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4d ago

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss both how family has influenced their career paths, how they talk about work with their families, and the importance of figuring out what the right amount of spillover is between work and family life. 00:00 Intro 01:40 How Kaila and Kyle talk about work with their families 07:28 The “spillover-crossover model” 13:19 The danger of co-rumination 15:42 How Kaila’s family influenced her career path 20:34 How Kyle’s family influenced his career path 25:12 Tactics This episode was sponsored by Industrious. Try out Industrious for yourself with a day pass OR a meeting room booking, now 50% off for Per My Last Email listeners. Visit industriousoffice.com/pmle to get your discount or free tour. Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 8

Is it possible for us to start to digitally “detox” while still leveling up at work? In this episode, Kaila and Kyle are joined by Kate Noel (host of the podcast People Person , and Morning Brew’s SVP of People Operations) to talk about how we can start to become less dependent on our screens, while still remaining diligent at our jobs. 00:00 Intro 02:53 Should we even be trying to digitally detox? 06:37 How Kate, as an HR leader, is approaching organizational boundary setting 10:55 How to cultivate a boundary-respecting culture within an organization 15:08 How to help cultivate a boundary-respecting culture as an individual contributor 17:27 A different way to think about “work-life balance” 22:12 Should we be on our phones when we’re not working? 27:15 “You don’t rise to the level of your willpower, you fall to the level of your systems.” 32:49 An important thing to consider if you’re feeling overwhelmed at work 34:12 Final tactics for setting better boundaries at work This episode was sponsored by Industrious. Try out Industrious for yourself with a day pass OR a meeting room booking, now 50% off for Per My Last Email listeners. Visit industriousoffice.com/pmle to get your discount or free tour. Check out People Person here: https://www.podpage.com/people-person/ Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 1

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle break down and debate the worst career advice they’ve ever heard, and what they think you should do instead. 00:00 Intro 02:45 Bad advice #1 09:28 Bad advice #2 16:28 Bad advice #3 23:30 Bad advice #4 27:50 Work rant This episode was sponsored by Industrious. Try out Industrious for yourself with a day pass OR a meeting room booking, now 50% off for Per My Last Email listeners. Visit industriousoffice.com/pmle to get your discount or free tour. Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 24

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle dig into “crisis culture” at work—what it is, how it came about, and what you can do about it if you’re experiencing it in your own workplace. 00:00 Intro 01:35 What is “workplace crisis culture”? 02:35 Why is this crisis culture happening? 09:49 How crisis culture has affected Kaila’s career 14:42 Kyle’s own experience with crisis culture 19:14 Another way to think about urgency 21:07 Tips and tactics for handling a workplace crisis culture This episode was sponsored by Superhuman. You can check out Superhuman today at superhuman.com/podcast . Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 17

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle sit down with journalist, media executive, entrepreneur, and NKA Media founder Nora Ali to talk about the realities of becoming your own boss. Nora gets extremely candid about what pursuing entrepreneurship really looks like in detailing her transition from the traditional 9 - 5 to founding her former startup Mason Media. 00:00 Intro 02:09 Nora’s career trajectory 05:15 Why Nora decided to pursue starting her own business when she did 09:09 The unexpected downsides of becoming your own boss 16:21 The physical toll being an entrepreneur took on Nora 18:12 How Nora navigated the transition from a creative career to having to handle the business side of her own business 24:53 On debating whether or not to re-join corporate America 27:06 Advice for people considering making the leap into entrepreneurship 29:02 The value of having a life or career “theme” 31:40 A final piece of advice for an aspiring entrepreneur This episode was sponsored by Superhuman. You can check out Superhuman today at superhuman.com/podcast . Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 10

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle give their strong and uninhibited opinions on some more spicy work-related AITA Redditor submissions. From refusing to cover for colleagues to reporting them to HR, this episode brings the drama. 00:00 Intro 02:23 Scenario #1 - The Credit Thief 09:35 Scenario # 2 - The Scrooge Boss 17:02 Scenario #3 - The Shady Firm 21:54 Scenario #4 - The Office Narc This episode was sponsored by Superhuman. You can check out Superhuman today at superhuman.com/podcast . Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 3

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the demise of the traditional corporate structure—from co-CEOs, to the elimination of middle managers, and even the death of workplace loyalty. It seems like everything we know about the way companies are organized are changing, so what does this mean for you? 00:00 Intro 01:43 What’s unique about this moment in time for workplaces 04:36 A possible explanation for why these company structures keep changing 07:46 The AT&T memo and how workplace loyalty has changed 13:18 So what comes next for corporate structures? 14:25 “The Dead Economy Theory” 17:08 The example of Zappos’ “holacracy” 22:38 What you can do to brace yourself in this evolving landscape This episode was sponsored by Superhuman. You can check out Superhuman today at superhuman.com/podcast . Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 27

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the pivotal life experiences that helped them in their careers in unexpected ways. Listen to hear Kaila and Kyle’s personal stories of rock-bottom moments and personal epiphanies that have ultimately made them better at their jobs. 00:00 Intro 03:13 Kyle’s biggest experience with failure 08:06 Kaila’s biggest experience with failure 11:54 The non-work things that have contributed to Kaila’s and Kyle’s careers 16:35 What Kyle learned from making his first podcast 19:28 An early epiphany in Kaila’s career 21:55 The international experience that changed Kaila’s perspective 27:40 What Kyle’s learned about cold-emailing people he admires This episode was sponsored by Udemy. Try a free 14-day trial at Udemy now at udemy.com/personal-plan and use code PMLE14. Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 20

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle break down “The Great Lock-In”—the Q4 period where it’s advantageous for your year-end review to focus and get down to business. Listen to hear Kaila and Kyle’s extremely tactical and actionable advice on how to accomplish the most before the end of the year. 00:00 Intro 02:01 What “The Great Lock-In” is about 07:17 The first phase of “locking in” 13:14 The second phase of lock-in 17:47 Bullet journaling 20:00 Timeboxing 23:42 Another important element of locking in This episode was sponsored by Udemy. Try a free 14-day trial at Udemy now at udemy.com/personal-plan and use code PMLE14. Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 13

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the rise of the “quiet promotion,” how to know whether or not you’re receiving one, and what to do if you have. 00:00 Intro 01:50 “job hugging” 07:42 Defining “quiet promotions” 10:12 Why quiet promotions are happening 13:40 Kaila’s experience with quiet promotions 15:28 Kyle on whether he’s been quiet promoted 17:41 What to do if YOU’RE being quiet promoted 29:29 Recap: The 3 steps to take if you’ve received a “quiet promotion” This episode was sponsored by Udemy. Try a free 14-day trial at Udemy now at udemy.com/personal-plan and use code PMLE14. Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 6

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle are responding to listener-submitted career advice questions…and they’re juicy! From how to handle conflicting feedback to wading through the “work fluff”, this episode is chock-full of useful tactics for handling tricky work situations. 00:00 Intro 01:25 Grab Bag Question #1 - communication issues 06:38 Grab Bag Question #2 - conflicting feedback 12:50 Grab Bag Question #3 - learning about different jobs 18:05 Grab Bag Question #4 - office decor 22:39 Grab Bag Question #5 - work fluff 25:26 Grab Bag Question #6 - “yes man” boss This episode was sponsored by Udemy. Try a free 14-day trial at Udemy now at udemy.com/personal-plan and use code PMLE14. Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 29

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle debate whether you should or should NOT pursue your office crush. That’s right—we’re talking office romance this week, and Kaila and Kyle hold strongly opposing positions on the matter, based in part on their own personal experiences. 00:00 Intro 02:57 Historical context for the conversation 04:23 Kaila’s opinion on pursuing a relationship in the workplace 08:19 The types of jobs where office romance becomes more likely 15:53 The most important thing to remember when considering a romantic relationship with a coworker 18:58 Power dynamics in coworker relationships 21:02 Disclosure 22:35 Never be the main character 26:28 Perception 28:19 Kaila’s 4 conditions for pursuing an office romance This episode was sponsored by Udemy. Try a free 14-day trial at Udemy now at udemy.com/personal-plan and use code PMLE14. Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 22

Is it cringe to try too hard? In this episode, Kaila and Kyle are joined by Normal Gossip co-creator and Defector Media co-owner Alex Sujong Laughlin to talk about the ins and outs of being a “try hard” at work. Alex’s new podcast, Try Hard , documents people attempting things that they’re afraid to do, and in this episode you’ll hear about a couple of moments when Alex and Kaila’s fear of being cringe nearly held back their career progress. 00:00 Intro 01:40 What is “Try Hard”? 05:29 Why being a “try hard” in the office is perceived as cringe right now 12:33 An experience that almost derailed Alex’s career path 17:18 How to gently encourage trying hard 21:33 What’s the right level of earnestness at work? 25:42 Is LinkedIn posting cringe? 28:09 A time where Kaila’s fear of being “cringe” almost held her back in her career This episode was sponsored by Udemy. Try a free 14-day trial at Udemy now at udemy.com/personal-plan and use code PMLE14. Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 15

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the current trend of laying off middle managers and the flattening of organizations, the impact this can have on individuals, and why we can’t forget the key roles that middle managers have in your career. 00:00 Intro 01:43 Who are the middle managers? 04:15 Stats illustrating the decline of the middle manager 06:40 How an absence middle managers can hinder your career 11:09 The goal of a middle manager, and what happens when they disappear 18:44 Why companies should realize the importance of a middle manager 23:45 What to do if you see a flattening of your organization This episode was sponsored by Udemy. Try a free 14-day trial at Udemy now at udemy.com/personal-plan and use code PMLE14. Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 8

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss how AI is impacting the job market, what the future of work may look as more roles and industries become automated, and how to stand out in the age of AI-assisted hiring processes. 00:00 Intro 01:41 Research on the impact of AI on job seekers 06:28 The rise of the “he-cession” 10:07 How AI is impacting the job hunt for mid-career level individuals 14:02 Strategies for applying to jobs in the current environment 19:20 Tips for once you finally reach the interview process 24:03 A major networking pro-tip, especially if you have a small network This episode was sponsored by Udemy. Try a free 14-day trial at Udemy now at udemy.com/personal-plan and use code PMLE14. Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 1

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the three most problematic toxic workplace scenarios, and how to manage each of them. Plus, wait ‘til the end to hear a bonus fourth toxic workplace scenario that you probably haven’t considered. 00:00 Intro 01:42 Defining “toxicity” in the workplace 04:14 Stats on toxic workplaces 05:43 Toxic coworkers and how to handle them 11:46 How Kaila handled a former toxic coworker 16:34 Toxic bosses and how to handle them 24:45 An important note on “toxic bosses” 25:59 Toxic workplace environments/companies, and how to handle them 32:19 When you find out that YOU’RE the toxic person This episode was sponsored by Gamma. Try Gamma now at https://gamma.app/pmle Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 25

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle get educated on the four most important qualities of leadership that separate the top 1% of executives from the rest. Cassie Young, General Partner at Primary Venture Partners, joins Kaila and Kyle this week to discuss why these are the most important (and underappreciated) leadership traits, and why it’s important to know them even if you’re not a leader yourself. 00:00 Intro 02:32 Cassie’s career trajectory 08:00 “Highly forgettable people” 09:39 A tip for when deciding on a job based on the manager 10:21 The value of P&L fluency 15:44 Cassie’s favorite hack for getting more fluent in profit and loss 16:52 “First Team” leadership 24:03 “Pulse on Macromarket” 29:08 The importance of “bat phone” relationships This episode was sponsored by Gamma. Try Gamma now at https://gamma.app/pmle Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 18

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle are discussing whether or not you can actually get wealthy in your 9 - 5 alone anymore. Is the American Dream dead, or just evolved? Listen to hear their takes on the best types of companies to work for if you want to build wealth without the side hustle. 00:00 Intro 01:40 How money has played a role in career motivation for Kaila 04:14 How money factored into Kyle’s career path 07:15 Stats on people’s perceptions of wealth 09:13 Where the traditional ideas about generating wealth are starting to break down 14:18 The different paths today towards building wealth 17:00 The pros and cons of getting equity in your company 25:20 Evaluating your own expectations 29:53 The value if having an “F U fund” This episode was sponsored by Gamma. Try Gamma now at https://gamma.app/pmle Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 11

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle are joined by Morning Brew Daily hosts Neal Freyman and Toby Howell to talk about a subject they know better than anyone—the reality of having a work bestie. Listen to hear Neal and Toby share the story of how they went from colleagues, to friends, to podcast co-hosts, and the unexpected benefits and potential drawbacks of having such a tight working relationship. 00:00 Intro 02:09 How Neal and Toby originally became friends 07:58 How being both friends and colleagues has affected their work 10:12 Developing the Morning Brew Daily show 13:31 On the period that Toby and Neal were together 24/7 16:14 Advice for someone unsure about cultivating a deep friendship at work 20:30 The difference between having work friends at a small company versus a larger one 23:00 Neal and Toby answer questions from their own Morning Brew Daily production team 29:41 Game: This episode was sponsored by Gamma. Try Gamma now at https://gamma.app/pmle Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 4

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss Kyle’s experience of paternity leave so far, what’s been the most surprising to him, and how he’s feeling about returning to his 9 to 5. 00:00 Intro 01:32 Stats on maternity vs. paternity leave in the U.S. 05:02 Research on the impact of taking paternity leave on a father’s brain 08:11 How pat leave has been for Kyle 13:53 Kyle’s feelings around returning to work 18:24 How boundaries shift after paternity leave 23:37 How Kaila’s thinking about parental leave 33:41 The systemic problem that lack of parental leave policy in the U.S. is creating This episode was sponsored by Gamma. Try Gamma now at https://gamma.app/partners/pmle Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 28

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle debate what they consider to be some non-obvious but very real truths about the nature of work and career. Plus, listen ‘til the end of the episode to hear Kaila’s bonus productivity hack. 00:00 Intro 00:26 “Per YOUR Last Email” segment 02:32 Non-Obvious Truth #1 05:30 The 3 “right” ways to be exploited at work 11:35 Non-Obvious Truth #2 19:33 Non-Obvious Truth #3 26:18 Bonus Productivity Hack of the Week Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 21

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss and debate the four types of jobs that they think everyone should have at least once in their career. Plus, listen ‘til the end to hear Kaila’s work fail of the week. 00:00 Intro 01:06 Job #1 06:21 Pros and cons of working for a name brand 10:54 Job #2 20:04 Job #3 23:44 Job #4 29:32 Sequencing your career trajectory 32:08 Kaila’s work fail of the week Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 14

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the ins and outs of office politics, what it REALLY is, and how to improve on your office politicking skills in order to advance your career. 00:00 Intro 03:09 The two buckets of office politics 07:48 Can you opt out of office politics? 10:24 Advice for groups who face more biases in the workplace 12:57 MIT study on promotions based on potential 15:07 Kaila and Kyle’s personal experience with office politics 20:34 Office politics for remote employees 23:02 Using meetings to build buy-in 26:41 Asking for a promotion 29:19 Game: How Would You Respond? Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 7

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the difference between extrinsic and intrinsic motivation, and how to artificially generate it when you find yourself lacking motivation. 00:00 Intro 00:51 Intrinsic motivation vs extrinsic motivation 03:08 Kyle’s intrinsic motivation vs Kaila’s extrinsic motivation 08:56 How Kaila hacks her motivation 14:52 Research-backed strategies for increasing motivation 19:24 Self-Determination Theory 21:50 Manufacturing competition 27:19 Two more tactics for hacking extrinsic motivation 32:52 Adam Grant’s study on radiologists Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 30

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle dive into some conversation-sparking Reddit “Am I the A******?” submissions, and give their candid opinions on each. From whether or not you should share details of your personal life with your coworkers, to the ethics of applying for the same job as a friend, Kaila and Kyle bring some strong opinions. 00:00 Intro 00:53 Scenario #1 - Retirement Gift 05:14 Scenario #2 - Applying for the Same Job as Your Friend 10:00 Scenario #3 - Keeping Personal Life Private at Work 18:25 Scenario #4 - Not Working Hard Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 23

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle talk about their biggest work fails, a different way to think about failure beyond simply as a “learning opportunity,” and share tactics on how to best move through and recover from failures in both work and career. 00:00 Intro 00:40 Kaila’s biggest work failure 04:20 Kyle’s biggest work failure 09:34 The problem with “I don’t fail, I either win or I learn.” 17:46 An NIH study on career failure among nurses 21:05 How to change your perception of “failure” 22:33 The importance of “getting ahead of it” 24:28 “post traumatic growth” 29:01 Tactics Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 16

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss what having high agency at work really means, the problems having high agency poses in certain contexts, and how to cultivate more of it in order to help your career. 00:00 Intro 01:20 Defining what having “high agency” is 06:52 The elements of high agency 10:34 An important point about having agency 14:17 An important element of truly effective high agency 15:03 A time when Kaila demonstrated high agency in her career 17:46 A time when Kyle demonstrated high agency in his career 21:32 A debate on the merits of disagreeableness 30:22 Research on the “internal locus of control” 31:43 Tactics for developing more agency Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 9

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the viral Steve Madden interview and debate whether CEOs and corporations should be expressing their political views, as well as how to navigate politics in the workplace. 00:00 Intro 01:24 Steve Madden’s viral Cutting Room Floor interview 06:26 Lulu Cheng Meservey on “going direct” as a business leader 07:29 Stats on how different generations feel about companies voicing their political beliefs 09:53 Ben & Jerry’s vs. Target 15:07 Brian Armstrong’s “mission-driven company” blog post 21:31 How should you as an employee react to your CEO’s public political statements? 27:23 Should you share your own political beliefs at work? 35:49 Kaila’s work rant Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 2

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle dive into the problems with being a “people pleaser”, and how to balance being agreeable enough while also being effective and impactful at work. Plus, Kaila introduces The Workplace People Pleasing Matrix. 00:00 Intro 00:44 Defining what “people pleasing” actually is 01:55 Why the term “people pleaser” is inflammatory 06:09 Stats on agreeableness and income 07:53 The Workplace People Pleasing Matrix 17:12 The importance of knowing when to be agreeable 19:28 The categories of people pleasers 28:38 Advice for getting into the Zone of Efficacy on the People Pleasing Matrix Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 26

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss work stress and whether we’ve been thinking about it in the wrong way. There’s clearly such a thing as too much stress, but what about too little? And is there an ideal amount of stress we should be aiming for in order to be most successful at our jobs? 00:00 Intro 00:24 APA stats on stress and anxiety 02:53 Kaila’s relationship with work-related stress 06:57 Stats on workplace mental health 09:58 The Eustress Curve and how to rethink our relationship with stress 13:26 Findings by Hans Selye, the “Father of Stress” 15:47 A tip for turning negative stress into productive stress 23:00 Investing in recovery 24:54 What works for Kyle when it comes to managing work stress 30:28 Bonus segment Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 19

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss common career tropes and debate whether or not the sayings hold up. Is HR really not your friend? Are your connections more important than your skills? Listen and find out. 00:00 Intro 00:36 Career myth #1 - “No one knows what they’re doing.” 07:35 Career myth #2 - “HR is not your friend.” 12:51 Career myth #3 - “It’s not WHAT you know, it’s WHO you know.” 19:11 Career myth #4 - “Follow your passion, and you’ll never work a day in your life.” 27:33 Career myth #5 - “You should do the responsibilities before you get the promotion.” Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 12

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle are joined by Yale professor and host of The Happiness Lab podcast, Dr. Laurie Santos, to talk about the small ways you can find more meaning in your job, and the adjustments that help increase our happiness and well being at work. 00:00 Intro 00:44 Dr. Laurie Santos Intro 01:47 How much does your work factor into your overall happiness? 03:33 Dr. Santos’ take on the difference between how millennials and how Gen Z approach work 07:50 “Job crafting” 09:33 Remote vs in-office 12:30 How office perks impact happiness 14:46 How we can alter our relationship with time to increase our happiness 18:09 How “job crafting” is different from toxic positivity 22:47 The “GI Joe Fallacy” 25:50 Advice for working parents 30:05 Dr. Laurie Santos’s personal happiness habits Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 5

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the problems with the current conversation around AI, and debate the issues with and the benefits of the technology for the workforce, society, and individuals. 00:00 Intro 00:57 The problem with the discourse around AI 05:42 Why we’re not having good faith arguments around AI 09:43 The three use cases for AI that Kaila found helpful 17:28 Kaila’s concerns with AI 21:00 How Kyle uses AI in a way that’s additive and not a complete replacement of thinking 28:12 AI concerns speed round Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 28

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle talk about the value of giving your job its own performance review, the most effective way to do it, and the lowest rated jobs from their own career experiences. Get your copy of the Rate Your Job Template here! 00:00 Intro 06:46 The Rate Your Job Template 13:38 Explaining the template through an example 15:55 How Kaila used the Rate Your Job Template when choosing her current job 19:00 Using the template to rate your existing job 21:45 Why rating your job is an important thing to do every 6 months 25:42 Kyle’s worst job 26:55 Kaila’s worst job Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 21

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle dive into what exactly constitutes a “side hustle”, and the circumstances in which it IS and ISN’T worth having one. Not all side hustles are created equal. 00:00 Intro 03:11 Average income earned from a side hustle 05:11 The issue with the term “side hustle” 08:00 The most common types of side hustles 14:45 “Acceptable or Not?” game 20:46 Considering how a side hustle might be perceived at your job 21:48 Pros and cons of having a side hustle Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 14

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle dive into tips and tactics on the best way to protect your job and prepare yourself for potential job cuts during a recession. 00:00 Intro 00:27 Listener email 03:19 What happens during a recession 06:24 What you can do to prepare yourself professionally if you are currently employed 09:10 “T-Shaped skills” 13:45 The importance of weak ties 19:09 Why you should consider posting on LinkedIn right now 21:06 Recession-proof industries 23:58 Recession-proof job functions 26:10 Increase your technological skills 30:00 Strategic side projects Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 7

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the reason why efficiency shouldn’t be the goal at work, and how to actually get better at your job. 00:00 Intro 00:41 Our obsession with efficiency 02:26 The problem with the conversation around AI 06:46 What you lose when you focus too much on efficiency 11:42 When Kaila over-focused on efficiency in her career 18:06 How to actually get better at your job 19:46 Scheduling time for whimsy 23:17 Tactics Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 31

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss how to have those difficult conversations at work with career advice expert Erin McGoff of @advicewitherin. From addressing your lazy coworker to handling your micromanaging boss, Kaila, Kyle, and Erin offer specific tactics and approaches for conducting these challenging conversations. 00:00 Intro 00:55 How Advice With Erin got started 03:49 Stats on how much people avoid having difficult conversations 04:34 How Erin recommends approaching difficult conversations broadly 08:25 How to prep for having a difficult conversation 14:34 Difficult conversation scenario 1 - Telling your boss that you’re quitting 19:25 Difficult conversation scenario 2 - How to address your anxious coworker 24:41 Difficult conversation scenario 3 - How to deal with a micromanaging boss 29:28 Difficult conversation scenario 4 - How to address a team member who isn’t pulling their weight Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 24

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle dig into the details of the Rippling v Deel corporate espionage lawsuit, and why—even if you aren’t a corporate spy yourself—it should matter to you. 00:00 Intro 00:51 Background 07:26 Our reaction to the Rippling v Deel case 12:36 Remembering what Slack really is 18:08 What kind of information is okay to take with you from a job, and what is not 20:11 Noncompete clauses 21:59 “garden leave” 22:41 Why a work nemesis is good Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 17

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle get philosophical and discuss the ethics of working for a company that doesn’t align with your values. Is it ever acceptable to work at a job that you perceive as immoral? And what can you do if you have to work at such a place? 00:00 Intro 05:30 Whether or it’s morally okay to work somewhere that goes against your values 09:08 Another important caveat when it comes to values aligning with your work 11:45 Effective altruism 16:08 How your role within an organization impacts the moral quandary 17:49 Stats on how important values at work are to people 24:43 Figuring out what values are most important to YOU 25:58 Game: Would you work for…? Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 10

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the difference between nepotism vs. networking in the workplace, and how to make nepotism work for you even when you don’t think you have the connections you need to secure an opportunity. 00:00 Intro 00:46 Defining a “nepo baby” 04:54 How common workplace nepotism actually is 09:03 When people are, and are not okay with workplace nepotism 12:52 Is nepotism different from networking? 18:22 How to make nepotism work for you 19:56 The power of weak ties 22:19 “Nepo or Not” game Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 3

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss whether or not millennial managers are too soft, the different styles of management, and how to navigate giving tough feedback. 00:00 Intro 02:29 How Kaila and Kyle define a “millennial manager” 07:49 The difference between a good millennial manager and a bad millennial manager 10:08 Previous generations vs millennials in terms of management styles 15:08 “Primal Leadership” and the styles of management 20:55 What to do if you have a millennial manager 24:27 Advice on receiving feedback 26:26 Different types of feedback you can give 28:20 West Point teachers study Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Feb 24

We’ve done it again—this week Kaila and Kyle read and respond to your “am I the a**hole?” submissions around your work-specific situations…and they do not hold back. 00:00 Intro 01:02 AITA scenario 1 | vengeful quitter 05:37 AITA scenario 2 | “friend” exploitation 09:57 AITA scenario 3 | senior exec’s personal tragedy 14:44 AITA scenario 4 | Reddit submission Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Feb 17

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the recent headlines around DEI, the potential implications of these measures, and what actually makes the most effective teams. 00:00 Intro 00:43 Recent headlines around DEI 06:05 Listener email 12:04 Stats around DEI from Morning Brew’s Insights and Analytics team 16:34 Why having a diverse workforce helps your business outcomes 20:04 An example of DEI efforts in the workplace 22:05 What are the the things that make for a truly high performing team? 24:49 Culture fit vs culture add 26:18 The importance of psychological safety 28:25 Google’s study on what makes strong teams Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Feb 10

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle are joined by Hannah Williams, founder and host of @SalaryTransparentStreet , to talk about the importance of salary transparency, why it’s still such an uncomfortable thing to talk about, and how to negotiate for a higher salary. 00:00 Intro 00:45 Hannah Williams and Salary Transparent Street 01:24 When Hannah first realized she was being underpaid 07:51 The experience of filming Salary Transparent Street 11:06 Why it’s so important to consider being transparent about your salary 15:44 Why HR professionals are in favor of salary transparency 17:41 Negotiation tactics 19:41 On leveraging an outside offer to increase your salary 24:00 Salary guessing game Salary Transparent Street’s Salary Database: https://www.salarytransparentstreet.com/salary-database Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Feb 3

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the pros and cons of taking an “adult gap year” (aka sabbatical or “mini-retirement”), why they’re becoming more common, and how to financially plan for one if you want to take one yourself. 00:00 Intro 01:56 Stats on burnout 05:54 Defining “sabbatical” vs “leave of absence” vs “gap year” or “mini retirement” 08:48 Companies providing sabbatical options 15:01 What Kyle and Kaila would do with a 4-week sabbatical 18:36 Harvard Business Review’s study on sabbaticals 20:56 Can you take a break without hurting your career? 22:16 How to take a break if you don’t necessarily have the financial means to 26:39 Tactics Harvard Business Review’s article on sabbaticals. Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 27

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss some of the recent news surrounding Meta—from their announcement of cutting 5% of their workforce, to Mark Zuckerberg’s recent comments on masculinity in the workplace. 00:00 Intro 00:51 Meta’s recent announcement around firing practices 04:25 Two potential upsides to Meta’s “rank and yank” system 07:07 Issues with stack ranking systems 13:39 What is the ideal performance incentive at work? 17:29 How certain incentives cause “creaming” 20:09 What’s going on with managers? 22:53 Mark Zuckerberg on Joe Rogan clip 32:12 What we can takeaway from Meta’s new policies Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 20

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss when and how to make a career pivot, and the questions to ask yourself before starting. 00:00 Intro 01:19 Listener career pivot story submission 05:06 Kaila’s biggest career pivot 07:55 A crucial consideration before making a career change 08:21 Kyle’s career pivots 12:13 The importance of finding what you actually enjoy doing 15:54 A common mistake with networking 20:25 Knowing career narrative 23:12 Embracing the beginner’s mindset 24:13 Listener submissions Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 13

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the rise of revenge quitting, what it is, why it’s seemingly on the rise, and their takes on its effectiveness. 00:00 Intro 01:43 Defining what “revenge quitting” is 04:05 Why 2025 will be the year of revenge quitting 09:30 Why the year of revenge quitting might actually be something else 10:37 Why Kaila loves the idea of revenge quitting 16:35 The truth about revenge quitting 17:28 How Kaila and Kyle have quit jobs in their career 22:51 The importance of exhausting your options 26:32 A Reddit story of revenge quitting 27:57 Tactics Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 6

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the real strategies and steps involved in getting a promotion, from how and when to have the conversation with your boss, to how to get clear for yourself what you really want in the next stage of your career. 00:00 Intro 00:36 Kaila and Kyle’s first promotions 05:38 Kaila and Kyle’s 2025 career goals 07:12 The number one thing you should be doing to set yourself up for success 17:12 More tips for how to get promoted in 2025 19:29 How Kaila and Kyle became directors 23:04 The importance of checking in with your manager frequently Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 30, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle are joined by Morning Brew’s SVP of People Operations Kate Noel to talk about how to make the most of your year-end performance review—from how to prepare for it to what to expect from it—and what most people forget about this formal evaluation process. 00:00 Intro 00:57 How Morning Brew Inc. handles performance reviews 05:53 The pros and cons of performance reviews 10:18 Advice for one-on-ones 13:48 How to make the most of your performance review 17:56 Talking merit increases 21:10 How biases play out in performance reviews 28:28 What should you do if you don’t get that promotion you were hoping for? Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 23, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the companies in the UK and in Japan that have been experimenting with the 4-day work week, what the outcomes have been, and whether or not we can expect to see it implemented in the US. Does the 4-day work week actually solve anything? Is it beneficial or detrimental to society as a whole? 00:00 Intro 01:41 The New York Times report on UK businesses piloting the 4-day workweek 06:46 When a 4-day workweek isn’t a fix 11:29 The Tokyo case study of the 4-day workweek 17:49 Reimagining our current work standards and systems 21:56 What can we do based on the 4-day work week research 26:51 A little holiday surprise Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 16, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the topic of employee surveillance, including the recent invasion of privacy lawsuit against Apple, and how it impacts company culture. Do companies have the right to monitor employee behavior? Is employee surveillance the new normal? And what can employees do to fight back? 00:00 Intro 00:28 Apple lawsuit 05:31 Stats from the ABA on employee surveillance in the US 08:10 Is surveilling employees ethical? 17:19 What it means to “look like you’re working” 23:06 How to make your job less “fuzzy” 24:20 Tactics Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 9, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle talk about how to decide whether it’s worth moving for your career, and how they’ve made decisions to move in their own lives. Is it always worth uprooting yourself for your career? And are there particular places that it’s more advantageous to live in than others? 00:00 Intro 01:22 Malcolm Gladwell quote 05:03 What went into Kyle’s decision to move to New York 08:38 A research-backed argument for relocating 13:18 Why location is so important to consider when moving for a job 17:30 Why Kaila moved to New York 22:15 “Digital Nomads” 26:14 Cities that are trying to attract new remote workers as residents Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 2, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle are joined by career advice expert and content creator Hanna Goefft ( @hannagetshired ) to discuss the pros and cons of job hopping, how it looks to potential employers, and at what stages of your career it can positively or negatively impact your trajectory. 00:00 Intro 01:30 How we’re defining “job hopping” 03:05 Stats on millennial job hopping 04:32 A case against job hopping 07:27 How recruiters view job hopping on a resume 10:38 How to explain layoffs on your resume 15:10 Hanna’s job hopping history 19:59 When job hopping is viewed more negatively 22:25 How careers are evaluated differently depending on your seniority 28:31 The under-appreciated benefit of staying at one company Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 25, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle dive into Allstate’s innovative new hybrid work plan for their 54,000 employees across the country, and discuss the pros and cons of the plan, how it might play out in real time, and whether or not this is the future of work. 00:00 Intro 01:11 Allstate’s new hybrid work plan 08:51 How Allstate’s hybrid work model might change the culture of work entirely 15:54 Are community managers the future of hybrid work? 18:56 How Allstate is handling onboarding 21:33 Why Allstate’s model is so brilliant 26:34 Does Allstate’s model translate to companies of different sizes? Articles referenced in this episode: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-18/allstate-thinks-outside-the-cubicle-with-flexible-offices-coworking?srnd=work-shift https://www.hr-brew.com/stories/2024/04/10/allstate-workplace-futurist-lauren-deyoung Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 18, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the wave of big companies (Meta,Target, Fidelity, EY, to name a few) that have made headlines recently for firing employees over small offenses. Are these companies becoming stricter, or are these just layoffs in disguise? And is this a brilliant or a detrimental strategy? 00:00 Intro 01:58 Recent headlines about firings over small offenses 09:02 What we’re calling “sneaky layoffs” 11:29 On severance 16:51 Kyle’s hot take 21:39 Why it would be better for companies to do traditional layoffs 25:23 What can you do about sneaky layoffs? Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 11, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle talk about how to handle major, distracting life events at work. From wedding planning, to having a baby, to serious illness or injury—major life events happen to all of us. So what’s the best way to handle this without jeopardizing your career? 00:00 Intro 02:43 How Kaila handled planning her wedding while working 07:27 Kyle’s big announcement 10:03 Expectation setting 14:31 Why it might be worth disclosing a negative life event with coworkers 20:05 How Kyle approached telling his colleagues his big life news Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 4, 2024

This week we’re bringing you another AITA-style episode (since we had so much fun doing it the first time). Listen to hear Kaila and Kyle read and weigh in on your “am I the a**hole?” submissions around your work-specific scenarios. 00:00 Intro 01:00 Scenario #1 - Dishonest Interview 04:11 Scenario #2 - Tattle Tale 10:31 Scenario #3 - Work Bestie Desserted Me 16:03 Scenario #4 - Boss Is Back From Paternity Leave Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 28, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle dig into the real meaning of “Founder Mode” (made famous by Brian Chesky and Paul Graham), and whether or not it’s a good thing. Is it just a rebrand of micromanagement? Then, Kaila and Kyle debate whether or not micromanagement can ever be a good thing. 00:00 Intro 00:35 A brief explanation of “Founder Mode” 04:45 Talking micromanagement 06:43 The instances where being a micromanager is okay 09:49 The Delegation Ladder 14:57 The three buckets of micromanagement 18:50 What to do when you’re being micromanaged 23:30 Morning Brew’s founder on Founder Mode Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 21, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle dive into the implications of going sober in your career with special guest Andrew Yeung, founder and CEO of Fibe. Can you still network and attend work happy hours when you’ve quit alcohol? What does it mean for climbing the ladder? 00:00 Intro 01:05 What prompted Andrew’s sobriety 05:40 What you miss out on when abstaining from alcohol 10:10 On having to explain your sobriety 15:36 How quitting alcohol impacted Andrew’s lifestyle 18:28 How getting sober impacted Andrew’s business 21:08 How alcohol has impacted Kaila and Kyle’s careers 24:26 Tactics for the sober curious Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 15, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle are joined by special guest (and Morning Brew social media star) Macy Gilliam to discuss whether Gen Z gets an unfair reputation at work, and address questions like: Does Gen Z overshare? Do they lack respect for office etiquette? Does Gen Z care less, or MORE about money than other generations? 00:00 Intro 02:38 Gen Z stereotype #1 08:40 Resume Builder stat 09:26 Gen Z stereotype #2 16:18 Gen Z stereotype #3 20:28 Gen Z stereotype #4 26:04 Gen Z stereotype #5 31:36 Advice for working with Gen Z Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 7, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle dig into occupational personality tests—from the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator, to the science-backed Big Five—and debate their legitimacy, when they might be useful in the workplace, and whether or not they should be used at all. 00:00 Intro 01:00 Myers-Briggs (MBTI) 03:57 Criticism of the Myers-Briggs 07:28 The CliftonStrengths Assessment 18:11 The Big Five Personality Test (OCEAN) 25:19 A big critique of personality tests 27:29 Tactics New York Times article cited in the episode: Personality Tests Are the Astrology of the Office Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 30, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle tackle the age-old question of: how hard do you have to work to get ahead? Do you ACTUALLY have to put in overtime, or can you have a healthy “work-life balance”? 00:00 Intro 02:54 Stats on workplace boundaries 05:08 Defining what a workplace “boundary” is 06:10 The 60% Rule 08:55 Three things to keep in mind when adopting the 60% rule 16:30 Decoupling number of hours work from impact 18:19 The Eisenhower Matrix 23:27 The “three seasons of work” 29:15 Tactics for developing work-life balance that works for you Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 23, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle debate whether Amazon’s decision to mandate a 5 day in office policy for all employees is a smart move for the tech giant or just a cover for possible impending layoffs. Amazon CEO letter cited: Message from CEO Andy Jassy: Strengthening our culture and teams Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 16, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle dive into the unspoken rules around Slack, Teams, and email. What is proper etiquette when it comes to professional communication these days? When is email actually necessary in a Slack-driven workplace environment? Plus, award-winning journalist and communication expert Celeste Headlee weighs in on what she thinks the new rules of workplace communication should be. 00:00 Intro 04:30 The issues with instant messaging 10:32 Have Slack and Teams hurt workplace communications? 15:12 How Slack affects workplace culture after a layoff 18:24 Tactics for Slack (or any workplace IM platform) 20:21 How to think about email when your company has Slack or Teams 26:28 An argument for the email before the meeting 31:42 Tactics for in-person communication Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 9, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the different styles of mentorship, how to find and secure a career mentor, and why mentorship benefits the mentor as well as the mentee. 00:00 Open 00:19 Intro 03:44 Can a boss be a mentor? 05:14 Defining mentorship 06:03 “Mentorship from afar” 11:00 How to get to an informal mentorship 15:00 Kyle’s advice for how to approach cold-emailing a potential mentor 19:03 The benefits of being a mentor 23:35 Mentorship vs sponsorship 28:27 Tactics Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s resources? Subscribe: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 3, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the realities and misconceptions around imposter syndrome, why Kyle has never experienced it, and Kaila’s take on when imposter syndrome becomes a humble brag. 00:00 Open 00:22 Intro 01:07 Defining imposter syndrome 07:13 Stats on the prevalence of imposter syndrome 07:32 Why Kyle has never experienced imposter syndrome 12:35 Kaila’s experience with imposter syndrome 20:43 The people who are actually imposters 22:46 How Kaila overcame feeling like an imposter 26:27 Advice for listeners Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s resources? Subscribe: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 26, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the actual importance of your first 90 days at a new job, what most people get wrong in the first 90 days, and the best tactics for approaching your early days at a new job. 00:00 Open 00:36 Intro 01:36 Kaila and Kyle’s chaotic first 90 days at Morning Brew 06:02 Why the first 90 days are so important at a new job 10:35 Why the first 90 days for managers bringing on a new employee are so important 18:17 Stats on the reasons people leave a job within the first 90 days 23:11 Harvard Business Review’s 5 recommended steps in the first 90 days of a new job 28:19 Tactics Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s resources? Subscribe: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 19, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss whether or not you need to map your career, and what “career mapping” or career planning actually looks like when done effectively. 00:00 Open 00:25 Intro 05:05 How Kaila did a form of “career mapping” early in her career 06:50 What is a productive “career plan”? 13:30 The importance of having a North Star 19:00 How to decide between commitment and optionality 27:01 Tactics Morning Brew’s Career Mapping Toolkit: https://shop.morningbrew.com/products/career-mapping Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s resources? Subscribe: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 12, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle dive deep into the ways that the interview process is fundamentally flawed, and share tactics for how to succeed as both an interviewee as well as interviewer. 00:00 Open 00:35 Intro 03:30 Interview stats 10:01 A great interview mindset 12:09 What most job descriptions get wrong 14:17 Easy wins for going into the interview process 17:05 What employers should have prepared for an interview 21:11 Culture fit vs culture add 24:48 Game: good interview question or bad interview question 31:01 Tactics Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s resources? Subscribe: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 5, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the real meaning of burnout, when and why it happens, and what to do about it if you find yourself stuck in a cycle of burnout. 00:00 Open 00:24 Intro 06:00 What “burnout” really means 08:25 Stats on burnout 11:00 Misconceptions about burnout 16:35 Why burnout is an environmental problem 26:41 Tactics for handling burnout Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s resources? Subscribe: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 29, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the best way to handle different versions of bad managers, and how to evaluate whether you need to manage up, or if it’s you who should be doing something different. 00:00 Open 00:29 Intro 02:10 Why the quality of your boss matters (stats) 05:12 What having a “toxic” boss actually means 10:24 How the quality of your boss impacts your career trajectory 13:55 Bad Boss Scenario #1 17:02 Bad Boss Scenario #2 20:39 Bad Boss Scenario #3 23:22 Bad Boss Scenario #4 25:50 Tactics Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s resources? Subscribe: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 22, 2024

In this AITA-style episode, Kaila and Kyle read and weigh in on listener submissions asking “am I the a**hole?” in specific workplace situations. 00:00 Open 00:15 Intro 02:22 Scenario 1 06:14 Scenario 2 11:54 Scenario 3 16:58 Scenario 4 Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s resources? Subscribe: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 15, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle dig into the history of work attire, and what clothing is considered “professional” or “appropriate” for work in 2024. 00:00 Open 00:26 Intro 02:38 How Kaila’s dressing for work mentality has changed 06:25 How Kyle’s mentality around dressing for work has changed 08:22 How the perception of “work professional clothing” has changed since the pandemic 12:38 Stats on how people dress for work now 14:03 Considering the reasons that work attire even “matters” 18:01 Studies on perceptions of how you dress in the workplace 21:21 Professional or Nah game 24:00 Stats form the WSJ on what is acceptable men’s attire 26:16 Tactics Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s resources? Subscribe: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 8, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle break down what it is to be a “generalist” (aka a jack of all trades) or a “specialist” in your career, the pros and cons of each, and whether one is truly more advantageous than the other. 00:00 Open 00:32 Intro 01:34 Kaila and Kyle’s career concerns as a career “generalist” 03:18 Defining a “Generalist” and a “Specialist” 08:40 The pros and cons of being a generalist or a specialist 11:19 Kyle’s “connecting the dots” framework 16:19 The unique place where specialists succeed 21:23 “Wicked” and “Kind” environments 22:18 The wrong way to approach being a generalist 27:18 How the generalist approach can apply to building teams 29:24 Tactics Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s resources? Subscribe: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 1, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the merits of getting an MBA, and whether or not it’s even worth it anymore in today’s job market. 00:00 Open 00:19 Intro 03:56 History of MBA programs 05:00 MBA program stats 09:19 Why an MBA is looking like a less promising option lately 11:23 Scott Galloway’s take on MBA programs 12:49 What you’re actually getting when you enroll in an MBA program 17:00 What holds Kaila back from applying for an MBA program 23:43 The worst reason to pursue an MBA 29:31 What to do if you’re unsure about pursuing an MBA 33:31 Advice for listeners when considering an MBA Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s resources? Subscribe: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 24, 2024

In this episode Kaila and Kyle are joined by Morning Brew’s SVP Head of People Operations, Kate Noel, to discuss the matter of taking vacation at work—how much paid time off is too much? Is there a minimum amount of PTO you should be taking per year? Is unlimited vacation a great perk or a scam? 00:00 Open 00:22 Intro 03:46 Stats on Americans use of PTO 05:47 How Kate Noel thought through creating Morning Brew’s vacation policy 07:03 How unlimited PTO can be a scam 13:00 Why the culture around a PTO policy is important 20:00 Reframing time off for subscribers to “hustle culture” 22:13 More Harris Poll stats on employee behavior 27:11 Common misconceptions about HR 30:26 Tactics The Harris Poll Thought Leadership Practice Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s resources? Subscribe: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 17, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss what it means to be an introvert vs an extrovert at work, and how to succeed as an introvert in an extrovert’s world. 00:00 Open 00:37 Intro 02:33 What it really means to be an introvert 09:48 Statistics on how the workplace favors extroverts 14:14 How Kyle navigates public speaking as an introvert 17:41 How extroverts and introverts process differently 18:55 The best types of leaders for the best types of personality types 21:13 The idea of the “Personal User Guide” 22:09 Amazon’s thoughtful approach to meetings 26:44 A tactic for extroverts 28:33 A tactic for introverts 29:57 Kyle’s advice for employees and employers Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s resources? Subscribe: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 10, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the pros and cons of becoming a manager, and why even those who are worried about taking this next step in their career should consider it seriously. 00:00 Open 00:28 Intro 03:39 Why it’s important to take becoming a manager seriously 08:15 Why becoming a manager is the only way to grow in your career 16:17 Kyle’s hot take on managers vs ICs 20:36 Advice for people debating whether they’re ready to become a manager 24:07 How to test drive being a manager, and other tactics Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s resources? Subscribe: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 3, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle debate the merits of networking, and the do’s and don'ts when it comes to expanding your professional network. 00:00 Open 00:23 Intro 02:25 Networking stats 08:12 When networking is the most vital in your career 11:52 The power of weak ties 17:01 Ways to network that aren’t networking events 22:22 How Kaila networked early in her career 26:32 The importance of adding value 28:18 Other tactics and do’s and don’ts of networking Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s resources? Subscribe: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 28, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle explore the extent to which you need to go above and beyond in order to get that promotion, and the red flags to look out for to determine whether or not you employer is simply taking advantage of your hard work. 00:00 Open 00:26 Intro 06:48 How we got to hustle culture in the US 10:38 The problem with purpose-driven work culture 12:16 What “Quiet Quitting” really means 17:21 What comes first, the promotion or the responsibilities? 21:29 Kyle’s red flags to look out for with your employer 29:31 Tactics Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s resources? Subscribe: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 20, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss how to know whether it's time to leave your job, and if it is, how to quit gracefully (i.e. not burn bridges). 00:00 Open 00:39 Intro 03:49 Stats on employment opportunities and job satisfaction 08:03 The cost of employee turnover to employers 14:49 What you should do before you decide to quit 19:36 The dos and don’ts of negotiating a job offer with your current company 25:58 Tactics for those considering leaving their job Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s resources? Subscribe: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 13, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the pros and cons of having friends at work, as well as some tips on how to make them if you’re struggling. 00:00 Open 00:42 Intro 03:16 How Kaila and Kyle became friends 05:08 Stats on loneliness 08:54 Kaila’s “making friends at work” chart 11:27 When friends at work can be complicated 18:13 Kaila’s strategy for making friends at work 23:53 Remembering that friendship is a 2-way street 27:02 Another downside of having friends at work Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s resources? Subscribe: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 6, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle debate the merits of posting on LinkedIn, and whether or not it can help bolster your career. Is it actually useful, or just plain cringe? 00:00 Open 00:19 Intro 03:20 LinkedIn and personal brand stats 07:28 Why Kaila isn’t the biggest fan of LinkedIn 08:54 Why Kyle is pro LinkedIn 13:31 An under-appreciated benefit of posting on LinkedIn 17:36 Why Kyle believes every possible role could benefit from posting on LinkedIn 20:38 Kyle’s tactics for posting on LinkedIn 23:35 Kaila’s tips on how to start posting on LinkedIn if you’re afraid of the cringe factor Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s resources? Subscribe: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 29, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss why the hybrid work model can be bad for your career, and share tactics on how to overcome some of the drawbacks that come with working remotely. 00:00 Open 00:28 Intro 02:41 Stats on remote, hybrid, and on-site employees 04:05 What Kaila gained from starting her career on-site 07:54 Downsides of the WFH setup 15:31 How hybrid work impacted Kaila’s career 26:43 Tactics for excelling in a hybrid work environment Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s resources? Subscribe: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 22, 2024

In this episode, Kaila and Kyle debate to what extent the average person ACTUALLY has to worry about AI replacing them in the workforce, and the best way to prepare yourself professionally as this technology evolves. 00:00 Open 00:28 Intro 04:19 What the IMF and other outlets are saying about AI and the workforce 05:29 Why Kaila doesn’t care about AI 07:10 Kaila’s search engine analogy for AI 09:55 Why Kyle thinks you should care about AI right now 15:41 Kaila’s experience with AI misuse 19:35 Kyle’s tactics for approaching AI Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s resources? Subscribe: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 15, 2024

In this episode, hosts Kaila Lopez and Kyle Hagge discuss when, why, and HOW to ask your coworkers how much they make. Because it’s not just an interesting tidbit, but it could have an immense impact on your career. 00:00:00 Open 00:00:28 Intro 00:00:54 Kyle and Kaila discuss first job salaries 00:03:12 General attitudes towards discussing money at work 00:07:27 What happens when companies publicly share salary bands 00:09:12 How to approach asking a coworker to share their salary 00:12:32 What to expect when you ask your coworker to share their salary 00:16:53 Kyle and Kaila’s own experience with pay inequity 00:20:44 Tactics for approaching salary transparency with your coworkers Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s resources? Subscribe: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email TikTok: @permylastemailshow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 8, 2024

Is it okay to ask your coworker how much they make? Is Gen Z set up for failure in the workplace? Should you really bring your whole self to work? Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew's resident career experts Kaila and Kyle—whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit, and startup sectors—debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. New episodes drop every Monday! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices