Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & Work

What happens when you think you heard God clearly… but life turns out completely different?In this honest and deeply personal conversation, host Gea Gort sits down again with Bill Job to talk about disappointment, closed doors, wrong assumptions, and learning to trust God beyond outcomes. Together they explore what it means to live with God instead of merely doing things for Him.Bill shares stories of missing direction, unexpected detours, surrender, desires, identity, and the surprising freedom that comes from relationship over performance. From airplanes and mission life to unanswered expectations and spiritual growth, this episode is full of vulnerable reflections and practical wisdom for anyone trying to discern God’s voice in everyday life.Timeline00:00 – Introduction00:20 – What if you thought God spoke… but things turned out differently?01:16 – Bill shares how often he “misses it” and learning to recover quickly02:47 – Fear of making wrong decisions and learning to trust God04:46 – Surrender, obedience, and the adventure of following Jesus06:26 – “Slave” language, identity, and God’s character07:47 – Does following God mean losing yourself?09:01 – Airplanes, desires, and how God gives gifts12:33 – Sacrifice, suffering, and religious thinking14:03 – Dying to self versus living resurrected life18:17 – Still learning after decades of walking with God19:24 – The oil drilling story: when the real “oil” was people21:04 – Closed doors, disappointment, and healing deeper issues24:05 – Ministry success versus relationship with God26:28 – From performance and goals to deeper intimacy28:01 – Spiritual warfare and opposition29:21 – Final reflections and looking ahead to future conversationsThis conversation doesn’t offer simple formulas or “five steps to success” — but it does invite you into a more relational, honest, and freeing walk with God.#KingdomKeys #BillJob #HearingGod #ChristianPodcast #FaithAndWork #BusinessAsMission #DiscerningGodsVoice #ChristianLife #SpiritualGrowth #GeaGort

In this thought-provoking episode, Bill Job explores a powerful metaphor: just as ALS disconnects the brain from the body, many believers live disconnected from the Head — Jesus Himself.Bill shares why hearing God’s voice is not reserved for a spiritual elite, but is meant to be a normal part of everyday life. From practical stories about daily decisions to deeper reflections on identity, shame, joy, and intimacy with God, this conversation challenges religious mindsets and invites listeners into a more relational walk with Jesus.Together, Bill and Gea discuss:What “Spiritual ALS” means for the ChurchWhy many believers struggle to hear God’s voiceThe difference between conviction and condemnationHow church culture and shame can block intimacy with GodLearning to recognize God’s “accent”Living with joy in ordinary daily lifeWhy following Jesus should feel more relational than religiousThis episode is both deeply practical and spiritually refreshing — especially for anyone longing to experience a closer, more natural relationship with God.📌 In the next episode, Bill will discuss what happens when we think we heard God… but things turn out differently than expected.👉 Subscribe for more conversations on hearing God, Kingdom living, business, life, and faith.#HearingGod #KingdomLiving #ChristianPodcast #BillJob #FaithAndWork #IntimacyWithGod #SpiritualGrowth #KingdomKeys

What if play isn’t a luxury—but a key to a child’s future?In this episode, Bill Job and I sit down with Ferdi van den Bergh to explore a different side of his journey—far beyond business in the Netherlands. This time, we dive into his heart for children in Uganda and the story behind Tjeko, a growing social enterprise creating spaces where kids can simply be kids.Ferdi shares how a simple moment—watching children peeking through a fence at others playing—sparked a vision:What if every child had access to joy, creativity, and play?From that moment, Tjeko was born. What started as a personal desire to create something for his own daughter has grown into a mission reaching thousands of children—combining business and ministry in a sustainable way.This conversation is about more than playgrounds. It’s about:Seeing the gold in people. Building something that is both social and profitableChoosing joy—even in difficult seasonsAnd discovering how God can use your natural talents for a bigger purpose💡 Key takeaway: You don’t have to separate business and mission. Sometimes, the most powerful impact starts with simply noticing what’s missing—and responding.🔔 Subscribe for more conversations on faith, business, and impact.

What if the real “gold” in your business isn’t your strategy… but your people?In this episode, we sit down with Ferdi van den Bergh to explore a powerful shift in leadership: from managing performance to discovering hidden value in the people around you.Ferdi shares insights from his upcoming book 'Goud in Handen' (Gold in Hands) and his work with businesses across the Netherlands. Together, with Bill Job, Gea Gort, we unpack what it really means to “see” people—not just for what they do, but for who they are and what they carry.This conversation goes beyond theory. It’s about real businesses, real pressure, and the tension between profit and people—and how both actually belong together.🔑 What you’ll learn in this episode: Why your employees are the real “gold” in your organizationHow to recognize hidden potential in your teamThe role of vision in unlocking people’s valueWhy timing and patience matter in leadershipThe balance between business results and caring for peopleA simple but powerful practice to start seeing people differently💡 One takeaway to remember: Take two minutes and ask yourself: “When did someone truly see me—and what did that unlock?” Now go and do that for someone else.📘 Ferdi’s book 'Goud in Handen' (Gold in Hands) launches during a symposium Gold Within, June 23rd in the Netherlands, for info see https://goud-in-handen.nl/  If this episode resonates, don’t forget to like, subscribe, and share it with someone who leads others—at work, at home, or anywhere in between.

What happens when business stops being just about profit and starts becoming a place of discipleship, pastoral care, and listening to God?In this second conversation with Jonathan Brake, we go deeper into what it means to build a disciple-making business. Jonathan shares from his work coaching business owners in the United States, helping leaders create healthy cultures that start with their own formation before function.Together, we explore how hearing God’s voice can shape leadership, coaching, company culture, and the way we value people in the workplace. This conversation is full of practical wisdom for business owners, leaders, and anyone who wants to follow Jesus more closely in everyday work.We talk about:why healthy businesses start with healthy leadershow Jonathan coaches business owners by first listening to their storythe role of listening prayer in leadership and strategyhow God speaks in the middle of business decisionswhy employees are not just resources, but people with eternal valuewhat it means to pastor and disciple people in the workplacehow abiding in God changes the way we leadThis episode is an encouragement for anyone who wants to move from living for God to living with Him — also in business.#JonathanBrake #DiscipleMakingBusiness #FaithAndWork #ChristianLeadership #KingdomBusiness #HearingGod #BusinessAsMission #WorkplaceMinistry #LeadershipCoaching #BAM

What happens when the business you poured your heart into suddenly comes to an end — and you are left not only with uncertainty, but also with shame?In this honest and hope-filled episode, we sit down with Kingdom-minded leader Jonathan Brake to talk about the personal impact of losing his business and the inner journey that followed. Beyond the practical consequences, Jonathan shares openly about the emotional weight he carried — the sense of failure, and the struggle with shame that many entrepreneurs experience but rarely talk about.This conversation offers encouragement for entrepreneurs, leaders, and professionals navigating setbacks, transitions, or unexpected endings. It is a reminder that while businesses can be lost and reputations can feel shaken, purpose rooted in God’s Kingdom remains steady — and new direction can emerge from even the most painful experiences.🎙 Kingdom Keys for Business, Life and Work is part of the BAM Moves platform, equipping entrepreneurs and leaders to integrate faith, purpose, and practical action in business and everyday life. You can also watch the video version on BAM Moves YouTube channel.

In this episode of Kingdom Keys for Business, Life and Work, we continue the conversation with Leen de Bruyne—entrepreneur, author of 'Building a Startup Without Going Crazy, and founder of the Living Hope venture capital fund. Leen shares how a clear sense of calling led him to start Living Hope, a European, faith-driven investment fund—confirmed in unexpected ways. He talks openly about courage, risk, and learning to walk “on water” in business. Central themes include investing in community, stewardship over ownership, and building from meaning instead of fear. This conversation invites you to move from fear to meaning, from ego to calling, a from control to trust—in business and beyond.On Wednesday, March 25th, 2026, the first cohort session of the Training Kingdom Mindsets for Business starts. Interested in this ten-week online training together with Christian entrepreneurs from around the world? Registration and more info at http://www.bammoves.com   #ChristianEntrepreneurship#FaithDrivenInvesting#KingdomBusiness#ChristianBusiness#VentureCapital#BusinessAsMission#FaithAtWork#ChristianLeadership#KingdomEntrepreneur#Stewardship

Christian entrepreneur burnout is real. How do you build a startup without losing your identity, your faith, or your soul?In this episode, Leen de Bruyne shares how startup success led to anxiety and burnout—and how rediscovering his identity in Christ changed the way he builds, leads, and lives.The link to get Leen's book 'Building a Startup Without Going Crazy >> https://leendebruyne.com    On Wednesday, March 25th, 2026, the first cohort session of the Training Kingdom Mindsets for Business starts. Interested in this ten-week online training together with Christian entrepreneurs from around the world? Registration and more info at http://www.bammoves.com

What do you do when a business that should work… doesn’t?After years of seeing God’s tangible involvement in business overseas, Bill Job shares what happened when he started a company in the U.S. — and the results were very different. No quick wins. No obvious favor. Just losses, questions, and an invitation to go deeper.This episode explores leadership in uncertainty, moving beyond “common sense,” and rediscovering what it means to truly invite God into the work — even when the story isn’t finished yet.A rerun of 'Thriving Amidst Adversities. Part 4'. (April 2024)Training Kingdom Mindsets for Business. Gea Gort and Bill developed a 10-week training program to empower business leaders and professionals to partner with God at work. The training includes six online sessions in a small cohort. The next cohort starts March 25th, 2026. Look at our site www.bammoves.com. Mail Gea when you're interested >> [email protected]

What does it mean to be sustained by God?After a 58-day fast, Bill shares, “The Lord has been feeding me. This wasn’t about willpower or heroics—Jesus is the hero.”In this episode, Bill reflects on joyful fasting, abiding in Christ, and how deeper dependence on God brought clarity, peace, and unexpected movement in both business and daily life.What could change if God truly became your source?As promised in the podcast, hereby the link to Boterna >> https://www.boterna.com

In this episode, Gea and Bill explore fasting in a business context as a way of seeking spiritual breakthrough rather than mere self-discipline. Bill shares how he first learned fasting after feeling rebuked for prioritizing an all-night hobby project over all-night prayer with employees. He then completed a six-month rhythm of weekday fasting and overnight Friday prayer, finding the body adapts and fasting becomes a “tool” for intimacy with God. Bill recounts a later 40+ day fast in China, connected to repentance for ancestors’ involvement in the opium trade, during which he felt sustained and did not lose weight. Now on day 40 of another fast, he’s pressing for resolution in two struggling companies, emphasizing relational “investments,” joy, worship, and spiritual warfare over blaming people.

In this podcast episode, Gea and Bill discuss how to thrive amid adversity, especially when opposition comes from people rather than circumstances. Using Psalm 23, Bill reframes faith as life within a kingdom at war, not a place of constant peace. He explains how misunderstanding this leads to discouragement and self-blame. Through vivid stories from his work in China, including threats to his family and betrayal by colleagues, Bill shows how fear, judgment, and anger can trap believers. Drawing on the Sermon on the Mount, Bill emphasizes obeying Jesus’ commands—loving enemies, releasing judgment, and trusting God as defender. True thriving, he concludes, comes through obedience, surrender, and remaining where God has placed us, even in conflict

This episode explores how best practices and spiritual insight can work together rather than compete. Bill shares stories from business, while Gea shares from her role as leader of Business as Mission (BAM) Netherlands, how prayer, prophetic insight, and “God downloads” strengthen rational thinking, practical systems, innovation, joy, and everyday professional life.

Gea Gort talks with Bill Job about building a kingdom culture in business, where eternal values shape everyday decisions. Through powerful stories—hiring beggars, honoring every employee, prayer, and practicing the “400-year rule”—Bill shares how an eternal mindset transforms leadership, company culture, and the way we see each person God loves forever. (This is a rerun of the episode 'Honoring All People has Eternal Value' May  2024)'Kingdom Mindsets for Business' training Gea and Bill developed a 10-week training program, including six online sessions in a small cohort, to facilitate interaction. Cohorts start in February, May and September. Look at our site www.bammoves.com. Mail Gea when you're interested >> [email protected]

In this podcast episode, we explore how people can receive practical guidance from God in their everyday work. Bill Job shares that he first noticed unexpected ideas coming to him and later found biblical examples, such as God giving detailed instructions for the tabernacle. He describes experiences in manufacturing, where creative solutions “just appeared” and significantly improved efficiency. Bill believes these ideas are not self-generated but received. Other inventors he knows have also recognized that their innovations came through inspiration rather than personal genius. Bill explains that these insights often come when a person is relaxed, worshiping, or just waking up, when the mind is open. The key is a childlike, trusting relationship with God—working together rather than striving or feeling alone.

In this podcast, Gea and Bill speak with John Cobb, who is the founder of an engineering software company serving U.S. auto dealerships. Passionate about cars and technology, he describes himself as a “visionary Christian technology entrepreneur.” John shares how worldly success had left him empty. He transitioned from a 'religious' Christian to a follower of Christ and how that affects his daily working life. He emphasizes “functionally abiding” in the Lord—inviting God into daily operations, praying with his team, and valuing people over profit. This shift, both the hosts and John agree, is a lifelong process of transformation through Christ.Briefly, John reflects on his participation in the training Kingdom Mindsets for Business, as he joined one of the cohorts Gea and Bill are leading. You can find more info about the training on this page >>

In this episode, Bill shares his experience of facing life-threatening danger while starting a business in China. He hired a man he trusted from a Bible study, only to discover this person had a dangerous past and threatened his family.This experience reshaped his understanding of discipleship: it’s not just teaching Scripture but modeling obedience, including loving enemies. Bill illustrates this through the “tag team” image, where God fights alongside us. By blessing those who harm us, we release them into God’s hands, gaining freedom and spiritual growth.Training Kingdom Mindsets for Business.  Gea and Bill developed a 10-week training program to empower business leaders and professionals to partner with God at work. The training includes six online sessions in a small cohort, to facilitate interaction. Cohorts start in February, May and September. Look at our site www.bammoves.com. Mail Gea when you're interested >> [email protected]

Stephanie and Armando Rojas shifted from traditional missions to business-driven impact in Africa. In the last episode, they shared how they initially aimed for missional NGO work in Somalia, but felt guided to a more strategic approach, exploring business opportunities to create sustainable change. They chose Ethiopia for its entrepreneurial ecosystem, spent two years praying and preparing. Meanwhile, they started businesses in Costa Rica to fund their mission. Overcoming the $85,000 startup requirements in Ethiopia, as well as legal hurdles and bureaucracy, they relied on faith, persistence, and flexibility. Stephanie became the first foreign female architect registered locally in Ethiopia. Their story shows how God can use personal skills in unexpected ways to serve His kingdom.You can learn more about the 10-week online Kingdom Mindsets for Business training, including six online sessions with Bill and Gea. Please visit this page  on the site of BAM Moves >>

Tune in to Stephany and Armando Rojas' journey. In this first episode with this couple from Costa Rica, they share their backgrounds as pastors' kids and how God disrupted their missionary plans when they were missionaries in Somalia. Gently asking them to lay down their dreams, and to consider a more strategic approach: faith-driven business. 'Kingdom Mindsets for Business' training Gea and Bill developed a 10-week training program, including six online sessions in a small cohort, to facilitate interaction. Cohorts start in February, May and September. Look at our site www.bammoves.com. Mail Gea when you're interested >> [email protected]

In this podcast, Eric van Otten encourages listeners to act in faith on the opportunities God places in their hearts. Eric is a Dutch baker who runs a multi-generational bakery with 140 employees, producing natural, additive-free bread. He loves sharing Jesus' love with the people he meets through his business, and this love also inspires him to impact communities globally. He helped establish bakeries in needy areas in various countries and created the “BakeTainer”—a mobile bakery designed for challenging environments like refugee camps or war zones. By combining a sustainable business model with practical solutions such as solar panels and water purification, these units empower local entrepreneurship and foster community growth. You can find more on the page of the foundation, The Breadhouse.

A thought-provoking exchange between business leader Bill Job and prophet Sander Wuister about the role of prophecy in business. Sander regularly prays for businesses and (business)leaders. Bill shares his experiences in this area and why he decided to have a prophet as a business consultant on the payroll. Listen to this revealing talk about the pitfalls and benefits. Bill and Sander also encourage us to develop this gift in our own lives, as a loving Father likes to give us insight and revelation. This episode is a rerun and was first released in August 2023.Sander Wuister holds a PhD in chemistry, has held a leading position in a business setting, and developed his prophetic gifting in the meantime. He is now a full-time prophet, runs a School of Prophecy (in Dutch) and wrote a book 'Woorden van Leven'. See www.woordenvanleven.nl  Did this episode spark your interest? Check out the course Kingdom Mindsets for Business, Life & Work with short and to-the-point audio and video material based on real life experiences.

Do Christians make good employees? "Some are excellent," shares Bill Job from experience, "But many business owners share with me that Christians can be lousy workers." Why is this? Bill and Gea discuss the meaning of grace and some worldviews that hinder us from experiencing our job as a spiritual experience and an assignment under the Lord's guidance. September 3rd, 2025: next start of cohort 'Kingdom Mindsets for Business' training Gea and Bill developed a 10-week training program, including six online sessions in a small cohort, to facilitate interaction. Cohorts start in February, May and September. Look at our site www.bammoves.com. Mail Gea when you're interested >> [email protected]

In this episode, the discussion explores the integration of worship and spiritual practices into business, emphasizing that aligning with God in business can lead to improved problem-solving and greater peace, even amid challenges. Bill and Gea talk with Pauline Skeates, a therapist and researcher from New Zealand who developed Insight Focused neuroTherapy (IFnT). IFnT focuses on creating a safe environment, both internally and externally, to open individuals to new experiences and insights. September 3rd, 2025: start of new cohort 'Kingdom Mindsets for Business' Gea and Bill developed a 10-week training program, including six online sessions in a small cohort, to facilitate interaction. Cohorts start in February, May and September. More info: www.bammoves.com.

This episode examines the importance of place in Business as Mission, as people may be led to specific locations by God for His purposes. Gea and Bill share personal stories of discovering God's calling through their experiences in different places, and discuss practical ways to embrace and love a city or place, understanding its history, culture, and needs. They emphasize the concept of "thin places" where God's presence seems near. Listeners are encouraged to seek these thin places in their areas that welcome God's presence and to explore deeper theological insights through resources like Gea's book, "God in the City: A Missional Way of Life in an Urban Context".

In this podcast, Bill and Gea talk with serial entrepreneur Emmie van Halder.  Emmie shares her life's journey of blending business and faith. Over the past ten years, faith and work have become inseparable for her, but this integration wasn't always the case. In her youth, she joined Youth With A Mission (YWAM), but upon returning to her home country, the Netherlands, she didn't feel at home in a church. Meanwhile, her focus shifted to entrepreneurship, and she founded multiple startups. Her business life thrived, and she lost her connection to Christianity. A pivotal moment came when an investment banker, who was also a pastor, invited her to church, leading to a life-changing return to faith in 2013.She found a church fellowship and connected with other Kingdom-minded businesspeople. She became a board member of Business as Mission (BAM) Netherlands, and she is investing in (BAM) start-ups, especially those with a focus on Africa. For Emmie, faith and work are now inseparable, and she encourages others to trust God’s guidance in all aspects of life.Learn more about the training Bill and Gea developed, next cohort starts in September > www.bammoves.com =

Kitty and Bill Job share their journey of starting a business in China, initially expecting to be traditional missionaries but instead becoming involved in a business venture. The couple discusses their various roles in the company, the impact of prayer, and how their business has become an excellent way to integrate with ministry. They both highlight the importance of faith, flexibility, and prayer throughout their journey. Bill expresses deep gratitude for Kitty's support, acknowledging that without her, their success in China would not have been possible.Training Kingdom Mindsets for BusinessGea and Bill developed a 10-week training, including 6 online sessions in a small cohort to allow for interaction. Cohorts start in February, May and September. Look at our site www.bammoves.com Mail us when you're interested > [email protected]

In this episode, Bill and Gea discuss thriving in the face of adversity. Bill shares how he saw God's faithfullness while running a company in China, but not all situations ended successfully. Like the closure of a factory due to an unexpected economic downturn and the emotional difficulty it caused among employees. Bill emphasizes that thriving amid adversity is about shifting focus from personal success to seeing God's role as the true hero. He encourages listeners to start small, ask God for help in everyday situations, and build a history of faith that strengthens over time. With enough experience, challenges become opportunities to witness God's faithfulness.Training Kingdom Mindsets for BusinessGea and Bill developed a 10-week training, including 6 online sessions in a small cohort to allow for interaction. Cohorts start in February, May and September. Look at our site www.bammoves.com. Mail us when you're interested > [email protected]

In this episode Gea and Bill talk with Walter aan de Wiel, a Dutch entrepreneur who co-founded SEVI, a business providing stock financing to small shops in Kenya and other developing countries. These small shops, often no larger than a square meter, struggle with the lack of credit and must pay upfront for their stock. Sevi allows them to purchase on credit, benefiting from bulk discounts and deliveries, which improves their efficiency and profitability.Walter blends technology with personal relationships, leveraging local salespeople to build trust with shop owners before introducing them to Sevi's platform. The business model has been successful in reducing default rates and offering ethical, low-interest loans, as opposed to informal and unjust lending systems.Walter's entrepreneurial journey was influenced by a prophecy about working in Africa, leading him to study and work in countries like Kenya and Kosovo. Despite setbacks like COVID-19, Sevi grew rapidly after 2021. Walter emphasizes the importance of faith, perseverance, and an open mind to new opportunities, even in challenging times.The promised link to the book 'Operating in the Courts of Heaven' by Robert Henderson.

In this episode, Michiel shares his journey of how his first love was reignited—his relationship with God and a renewed sense of purpose. Having once built a business rooted in faith but ultimately burning out, Michiel speaks candidly about the challenges of maintaining spiritual clarity amid the pressures of entrepreneurship.A turning point came for him at the Business as Mission (BAM) Congress, where an encounter awakened his calling toward business in the Middle East, particularly Iraq.  If you want to contact Michiel, please email [email protected], and we will connect you.Training Kingdom Mindsets for BusinessYou are invited to join the May 2025 cohort and follow the ten-week online training 'Kingdom Mindsets for Business' hosted by Bill and Gea. The start will be May 14th, 2025. More about the content of the training, see BAM Moves >

In this episode, Matt Wagner continues to share his experiences of integrating ministry and business. Building on his previous story, he elaborates on his journey as a business and church leader. Matt refers to the five-fold ministry model, which links the church’s structure to the human body, and how the five gifts from Ephesians 4—apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, and evangelists—are essential for a healthy church. This framework also applies to business, where Matt and Bill see a similar need for the various gifts to function within companies. Matt shares how these principles can lead to a more significant impact when business leaders and pastors collaborate, moving away from competition and towards mutual support for God's kingdom. Both Bill and Matt advocate for a servant-leader mindset, where both pastors and business leaders work together in humility, focusing on shared goals and mutual respect, instead of ego. Matt and Gea refer to the global ministry SEAPC as an example where they have seen this modeled. The conversation ends with an optimistic view on the growing shift towards integrating faith into daily work life, with increasing momentum worldwide. Training Kingdom Mindsets for BusinessYou are invited to join the May 2025 cohort and follow the ten-weeks online training 'Kingdom Mindsets for Business' hosted by Bill and Gea. Two different cohorts will start on May 14th, 2025. For more info about the difference between the two cohorts and the content of the training, see BAM Moves >

Matt Wagner believes that the future of ministry involves blending the realms of church and business to fulfill God’s calling in new and transformative ways. He shares his journey of learning to embrace both his talents in church leadership and business entrepreneurship. Matt felt a calling to plant churches early in life, but church planting proved financially difficult, leading him to venture into business. He started a roofing company, which grew rapidly. Eventually, he expanded into custom home building. It was a busy life, and he felt the disconnect between the church and the business world. Yet he felt God wouldn’t let him stop the business and grew in his conviction that God doesn’t want a divide between church and business. Instead that they should join hands in building God’s Kingdom. In the next episode with Matt, he will address some of the things needed for this to happen.Training Kingdom Mindsets for BusinessJoin the May cohort and follow the ten-weeks online training 'Kingdom Mindsets for Business' hosted by Bill and Gea! Two different cohorts will start  on May 14th, 2025. For more info about the difference between the two cohorts and more about the content of the training, see BAM Moves >

Hana is a business owner in Iraq. He has a desire to create networks of Christian entrepreneurs in his home country, and to develop projects that provide jobs and support ministries. In this podcast he shares his journey into business. Hana was raised in a Catholic family and experienced a profound transformation when he was eighteen years old. He started his business in 2018 after working for many years in non-profits. His journey from employee to business owner was challenging, particularly due to his internal struggle with transitioning from the non-profit to for-profit mindset. Over time, he realized the value of business in serving society, especially through job creation, and shifted his perspective on the role of business in God's kingdom.His company, which focuses on consulting and business development, now employs 12 people. He experienced changed lives in his company, and emphasizes the importance of providing job opportunities and how businesses can serve the community. Therefore, one of his goals is to open a hotel, provide job opportunities, and fund other projects.If you'd like to come into contact with Hana, mail: [email protected] Hana’s story highlights how God’s involvement in business can bring transformation, and he shares his personal experiences of seeking God for direction and embracing faith in every step.Join the May cohort and follow the online training 'Kingdom Mindsets for Business' hosted by Bill and Gea! Two different cohorts will start with the ten-week online training on May 14th, 2025. For more info about these cohorts and training, see BAM Moves >

Bill recounts a journey of entrepreneurial resilience amidst adversity, starting with a small business venture in China. Despite challenges like political tensions and losing his first business partner, he persisted. Through faith and innovation, he diversified into stained glass and later pioneered collectible villages. Each setback, like losing a major client, only spurred creative solutions and spiritual growth. Bill emphasizes relying on God's guidance and maintaining a humble, inclusive workplace culture, empowering unexpected leaders. His story illustrates how faith and business intertwine, urging listeners to see challenges as opportunities for spiritual and professional growth, fostering a unique kingdom-oriented approach in business practices.Training Kingdom Mindsets for BusinessThe 10-week online training with six sessions hosted by Bill and Gea starts three times a year: in February, May and September. The material is based on Bill's experiences on the workfloor. You are warmly invited to join others from around the globe; to seek together in a small group how to merge faith and work. More info: BAM Moves.

This episode with Bill Job encourages listeners to embrace a childlike attitude, characterized by trust, openness to learning, and a playful approach to challenges, which can lead to deeper spiritual growth and connection with God.Bill shares his journey of recognizing the limitations of his own knowledge and the need for intellectual humility. He describes a moment when God revealed to him the idea of having categories for understanding scripture, like wooden mailboxes. Without these categories, certain teachings and ideas would not make sense. Bill reflects on how this realization led to a shift in his thinking, encouraging him to be open to new perspectives and to embrace the learning process.The discussion also touches on the importance of childlike faith and trust in God, as well as the courage to try new things without overthinking them. Bill uses the metaphor of a child learning through experience rather than academic study, emphasizing that spiritual growth often comes through action and trust. The conversation highlights the value of being willing to take risks, even if they seem silly or unconventional, as part of growing in faith and experiencing the fullness of life that God offers.Training Kingdom Mindsets for BusinessThe 10-week online training with six sessions hosted by Bill and Gea starts three times a year: in February, May and September. The material is based on Bill's experiences on the workfloor. You are warmly invited to join others from around the globe; to seek together in a small group how to merge faith and work. More info: BAM Moves.

In this episode Bill shares how his initial perspective of God as a distant authority, changed through personal experiences that revealed God’s warm, engaging personality. One key moment was calculating the miracle of turning water into wine, which highlighted God’s celebration and relational nature.A reenactment of the prodigal son further showcased unconditional, overwhelming love.Influenced by these insights, Bill now practices inclusive, compassionate business leadership, hiring people based on their potential rather than conventional qualifications. His story encourages a deeper, genuine relationship with God that brings joy, adventure, and abundant life into work and everyday living.Training Kingdom Mindsets for BusinessThe 10-week online training with six sessions hosted by Bill and Gea starts three times a year: in February, May and September. The material is based on Bill's experiences on the workfloor. You are warmly invited to join others from around the globe; to seek together in a small group how to merge faith and work. More info: BAM Moves.

In this podcast Gea talks with Eric and Annebeth, a couple from the Netherlands, who are moving to Asia to expand a coffee business aimed at helping local farmers. While preparing for their move, they decided to work together with the mission organization Interserve, which supports people globally in integrating faith with their work. Because, besides helping farmers economically, they also seek ways to share their Christian faith. Their mission is not just to grow a business but to bring lasting change to the community. Their goal is to increase the number of farmers from 250 to 1,000, improving their livelihoods by helping them grow coffee, earn a steady income, and access education and healthcare. While the project is a business, its core mission is to provide jobs and social justice. Eric brings a background in financial management, and Annebeth specializes in sustainable investing, both of which they plan to apply to make the business more sustainable.Eric and Annebeth's story highlights the importance of using professional skills in building these kind of social (BAM) businesses, and they encourage listeners to consider how they can contribute to projects with a social impact.If you'd like to connect with Eric and Annebeth, you can do so by mailing  [email protected]. There is still time to join Bill and Gea's online training 'Kingdom Mindsets for Business', the next cohort will start February 6th. 2025 (instead of January) For more info, see BAMmoves.com.

Bart Kuijpers, co-founder of Coolblue, highlights the importance of integrating faith into entrepreneurship. In this conversation, Bart shares how Coolblue was launched in 1999, starting with selling MP3 players online. With a strong emphasis on excellent service and delighting customers, Coolblue became a highly recognized brand across the Netherlands. After 15 years, Bart yearned for more adventure and deeper alignment with God’s guidance. Bart then founded Royalis Investments with Maurits Roose, focusing on Christian entrepreneurs as they see them as potential modern-day pastors who can offer mentorship and guidance to their employees as well as to broader society. Bart wants to support those entrepreneurs with finances, leadership advice, and spiritual encouragement. While encouraging them to pursue impactful goals that extend beyond their lifetimes. Bill Job affirms Bart’s approach, reflecting on his own experiences in China where building a strong, collaborative team led to long-term influence. Together, they urge entrepreneurs to foster supportive communities, celebrate successes, and seek God’s direction. Listeners are invited to join the upcoming Kingdom-focused training, encouraging listeners to keep integrating faith and business pursuits for significant, enduring Kingdom impact.

In this episode, Gea, Bill and Mats Tunehag (Chairman of BAM Global) discuss the concept of Business as Mission and the realities of being “wounded healers” in the marketplace. Mats emphasizes that personal struggles, whether betrayals or depression, are not disqualifiers but part of a deeper process of transformation. He refers to the Japanese art form kintsugi—repairing broken pottery with gold—to illustrate how God doesn’t merely patch up our wounds but uses them to shape us into something more beautiful and whole. Bill emphasizes that responding to challenges with prayer, forgiveness, and reliance on God leads to unexpected blessings and inner healing.Central to the conversation is the conviction that real Business as Mission arises when we shift from an ego-driven “my story” approach to seeing ourselves as participants in God’s “theodrama.” Mats notes that embracing God’s larger narrative can bring both unpredictability and peace. The notion of “tikkun olam,” or repairing the world, underscores the call for Christ-followers to bring holistic transformation—spiritually and socio-economically—to communities.Throughout the discussion, the speakers stress authenticity, vulnerability, and the power of community support. They encourage others to keep going despite setbacks, trusting that God will work through each person’s unique journey for His greater redemptive purposes.Download here a free copy of Mats Tunehag's booklet 'Wounded Healers in the Marketplace' >>Join Bill and Gea for the online training Kingdom Mindsets for Business, the next cohort will start January 15th, 2025. For more info, see BAMmoves.com.What others say about the training: "The course has been really great, it has raised my expectations of not only God's involvement in the business but raised my expectations of what a daily partnership with the Lord can look like.""So Biblical yet so different than any Sunday school seminar, Sunday morning, college ministry or missions person says or teaches!""I loved the exercises, simple and practical. They really help to transfer what Bill shares and make it real and personal for myself."

In this podcast episode, Gea Gort, Bill Job, and Mats Tunehag discuss the global Business as Mission (BAM) movement. The movement’s foundation was shaped by global think tanks involving business people, theologians, and church leaders, resulting in over 35 reports exploring various BAM-related topics. One notable output was the Wealth Creation Manifesto, which explores biblical perspectives on wealth.The movement has grown exponentially over the past 30 years, with BAM businesses now operating in over 20 languages across multiple continents. Local, indigenous groups are increasingly adopting BAM principles, driven by their entrepreneurial spirit and the movement's decentralized nature. Various reports, like the BAM Manifesto and the Wealth Creation Manifesto, can be found at https://bamglobal.org/reports/ January 15th, 2025 the next cohort for the training Kingdom Mindsets for Business will start. More info, see BAMmoves.com.

In this episode, Gea Gort and Bill Job explore the role of imagination in deepening one’s spiritual journey and relationship with God. Bill shares his experiences of engaging with scripture through imaginative visualization; as a tool to perceive spiritual realities. He recounts practical examples, like visualizing sitting with God to review his stewardship of resources, which motivated him to implement transformative practices in his business. This included initiating prayer networks among employees, resulting in significant spiritual impact.He also describes reenacting the parable of the Prodigal Son, which profoundly revealed God's overwhelming love for humanity. These imaginative exercises not only deepened his own faith but also impacted others, bringing scriptural truths to life.Gea and Bill encourage listeners to explore how imagination can enrich their connection with God and make faith more vibrant and relational, underscoring that spiritual growth engages the heart and emotions as well as the mind.January 15th, 2025 the next cohort for the training Kingdom Mindsets for Business will start. More info, see BAMmoves.com.

This episode, titled "Do Not Worry," explores teachings from the Sermon on the Mount, focusing on the idea that Jesus' commands should be viewed as directives rather than suggestions. Bill Job emphasizes that worrying is not just a personal issue but something that displeases God, hindering spiritual growth. He challenges the cultural notion that worry is a sign of responsibility, presenting it instead as a barrier to deeper faith.Bill shares his journey of adopting a kingdom worldview, which shifts focus from a self-centered perspective to one that prioritizes God's Kingdom. He explains that anxiety is not merely an individual struggle but a spiritual matter that affects one's relationship with God and participation in the cosmic battle between good and evil. Bill recounts a story from his time in China, where a friend learned to trust God for provision while imprisoned, drawing strength from the teachings about not worrying.The conversation emphasizes the importance of a three-dimensional worldview, considering God, mankind, and the enemy. Bill uses the story of Job to illustrate that suffering often stems from the larger conflict between God's Kingdom and His opponent. He encourages listeners to adopt a mindset that frustrates the enemy and pleases God, as worry can be used against God’s faithfulness.As the episode progresses, Bill reflects on how his trust in God has grown over time. Initially struggling with small things, he now relies on God’s provision in larger circumstances, confident that God will come through due to His track record of faithfulness.

In this episode, Bill and Gea discuss personal relationships with God, focusing on the importance of communication and listening. They refer to the biblical image of God as a shepherd who knows each sheep by name, as seen in John 10. Bill shares his thoughts on hearing God's voice, emphasizing that it's not just a metaphor but a real experience. He highlights the importance of clear guidance from God and our role in listening and obeying. Gea shares her own journey of seeking divine direction during their marriage, which eventually led them to Mercy Ships. They reflect on how divine guidance can often be subtle and integrated into everyday life, rather than being marked by dramatic moments. Bill suggests that keeping an ongoing dialogue with God—rather than reserving communication for specific prayer times—can deepen the connection. Their conversation emphasizes the transformative power of viewing God as a loving figure, encouraging listeners to embrace a continuous, relational dynamic with the divine for personal growth in their spiritual journeys.Training Kingdom Mindsets for Business. Starting January 2025, Gea and Bill will host a 10-week online training cohort focused on practical discipleship relevant to our daily work lives.To learn more, visit www.BAMMoves.com and sign up for our newsletter to stay updated on the training details.

In this episode of the "Kingdom Keys for Business, Life and Work" podcast, Bill Job and Gea Gort explore the theme of receiving divine solutions or "downloads from Heaven." They emphasize that God can be practically involved in addressing the challenges faced at work, which can be life-changing. In this third episode on this theme, they build on their previous discussions, and delve deeper into how listeners can open themselves to receive insights from God, emphasizing that spiritual relationships should feel normal rather than "spiritual".Bill references George Washington Carver, who received profound insights into his work with peanuts, highlighting that spirituality can manifest in everyday experiences. Both hosts encourage listeners to actively listen for God's guidance, comparing it to a typical relationship where one must be attentive and responsive. They discuss the importance of not confusing personal desires with divine guidance, urging people to seek clarity from God regarding their desires and actions.Throughout the conversation, Bill shares personal stories about his journey, including how he came to terms with his identity and the implications of being "owned" by God. They stress the importance of surrendering personal agendas to align with God's purposes, reinforcing that this relationship can lead to fulfillment. By inviting listeners to engage in open dialogue with God, they aim to cultivate a deeper understanding of divine guidance and its practical application in everyday life. The episode concludes with an encouragement to embrace childlike faith in navigating the complexities of life and work.

Arun Prabhu needs to take a long-term approach to launch and advance Lancent’s mission: tackling poverty-related diseases through affordable innovations. 'For the past fifteen years, we've operated as a research and development firm,' Arun explains. 'Now, we're close to market entry and preparing to deliver our products to the vulnerable communities in malaria-endemic countries. That's where the rubber meets the road.'During our first podcast with Arun in June 2023, he recounted how he and his current business partner created their first malaria net at his home in 2010. Since our conversation, a year and a half has passed, and his team and office have doubled in size. Arun reflects on how he has witnessed God’s faithfulness in bringing the right team members and business partners on board. Beyond the passionate team who has extensive experience in the industry, he connected with partners like Wim Hasselman of MissionInvest who connected him with investors. 'I can't do it alone,' shares Arun, 'As we grow, I've learned that it's not just about the 'how' we do things, but also about 'with whom.'Landcent European office is located in the Netherlands. For more information, visit www.landcent.nl.More about the Business as Mission Congres November 28 & 29 in the Netherlands >> www.businessasmission.nl/en/More about BAM Moves and the training Kingdom Keys for Business

“Release the enabling to heal the world through business,” prays Arleen Westerhof at the end of this insightful conversation. Arleen is pastor, prophet, scientist and the founder of the Economic Summit. In this second podcast with her, she shares why we need to transform Global Aid and gives hopeful examples of how God is working through business to bring hope in needy areas worldwide. She firmly believes that God will grant wisdom to those who seek to align their businesses with His purposes of righteousness and justice, and encourages the listener: “Don’t think too small about what God may want to use you for. It only starts with the first step.” Arleen will speak at the Business as Mission Congress in the Netherlands on Thursday, November 28th, 2024.Arleen Westerhof initiated the Economic Summit and edited the book A Europe Africa Agenda 2025-2100. She is globally engaged, connecting business practitioners who catalyze positive change, facilitating collaboration and multiplication.In this episode, Don & Terri Larson are mentioned. Learn more about Sunshine Nut in Mozambique.Do you seek to align your business with God's purposes? The online training 'Kingdom Mindsets for Business' hosted by Bill and Gea will give you inspiration.

“In prayer, we ask God for divine solutions for sick systems," shares Arleen Westerhof in this episode. Besides being a pastor, prophet, and scientist, she is the initiator of the Economic Summit and initiator and editor of the book 'A Europe Africa Agenda 2025-2100'. She continues, "Through the love and wisdom of Christ, we are called to bring healing and hope to areas where there is no hope." Arleen is globally engaged and connects business practitioners who catalyze positive change, thereby facilitating collaboration and multiplication. Arleen will be speaking at the Business as Mission Congress on Thursday, November 28th in the Netherlands.

In this podcast, Bill Job shares the story of how, during a crisis, he received ideas from God that enabled him to build a new production line within two months. The customer, who had seen the product line before, was amazed by the result and repeatedly called it miraculous. According to Bill, receiving solutions like this results from a natural relationship with the Owner of the factory. "I don’t take myself and my own skill sets too seriously," Bill shares, adding, "Stay aligned with God, and be playful about it!"Training Kingdom Mindsets for Business. Starting January 2025, Gea and Bill will host a 10-week online training cohort focused on practical discipleship relevant to our daily work lives.To learn more, visit www.BAMMoves.com and sign up for our newsletter to stay updated on the training details.

"God wants to be involved in our practical daily work," shares Bill. This is the first of three interviews with Bill in which he shares how he receives divine solutions for challenges at work. He shares biblical and historical examples and some of his own experiences. Training Kingdom Mindsets for Business. In the first week of September 2024, Gea and Bill will host another 10-week training. Through joy-filled, to-the-point, easy-to-follow online lessons attractively presented in video, audio, and text, you’ll gain profound insights into how to align with God in life, work, and business.Learn more on www.BAMMoves.com and sign up for the newsletter so we can keep you updated >>

Mike Davies leads Business as Mission (BAM) Vancouver and is also involved in Youth with a Mission (YWAM). In this episode, he shares how he got involved with business leaders, why they started the first yearly BAM Vancouver conference in 2018, what has evolved since that time, and what BAM could look like in a Western context. Regarding his vision for the future, Mike says, “I don’t have particular goals; we take it a step at a time. I want to create the space for business folks to meet, because when people come together, things happen. It’s like facilitating dreams, letting God speak and showing what can be the answers to the needs of our world, and also of our city."Training Kingdom Mindsets for Business. Beginning September 2024, Gea and Bill will host another 10-week training. Through joy-filled, to-the-point, easy-to-follow online lessons attractively presented in video, audio, and text, you’ll gain profound insights into how to align with God in life, work, and business. Learn more on our site, www.BAMMoves.com and sign up for the newsletter so we can keep you updated >>

“God pulled the rug out from under me,” shares Grayson Bain. “He loved me more than all the things I was doing.” As the founder of bikes.com, this Canadian entrepreneur had his identity tied to the success of the company. In this podcast, he shares his journey of how God restored his identity. Also, what he learned through a company he started in close companionship with Kenyans: instead of ‘rescuing them’ and going at ‘white speed’, he saw the value of building community. Presently, he is advising business owners and has discovered the value of abiding in God. “The Holy Spirit is good at making money,” he smiles. God is deeply caring for my clients, and they sense that care. “All I have to do is sit down, listen, and remain in God, in the vine.” Reconcile Business Solutions > > About Justea >>  More on Grayson Bain >> https://www.graysonbain.com Training Kingdom Mindsets for Business. Beginning September 2024, Gea and Bill will host another 10-week training. Through joy-filled, to-the-point, easy-to-follow online lessons attractively presented in video, audio, and text, you’ll gain profound insights into how to align with God in life, work, and business.Learn more on our site, www.BAMMoves.com and sign up for the newsletter so we can keep you updated >>