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MEDAL OF HONOR – STORIES OF COURAGE Hosted by J. R. MartinezIN THIS EPISODE YOU WILL HEAR: • Edward Isaac, Naval Officer was captured by the Germans in 1918 (2:46)• From the moment he was captured, he was trying to escape. (2:53)• He jumped out of a moving train. The man just refused to give up. (3:05)• He wanted to stop the whole damn war (3:35)•  He would risk everything to bring his intelligence to the allies and help finally destroy the enemy fleet. (9:25)

NEVER QUIT THROUGH GRIEFThis week’s episode of the Team Never Quit Podcast features an extraordinary woman whose life has been marked by unimaginable hardship, relentless perseverance, and a mission to bring hope to others. Angela Skudin shares her deeply personal journey through chronic illness, devastating loss, and ultimately, purpose.After battling Lyme Disease and debilitating co-infections that left her bedridden for more than a year, Angela found herself searching for answers beyond traditional medicine. When conventional treatments failed to restore her health, she courageously pursued alternative healing modalities and psychedelic-assisted therapies. By 2022, Angela had reclaimed her life—fully restored, prescription-free, and thriving once again.But just as healing had begun, tragedy struck.While on a family vacation celebrating Father’s Day and her husband Casey’s upcoming birthday, a catastrophic accident changed everything. In a final act of courage and selflessness, Casey used his instincts and training to protect his family when a falling tree crushed their vehicle—sacrificing his own life to save theirs.In the wake of overwhelming grief, Angela chose to honor Casey’s legacy in a remarkable way. She founded The Casey Skudin 343 Fund, an organization dedicated to helping First Responders access holistic and alternative treatments for trauma, PTSD, and mental health struggles born from frontline service.This is a powerful conversation about resilience, healing, sacrifice, and discovering purpose through pain. Angela’s story is one of unwavering determination and a reminder that even in life’s darkest moments, hope can still rise.IN THIS EPISODE YOU WILL HEAR: • I had chronic Lyme Disease, mold toxicity, Moore-Jones disease, BCA Bartonella, and relapsing fever Borrelia. It shut my body down from head to toe. I had a heart condition, a thyroid condition, sand a skin condition, a neurological condition. (12:22)• I melded together Western medicine with the holistic approach and was able to get out from under my disease in about 2 years. (14:00)• Working out 7 days a week or working 7 days a week – those are going to bother your central nervous system. (15:34)• Everything constantly changes, and it can change in your favor. (17:51)• I was lying in a bed with sores all over my body and handfuls of hair falling out of my head. (20:15)• No doctor in the United States could help me. (23:16)• [After an Iboga treatment] So the night comes and I go to bed, and I wake up the next morning and I have slept like a baby all night long for the first time in my life. (27:05)• I have so much more gratitude and love that came from that root. (28:03)• [Melanie] There isn’t one person that can convince me that Ibogaine is bad, f it’s used with the right intention, for the purpose of healing. (41:18)• It isn’t just for extreme peo

Carry the Legacy: Turning Loss into a Lifelong MissionThis week, Marcus and Melanie sit down with Ryan Manion, a remarkable leader, advocate, and Gold Star sister whose life mission is rooted in service, resilience, and legacy.Ryan’s story begins with the life and sacrifice of her brother, Travis Manion, a U.S. Marine who gave his life on April 29, 2007, in Al Anbar Province, Iraq, while drawing enemy fire away from his wounded teammates. But as Ryan shares in this episode, her life has not been defined by that tragedy—it has been inspired by it.At the heart of Ryan’s journey is one defining character strength: bravery. It’s the courage to move forward, to persevere through unimaginable loss, and to live a life worthy of the sacrifices made by others. Travis’s legacy continues to shape every decision she makes, fueling a mission that impacts thousands across the country.As the leader of the Travis Manion Foundation (TMF), Ryan carries forward a vision first started by her mother—serving veterans, families of the fallen, and inspired civilians. Through her leadership, TMF has become a powerful force for mentorship, character development, and community impact. Ryan brings a unique balance to this work—combining deep purpose with a sense of humor and humanity that allows her to see beyond grief and into transformation.Ryan also shares insights from her book, The Knock at the Door, co-written with fellow Gold Star women. Together, they recount the unbreakable bond formed through loss—and the strength found in choosing to move forward with purpose.This episode is a powerful reminder that we only get one shot at life—and it’s up to us to make it count. Through service, resilience, and courage, Ryan Manion challenges us all to become the best versions of ourselves while lifting others along the way.In This Episode You Will Hear: • What I love about the Naval Academy is that it’s so rich in tradition. (20:22)• Post 9-11 veterans did more in 1 or 2 years than I did in 30 years. (22:30)• I didn’t feel nervous or scared about [my brother] being in Iraq. (24:48)• There was one night we were sitting at my house having a beer and he said “Hey, I just want you to know, if anything happens to me, I wanna be buried at Arlington.” (26:14)• In the last conversation I had with him, I said “You’re over halfway done, you’re coming home soon“ and he was like, “I don’t think like that.” (29:14)• We had like 30 people in our house when they showed up. We got the knock at the door. (32:49)• One of my dad’s best friends that morning, woke up, got the KIA report, and saw Travis’ name on it. He said it was the hardest thing he ever had to do in his life - not pick up the phone and call my dad. (33:13)• The officer did what he had to do and he walked to his car, and about a half hour later, I looked out the window, and he was still parked outside and had his head on the s

The Gift: Phil Heath on Greatness, Grit, and the Mr. Olympia Mindset In this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus and Melanie are joined by none other than Phil Heath, a seven-time Mr. Olympia champion and one of the most iconic names in modern bodybuilding. Known as “The Gift,” Phil shares his journey from a basketball scholarship at the University of Denver to becoming one of the most genetically gifted and mentally driven athletes in bodybuilding history.In this conversation, Phil opens up about his early days as a collegiate athlete, how he transitioned into bodybuilding, and what it truly takes to stay at the top of your game—physically and mentally. He also discusses and what discipline looks like when the lights are off and the crowd is gone.Listen in as Phil also shares his endeavors in life after the stage—and what lies ahead.Whether you're into fitness, personal development, or stories of rising to the top against all odds, this is a powerful episode packed with wisdom from a true champion.In This Episode You Will Hear:• I was an athlete my whole life. (3:36)•  I was born in ’79. What a time to be alive. You saw greatness right in front of you through the athletes. (3:41)• Violence is everywhere. You just have to play life with your eyes open. (6:19)• I chose to be different. I was willing to be ridiculed by other people. I didn’t care. I just wanted to be focused, and always be competitive with myself. (7:04)• I always wanted to be stronger, faster, and show more grit. So, I always wanted to be leading at the front. (7:41)• Seeing other people’s life choices, and realizing that you have choices, and you have consequences. (8:13)• [I thought] maybe, just maybe, God’s got something for me. (18:04)• In my fifth year of college, I was looking for identity. (24:40)• Proverbs 27:17 “Iron sharpens iron.” (25:50)• Do your best. If you’re going to use social media, look at experts first. (30:30)• I wanted to understand the champions. (31:38)• I didn’t hire a coach or anything like that. I just trained with my friends and kinda - trial and error. (34:13)• Be honest with yourself, and never say quit. (34:24)• When I won the Mister USA competition in Las Vegas, 20 years ago – right before I go on stage, they come to my hotel room and they go “Here you go. You got the cover.” (37:44)• It’s so amazing how God works. We meet (Jay Cutler), we take this photo, and we become best of friends. (42:53)• Body building really is about validation in a way. (49:21)• On my worst day, I have to make that day the best day in the gym. (51:39)• [My dad used to say] “If I could put 2 feet on the ground, lace ‘em up, I can go to work.” (54:01)• I put in the work. I had no training partner. I don’t even know how I did it. (56:25)• I just knew that no matter what happens, I’m gonna be immortalized in history. (61:

DOOM 34: The 35-Hour Mission That Helped Launch Desert StormColonel Trey Morriss, U.S. Air Force (Ret.) is a former B-52 aviator, commander, and decorated combat veteran who served more than 31 years in support of the legendary Eighth Air Force. He joins Marcus and Melanie in the Team Never Quit podcast studio today. Colonel Morriss, a key figure in one of the most daring missions in modern military aviation, Trey was part of the record-setting opening strike of Desert Storm—the longest combat sortie in history at the time. After 9/11, he went on to fly 32 combat missions over Afghanistan and Iraq.In this week’s episode, Trey takes us inside Operation Senior Surprise, the highly classified 35-hour, 14,000-mile mission—nicknamed Secret Squirrel—that helped launch Operation Desert Storm. Before the first bombs ever hit Iraq in 1991, seven B-52s quietly lifted off from Louisiana carrying the weight of a mission so secret most of the crews hadn’t even known it existed until months earlier.What followed was one of the most extraordinary combat operations ever attempted: the first combat use of GPS-guided cruise missiles, a nonstop endurance test of grit and discipline, and a no-fail mission filled with life-or-death challenges. Trey recounts losing an engine minutes after takeoff, a near midair collision during night aerial refueling, and a dangerously low-fuel return across the Mediterranean.But this conversation is about more than aviation history. It’s about leadership under pressure, trust in the cockpit, accountability when everything is on the line, and the responsibility of earning the right to come home. Trey also reflects on the deeper meaning behind service and honoring those who have “gone west.”If you’re into B-52 bombers, Desert Storm, military aviation, leadership under stress, and stories of endurance against the odds, this is an episode you do not want to miss.In this episode you will hear:Support Tret:-order his book —>  https://amzn.to/4dmP77L- IG —> treymorrissSupport TNQ  - IG: team_neverquit , marcusluttrell , melanieluttrell , huntero13  -  https://www.patreon.com/teamneverquitSponsors:  - Navyfederal.org       - mengotomars.com [Team Never Quit]  - <a href=

From Victim to Victor: Wendi Rees on Faith, Trauma, and Unexpected Paths to HealingWhat if the tools for healing were already placed within God’s creation? And what if the journey toward restoration could be both deeply spiritual and profoundly transformative?This week’s Team Never Quit Podcast guest, Wendi Rees, is an author, speaker, and podcast host who brings a powerful testimony of faith, resilience, and healing. In her new book, The Christian’s Guide to Psychedelics: Finding Hope and Healing Through God’s Creation, Wendi explores a thoughtful and faith-centered perspective on the role certain substances—such as Ibogaine, Psilocybin, MDMA, and Ketamine—may play in addressing trauma, addiction, and depression.But at the heart of Wendi’s story is not a substance—it’s Jesus Christ.A survivor of childhood sexual abuse beginning at age 11, Wendi spent decades wrestling with the lasting effects of trauma, shame, and identity. Through faith, prayer, and a long journey of surrender, she discovered a powerful truth: the Bible does not define believers as victims, but as victors through Christ.In this deeply honest conversation, Wendi shares how learning to see herself through God’s eyes rather than the lens of trauma became a turning point in her life. She opens up about the difficulty of trusting others after abuse, the challenge of releasing burdens to God, and the transformative power of understanding the unconditional love of the Father.Wendi explains that her work and writing are not about promoting psychedelics—but about exploring whether some of God’s creations, when approached prayerfully and responsibly, might serve as tools that point people back to the ultimate source of healing: Jesus.Today, she helps individuals and groups walk through journeys of resilience, faith, and holistic wellness—encouraging people to move from pain toward restoration and from victimhood to victory.In this episode you will hear:• I grew up believing: drinking, drugs, and anything sexual was a one-way ticket to hell. (9:25) • When we moved to Texas, I was shocked to find out that not only were my parents getting divorced, but this other couple from our church was also getting divorced, and my dad was marrying her, and my mom was marrying him. So, they just swapped partners. (9:55)• Being the oldest kid, I provided the most sermon examples. (13:45)• Our corporal punishment, today would be [considered] child abuse. (14:01)• This was all going on while he was molesting me. (15:48)• I had five abusers. I did not have relationships with these other people like I did with my dad. (19:31)• I ended up in a topless bar almost over 2 years, trying to get back control over my body & my sexuality that had been stolen from me. (23:22)• When your dancing, you’re not praying. (25:20)• I saw God through the eyes of my father, very scary and ready to smite

From Navy SEAL to Venture Builder:Nuri Golan on Turning Elite Operators into Elite EntrepreneursIn this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus and Melanie are joined by Nuri Golan, a man who proves that elite performance doesn’t end when the uniform comes off — it evolves.A Veteran and Officer in the Israeli Navy SEALs, Nuri transitioned from high-stakes maritime operations to high-impact venture creation. Today, he is a serial entrepreneur, startup advisor, investor, and Managing Partner of Vetted — a powerful platform helping combat veterans build world-class companies.In this episode, Nuri shares how the mindset forged in special operations becomes a competitive advantage in the startup arena.Building & Exiting Multiple CompaniesNuri’s entrepreneurial track record is nothing short of remarkable:·         Co-Founder & CEO of EXO Technologies (acquired by Lear Corporation)·         Co-Founder of Navmatic (acquired by Superpedestrian)·         Co-Founder of SosivioAfter EXO’s acquisition, Nuri went on to lead Lear’s corporate venture arm — investing in startups and venture funds, gaining firsthand insight into what separates promising founders from scalable operators.He brings a rare perspective: he’s been the founder, the acquirer, and the investor.Vetted: Unlocking the Entrepreneurial Power of Combat VeteransToday, Nuri serves as Managing Partner of Vetted — an education, acceleration, and investment platform designed specifically for combat veterans from the U.S. and Israel.Through:·         The Vetted Startup Accelerator·         The Alpha-Bet Entrepreneurship ProgramVetted equips veterans with:·         Hands-on mentorship·         Early-stage funding·         Tactical business education·         A powerful cross-border founder & investor networkThe mission is clear: transform operational excellence into entrepreneurial success.Bridging Two Innovation PowerhousesAs an Israeli-American, Nuri is passionate about strengthening collaboration between U.S. and Israeli veteran communities — two ecosystems known for innovation, resilience, and leadership.He believes elite combat veterans represent one of the most untapped entrepreneurial resources in the world — disciplined, decisive, mission-driven leaders ready to build companies that matter.This conversation with Nuri Golan delivers powerful insight from someone who has operated — and succeeded — at the highest levels. In this episode you will hear:• By the time he was 19 or 20 [my grandfather] had already graduated from college and was in the U.S. Army. (8:31)• You don’t have to precheck in Israel because it’s mandatory service for Israeli’s. (9:25)• We saw our family with tattoos on their arms from death camps and concentration camps they were sent to. (19:19)• In

Protecting the Voiceless: Bill Waybourn on Human Trafficking and Hidden AbuseThis week, Marcus and Melanie sit down with one of Texas’ most respected law enforcement leaders and advocates for the vulnerable — Sheriff Bill Waybourn.With more than three decades of service, Bill’s career has been defined by courage, conviction, and a relentless commitment to protecting both communities and the voiceless.From pioneering groundbreaking DWI reform programs to shaping Texas firearm legislation, Bill has stood at the intersection of public safety, constitutional rights, and moral responsibility.But beyond the badge, Bill’s story is also one of deep compassion — especially when it comes to children in need.Bill served 31 years as Chief of Police in Dalworthington Gardens, where he became a recognized expert witness and leader in statewide criminal justice reform.He is credited with pioneering the Texas “No Refusal” DWI program, a model that has significantly reduced drunk driving fatalities and has since been adopted by multiple states.Bill has also testified before the Texas Legislature on a myriad of key issues.Bill is especially honored to have helped pass the Chris Kyle Bill, which streamlines the process for military servicemen and women transitioning into law enforcement careers.His dedication to veterans and service members reflects a lifelong commitment to those who have sacrificed for this country.During his first term as Sheriff, Bill launched several nationally recognized initiatives, including a Human Trafficking Unit, a Department of Intelligence, aggressive inmate service programs, less-than-lethal training expansion, and cutting-edge departmental reforms.Bill and his wife Laura Waybourn are the proud parents of ten children, eight of whom have been adopted.Together, they are passionate advocates for children without families, and their lives are rooted in service far beyond law enforcement.A Heartbreaking Story of Survival: AlyssaOne of the most emotional moments in this episode comes as Bill shares the story of his foster daughter Alyssa, who endured horrific medical abuse as a toddler.He recounts how Alyssa was severely malnourished, weighing only 18 pounds, dehydrated, and tragically harmed by her biological mother through Munchausen syndrome by proxy — a form of abuse where caregivers fabricate illness for attention or control.Under proper medical care, Alyssa began to flourish — but her story shines a light on a rarely discussed form of child abuse that demands awareness and action.This conversation is equal parts intense, inspiring, and deeply human — a reminder that real leadership means protecting those who cannot protect themselves.In this episode you will hear:• My dad believed in practical lessons. After bragging that I was the best cowboy on the ground today, and my dad put me on a

Forged by Fire: Jesse James on Craftsmanship, Controversy, and ReinventionThis week, Marcus and Melanie sit down with Jesse James, one of the most influential custom motorcycle builders of the modern era. A fabricator at heart and an old-school craftsman by trade, Jesse is best known as the founder of West Coast Choppers, a brand that redefined the custom chopper world with raw metal, rigid frames, and uncompromising attention to detail.Jesse’s journey began in his mother’s garage, where he learned the art of fabrication under the mentorship of legendary hot rod builder Boyd Coddington. What started as a passion for building with his hands quickly evolved into a full-scale operation in Long Beach, California—one that would grow to employ more than 50 people and produce hand-built motorcycles commanding prices from $50,000 to $150,000.His rise to national fame came through the Discovery Channel’s Motorcycle Mania, which gave viewers an unfiltered look into his shop, his process, and his relentless standards. That exposure led to Monster Garage, cementing Jesse as a household name and a defining figure in reality-based automotive television.Known for crafting—not assembling—his bikes, Jesse’s signature style emphasizes stretched frames, precision metalwork, and function-driven design over flash. His work has been commissioned by high-profile clients including Kid Rock and Shaquille O'Neal, further solidifying his influence across culture, sports, and entertainment.In 2010, after facing both personal and business challenges, Jesse closed the original West Coast Choppers headquarters and relocated to Texas. There, he rebuilt—both personally and professionally—continuing to create custom machines and expanding into new ventures, including firearms manufacturing and direct-to-consumer media through platforms like OTLW.tv.In this episode, Jesse opens up about learning discipline and skill the hard way, building a brand from nothing, the cost of fame and fast success, and why craftsmanship, grit, and honesty still matterThis is a raw, no-nonsense conversation about earning your skills, owning your mistakes, and building something real—one weld at a time.In this episode you will hear:• I went to Iraq in ’03, a month after we invaded. We did a USO tour and Kid Rock went and invited me. Nobody from USO knew who I was, so I told them I was, so I lied and said I was his tour manager. (1:13)• I ended up going t jail my senior year for stealing cars. (14:47)• I went to college and it was like crabs trying to get out of a barrel. (15:25)• I was always working in the garage, building bikes. I had a Harley in High school. I was restoring bicycles, and building Volkswagons and sending them to Japan. I was hustling. (16:11)• From my parents being antique dealers, I had a huge, pretty valuable tin toy collection. Like really rare Mark 10 t

Making the Invisible Visible: A SEAL’s Mission to Redefine Mental HealthThis week on the Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus and Melanie sit down with Jonathan Wilson, founder and CEO of INVI MindHealth, a groundbreaking mental-health technology company built on one powerful mission: to save and improve lives by making the invisible visible.Jonathan’s journey is anything but ordinary. He began his professional career serving over a decade as a United States Navy SEAL, deploying to multiple combat theaters across several SEAL Teams. After leaving active duty, he carried the mindset of service into the private sector—first as an equity trader at Goldman Sachs in New York City, and later at Capital Group.In 2012, Jonathan co-founded and led the SEAL Future Foundation (SFF), a 501(c)(3) dedicated to supporting Navy SEALs in their transition beyond service. Under his leadership, SFF has helped thousands of SEALs and returned millions of dollars to the community—providing support in education, career development, and long-term well-being so operators can continue a life of service.Now, through INVI MindHealth, Jonathan is tackling one of the most critical challenges facing both the military and civilian worlds: mental health. INVI’s technology leverages objective data to provide early insight, awareness, and intervention—bridging the gap between how someone looks on the outside and what’s happening on the inside.Jonathan also brings elite academic credentials to the table, holding an MBA from the University of Oxford and graduating from the Program for Leadership Development at Harvard Business School.This is a conversation about purpose, prevention, and pushing the mission forward—no matter the battlefield.In this episode you will hear:• I inevitably landed on a book that I found from Vietnam: The Frogman Book and I thought: “What is this?” I read that and I was like: “This is it. This is what I wanna be.” (24:39)• Looking back now, I think the Lord is probably teaching me a lesson. I got caught with a fake ID card. You’re done. From that point I hit one of lowest points. (27:22)• [I went to SEAL] Team 4. We ended up going to Bagdad. I did back-to back. It’s what team guys want. We were doing DA’s, hostage rescues; we were operating damn near every night. (45:16)• After being married and with 5 kids, and we had lost a lot of friends – maybe it’s time to get out and I agreed. (48:04)• In my head I was thinking, what’s the next hardest thing? That’s how my brain thinks. (48:40)• I didn’t think I’d fit outside. I partially still feel that way. (50:32)• SEALS wasn’t my purpose. I think being a father and a Christian is. But I think the Lord put me on this planet to really see this business we’re creating of helping as many people as possible with their mental suicide. Empowering them to be the best version of themselves they can be. (55:13)•

Mind Over Body they’re afraid of getting mangled. (59:06)• You can drill and hammer your training so hard, but at the end of the day you can’t help where a bullet might fly. (60:04)•

Eight Deployments, One Mission: Chad Robichaux and the Call to Never QuitWhat an incredible guest we have on this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast.Marcus engages in a compelling discussion with former Force Recon Marine, Chad Robichaux. With eight deployments to Afghanistan as part of a Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) Task Force, Chad overcame his personal battles with PTSD after nearly becoming a veteran suicide statistic.Chad is the founder of the Mighty Oaks Foundation, serving the active duty, military veteran and first responder communities around the world with highly successful faith-based combat trauma and resiliency programs. He has spoken to over 450,000 active-duty troops and led life-saving programs for over 4,600 active military and veterans at four Mighty Oaks Ranches around the U.S. He has served as an advisor to former President Trump, Congress, the VA, and the Department of Defense.Another one of Chad’s personal endeavors, Save Our Allies, is focused on the evacuation and recovery of Americans, our allies and vulnerable people still trapped in Afghanistan. His original mission was to rescue his long-time friend and Afghanistan interpreter, but the mission quickly evolved because of Chad’s compassion for people and his servant heart. Since its inception, Save Our Allies has safely evacuated over 17,000 people that were trapped in Afghanistan and he is now helping in Ukraine.As if that weren’t enough, Chad is a lifelong martial artist. He holds a 4th degree Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Black Belt and is a former Professional Mixed Martial Arts Champion having competed at the highest levels of the sport. In this episode you will hear:• My family has 84 years of military service. (11:27)• I was raised in a very dysfunctional home because my father never recovered from Vietnam. (13:15)• Our operation was compromised and I ended up being abducted. (26:53)• On the surface, everything seemed fine. Then I crashed, had an affair, filed for divorce, and attempted to take my life. The some amazing people came around me and helped us to restore my family and my faith. (30:38)• I tried to build the courage to take my life and I had my Glock 40 caliber pistol, but I was interrupted, and it was enough to pump the brakes. (31:18)• My wife asked me: “How can you do all you did in the military, but when it comes to your family, you’ll quit?” (32:23)• You’re gonna deal with anxiety, depression, and anger, but you could respond to it in a better way that could lead you to a better place. (35:35)• God’s like a centerpiece solution, because a lot of what we deal with are spiritual wounds. (36:29)• President Bush signed the Opportunity for Faith Mission in 2001, then in 2009, President Obama signed a policy to override that, and take funding away from faith-based programs. (49:47)• In Afghanistan, people couldn’t go in to help, but in Ukraine

Fighter Pilot Survival: Kegan Gill's Battle Beyond the BattlefieldIn this extraordinary episode, Marcus and Melanie meet with retired U.S. Navy Fighter Pilot Kegan Gill, whose story is nothing short of miraculous. Kegan survived a catastrophic ejection from his aircraft during a training mission over the Atlantic Ocean, where he ejected directly into the sound barrier. The injuries he sustained in that moment were severe enough to kill most people – his limbs torn apart and a traumatic brain injury among them. But Kegan's ordeal was only beginning.Plunged into the icy waters of the Atlantic with his parachute still attached, his wetsuit torn, and his arms unable to move, Kegan was forced to endure a two-hour battle with hypothermia as rescue teams raced to find him. Miraculously, his hypothermic state prevented fatal blood loss. Following this harrowing experience, Kegan faced months of grueling recovery, eventually achieving a perfect Physical Fitness Test score and returning to flight duty.However, Kegan’s journey didn’t end with physical recovery. He began experiencing severe psychotic episodes due to his brain injury, leading to a stint in a VA Mental Health Facility. Pharmaceutical treatments only worsened his symptoms, and he endured dehumanizing treatment from caregivers who misunderstood his unique needs.Now, Kegan is finding renewed hope through alternative treatments for brain health. Through the Warrior Angels Foundation, he has discovered the power of nutraceutical and hormonal interventions, offering a glimmer of healing. Beyond his personal health battles, Kegan is a dedicated father and husband, working tirelessly to support his young family.Join us as Kegan opens up about his incredible journey of survival, resilience, and healing. His story is as inspiring as it is shocking – a testament to human strength and the will to overcome even the darkest of circumstances.Tune in to hear a story of grit, determination, and the relentless pursuit of healing against all odds. In This Episode You Will Hear:• When I was about 10 years old, my family had a friend that had a Cessna, and he took me up on this lawnmower with wings, and we went buzzing around, and it felt like a freakin’ rocket ship. I absolutely loved being above the earth, and I felt so free. (6:36)• In May of 2012, I graduated as a winged aviator, and I got those wings pinned on my chest. (23:40)• [Marcus] It’s an absolute transition into a different human being the minute those wings touch your chest. (24:02)• [In flight school] you showed up there, and you had your wings, and you thought you made it. They made it very clear you have not made anything yet. (26:40)• It just so happened on this day there was a 16 foot, 3,500 pound Great White Shark named Mary Lee directly under my airspace, and my buddy pointed out, “Hey man, Today would be a terrible day to eject,” an

This episode includes sensitive content and may be difficult for some listeners. Listener discretion is advised.On July 4th, a devastating flood swept through Kerrville, Texas, forever altering countless lives. Among those impacted was John Dustin Ledford, whose world was turned upside down as he began a desperate search for his sister, brother-in-law, and young nephew in the chaotic aftermath of the storm.In this heartbreaking and deeply human episode of the Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus and Melanie meet with Dustin, who courageously shares the raw details of those terrifying hours and days — the uncertainty, the fear, and the relentless determination to find his family amid overwhelming destruction. His story offers a firsthand look at what it’s like when celebration turns to catastrophe in an instant, and how faith, grit, and community become lifelines when hope feels fragile.This conversation is not just about loss and tragedy — it’s about love, perseverance, and the unbreakable bonds of family. Dustin’s account reminds us of the real people behind the headlines and the lasting emotional impact disasters leave behind long after the waters recede.In this episode, we discuss:•            The events leading up to the July 4th Kerrville flood•            The moment Dustin realized his family was missing•            The emotional toll of searching amid chaos and uncertainty•            The role of community, first responders, and strangers during tragedy•            How grief, hope, and resilience collide in moments of crisisThis is a powerful, sobering episode that honors those affected by the Kerrville flood and gives voice to the families who continue to carry its weight.In this episode you will hear:• Went to the police academy fulltime while working full time at the fire department. Got into arson investigating. (20:18)•  [His sister, Brother-In-Law, and nephew] were in a camper on their truck in Ingram right next to the river. (43:24)• Starting at 45:12 John begins to share the heart-wrenching details of his search for his sister, brother-in-law, and nephew. The story continues through the end of the episode describing the conditions, the myriad of people and departments participating in the search for friends, family, and loved ones.• I don’t even know if they knew it was raining because it was hot and they had the generator going. It’s loud. (45:12)• When I got there, it was very chaotic. A lot of parents down the parking lot. (53:13)• It was about midnight on July 4th when I called to report them missing. (60:20)• One of the ladies [at the church] said “we’re out of air mattresses, but I’ve got a spot for you. She takes me upstairs and gives me a prayer room with a couch (63:31)• Sitting at these tables with these dads – I can’t even begin to fathom. (67:30)• Starting

Rising Above: From Runaway Kid to Green Beret, Cop, and CreatorThis week’s Team Never Quit episode brings you a raw, unfiltered, and deeply inspiring conversation with Sean Rogers - a man who has lived several lifetimes’ worth of adversity, discipline, transformation, and impact.From a desert town to the global stage, Rogers’ story is one of resilience forged under pressure. Born in California and raised in Phelan, his early years were marked by chaos and instability. After running away from home as a teenager, he refused to let hardship dictate his future. He finished high school on his own terms and made the bold choice to enlist in the military, setting into motion a journey that would change everything.While on active duty, Sean began his formal education and pushed himself academically with the same intensity he brought to training. He earned a master’s degree in organizational leadership—all while pursuing the grueling path to become a U.S. Army Special Forces Green Beret. Two deployments later, he transitioned to a new mission: serving his community as a police officer. What he witnessed on the streets during the riots following the death of George Floyd would reshape his understanding of leadership, culture, communication, and human behavior.But Sean’s story didn’t stop there.Driven to help the next generation of warriors, he founded The FNG Academy, an online platform designed to prepare aspiring Special Forces candidates for the mental, physical, and emotional challenges of selection. What started as a simple resource has grown into a thriving YouTube community, a robust online store, and a dedicated team committed to equipping others to step into their potential with confidence.He later chronicled his incredible life journey in his autobiography, Rising Above, a book that captures the honesty, grit, and self-discovery that have shaped his path.Sean Rogers embodies what it means to overcome circumstances, own your story, and turn pain into purpose. Whether you’re chasing personal growth, preparing for a demanding path, or simply looking for motivation to push through your own challenges, this is an episode you won’t want to miss.In this episode you will hear:• Recently, I finally figured out that God is what I needed to be chasing. (5:27)• I got a Master’s Degree. I ran marathons. I ran ultra marathons. Trying to fill that void. I got Special Forces; I went police officer. Everything I thought would help – none of it helped. (6:49)• They develop this fear in you that if you get found out by CPS, you’re gonna get separated from your siblings. So, you start learning how to hide what’s going on at home. (11:06)• I used to run away constantly – to all my family member’s houses, and the cops would go get me and bring me back. (18:03)• [I wanted to die] I had one of two directions to go: either get worse, and then she’s gonna look

From Battlefield to Boardroom:A Global Legacy of Courage, Compassion & LeadershipThis week, the Team Never Quit Podcast welcomes a truly extraordinary guest: Dr. Sudip Bose — emergency physician, Iraq War veteran, entrepreneur, medical innovator, and one of the world’s most dynamic voices at the intersection of medicine, military leadership, and business.Few leaders embody resilience and global perspective the way Dr. Bose does. His story spans continents, combat zones, emergency rooms, and corporate boardrooms—all shaped by deep heritage and a lifelong commitment to service.A Legacy Rooted in Courage and HeritageBorn in the United States to parents who emigrated from Kolkata, Dr. Bose carries a powerful cultural heritage. Fluent in Bengali and proud of his lineage, he is a descendant of:·         Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose, legendary freedom fighter·         Jagadish Chandra Bose, pioneering scientist·         Satyendra Nath Bose, the physicist behind the concept of bosonsTheir spirit of bravery, intellectual curiosity, and innovation lives on in Dr. Bose’s own journey.Leadership Forged in WarDr. Bose’s leadership was tested early—on the front lines of Iraq as a U.S. Army physician under the most intense combat conditions. He earned the Bronze Star Medal for his service and was entrusted with treating Saddam Hussein after his capture.More than the accolades, the battlefield taught him the principles that guide his life:·         Stay calm when others panic·         Find clarity in chaos·         Turn adversity into opportunity·         Let heritage and values anchor global impactThese lessons follow him into every trauma bay, boardroom, and keynote stage he steps into today.From the ER to the Global StageAfter returning from combat, Dr. Bose transitioned into civilian life—continuing his work as an emergency physician while expanding his influence across medicine, media, innovation, and policy. His roles include:·         Executive Producer of Desert Doc, the Telly Award–winning Amazon Prime docuseries revealing the realities of emergency medicine·         Founder of The Battle Continues, a nonprofit supporting injured combat veterans·         EMS Medical Director for the largest geographic hospital coverage area in the U.S.—19 counties and 38,000 square miles·         Advisory Board Member for DrB.ai, a global digital health platform increasing access to affordable care·         Trusted Advisor to the U.S. Congress on healthcare policy·         Keynote Speaker for Fortune

The Trident: Leadership Lessons from the Battlefield to the BoardroomThis week, Marcus, Melanie welcome an extraordinary warrior, leader, and encourager—Jason Redman, retired Navy SEAL, bestselling author, and one of the most respected voices on resilience and overcoming adversity.Jason served 21 years in the U.S. Navy, including 11 years as an enlisted SEAL and 10 years as a SEAL officer, leading combat operations across the globe. His career is a study in grit, redemption, and relentless dedication—from early deployments in Central and South America to commanding SEAL teams in Iraq and Afghanistan.But Jason’s life shifted forever on September 13, 2007, when he was acting as Assault Force Commander during a mission in Iraq. An enemy ambush erupted. Jason was shot eight times, including a devastating gunshot wound to the face. His team fought through, secured the target, and saved his life.What followed was a recovery few could imagine: 40 surgeries, months in the hospital, and a battle not just for survival, but for identity, leadership, and purpose. Jason didn’t just recover—he returned to active duty and continued serving until retirement in 2013. His courage, valor, and leadership earned him the Purple Heart, Bronze Star with Valor, and the respect of warriors around the world. Why This Episode MattersJason Redman has become one of the most powerful voices in America on resilience. His life is proof that the human spirit can rise, rebuild, and lead again—no matter the setback. Whether you’re fighting through a personal battle, searching for purpose, or simply need a reminder of what true grit looks like, Jason’s story will challenge, encourage, and strengthen you.In this episode you will hear:• The very first book I bought about the SEAL teams - I was in a truck stop and there was a case of books you could buy for a buck. There was a book about SEAL operations in Vietnam. Four years later, I checked into SEAL Team 4. (6:22)• I was about 95lbs and 5’ tall at 15, and that recruiter took one look at me, and was like: “You are not what the SEALS are looking for.” (7:40)• There are way more operational opportunities for enlisted SEALS than there are for officers. (20:44)• Seaman to Admiral takes individuals who don’t have a degree. They send them to school. It’s an accelerated program. You’re part of the ROTC program. You commission out of that and you come back as a SEAL officer. (24:02)• We were all bleeding so bad, and it created this mist in the helicopter of blood. The entire inside of the helicopter was coated in blood. (43:06)• My recovery time took 4 years and 40 surgeries to put me back together. (43:38)• Be thankful for the hardships you have in life and for hard things that happen because I think they set you up for success in other things. (43:48)• Me failing as a leader was probably the hardest thing I’

From a U. S. Army Combat Veteran Mindset to Tractor Supply Leadership: Building Teams, Safety, and Continuous ImprovementThis week, Marcus and Melanie welcome Rodney Bailey, a devoted husband, father, and decorated U.S. Army combat veteran whose leadership has been shaped by four combat tours and distinguished honors, including the Purple Heart and Meritorious Service Medal.He now applies that mission-driven discipline at Tractor Supply Company, where he leads operations and continuous improvement initiatives that strengthen safety, streamline performance, and unlock millions in new production capacity.A Lean Six Sigma Black Belt and Human Performance Advocate, Rodney is committed to developing leaders and building teams who pursue excellence with pride and purpose. A lifelong learner who embraces challenge, he is currently earning his Doctorate in Business with a focus on Strategy and Innovation. Through it all, he remains anchored in faith, family, and service—values that also inspired his children’s book, God Is Bigger Than a Bear. A National Impact Rooted in CommunityMarcus and Melanie also welcome Lindsay Grayson, who serves as the Chief Revenue Officer at K9s For Warriors, overseeing the Development and Marketing teams as she drives brand visibility, deepens donor engagement, and accelerates revenue growth for the nation’s largest provider of trained service dogs for military veterans.Since joining the organization, Lindsay has reshaped its fundraising trajectory—boosting revenue by 70% in her first year and leading K9s For Warriors to a historic, record-setting year of giving in 2023. Her performance and impact earned her recognition as a Jacksonville Business Journal Women of Influence honoree.Prior to her nonprofit leadership career, Lindsay worked as a financial advisor with Merrill Lynch, guiding clients through strategic planning and long-term financial goals. A Jacksonville native and proud spouse of an Air Force veteran and First Responder, she finds joy in family time, travel, live music, and cheering on her children, Lucas and Ebby.In This Episode You Will Hear:• At redeployment, something happened to me. During Ramadi, they started really looking at traumatic brain injuries. They started putting sensors in the helmets. (30:34)• If you didn’t lose a liter of blood or you’re not missing a body part, it’s Ibuprofen & water. (30:54)• When I got back and they hooked up my helmet, and they’re like: “something’s up.” (31:02)• At 31:10, Rodney tells of one of his traumatic brain injury events as a 50 cal gunner. [He hit the gun at 20mph. It was the only thing that kept him from being thrown from the vehicle.• I did about 5 months in another deployment and was Medivacked out to Germany with another head injury. (32:29)• It wasn’t like I had to learn to walk again. I had to learn how to walk straigh

From the Skies Over Vietnam to the Power of Healing — The Story of Mike Penn This week’s Team Never Quit guest, Mike Penn, embodies courage, resilience, and grace under pressure. A Navy fighter pilot who served in Vietnam over 50 years ago, Penn’s life took a dramatic turn on August 6, 1972, during his 85th combat mission off the USS Midway. Shot down and captured by enemy forces, he endured eight harrowing months as a POW in Hanoi, facing starvation, torture, and isolation. Losing 60 pounds and battling injuries from the crash, he survived where many did not.Upon returning home, Penn continued to serve his country before transitioning to a long and successful career as an airline pilot. Yet, his greatest battles weren’t fought in the skies—they were fought within. Like countless Veterans, Penn wrestled with PTSD and alcoholism, learning that even the strongest warriors can’t always go it alone.Penn credits his recovery and renewed purpose to sheer determination, the support of fellow Veterans, and the care he received through the Houston VA, which later discovered a life-threatening cancer during a routine scan—saving his life once again.Today, Penn continues to inspire others through motivational speaking, encouraging Veterans to seek help, share their stories, and lean on one another. His outlook remains deeply positive: despite his suffering, he still calls it “an honor to serve.”Join us as we hear Mike Penn’s incredible journey—from fighter pilot to prisoner of war to survivor and mentor. His story is a testament to resilience, faith, and the healing power of community.Thank you, Mike Penn, for your honorable service—and for reminding us that healing begins when we choose to reach out.In this episode you will hear:• [Marcus] If you’re struggling in college, get your butt in the military for4-6 years, come back, and you’ll scream right through it. (6:54)• To get on the Blue Angels demo pilot team, they vote on you. It’s a good ol’ boy system. If any one guy says no, you’re done. (9:30)• Out of nowhere this Marine Corps Master Gunnery Sergeant shows up right in my face. And he starts yelling at me, and honestly, I thought I was in the wrong place. When he gets through yelling at me, he says “You got anything to say for yourself you smart ass college boy?” I put my hand on his shoulder, looked him in the eyes, and I called him “sarge,” I said “Sarge, I really think I’m in the wrong place, because I cam down here to be a Navy jet pilot.” Boom! He threw me on the ground. I’ve never done so many push ups in my life. (12:21)• He got me in such good officer shape; I ended up becoming the Regimental Commander.  (13:19)• Landing at night is so difficult, because in the daytime you have depth perception. You’re looking at the “Meatball,” the optical landing system. Line up with the ship, and your air speed. At night you can’t see anything. (19:

From the Battlefield to Breakthrough: The Kalob Creighton StoryThis week on the Team Never Quit Podcast, we sit down with Special Forces Green Beret Kalob Creighton, whose story embodies the essence of courage, faith, and the power of healing.Kalob’s journey began on the battlefield—serving his nation with honor and sacrifice. But his most life-changing battle didn’t happen overseas; it happened at home. During a late-night burglary attempt, Kalob was shot while shielding his toddler from danger. The bullet remains lodged near his spine—a constant reminder of that night and the uncertainty that followed.Yet Kalob’s story doesn’t end with pain; it continues with purpose. Through his partnership with RejuvStem, Kalob has discovered the transformative potential of regenerative medicine. His recovery is more than physical—it’s a story of restored hope, renewed strength, and a return to life fully lived.Join Marcus and Melanie as they explore how Kalob’s warrior mindset, combined with groundbreaking medical innovation, has redefined what it means to overcome. This episode is a powerful testament to resilience, family, and the mission to heal, restore, and give back the chance at life that so many fight for.Listen now to hear Kalob’s incredible journey of survival, innovation, and strength—reminding us all why we never quit. In this episode you will hear:• You know how you go through stuff in training where it just sucks so bad it stops sucking? The “give a fuck” goes away. (15:20)• The Delta course is crazy. You see guys cut open. Until I hit A&P and we started putting fingers in asses. (27:17)• You have to learn the hard way sometimes. (37:34)• [My father] He may not do it the right way himself, but he wanted us to do it the right way, and he taught us some morals and values. (37:50)• [My dad] was a great human. [He’d] shake your hand. That’s what meant more than a contract. (38:00)• When you’re switching from something that’s high octane like this driven purpose in a team environment. You walk out and you’re like “where’s my team at? (42:52)• I’m all in. 100 miles an hour. Full throttle. Let’s go. (43:12)• I got shot by a guy named “Keypad.” (61:26)• That was the best thing that happened to me. I needed the wake-up call. It was God saying “listen up, dude.” (63:44)• Like life #7. Pay attention, bro. (63:54)• I got the feeling back in my right leg. In my left leg it never returned. (64:23)• I’m sitting the just asking God, “When do guys like me quit? When do we throw in the towel? (70:11)• I really brought in the realization of what’s important. If this does not have a purpose – change it. (80:03)Support Kalob:  - IG: kalobcreighton  - Green Hat Defens

More Than the Uniform: Greg Froelick’s Pursuit of PurposeThis week on the Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus and Melanie sit down with former Navy SEAL and private aviation businessman*, Greg Froelick—a man who has dedicated his life to excellence, discipline, and service both on and off the battlefield.Greg’s journey began after college, when he chose to serve his country and earned his place among the elite ranks of the U.S. Navy SEAL Teams. His time in special operations sharpened his perspective on resilience, teamwork, and intentional living—lessons he now carries into every corner of his life.After leaving the military, Greg transitioned into the medical sales industry, where he quickly proved himself in a competitive arena. His combination of grit, professionalism, and mission-focused thinking eventually opened the door to his next chapter with EMCJET, a premier group in the private aviation space. Today, he plays a key role on the EMCJET team, helping deliver world-class service with a warrior’s level of precision and accountability.Greg recounts his experience aiding in the recovery efforts following the July 4th Camp Mystic flood disaster. He and Marcus reflect on their immediate decision to head to the affected area, coordinating the logistics required to make a meaningful impact—joining forces with several fellow Navy SEALs to provide help where it was needed most.Greg’s story is a reminder that your mission doesn’t end when one chapter closes. Whether in uniform or in business, he continues to serve — helping others live with intention.In this episode you will hear:• We shouldn’t be on no defense - Department of Defense. This is the Department of War. We don’t go on defense. You step up, and we’ll come in and crush the shit out of you. (19:02)• Got into private aviation. It’s like a real estate agent for private jets. (22:46)• [The gate at Camp Mystic] was twisted. You can’t talk about it and do it justice – the way it was twisted steel. (34:46)• We’re not by any means a search and rescue outfit, but we knew that we could help. (36:31)• We’re this close to being signed up to be a care coalition. It’s a safe place to land. (36:51)• You’re at that point where “I hope I don’t find anything” [and at the same time] “I hope I find it.” (41:01)• When the cadaver dogs showed up and the backhoe maintainers showed up – Game Changers. (41:16)• The one’s that’ll never get any attention or no one will ever know who they are the drivers of the maintainers. (41:51)• How many times did we walk on somebody before we even found ‘em, because they were buried under the dirt from the Cypress trees. (43:30)• This is why it was key to have the cadaver dogs because of everything else that was dead around it: horses, pigs, deer, dogs. (44:02)• Everything aside from the situation – A lot of good came from all that. (46:55)• The more pe

From Marine… to Green Beret… to Peacemaker This week, Marcus and Melanie sit down with an unconventional warrior with an unconventional calling—Christian Hickey, Founder and CEO of the Triple A Authority Foundation, husband, father of three, Marine, Police Officer, Green Beret, and now… missionary on the front lines of Ukraine. Christian’s journey reads like a novel you’d assume was fiction—yet every chapter is true. For over 15 years of military service and 15 years in law enforcement, Christian has lived a life of duty—to God, to his country, and to his community. His time as a United States Marine and later as a U.S. Army Green Beret gave him the tactical expertise to operate in the world’s harshest conflict zones. But it was behind the badge, on the streets of American neighborhoods, that he honed a different weapon—the power of communication. “As a police officer, I learned to listen and speak to people in a meaningful manner. Those communication skills allowed me to solve problems, restore peace, and bring change.” Christian earned his Associate Degree in Criminal Justice and is currently completing a Bachelor’s in Evangelism at Liberty University. Yet nothing could have prepared him for the mission God would call him to next. At age 41, he found himself on the frontline in a small Ukrainian village, serving not as a soldier, but as a missionary—bringing aid, hope, and the Gospel into a war zone. “If you had asked me six months prior, I would’ve never guessed I’d be in Ukraine serving as an unconventional missionary. But God knew what to do with a born-again Christian, Marine, Police Officer, and Green Beret.” Through his foundation, Triple A Authority, Christian combines faith, humanitarian work, and tactical mission skills to reach the unreachable and serve those in the shadow of war. His story is a reminder that purpose isn’t always found in comfort—sometimes it’s found in chaos, obedience, and calling. This episode is a powerful reminder that service can take many forms—and that sometimes the most dangerous places reveal the deepest purpose. Christian Hickey is a man living out his faith with courage, humility, and conviction—and his story will challenge, inspire, and move you. In this episode you will hear: • What really pushed me into the military was that I wanted to become a deputy Sheriff. (13:01) • I accepted Christ when I was a young man, but I’ve always been intentional with my faith.  (30:38) • God was real to me. He said “I’m calling you into ministry now.” I still don’t know what that meant at the time. (31:35) • I believe that the season that you’re in now; God is preparing you for the next season. (32:41) • I was following Psalms: 105, the lit path for me to continue to go. (35:17) • When you’ve got all of the DOD behind you, you don’t carry much fear with you. (41:21) • When Jesus is in charge of

From SEAL to Studio: The Art of Grit with Justin HughesIn this week’s episode of the Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus, Melanie, and Hunter sit down with Justin Hughes — former Navy SEAL turned professional oil painter — whose journey from the battlefield to the art studio embodies the essence of transformation, discipline, and creative courage.Based out of Charleston, South Carolina, Justin has redefined what it means to serve and to create. As a self-taught representational artist, he channels the lessons, emotions, and intensity of his time in the SEAL Teams into his paintings, merging the warrior spirit with the sensitivity of the fine arts. His mission is to bridge two seemingly distant worlds — the world of combat and the world of creativity — revealing that both demand vision, perseverance, and heart.Listeners will hear how Justin’s childhood in Southeast Asia, and a fateful encounter with Lone Survivor sparked a dream that would change his life forever. His story takes us through the rigors of SEAL training, moments of doubt and triumph, and the eventual transition from military service to artistry — a path shaped by struggle, purpose, and redemption.Through his brushstrokes, Justin explores what it means to be a modern warrior — one who fights not only on the battlefield but also in the soul. Drawing comparisons to the renaissance genius Leonardo da Vinci, Hughes uses his art to express the beauty within discipline and the strength found in vulnerability. In this episode you will hear:• My dad was a Huey pilot. (8:44)• I grew up all over Southeast Asia (9:20)• I was thinking: Whatever is gonna be the hardest thing to do in the military; wherever that realm is, those are the people that want to be in those jobs the most. That’s gotta be where my people are at. (14:41)•  One of the biggest misconceptions of BUDs is you can’t just show up and not quit. You still have to be a good team guy. You still have to do the work. You gotta be a performer. You gotta be a pro. We’re looking for the whole man. (21:05)• For those of you who don’t know what pool competency is. It’s the hardest single test in BUDs. (37:55)• When I first started painting, I didn’t know any artists. I didn’t know anything about art. (62:48)• [Melanie] Q: What’s your goal with art? A: Just to be better every day. And continue to provide paintings that are meaningful to people. To glorify the Lord through whatever work I’m doing. (74:30)• I’m still saying “Hooyah! like turrets. (75:25)• It takes a lot of bad work. You’ve gotta be patient with the process. Sometimes a really good thing will look really bad for a long time for a long time before you can polish it up and make it into something beautiful. So… don’t quit. (86:43)Support Justin:www.justinhughesart.com  - IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.co

A Real American – Born in Poland.In this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus I am not “Something”-American. There is no hyphen. I’m just American.• I spent 20 years as a Navy SEAL.• [My grandmother] taught me how to pray, and what to pray for.• I still remember her [grandmother’s] words: “Poland is not free. It will not be free until we get rid of these people.• [When my father found out] I was not allowed to pray with my grandmother alone.• Prison time for me was education. A huge education about Polish history.• I’ll be the best US citizen America can have.• The law was created in the socialist state to penalize free thinking. To criminalize opposition. • America was built on the idea of personal freedom.• These people [Ukranians] are fighting for their lives now - freedom.• Ukranians were always very patriotic.• [Navy SEALS Fund] The way we operate is different than most charities. We don’t have paid positions. The fund is run by SEALS only.• We help the Gold Start families: the spouse, the children, parents and siblings.There would be no Drago if not for people like Marcus, Morgan, Rob, Tage, Taco, & Jocco.• I’m a better American today than I was yesterday, and I want to be a better American tomorrow than I am today.• My biggest accomplishment is becoming a U.S. citizen.Support TNQ  - IG: team_neverquit , marcusluttrell , melanieluttrell , huntero13  -  <a href

The Crawl: How Jake Schmitt Survived a Mountain Crash — Thanks to His DogIn this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus & Melanie sit down with Utah hunting guide Jake Schmitt to hear his incredible story of survival in the Uintah Mountains. What began as a summer scouting trip for mule deer turned into an 11-hour crawl for his life — with only his dog, Buddy, by his side.Jake shares how he went from releasing an elk calf from a trap to being crushed in a UTV rollover, and how his knowledge of self-rescue, grit, and an extraordinary bond with his German shorthaired pointer helped him make it out alive. What You’ll Learn in This Episode:• How a routine scouting trip in the Uintah Mountains went horribly wrong• The split-second decisions that led to the UTV rollover and Jake’s devastating injuries• Why his dog Buddy became the key to his survival — providing motivation & warmth• Field-tested self-rescue skills every outdoorsperson should know• Jake’s recovery process, and how he’s preparing to return to the mountains and the buck he first spottedKey Moments:• The Hunt: Scouting for a velvet mule deer buck in remote country• The Rescue: Freeing an elk calf from a trap moments before disaster struck• The Crash: A UTV rollover shattering bones and gear — but not Jake’s resolve• The Crawl: 11 hours of crawling, crossing creeks, and following Buddy’s promptings to safety• The Recovery: Rods, screws, and staples — but a plan to guide hunters again this fallThis episode is more than a survival story. It’s about preparedness, mindset, and the unbreakable bond between a hunter and his dog. Whether you hunt, hike, or just love hearing how ordinary people survive extraordinary situations, this conversation will stay with you.In this episode you will hear:• In between normal life and sports, I always was hunting. (7:12)• Welding funds my guiding addiction. (8:54)• The incredible story of Jake’s accident and subsequent crawl for his life starts here. (22:03• [Jake’s dog, Buddy] went with it. He came up and found me. (26:40)• So, what I ended up doing was grabbing this and summersaulting down. It doesn’t sound like that far, but it was like 100 feet. It was a good tumble, and I’m just screaming. (31:25)• I’ve been guiding way up north where I’ve seen a German Shepherd get baited into the woods by wolves and they rip him to shreds. (33:12)• The first thing I thought was I have no light. How the hell am I gonna do this? I don’t even know where I’m going. (33:33)• I’m dragging the leg, and I’m going so far downhill that if I try to turn around, I start to tumble, but if I go the other way I drag and drag, but you’re going up and over this, up and over that, you’re going under this log, you’re going over that log, so I’ve gone maybe a third of a mile in 3 hours. And I’m like I

Kaj Larsen: From Navy SEAL to Groundbreaking JournalistThis week on the Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus and Melanie welcome an extraordinary guest whose life reads like an action thriller—Kaj Larsen. Born in Santa Cruz, California, Kaj earned his Political Science degree from UC Santa Cruz and went on to Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government for a master’s in Public Policy, where he was a Shorenstein Center fellow and a joint fellow at Tufts Jebsen Center for Counter-Terrorism Studies.Kaj’s journey is anything but ordinary. Before breaking stories on global conflict zones, he served five years on active duty as a U.S. Navy SEAL Lieutenant leading special operations overseas. He continues to serve in the SEAL reserves with U.S. Special Operations Command.As an award-winning filmmaker and journalist, Kaj has reported from some of the most dangerous places on earth—Nigeria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, and beyond—producing groundbreaking documentaries on terrorism, national security, and humanitarian crises. He’s been a senior correspondent at NowThis News, hosted the Emmy Award-winning VICE on HBO, and developed the Vanguard Journalism series for Current TV. Kaj made headlines for being the first journalist to bring waterboarding to public attention—by undergoing it himself on camera—and for breaking media silence in Mogadishu as the first Western TV journalist there in over a decade.Outside the newsroom, Kaj is a two-time national open-water swimming champion, an Escape from Alcatraz duathlon competitor, and a dedicated practitioner of Brazilian jiu-jitsu and Muay Thai boxing. His commitment to service extends beyond reporting: he co-founded The Mission Continues and serves on the boards of Team Rubicon Global and other veteran service organizations, deploying for humanitarian missions around the world.Join us as Kaj shares stories from his remarkable career—what it takes to tell the truth from the frontlines, the lessons learned from military service and global reporting, and why resilience and service are at the heart of his mission.Tune in for a gripping, behind-the-scenes look at a life dedicated to serving, reporting, and making an impact on a global scale.In this episode you will hear:• [COVID} Here’s a crisis that is about health, and you’re shutting down wellness. (7:10)• Murph was my roommate when I first got to BUD/S. He’s the first person I met. (32:04)• The thing that got me through was the old “I guess you just have to do it.” (37:12)• Your inner monologue and how you talk to yourself is the only thing that gets you through. (38:34)• Everybody wants to be a frog man on a sunny day. (38:52)• You gotta be careful who you surround yourself with, because cowardice is contagious. (42:37)• I could cover any story I wanted, anywhere in the world. Anything I thought was important. (60:52)• I was always working on hel

Exposing Big Food, Big Pharma, and the Path to True HealthIn this week’s episode, Marcus, Melanie meet with Calley Means — entrepreneur, healthcare reform advocate, and co-founder of TrueMed. Calley has been making waves in the national conversation about health, nutrition, and the systems driving chronic disease.As a former consultant to some of the largest food and pharmaceutical companies in the world, Calley offers a rare insider’s perspective on how financial incentives can prioritize profits over people. Now, through TrueMed, he’s working to flip the script — helping Americans use tax-free health savings accounts to pay for food, exercise, wellness coaching, and other preventative health measures.Calley is also the co-author (with his sister) of the bestselling book Good Energy, which explores the connection between metabolism and health, and he’s an investor in companies tackling metabolic health, mental health, and longevity. A graduate of Stanford University and Harvard Business School, Calley also co-founded Anomalie, a custom bridal brand later acquired by David’s Bridal.In this powerful and eye-opening conversation, Calley shares:•How his insider view of Big Food and Big Pharma shaped his mission to reform healthcare•The shocking incentives that drive the chronic disease crisis in America•How TrueMed empowers people to use HSAs and FSAs for healthy living•The link between metabolism, mental health, and performance — and why it matters for every American•Why systemic change requires both personal responsibility and policy reformWhether you’re a health professional, a parent trying to improve your family’s nutrition, or simply curious about the future of healthcare, this episode will challenge assumptions and offer practical solutions.Don’t miss this episode with Calley Means — a candid, informed, and inspiring discussion on how we can take back control of our health.In this episode you will hear:• [Marcus] We turned a vegan into a meat-eater. A vegetarian was working at our house and smelled [Mama Holly’s Prime Rib] and said “What is that?” And I said that’s prime rib and said “I’m a vegetarian.” I said “I don’t know man. I think you might give this one a whirl.” (3:20)• Pharmaceutical is about 50% of TV advertising. (5:50)• The 2 ways you get researchers money is just research grants (that’s their life blood) and direct bribes. (7:10) • Anxiety was created as a sub-category of medicine in the 1970s, explicitly by pharmaceutical companies who had Valium to sell. (8:21)• If you can make obesity a national standard and tell people it’s not you fault and jab them for a lifetime – that’s a profitable patient. (18:33)• 25% of women are on some kind of psychiatric drugs, That produces reoccurring appointments and prescriptions. (20:01)• A doctor is a medical drug doctor. They’re a drug prescriber. Who made that

Mindset Matters.In this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, we are honored to host a remarkable individual who has not only mastered the art of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu but has also conquered the world's highest peak – Mount Everest. Join us as Marcus and Melanie delve into the incredible journey of Cesalina Gracie. Hailing from a family that pioneered and revolutionized this martial art, Cesalina has carried the torch forward, dedicating her life to mastering the intricacies of Jiu-Jitsu. Cesalina shares insights into the mental and physical preparation required for both the Jiu-Jitsu arena and the formidable slopes of Everest. How do the principles of discipline, resilience, and focus intertwine between the mats and the mountains? Listen in and be inspired by this incredible woman of purpose and power.Whether you're a Jiu-Jitsu enthusiast, an aspiring mountaineer, or someone navigating life's challenges, Cesalina's journey offers invaluable insights that transcend boundaries.In this episode you will hear:• Back in the day, there were eighteen martial arts, different clans that had different practices in Japan, and they all ended with “Jitsu.” (7:08)• There are no bad kids. There’s bad environments for kids. (10:41)• [Jiu Jitsu] is an equalizer of emotions for kids. Jiu Jitsu is gonna honor your personality. (11:04)• Nobody needs to tell us where you’re gonna find the environment, because when you walk in, the systems that are in place teach you before you hear a word from your coach. (12:54)• [My grandfather] saw immediately what the power of that art was and the incredible responsibility that came with it. (13:45)• This [Jiu Jitsu] is a tool for self-development. I’m not here to learn how to fight. I’m here to feel powerful and feel capable without having to look powerful and look capable. (14:00)• That’s the beautiful thing about Jiu Jitsu, is that it lives on the inside. (14:21)• [My family] proved the efficiency of Jiu Jitsu to the rest of the world. (20:43)• If the whole world learns these tools, we’re gonna live in a society that is more peaceful, that is more respectful, because when you have human beings that are self-confident and compassionate, you start changing the way we interact with each other, and we start changing the way we live our lives. (21:19)• As a grown up, I understand the difference between winners and champions. (30:06)• The most important thing about Jiu Jitsu that it builds and internal constitution that is so strong that you can deal with anything in life. (38:26)• The greatest value of Jiu Jitsu is applied outside of the mat. (42:29)• Ultimately, the greatest skill you can have is awareness. (45:54)• We have to be brutally honest with ourselves as to where we’re standing in life. (55:51)• What’s actually gonna take you to the top are the mindsets that you’ve created in your journey in Jiu Jitsu. (61:20)•

Unstoppable: Anthony Robles on Defying the Odds and Dominating the MatIn this week’s episode of the Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus, Melanie, and Hunter welcome NCAA wrestling champion and three-time All-American Anthony Robles. Born with one leg, Anthony refused to let his circumstances define him, instead rewriting the rules of perseverance and grit to capture the 2011 NCAA Wrestling Championship for Arizona State University—earning the nickname “The Beast.”Anthony’s story of resilience has inspired millions, chronicled in his autobiography Unstoppable and the upcoming feature film of the same name. Beyond the mat, he has built a powerful platform as a motivational speaker, Nike athlete, and member of President Obama’s Council on Fitness, Sports, and Nutrition, as well as a respected NCAA wrestling analyst for ESPN and the Pac-12 Network.In this conversation, Anthony shares the mindset that propelled him to the top of collegiate wrestling as well as lessons on perseverance, faith, and unlocking hidden potential.Anthony Robles’ journey is a testament to the phrase “never quit,” proving that true strength lies in heart and determination.Tune in for a powerful dose of inspiration from a man who embodies the spirit of resilience.In this episode you will hear:• My mom always told me growing up that God made me this way for a reason. (3:26)• Every single challenge I’ve faced was a puzzle. I could figure it out. There’s nothing that I couldn’t do. (3:35)• She [My mom] would say “You never let a challenge become an excuse to say I can’t do it.” (6:15)• I had frustration and rage in me, but I was able to channel that, and use it for wrestling. (7:43)• If I quit now, I’m proving a lot of people right. (7:56)• I don’t know where I’d be right now without those individuals who did support me. (12:19)• My goal in my junior year was nothing but state champion. (13:26)• I received a stack of letters from a group of 3rd graders who were shown the movie. They were writing me as their hero of the week. That, for me, opened my eyes to finally understand that I was wrestling for a bigger cause and a bigger purpose than just a bracket or a medal to put around my neck. (22:05)• I don’t want to look back with regret thinking “Man, I wish I had done more.” (26:57)• I want my son to look up to me and say “I want to be like my dad one day.” (27:25)• [My mom] was the best coach I could have ever asked for in my life. (31:21)• My message is the word “Unstoppable”. It’s the fact that we all wrestle with a challenge, (39:10)• If you’re unchallenged, you’re unchanged. (39:50)• [Marcus] “Man, you don’t have a message – you ARE the message.” (40:07)• Greatness is not measured by trophies; it’s not measured by getting first place. It’s just knowing you gave your very best. (42:03)Support Anthony:

TNQP Internal Episode – Summer of 2025 Recap In this week’s special edition of the Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus, Melanie, and Hunter look back on the summer of 2025—a season filled with unforgettable adventures, joyful moments, and one devastating event. Marcus and Hunter recount their personal involvement in the recovery efforts during the tragic 4th of July flood in Kerrville, Texas, offering a raw glimpse into the resilience and service that define the TNQ spirit.But this episode is more than a recap. It’s a reminder of what life can be when rooted in family, fun, patriotism, and service to others. The Crew” is moving onward to a fabulous line-up of guests for rest of the 2025 season. Whether you’ve been with us from the beginning or are tuning in for the first time, welcome to the Team Never Quit Podcast—where stories of courage, resilience, and never quitting take center stage.In this episode you will hear:• There’s some age where you just shouldn’t do [Roller Coasters] anymore and I’m definitely past that age. (3:06)• What is it about things that cause you pain. “He’s got horrible [sickness]” – let’s try that. (5:00)• [What is a “never again” experience that you’ve done and absolutely hated?] “I thought it was scuba diving, but once I got in the water in Hawaii, I actually loved it a lot.” (5:54)• We both just started a workout routine. (7:05)• Marcus and Melanie share highlights of their Hawaii trip, including Pearl Harbor, Diamondhead, Waikiki, and Trident Adventures, where they literally throw your ass out of the helicopter into the ocean. (8:20) • On Memorial Day we went to the Danny Dietz Memorial Roping in Decatur, Texas. (11:43)• The Luttrell’s stop in Las Vegas had many very cool stops. Tom Brady & Jim Gray opened a sports museum in the Fontainebleau Hotel. We suggest seeing Boulder city and Hoover dam.  (12:56)   • See the Navy SEAL Museum in Fort Pierce, Florida, as well as in San Diego. (18:00)• We watched David Copperfield. And if you haven’t seen him – some of the stuff he pulled off was unbelievable, including a gigantic UFO.• Their visit to Lake Tahoe starts at 22:28.• On July 4th weekend, there was a terrible storm that cam over Texas. Most have heard about what happened at Camp Mystic. Marcus, Morgan, and Hunter volunteered to assist with search and recovery for 8 days. That was the saddest thing Marcus had ever been a part of. “We’re talking about babies.” (24:47)• “Hands down. Texans: You all are the best people on the planet of Earth.” (26:38)• When the flood came through the mountain, it hit Mystic at the headwater, but the river is 120 miles. It was complete devastation from the beginning to the end. (27:35)• The gamechanger – the ones that changed the dynamic of everything were the excavator drivers. (29:26)• One of the most difficult things was the search. You gotta understan

In the Trenches: The Journey of Robert Gallery from College Star to NFL StandoutJoin Marcus and Melanie as they welcome Robert Gallery, former NFL offensive lineman, College Football Hall of Famer, and one of the most celebrated athletes to come out of the University of Iowa.Robert’s football journey is nothing short of extraordinary. Starting as a tight end at Iowa, he transitioned to offensive tackle, paving the way for a stellar collegiate career. A two-time First-Team All-Big Ten selection, Robert was named Big Ten Offensive Lineman of the Year in 2003 and capped off his senior year with unanimous All-American honors and the prestigious Outland Trophy. His excellence extended off the field, earning him three Academic All-Big Ten awards.In recognition of his remarkable contributions to the sport, Robert has been honored with multiple accolades: College Football Hall of Fame: Inducted in 2023 at the 65th NFF Annual Awards Dinner. University of Iowa Athletics Hall of Fame: Inducted in 2017. Kinnick Wall of Honor: Added to Iowa’s America Needs Farmers Wall of Honor in 2015. Drafted second overall by the Oakland Raiders in the 2004 NFL Draft, Robert embarked on an eight-season career in the NFL, playing for the Raiders and Seattle Seahawks. Over 104 games, he showcased his grit and leadership, earning the Ed Block Courage Award in 2010 and cementing his place as a force on the offensive line.In this episode, Robert reflects on his incredible football career, the transformation of Iowa’s football program, and his experiences in the NFL. But the conversation goes deeper, exploring his journey after football and the life-changing healing he found through ibogaine.For both Marcus and Robert, ibogaine offered a second chance—a path to healing they’re now sharing to inspire and support others who may feel lost or stuck. These raw, personal stories are a testament to resilience and the universal power of hope.Tune in for an inspiring episode filled with life lessons, healing journeys, and a reminder that no matter the challenge, transformation is always possible.In This Episode You Will Hear:• My parents were very much like: “You do sports, or you work on the farm.” (9:55)• Once my siblings started earning scholarships, and I saw what it did for them, I was like “I wanna do that.” (11:17)• [The coaching staff] were just guys that wanted to get the best out of you. They were there to make you better. (14:25)• [Melanie] Q: What do you think builds a great team?  A: I think it’s the people and the culture. (15:55)• It’s that Midwest mentality. Work ethic, no show boating. It’s about being the best you can be, doing it the right way, and being good people. (17:02)• I knew I needed my buddies next to me on the offensive line. For me to be great, I

Life's Precious Second Chance.In this week's powerful episode, we are honored to have former Royal Marine Toby Gutteridge, an extraordinary individual who defied the odds after being paralyzed by a shot through the neck during a night raid in Afghanistan. Paralyzed instantly with a shattered C2 vertebrae, Toby's survival was miraculous. He details the harrowing moments, the support of his colleagues, and the grueling journey of rebuilding his life. Toby battled mental health issues, but his determination led him back to education, earning a first-class business degree at Bournemouth University.Reflecting on the fragility of life, Toby expresses gratitude for his second chance and emphasizes the preciousness of every moment. Toby's resilience extends to entrepreneurship, as he founded an extreme sports clothing brand that echoes his optimistic outlook on life—finding light even in the darkest times.Tune in to this episode to witness Toby Gutteridge's remarkable journey from the battlefield to rebuilding a life filled with purpose, determination, and a profound appreciation for the precious gift of life. In this episode you will hear:• When I left South Africa, I was so determined, come hell or high water, I was gonna get into the British Marines no matter what. (13:24)• My determination was a lot higher than probably 80-85% of the recruits. (16:00)• As a Royal Marine, it was a reality check. All of the sudden, the movies and all that goes out the window, and reality kicks in. (17:11)• Where the Hilos landed, there was no cover, and they left us there. It was as flat as a pool table. We couldn’t go back; we couldn’t go left or right; so the only thing we could do was a full frontal assault on this compound.  [We] Just showed the enemy what we’re made of. (32:51)• [As we broke through a door] They just opened fire on the first team that went through the entryway, and I happened to take a round through the neck that hit me square in the spinal cord, and that was me – lights out. (44:55)• The next thing I remember was waking up probably about 3 months later. (46:46)• [My recovery was] hell on earth, man. (46:57)• You’re fighting for your survival, fighting for your life, using everything you’re got, just to not give in. (47:24)• They couldn’t do an MRI because of the metal that was still stuck in my neck. (49:16)• I spent 12 months on my back, staring at the roof. (56:32) • I’m not be the man to let the team down let the legacy of who we are down. I’m not gonna be that soldier. (57:38)• I think my brothers in arms – the support I got from them – is what probably got me through it. (59:05)• I just crossed a point where I decided I’m gonna make the best of it.  (59:40)• It’s inspired the next generation of Special Forces Operators to go “Damn, look what these guys have done. Look at that legacy they left behind.“ (62:02)• I lost al

Join us for this week’s exhilarating episode of the Team Never Quit Podcast as Marcus sits down with Randy Beausoleil, a true American hero and former Navy SEAL of 34 years. In this gripping conversation, Randy shares insights from his remarkable mission to Panama, where his mission was to take down dictator and drug lord, Manuel Noriega, by blowing up his boat. Listening to Randy’s compelling, firsthand story offers a glimpse into the mindset that defines a warrior.Discover the principles of teamwork, adaptability, unwavering determination, and the mental toughness required to navigate high-stakes situations.Listening to Randy reveals insights into the discipline, focus, and resilience that set Navy SEALs apart, and be inspired by how these principles can be applied to everyday challenges.Unleash Your Inner Warrior: Tap into your own inner warrior spirit. Whether you're facing personal challenges or striving for self-improvement, Randy's insights provide a roadmap for unlocking your full potential. In this episode you will hear:• You’re gonna make it no matter what happens. You just have to believe. And the Navy doesn’t train that into you. (12:58)• In order to make it through BUDS, you gotta believe you can do it. (13:45)• People quit when they don’t believe. (16:02)• The job is being miserable, cold, wet, tired. You still have to perform. (18:50)• Hell week is what separates us from the rest of them [other Special Forces]. It gives you a weird mental ability that no other training can give you. (20:03)• Everybody compares themselves to SEALS. SEALS don’t compare themselves to anybody else. (20:48)• We have to train so hard that no matter what we do, we’re way better at it than anyone else. (24:19)• When we do actually go into combat, combat is easier than the training. 24:09)• My desire was for their best interest [as an instructor]. We’re gonna train hard, but we’re gonna stick together. You need to know why you’re doing what you’re doing. (30:00)• You need to be training everybody that is below you to replace you. (33:43)• As the leader, I’ll help who needs help. (36:13)• I don’t want to talk specific tactics because there’s still guys on active duty deploying those tactics. I don’t want the enemy to hear it. (49:07)• [Marcus] If you close your eyes and drop underwater, you know how many kicks it takes to get 100 yards. (50:30)• Okay, this is why we’ve been doing what we’re doing. We’re getting on the C141, and that night, we’re getting in the water and we are diving on these boats. (66:13)• If something happens, it’s my fault. If we didn’t get there, it’s my fault. If we got compromised, it’s my fault. I’m not gonna sit there going “it’s his fault.” (76:07)• Once we go in the water, it over, that boat is blowing up. (78:55)• There has to be a level of finality to whatever you’re doing. If I don’t do this correctly, things are

Mission Accomplished: Rob O'Neill on SEAL Team Six, Leadership, and Life After the Battlefield. In this week’s episode, Marcus and Melanie Luttrell meet with one of the most highly decorated combat veterans of our time—Robert J. O’Neill. With an incredible 400+ combat missions under his belt, Rob’s experiences span across Liberia, The Balkans, The Persian Gulf, Indian Ocean, Ukraine, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan. As a Navy SEAL, Rob served in SEAL Team Two, SEAL Team Four, and spent eight years with the legendary SEAL Team Six.Rob’s heroic career is underscored by 53 decorations, including two Silver Stars for gallantry, four Bronze Stars with Valor for heroism, and a host of other prestigious commendations. His resume of skills includes elite qualifications like Military Free-Fall Jumpmaster, Naval Special Warfare Scout/Sniper, and Master Naval Parachutist, among many others.In this episode, we dive deep into Rob’s role in some of the most significant military operations in recent history:Operation Red Wings, which saw the rescue of the Lone Survivor, Marcus LuttrellThe lead jumper in the daring rescue of Captain Richard Phillips from Somali piratesOperation Neptune’s Spear, the mission that brought down Osama bin LadenBeyond the battlefield, Rob is the co-founder of the Special Operators Transition Foundation, a non-profit dedicated to helping special operations veterans transition to successful careers in corporate America. He is also the author of the best-selling memoir, THE OPERATOR: Firing the Shots that Killed Osama bin Laden and My Years as a SEAL Team Warrior.Throughout his post-military career, Rob has become a prominent public speaker, security consultant, and media contributor, sharing expert insights on military strategy and terrorism. Whether speaking to survivors of 9/11 or delivering keynote speeches to business leaders, Rob translates his elite training into actionable lessons on leadership, resilience, and success. Join us as we explore Rob O’Neill’s incredible journey from the frontlines to the boardroom and hear his thoughts on leadership, transition, and how to thrive under pressure.Tune in to hear the untold stories and actionable advice from one of America's most decorated heroes!In This Episode You Will Hear:• I don’t think I could beat Marcus at arm wrestling if I can’t pick up a bowling ball. (1:58)• You do realize there’s a thing called old man strength? (5:53)• [Rob O’Neil] I have a podcast as well, called “The Operator.” We’re called The Operator because if you’re doing anything, you’re an operator. (6:18)• Having a big man to kick your ass and teach you wind a bobbin; you realize there is skill here. (9:59)• When people quit BUDS, it’s not because “this is hard”. [It’s because] I’m tired of the broken foot.; I’m tired of the shin splints; I’m t

From the Teams to the Museum: Chris Wyllie’s Mission to Honor and Preserve the History, Legacy & Brotherhood of the U.S. Navy SEALs.This week, Marcus and Melanie are joined by Chris Wyllie, Executive Director of the Lt. Michael Murphy Navy SEAL Museum. A former Navy SEAL and SWCC graduate, Chris shares his powerful journey from serving on the Teams to leading one of the most iconic institutions dedicated to preserving the legacy of Naval Special Warfare.Born in Port Jefferson, NY, Chris served with SBU12 and SEAL Team 2 before being medically discharged in 2000. After his military service, he channeled his technical expertise into a successful business providing high-end audio-visual systems—skills that now shape many of the museum’s cutting-edge interactive exhibits.Chris opens up about the unbreakable bond of the SEAL brotherhood, his continued involvement in veteran support events like the annual SEAL Swim in the Hudson, and how he’s helping steer the museum’s vision to educate, inspire, and honor America’s elite warriors.Chris shares his path from SWCC Class 16 and BUD/S Class 217 to SEAL Team 2, how his AV background enhances the museum experience, what it means to preserve the legacy of the SEAL Teams, stories of camaraderie, sacrifice, and ongoing service beyond the uniform, and his vision for the future of the National Navy SEAL MuseumJoin us as we dive into leadership, legacy, and living with purpose—with a man whose mission never ended, it simply evolved.In This Episode You Will Hear:• It’s not as hard as you think it is. Just put in more effort. (2:00)• I was always like a people pleaser. I still am. That’s what I’m working on right now. I’m trying not to be. (4:50)• If you fail, it’s attempt. Instead of being demoralized, instead of being embarrassed or frustrated or depressed, turn that energy into something better. Fire in the gut. (14:06)• We had guys tried to fake hypothermia during BUDS, till they broke the thermometer out, and check the dudes right in front of all of us. (25:37)• We went out for surf torture. The waves were so big, and there was such a shore break, it picked us all up, slammed the whole class. One guy was like a lawn dart – broke his neck. (26:29)• They put the [hypothermia] guy up on the wall, pulled his pants down, took the core temperature thermometer – right in front of God and everybody. [It was rectal] They need to know what your core is – to see if you’re actually hyporthermal.  (27:32)• [Marcus] I’ve seen guys quit over trying to put a dive sock on. (32:38)• When you first get out of the military, you’re too close to it to think you’re a veteran. (37:47)• I’ve always tried to help veterans. (39:38)• The impression is that it’s a Naval Special Warfare Museum with Michael {Murphy’s] name on it. (47:33)• I’m so tired of people pushing down awesomeness. Everybody doesn’t have to be the sa

From Breakdown to Breakthrough: Justin Roethlingshoefer on Faith, Health, and PurposeThis week on the Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus and Melanie sit down with Justin Roethlingshoefer—human performance expert, data-driven health strategist, and founder of OWN IT Coaching—to explore how rock-bottom moments can fuel world-class breakthroughs.With over two decades of experience optimizing performance for NCAA and NHL athletes, Justin shares how a life-threatening health scare forced him to apply his elite strategies to himself—uncovering a deeper, more universal truth: everyone deserves access to the systems that help the best perform at their best.Now a bestselling author, speaker, and host of The OWN IT Show, Justin helps leaders, executives, and athletes take ownership of their health so they can fully live out their God-given mission. His journey is a powerful reminder that faith, discipline, and purpose-driven living are essential for real transformation.Whether you’re a high achiever, a health seeker, or someone navigating personal adversity, Justin’s story will challenge you to stop surviving—and start owning your life, mind, body, and mission.In This Episode You Will Hear:• I still remember at 7, 8, 9, 10,11, 12 years old, playing outside on the outdoor rinks for 3, 4, 5 hours a night in -10, -15, -20 degree weather. (6:27)• At 8 years old, I knew what my mission was – what my God-given calling was which was to be part of the redemption story of the health of America. (7:07)• I was raised with a deep conviction and relationship with the Lord, and just a love for people. (7:45)• As men we think that we can grab little issues and dump them in a bucket, and we handle them like it’s nothing, but little do we know they’re stacking up. (11:35)• There are 4 types of heats: An addictive heart, a hardened heart, a performance heart, and a bruised heart. (13:43).• What are our habits? What are our behaviors? How do we live? How does that show the stewardship and honor for what we’ve been given to carry out His calling? (15:36)• If you know who’s you are, and who’s call you’re executing, at the end of the day, the results don’t matter, it’s the journey you’re waiting on. (18:13)• Isaiah 40 – Those who are willing to wait on the Lord will rise up on wings like eagles, will run and not grow weary, will walk and not grow faint. (18:51)• The younger generation is learning in a new way. They want to have evidence. (19:41)• We could be pulled off-purpose. And the moment you get distracted is the moment you get disconnected. (21:58)• I always ask 3 questions: What’s your name? How’s your heart? How can I help? (30:35)• Try to be a reflection of love every single place you go. Try to speak life into people. (32:49)• You have a choice: Do you want your compromise to be compounding in your life? Or do you want your commitment

The Gift: Phil Heath on Greatness, Grit, and the Mr. Olympia MindsetIn this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus and Melanie are joined by none other than Phil Heath, a seven-time Mr. Olympia champion and one of the most iconic names in modern bodybuilding. Known as “The Gift,” Phil shares his journey from a basketball scholarship at the University of Denver to becoming one of the most genetically gifted and mentally driven athletes in bodybuilding history.In this conversation, Phil opens up about his early days as a collegiate athlete, how he transitioned into bodybuilding, and what it truly takes to stay at the top of your game—physically and mentally. He also discusses and what discipline looks like when the lights are off and the crowd is gone.Listen in as Phil also shares his endeavors in life after the stage—and what lies ahead.Whether you're into fitness, personal development, or stories of rising to the top against all odds, this is a powerful episode packed with wisdom from a true champion.In This Episode You Will Hear:• I was an athlete my whole life. (3:36)•  I was born in ’79. What a time to be alive. You saw greatness right in front of you through the athletes. (3:41)• Violence is everywhere. You just have to play life with your eyes open. (6:19)• I chose to be different. I was willing to be ridiculed by other people. I didn’t care. I just wanted to be focused, and always be competitive with myself. (7:04)• I always wanted to be stronger, faster, and show more grit. So, I always wanted to be leading at the front. (7:41)• Seeing other people’s life choices, and realizing that you have choices, and you have consequences. (8:13)• [I thought] maybe, just maybe, God’s got something for me. (18:04)• In my fifth year of college, I was looking for identity. (23:09)• Proverbs 27:17 “Iron sharpens iron.” (24:19)• Do your best. If you’re going to use social media, look at experts first. (29:00)• I wanted to understand the champions. (30:07)• I didn’t hire a coach or anything like that. I just trained with my friends and kinda - trial and error. (32:43)• Be honest with yourself, and never say quit. (32:54)• When I won the Mister USA competition in Las Vegas, 20 years ago – right before I go on stage, they come to my hotel room and they go “Here you go. You got the cover.” (36:13)• It’s so amazing how God works. We meet (Jay Cutler), we take this photo, and we become best of friends. (41:23)• Body building really is about validation in a way. (46:12)• On my worst day, I have to make that day the best day in the gym. (48:30)• [My dad used to say] “If I could put 2 feet on the ground, lace ‘em up, I can go to work.” (50:52)• I put in the work. I had no training partner. I don’t even know how I did it. (53:16)• I just knew that no matter what happens, I’m gonna be immortalized in history. (58:13)

No Sight, No Sound, No Surrender: The Aaron Hale StoryThis week’s Team Never Quit episode features the incredible Aaron Hale—a man who has stared down adversity, twice over, and answered with resilience, grit, and chocolate. A 14-year military veteran of both the Navy and Army, Aaron was serving his second deployment in Afghanistan as an Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) Team Leader when an IED explosion took his sight and altered the course of his life. But Aaron didn’t stop moving forward—he started climbing.Aaron shares how he turned tragedy into testimony, going from the battlefield to building a life filled with purpose. From teaching at the EOD school post-injury to completing the Boston Marathon and climbing mountains, Aaron’s journey is one of extreme perseverance. In 2015, another blow—bacterial meningitis—left him completely deaf, but with cochlear implants, the support of his incredible wife McKayla, and a “Challenge Accepted” mindset, Aaron continues to thrive.We also dive into Aaron and McKayla’s passion project turned thriving business—Extra Ordinary Delights, an artisan chocolate and fudge company born out of love, grit, and a relentless pursuit of joy. Aaron Hale doesn’t just inspire—he challenges all of us to rise, to reinvent, and to find joy even in the most unexpected places. From bombs to bonbons, his life is a powerful reminder that adversity is not the end of the story—it’s the beginning of a better one.In This Episode You Will Hear:•  I became one of the personal chefs for the 3-star Admiral, commander to the 6th fleet (1:10)•  I wanted to be in a tight knit brotherhood. I wanted a technically challenging career field.  (14:40)•  Being that evidence collector guy that I wanted to be, I made my approach with a metal detector. 20 yards or so from the primary device was a secondary device that hadn’t been found yet. It vaulted me into the air. I reached up to fix my helmet and it was gone. And I thought “Oh, no - this is bad”. At Walter Reed, I was told I’d be blind for the rest of my life. (28:05) •  Total blindness comes with a bonus gift of sleep disorder. You can’t rest you circadian rhythm. (30:50)•  I had those demons in my head asking the What if’s; the Why me’s. (31:37)•  I don’t have a monopoly on pain. (33:36)•  I don’t have any good answers, any good reasons to quit (33:43)•   Instead of “Why me? or “I can’t” I just try to figure out how I can. (34:00)•  For about 6 months, I learned how to be blind. (36:03)•  I’m having an awesome time. (38:59)•  I contracted Bacterial Meningitis. That came closer to killing me than the bomb had. (39:20)•  That’s when I felt bad - when I was just thinking about myself (42:37)•  I might as well keep working hard to do hard things. (46:08)•  For ten years I’ve been running marathons and ultra marathons (46:30)•  Everything in my life is a team sport (49:49)

Duty, Sacrifice, and Character: The Unshakable Resolve of LTC Daniel GadeThis week’s Team Never Quit guest, Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Gade, brings us a story of courage, sacrifice, and resilience that will leave you deeply inspired. A two-time Purple Heart recipient, LTC Gade served with distinction in Iraq, where he led soldiers in some of the most hostile environments and endured life-altering injuries in the line of duty. But as you’ll hear, his story didn’t end in combat—it began a new chapter of leadership, healing, and purpose.Born on a North Dakota farm and raised with a strong sense of patriotism, Daniel always knew he was destined to serve. After graduating from West Point, he rose through the ranks as an armored officer, company commander, and eventually a wounded warrior whose leg injury nearly claimed his life. Through a long and painful recovery, his faith, family, and unrelenting grit propelled him to become a policy expert, White House veteran, Ph.D. holder, and educator at the very academy that shaped him.This conversation goes beyond the battlefield to explore themes of honor, duty, and the character that defines true greatness. Whether you're in the military or not, Daniel’s story will challenge you to reflect on your own purpose and what you’re willing to sacrifice for it.In This Episode You Will Hear:• I worry about whether the wars that we fought in – were they the right thing to do? I wonder if our national leadership is courageous enough to understand that these young men and women - their blood should not be sacrificed in vain. (9:53)• I hope our generation will do a better job of deciding when and where to go to war. (10:59)• I graduated West Point in ’97 (13:47)• [Marcus – On 9/11] They sat us down. They hey had all the TVs on the wall. As we were watching it, the second one [plane] hit. (18:46)• My tank was hit by a rocket-propelled grenade on November 10th, and it killed the soldier next to me and wounded me mildly. (23:35)• I remember looking at him and the next day was veteran’s day. And I remember thinking: “I know he’s dead, but his parents don’t know he’s dead yet. And they’re gonna find out on Veteran’s Day.” (25:53)• At 26:25 Daniel recalls the experience of being hit by an IED.• It’s a miracle that I’m alive, honestly. (28:41)• I end up spending a year in the hospital. (28:57)• People ask me if I have PTSD and I don’t, but when I was unconscious, I had horrible, horrible dreams. (30:55)• I went from user-level wounded warrior, just a guy in a hospital bed, to being the guy whose office is overlooking the west wing from across the street. (38:05)• The book is called “Wounding Warriors”. It’s on Amazon. (43:4)• The generosity that we do have for veterans is actually too much and in the wrong direction because it incentivizes all the wrong behaviors. (44:18)• The system itself disincenti

Defying the Odds — Vance Walker’s Back-to-Back Ninja Warrior VictoriesThis week on the Team Never Quit podcast, we welcome American Ninja Warrior legend Vance Walker, the first athlete in the show’s history to win back-to-back million-dollar championships. At just 19 years old, Vance has become a beacon of perseverance, grit, and unstoppable belief.Born with spastic diplegia, a form of cerebral palsy that affected his ability to walk, Vance was told he may never walk without braces. But through years of determination and relentless training, he not only walked — he ran, jumped, climbed, and conquered Mount Midoriyama... twice.In this episode, Vance shares His journey from leg braces to Ninja Warrior champion, the mental and physical challenges of competing in two seasons back-to-back, and what it means to represent those born with disabilities on a national stage, Whether you're chasing a personal dream or overcoming an obstacle of your own, this is an episode that will inspire you to keep climbing.In This Episode You Will Hear:• [My mom] She gave me the mindset I’ve had ever since then, which is “Whatever it takes.” (5:19)• At 17 months old I was diagnosed with cerebral Palsey and was told I might never be able to walk without braces on my legs. (5:37)• If you don’t have hard things, you can’t get stronger. (13:26)• I always wanted to be good at something, and there was always something that would keep me from being the best. And when I found Ninja, I was able to make my own scheduled, because Ninja Warrior is not a team sport. (15:39)• I can make my own path in this. I can train any way I want to. If there’s an obstacle, there’s not [just] one way to do it. (18:59)• Just like in life, you need a mentor. You need somebody who’s done things before to be able to see how to do things. (29:39)• When was 12, I won my first national championship. (26:59)• I want to get into speaking and sharing my story because that’s such as important part of this. (44:22)• When I was a kid in school, I was always different from the other kids. I never fit in with anybody. The only thing that kept me going was the mindset that my mom gave me. (44:57)• To become the best at something is already such an insane challenge, but I started from below everybody else. (45:30)• Any challenge, any obstacle – Never give up. (47:14)• The show is always the one thing I’m the best at. That’s where I’m at home. (53:57)• I get that dismount, I hit the buzzer about a thousand times, and I just start bawling my eyes out, because I knew at that point no one was beating me on the rope. I did it. And I ended up winning a million dollars. (62:41)Support Vance  - https://youtube.com/@vancewalkerninjawarrior?si=WcAQTH4fhJbm7-cM  - <a href="https://www.ins

From Battlefield to Boardroom: The Journey of Chase RowanThis week, Marcus and Melanie meet with the remarkable Chase Rowan—a former Army Ranger turned creative visionary, financial strategist, and vocal advocate for alternative healing. With a career spanning combat zones to creative studios and boardrooms, Chase embodies the spirit of resilience, innovation, and transformation.Listen in on Chase’s powerful story of serving as an Army Ranger and the ridiculous challenges he faced returning to civilian life, healing the Invisible wounds, and his personal experiences with ibogaine and 5meo-DMT, and how these treatments helped him overcome addiction and trauma.Chase discusses his work with the Texas Ibogaine Initiative and reveals why he’s passionate about sharing these solutions with fellow veterans.Chase Rowan worked as a Land Development Project Manager for 17 years, helping build residential neighborhoods all over North Texas. He spent his career working for two of the largest land developers in Texas, managing everything from early planning and design to construction and final delivery of large-scale communities.In This Episode You Will Hear:•  I had a lot of experiences walking in on things no boy wants to walk in on. (12:45)•  I’ve struggled with alcohol for a long time. But I did it kind of quietly, especially when I got in the military. (19:57)• [While parachuting] I hit the runway going 40-50 mph. I had an 8” gash in the back of my head. I was out-unconscious. (30:44)• There’s nothing worse than opioid withdrawal to me. (30:44)• My sole focus when I got up, when I was deep in my addiction – my first thought was “How am I gonna get something?” (38:15)• In 2016, my life was in shambles. I decided I needed help. (39:10)• [Marcus] No matter how strong you are. It’s like being a prisoner of war. (41:47)• I felt like such a failure, and so many times I thought about how much better my kids and my wife would be if I just ended my life. (53:26)• When I was at my weakest, and I’d start crying, all of the sudden I’d feel power within me. (58:49)• Being sober is a super power. (63:15)• [Post Ibogaine treatment] I’ve never wanted to be alive more than I do now, and people need to know about this. (72:21)• There’s nothing I like more than seeing people happy. (78:02)• It’s not what you want. It’s what you need. (84:27)• There are so many things that trauma is from, and this [Ibogaine] can heal it. (90:28)Support Chase - t4gmh.org Support TNQ  - IG: team_neverquit , marcusluttrell , melanieluttrell , <a

A Father’s Mission: Honoring the Legacy of Navy SEAL Nathan Gage Ingram In this deeply moving episode, Marcus and Melanie sit down with Chet Ingram, the father of Navy SEAL Nathan Gage Ingram, who was lost at sea in January 2024 during a mission off the coast of Somalia. Alongside fellow SEAL Christopher J. Chambers, Gage perished while attempting to board a vessel suspected of smuggling Iranian weapons bound for the Houthi rebels. The mission turned tragic when Chambers was swept overboard, and Gage, in a heroic act of brotherhood, dove in after him — both were lost to the ocean’s current.Chet, and Gage’s best friend Ryan, reflect on Gage’s remarkable journey from Roanoke, Virginia, to the elite ranks of SEAL Team Three. He shares how his son’s determination and selfless character defined every part of his life, including his final moments.Chet also opens up about the heartbreak of losing a son, the holes left behind, and the hope he’s now pursuing through the Nathan Gage Ingram Foundation — a mission to support military families in their own times of need.We also discuss the Navy’s investigation into the incident, which pointed to preventable failures, and how Chet has chosen to turn pain into purpose, even participating in a memorial paddle just miles from where his son is honored in San Diego.From personal grief to public service, from private tears to lasting legacy — this conversation is a powerful tribute to a son, a hero, and a father's unwavering love.In This Episode You Will Hear:• American Airlines pilots, called “100 Vets Who Give a Damn” are retired pilots. They give me opportunity to speak, and make a little money for the foundation. (3:21)• I’m that dad that when the kids are 4 years old and they’re looking for a soccer coach, I volunteered. (16:47)• I teach biomechanics and fast pitch softball. (16:55)• He [Gage] had a lot of heart, played football - still the smallest guy in the world, but as a cornerback, he’d fight you for that ball. (18:05)• He [Gage] was watching this movie one night. Afterwards, he decided to go for a 4-mile run in the ice. He came back and said “Dad, I’m gonna be a Navy SEAL. (21:50)• Financially all I ever asked God for was to be comfortable. Never more than I deserved. (28:17)• Gage and I did the 100k – (6.23 miles) and we did it in just under 4 hours. (42:40)• Gage loved the kiddos and the puppies. (53:49)• In an attempt to board the Dhow, going up that unstable ladder, and with the proximity of the boat, it jumped the rail. Chris attempted it and didn’t make good contact and fell 9 feet. (59:14)• The biggest reward was that between his graduation and boot camp, I asked him to accept Jesus, and he did. (60:20)• I can’t change the past, but how can I help change the future, based on my experience. (62:27)• As far as we know those boys are still kickin’ water. He’s still sittin’ in a bar

Solo in the Death Zone: Brian Dickinson’s Blind Descent from EverestThis week’s Team Never Quit guest is no stranger to adversity. Brian Dickinson, a former U.S. Navy Special Operations Aviation Rescue Swimmer and elite mountaineer, joins us to share the harrowing true story of his solo summit and descent of Mount Everest after being left without a guide—and without sight. After his Sherpa fell ill near the South Col, Brian pushed onward alone to the top of the world, only to be struck by sudden snow blindness on the way down. What followed was a seven-hour descent with no vision, no oxygen, and no margin for error.Brian holds the record for the highest solo blind descent and has completed the Seven Summits, conquering the tallest peaks on each continent. Before his mountaineering feats, Brian served six years in the U.S. Navy with the elite NSO (Naval Special Operations) community, deploying on high-risk rescue and combat missions in the Persian Gulf.Now the host of Calm in the Chaos, a podcast that highlights raw, untold rescue stories from America’s unsung heroes, Brian brings the same courage, insight, and humility to this conversation. Whether you're a fan of extreme adventure, military resilience, or human endurance—you won’t want to miss this one.In This Episode You Will Hear:• {Marcus] I’m a Charlie Sheen SEAL. (8:19)• It’s weird when you go from jumping put of helicopters to something less interesting. (14:11)• You can’t really plan for giving up in the death zone – 26,00 feet. But you can train for the things in your control. (18:07)• You can’t acclimate to 26 [thousand feet]. You’re slowly dying. Like if you cut your finger, it won’t heal. There’s not enough air. (23:23)• At Camp 3, this is where you see a straight up ice wall. If you fall, you’re falling for a mile. (24:32)• When I got about a thousand feet above Camp 3, I had to anchor off to get some water. I had an oxygen mask and goggles, and I took my goggles off to put them around my wrist, and as I was getting my mask off to drink water, my foot slipped, I went to grab the rope, and my goggles slid off and 4they’re just like… down. And you don’t bring extra gear. (25:35)• There’re over 300 bodies still on the mountain. (30:38)• You live and die by the decisions you make in life. (31:34)• When you climb any mountain at night, the sun is your first indication of hope. (37:33)• According to the Himalayan Database, I’m one of two people to ever have the summit to myself on a given day. (39:07)• Everything just went completely white. I went Snowblind. And I remember at that moment, dropping down, grabbing the rope, and assessing the situation thinking: I’m at the highest point in the world, I’m completely blind; no one’s coming to get me. (41:07)• I just witnessed a miracle. It was like someone reached down and picked me up. An unexplained energy. The first

From Combat to Clarity: The Healing Journey of Mark KellerThis week’s Team Never Quit episode features Lieutenant Commander Mark Keller, a retired U.S. Navy Naval Flight Officer who served his country with distinction in combat zones around the world—including Kosovo, Iraq, and post-9/11 Afghanistan. But after two decades of intense operational service, Mark faced a more insidious enemy at home: the devastating mental, emotional, and physical toll of war.In this powerful conversation, Mark opens up about his early years as a thrill-seeker, his journey from the Air Force to earning his commission into the Navy, and the harrowing missions that left scars no one could see. He recounts the mission that haunted him most—the unintended loss of innocent life—and how that moment triggered a years-long battle with PTSD, addiction, broken relationships, and near-death experiences.But Mark’s story doesn’t end in darkness.He takes us inside his transformational healing journey, made possible by plant-based neurogenesis therapies including Ibogaine and 5-MEO-DMT. Supported by the nonprofit Veterans Exploring Treatment Solutions (VETS) and inspired by fellow veterans like Marcus Luttrell and Marcus Capone, Mark discovered not only deep healing—but a new purpose.Now an advocate for alternative PTSD treatments and featured in the upcoming documentary No Fallen Heroes, Mark shares how love, neuroplasticity, and hard-fought self-discovery helped him reclaim his life. If you or someone you love is a veteran struggling with PTSD, you’re not alone. Reach out, share this episode, and explore the healing resources shared today.In This Episode You Will Hear:• When you’ve got 2 Lieutenants with 15,000 pounds of gas and an hour to kill in an F-14, what are you gonna do? (18:46)• If there’s any flat earthers listening to this… the earth is round. (19:28)• As I look over on my left, I start seeing bright orange, all over the place. And I switched around on my seat, and the whole back of the plane’s on fire. Holy shit! (25:30)• A lot of guys got in the habit of making sure they had a mag in there. They wanted to be sure to take themselves out, before the Taliban got ‘em. (36:22)• [Marcus: a buddy of mine] came over the wood line and dropped down over our crawfish boil, you could see him come down; rolled over to do a panel check; and hung us the finger. (43:53)• Why are you gonna strap an explosive-laden rocket to your ass, if you can’t do something fun with it? (44:44)• Detailed discussion related to lasers and precision bombing. (48:27 to 55:30)• People have different experiences, and you make decisions based on what you know. (59:21)• I got home to my wife and my 2 young sons, and I wasn’t the same. (75:35)• Every time you launch, you gotta be on the ball. You’re at 100% all the time. You have to. Mission success, and sometimes survival

From the Mountains to the Mission: Commander J.D. Donaldson & Captain Bradley Geary’s Journey of Service and SacrificeThis week, Marcus and Melanie welcome Commander Jed “J.D.” Donaldson, and Captain Bradley Geary to the Team Never Quit Podcast. J.D Donaldson, a West Virginia native whose journey from small-town athlete to elite Navy SEAL leader is nothing short of remarkable. Raised in Hedgesville and shaped by strong family values and athletic discipline, J.D. earned a U.S. Naval Academy appointment and went on to win two national boxing championships before graduating with a degree in Physics (Oceanography).Selected for SEAL training alongside a small group of peers, J.D. would go on to serve in multiple SEAL Teams across global deployments, holding command positions at SEAL Team Eight and SEAL Team Four, and leading strategic operations in Africa with Special Operations Command. His time at the elite Naval Special Warfare Development Group (DEVGRU) marks the pinnacle of a career defined by leadership, courage, and brotherhood.Now, as Training and Facilities Manager at GBRS Group, J.D. continues to serve the veteran and first responder community, equipping them with the tools and training to thrive. In this episode, we explore how his experiences shaped his approach to leadership, resilience, family, and life after service.Captain Bradley Geary is a retired Navy SEAL officer with 24 years of distinguished service in Naval Special Warfare. A 2000 graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy and SEAL Qualification Training Class 234, he led elite teams across the globe—from SEAL Team Four to commanding SEAL Delivery Vehicle Team One. He most recently served as Commanding Officer of Naval Special Warfare Basic Training Command. Captain Geary holds a master’s in Defense Analysis and has spent his career training, leading, and mentoring some of the most elite warriors in the world.In This Episode You Will Hear:• I was first chair trumpet in high school. Muscular lips. (22:38)• One of the psych’s did a study of all the attributes access the teams to find out what’s consistent across all the force. The only attribute he could find consistent with 100% of us the sense of levity – humor. (32:12)• In the darkest moments of our careers, you’ll find the funniest things (33:20)• There’s this one young officer standing there, smiling ear to ear. I said “Yo dude, I just cancelled your Christmas break, they got you wet and sandy. Why are you smiling? [His response was] “This is everything I was waiting for, and everything I hoped it would be.” (35:59)• Press into the suffering. All of a sudden, it’s not enjoyable, but it changes your mindset. (36:47)• [Marcus] McGraw had more fractures than he had legs. No quit in this dude. (47:18)• The guy next to me, Greg Klein, a huge Green Beret and Marine Force Recon. The instructor says “Klein, what’re you doing here? You’re Army Gree

Beyond the Green Beret — Healing, Creativity, and AdvocacyIn this week’s powerful episode, Marcus and Melanie sit down with Beau Dooley, a former Green Beret whose journey has taken him from the frontlines of war to the frontlines of mental health advocacy. Clint reflects on his years cycling between combat zones and home life—navigating the difficult shift between being a soldier and a loving husband. Though proud of his military service, Clint shares why he no longer lets the title of Green Beret define him. Instead, he has embraced writing and public speaking to help remove the stigma surrounding mental health treatment for veterans. Clint opens up about the invisible battles many veterans face when trying to reintegrate into society and how creative outlets like poetry have been a source of healing and purpose. His mission: to encourage fellow veterans to find their own voices, their own paths, and a renewed sense of belonging.Beau shares about his life as a Green Beret and the toll of constant transition, the identity struggles veterans face after service, the therapeutic power of creativity and poetry, breaking the stigma around PTSD and mental health treatment, and building a supportive community for veteransIn This Episode You Will Hear:• That resentment or that hurt that you didn’t deal with is affecting every other relationship in your life. (10:51)• A person that constantly needs to hide behind their successes is not gonna let you in emotionally. (12:06)• It’s totally okay to just want to be where you need to be and then realize “Oh, it happened again”. It was knee jerk reaction. I’ve been doing this since I was younger. I kinda lost my way. I need to check in with myself spiritually. I need to take better care of myself. I need to go say I’m sorry to some people. (12:29)• I was born with an innate wanting to know “What have you been through, and wonder what it’s like to be them. (14:30)• You never want to make joining the military an emotional decision. (19:58)• No one else can be you. (25:58)• I don’t tell a single war story in the book. It’s a collection of poetry and prose, and the narrative about the healing process. I take people into my sickest, darkest spots. (40:01)• You’re not you right now. Once they can convince me – I see it in their eyes – my brother – okay, you’re good. That was a dangerous spot and you needed for someone to sit on you for 72 hours, and just be there for you. Don’t let you keep drinking, take you guns, and make sure you’re okay before you give all that stuff back. (44:04)• I realize my wife needed me, but there was no freaking way I was gonna let my team go back to Afghanistan without me. That’s when I realized I had 2 masters. (45:52)• When you leave your heart at home and you go to a place like that, it’s easy to lose yourself in the violence, because you no longer have your moral compass leading the way

From Battlefield to Breakthrough: Jared Ogden's Mission to Revolutionize Training In this week's Team Never Quit episode, Marcus & Melanie welcome Jared Ogden, CEO of Triumph Systems and former U.S. Navy SEAL, to the show.Jared's remarkable journey from leading missions in Afghanistan to leading one of the most innovative training companies in the country is a story of resilience, vision, and transformation. Drawing from real-world tactical experience, Jared created Triumph Systems and the Brass Training System with a singular goal: to enhance the training and preparation of military and law enforcement personnel.In this episode, Jared shares how instinctual decisions made during deployments shaped his approach to developing cutting-edge training tools that emphasize life-saving decision-making under pressure. He reflects on his transition from being the "arrow" on the battlefield to becoming the "archer" — equipping today’s warriors with the tools they need to succeed. Jared also discusses how Triumph Systems bridges the gap between elite training and accessibility, offering solutions that don't require massive budgets or facilities.If you're passionate about leadership, innovation, or serving those who protect us, you won’t want to miss this inspiring conversation with a true trailblazer who’s changing the future of tactical training. In This Episode You Will Hear:• My parents encouraged the kids to find what they’re interested in, to be productive and to live a productive, rewarding life. (5:50).• The more you can overlap what you’re interested in, and what you’re good at, with what someone will pay you to do, the more successful you will be. (6:05)At a very early age, I knew what I wanted to do when I grew up. I knew that I wanted to be a Navy SEAL. (7:26)• I was the honor graduate for my Leatherneck class. (22:49)• I was yelling at people, and barking out things and orders. Dan walked up to me nonchalantly and said “Jared, calmness is contagious, just talk.” I’ll never forget that. (36:54)• [During the] first turnover op between us and 7, Dan stepped on a pressure plate. Honestly, he should’ve died that day, but there was a tremendous effort [to help him]. (37:23)• Do the right thing. In that case, the right thing landed me in a spot on this television show for 2 seasons. (48:08)• We gotta figure out who we’re gonna take. Problem is there’s no targets, nothing to shoot. So, we take water bottles, piss in them, put ‘em on a fence. And the first handful of guys, commandos, that could shout those from 50 yards – those are the guys that rolled with us. (52:14)• I’m a warfighter. I’m not an engineer. But along the journey I met some guys who were product engineers. [We developed] a recreational division and a government division – making turning target systems and other targets and software, making people more proficient with their firea

Marines, Marathons, and Meaning: The Legacy of Col. Hank DoniganIn this week’s Team Neer Quit podcast, Marcus and Melanie speak with Retired Colonel Hank Donigan—a Marine whose life reads like a battle-hardened adventure novel. From his early days jumping out of airplanes at Fort Benning to leading troops through intense combat in Lebanon, Grenada, and Iraq, Col. Donigan has lived a life of sacrifice, courage, and service.A graduate of the Naval Academy and a 30-year Marine Corps veteran, Donigan shares the emotional and physical toll of war, including his own battle with PTSD and traumatic brain injury. Yet, rather than slowing down, he has turned pain into purpose—running marathons nearly every week and using each mile to raise awareness and funds for wounded service members through the Semper Fi the likeable guy. But there are some things that your inexperienced troops don’t know, and you have to be the hard guy – a bit of a prick. But if you’re not willing to do that and you let things slide, people are gonna get hurt and you’re not gonna bring everybody home. (31:31)• There was a group of engineers that were out playing football. All of a sudden, the first round came in, and one of the marines hit the deck and his helmet rolled off. The next round came in and a piece of shrapnel took the top of his head off. (32:47)• “Nice guys kill Marines” is something I live by and continue to teach. (33:42)• I learned how critical fitness was to leadership and combat leadership. (35:47)• Marcus, three’s things about you, being a SEAL and being a sailor that will be with you till the day y

Combat Veteran Turned Motivational SpeakerIn this week’s powerful episode from Team Never Quit, Marcus and Melanie meet with Evangelo “Vann” Morris—a retired Navy Lieutenant Commander, global speaker, and devoted patriot whose service spans over 30 years across the military and government sectors. From humble beginnings in Folsom, Louisiana, to elite missions across 45 countries, Vann’s journey is a masterclass in resilience, leadership, and purpose.Vann began his career aboard nuclear-powered submarines, receiving intensive training in nuclear propulsion and thermonuclear weaponry before commissioning as an officer. As a Naval leader, he directed high-risk Visit, Board, Search, and Seizure (VBSS) missions in volatile waters, including a record-setting Colombian drug seizure of 14 metric tons of cocaine.His distinguished career includes deployments on nearly every type of Navy vessel—from aircraft carriers to submarines—and pivotal roles at the Pentagon, Afghanistan with the 82nd Airborne, and U.S. Special Operations Command (SOCOM). In his final assignments, he served as Combat Systems Officer, Anti-Terrorism Officer, and Tactical Action Officer aboard the USS McCampbell.Since retiring in 2014, Vann has continued to serve by mentoring Special Operations Forces as an Information Operations Subject Matter Expert. He’s also a passionate public speaker, dedicated to honoring veterans and inspiring the next generation with the enduring message of freedom.In this episode, we discuss: Life aboard a ballistic missile submarine Lessons learned from serving alongside the 82nd Airborne and SOCOM How public speaking became his next mission field Connect with the legacy. Be inspired by the leadership. Learn from the life of Evangelo “Vann” Morris.In This Episode You Will Hear:• I’m one of 16 kids on my biological mother’s side, and one of 8 kids on my biological father’s side. (6:09)• My mother was a sharecropper in Selma, Alabama. (11:47)• [my brother] Martin was riding on a bike with his big brother. They were crossing the street to get to a general store. As they were crossing the street, here came a car. Within a second, the car was on them. It broke both of [my big brother’s] s legs. He was almost able to do it, but the car clipped his legs broke both of his legs. The car hit Martin, broke his back, snapped his neck and went up into the air, came down, bled out, and died immediately. The car kept going. Our mother was notified, and we never knew what happened. (13:28)• In my 2nd year as a seventh grader, I was chatty in class and the teacher said: “You see son this is why you’re not gonna be anything in life. This is why you’re gonna be a total failure. As a matter of fact, you’re not gonna do any better than your dad. (15:58)• The commanding officer starts talking.

From Ranger to Representative: Jason Crow on Service, Sacrifice, and Solutions In this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus and Melanie are honored to welcome Congressman Jason Crow, who represents Colorado’s Sixth Congressional District.A former Army Ranger and Bronze Star recipient, Jason brings the heart of a public servant and the grit of a soldier to Congress. From working minimum-wage jobs in high school to deploying to Iraq and Afghanistan with the 82nd Airborne Division and elite 75th Ranger Regiment, Jason’s journey is a powerful testament to servant leadership. We dive into:• Jason’s path from working-class roots to the battlefield and into the halls of Congress•  How his military experience shapes his approach to leadership and legislation•  His work helping veterans navigate life after serviceTune in for a powerful conversation on service, sacrifice, and putting people before politics. In This Episode You Will Hear:• I got hooked in the military for college money. (8:00)• [The military] totally changed the trajectory of my life. (9:54)• I always make it a point when I run into a Vietnam vet; I say “Welcome Home.” (16:20)• [Marcus] Q: “Did you sign up for ranger school? What’s that like?”   A: “Well, it sucks.” (20:22)• Georgia is cold in the winter. It’s just a fuck fest. You’re just cold and tired and hungry for 2 months. (21:05)• College is good, but I tell a lot of folks is [to learn] a trade. (35:40)• The civil military divide: How little understanding a lot of people in America have of military service. (39:53)• To be a veteran advocate, you had to be the squeaky wheel in politics. (41:08)• Morgan [Luttrell] and I have this bill trying to stop veteran suicides in VA facilities. (43:34)• We can only make good policy if we have good information. (44:47)• [Marcus] “You and I don’t need enemies – we have friends.” (48:21)• [Marcus] “My brother never says anything nice to me.” (48:30)• [Melanie: Vets should] “Support each other, love each other, lift each other up. Talk shit in a good way. Hold each other accountable.” (49:10)• The greatest generation fought WWII, defeated fascism, and they came back and became the civic leaders, the political leaders, the business leaders. They set the standard for what citizenship is about. (52:57)• We have the Bipartisan Veteran Caucus in congress. We call it the Noah’s Ark caucus, because you’ve gotta join with somebody from the other side of the aisle. (54:23)Socials:  - Bio: https://crow.house.gov/about   - X: https://x.com/RepJasonCrow   - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RepJasonCrow/   - Ins