moses through a chapter from Lori's book, emphasizing the significance of unexpected life challenges. Highlight the need for ethical responsibility in acknowledging sources and giving proper credit, discussing issues of plagiarism in Christian publishing. Address the complexity of accepting both good and bad elements in the world through a Christian perspective. Consider the importance of curiosity as a spiritual discipline and its role in fostering understanding and genuine faith. Podcast Guest Lore Wilbert (1) S A Y A B L E | Lore Wilbert | Substack Resources: A Curious Faith by Lore Wilbert https://amzn.to/41rzkPg If you liked this episode, check out these: 90: Historical & Cultural Influences on Evangelicalism. Guest: Karen Swallow Prior 51: Celebrities for Jesus. Guest: Katelyn Beaty Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangl

56 min
Dec 3, 2024Episode 122
Revisiting His Needs, Her Needs with Melissa J. Hogan

Listener note: The content in this episode may not be suitable for young children. Also, please be aware that there is discussion of abuse in this episode. Please take care when listening. Melissa J. Hogan, joins Amy Fritz to revisit the 1986 marriage book His Needs, Needs by Dr. Willard Harley. Does it hold up? Did it ever hold up? What happens when a spouse who is struggling in their marriage and hoping for a way to save it picks up this book? Melissa's substack: Res Ipsa launches on January 3, 2025. - by Melissa J. Hogan If you liked this episode, check out these: 43: What We've Gotten Wrong About Divorce. Guest: Gretchen Baskerville 79: Domestic Violence & Evangelical Churches. Guest: Neil Schori Where you can find me: Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com @amyfritz.bsky.social https://untangledfaithpodcast.com Amy Fritz (@amyhenningfritz) on Threads https://instagram.com/untangledfaith https://instagram.com/amyhenningfritz

1 hr
Nov 26, 2024Episode 121
Revisiting The Prayer of Jabez

Amy Fritz is joined by her husband, Nathan, to discuss the year 2000 NYT Best Selling book, The Prayer of Jabez. If you liked this episode, check out these: 90: Historical & Cultural Influences on Evangelicalism. Guest: Karen Swallow Prior 75: Surviving, Healing, & The Pitfalls of Advocacy. Guest: Lori Anne Thompson Where you can find me: Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com @amyfritz.bsky.social https://untangledfaithpodcast.com Amy Fritz (@amyhenningfritz) on Threads https://instagram.com/untangledfaith https://instagram.com/amyhenningfritz

13 min
Nov 19, 2024Episode 120
2024 Election Wrap-Up and What's Next

Amy wraps up the series on faith and politics and shares some reflections on the results of the 2024 election and what's up next for the podcast. Resources: Jen Pollock Michel Substack Article: https://jenpollockmichel.substack.com/p/writing-and-reading-in-our-political Hannah Anderson Article: https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/dispatch-faith/remembering-humility-as-a-virtue/?utm_content=buffer2da79&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer If you liked this episode, check out these: 116 How Evangelicals Aligned with Republicans: A Conversation with Chris Staron (untangledfaithpodcast.com) 115: What Happens When You Mix Politics and Faith with Kaitlyn Schiess (untangledfaithpodcast.com) Where you can find me: Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com @amyfritz.bsky.social https://untangledfaithpodcast.com Amy Fritz (@amyhenningfritz) on Threads https://instagram.com/untangledfaith https://instagram.com/amyhenningfritz

46 min
Nov 12, 2024Episode 119
Orphaned Believers: Sara Billups on Church, Culture Wars, and Spiritual Growth

Sara Billups joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to discuss how the focus on end times, culture wars, and consumerism in the evangelical church formed many of us growing up in the 80s and 90s. "If I'm being formed by these forces, in what ways am I being formed by Jesus?" – Sara Billups Stuff we talk about: Sara's faith and family history. The Moral Majority Our desire for a common enemy Consumerism and prosperity gospel The importance of community Resources: Orphaned Believers: https://amzn.to/3ULDoFy Jesus and John Wayne: https://amzn.to/3ULDoFy If you liked this episode, check out these: 116 How Evangelicals Aligned with Republicans: A Conversation with Chris Staron (untangledfaithpodcast.com) 115: What Happens When You Mix Politics and Faith with Kaitlyn Schiess (untangledfaithpodcast.com) Where you can find me: Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com Youtube channel- https://youtube.com/channel/UCPfFk-I6QShXXvEpSFaJOvg https://untangledfaithpodcast.com Amy Fritz (@amyhenningfritz) on Threads https://instagram.com/untangledfaith https://instagram.com/amyhenningfritz

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Nov 5, 2024Episode 118
Is There One Right Way for Christians to Vote?

If you seek a deeper understanding of aligning your faith and politics, this episode offers some thought-provoking insights and practical take-aways regarding what it looks like to have your Christian faith inform your vote. Amy Fritz is joined by her husband, Nathan, and they talk about: The importance of diverse voices. Pro-life v. Pro-choice complexities. Border security and immigration Voting for a president. Beyond straight-party voting. Love God. Love your neighbor Resources: What About Abortion? Should this one issue determine how Christians vote? (1) Why the Freedom to Choose Matters to Me - by Lore Wilbert When Does Life Begin? (1) Beyond the "Christian" Voter Guide - by Amy Fritz Home - Women of Welcome Common Questions - Women of Welcome If you liked this episode, check out these: 116 How Evangelicals Aligned with Republicans: A Conversation with Chris Staron (untangledfaithpodcast.com) 115: What Happens When You Mix Politics and Faith with Kaitlyn Schiess (untangledfaithpodcast.com) Where you can find me: Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com Youtube channel- https://youtube.com/channel/UCPfFk-I6QShXXvEpSFaJOvg https://untangledfaithpodcast.com Amy Fritz (@amyhenningfritz) on Threads https://instagram.com/untangledfaith https://instagram.com/amyhenningfritz