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Kirk Dewindt & Brakken Kraker·622 episodes

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Two endurance athletes and coaches sit down to talk all things running! We bring you high level running knowledge and present it at a practical level.

Episodes

1 hr
May 30, 2026Episode 625
Training Tuesday: Our Coaching Journey

Brakken recorded an episode on Rich Ryan’s RMR Podcast this week (go check it out!) and it prompted him to ask Kirk some questions about how his coaching started and evolved over time.

1 hr 14 min
May 28, 2026Episode 624
DJ Fox

DJ joined us 300 episodes ago after winning World’s Toughest Mudder. Fast forward 3 years and he just crossed the finish line of the Cocodona 250 in third place. From OCR athlete to big time Ultra runner, he has embodied the idea of staying the course.

56 min
May 24, 2026Episode 623
Drug Use Among Amateurs

With the rise of hormone therapy and anti-aging medical practices, how should amateur athletes be thinking about drug use?

1 hr 1 min
May 20, 2026Episode 622
Training Tuesday: Superior Trail 50k Recap & Learnings

Fresh off his win at the Superior Trail 50k, Kirk gives us his recap, takeaways, and learnings from the race.

1 hr 6 min
May 16, 2026Episode 621
Superior 50k Preview!

It’s race week! Time to break down gear choice, fueling strategy, and pacing plan. Plus a few bonus listener questions thrown in there!

1 hr 31 min
May 14, 2026Episode 620
Training Tuesday: Hyrox with Lizzie May

Lizzie May has transformed her fitness and performance over recent years and now helps others do the same. Lizzie shares her learnings through personal experience & we also collab on a mini Hyrox Q & A! Topics covered:  - What works (and doesn't) for physical transformation  - Hyrox training and the lessons learned along the way  - Going from a beginner herself to a coach in the Hyrox space.  - Fueling in relation to performance  - Listener submitted Hyrox Q & A

1 hr 4 min
May 9, 2026Episode 619
Q&A Session

How useful is RPE for runners? Heat Training for hot races Hyrox training vs Ultra training Super shoes for downhill work? Running robots

1 hr 4 min
May 7, 2026Episode 618
Training Tuesday: Should You Ignore Heart Rate During Trail Races?

Should you let your HR spike during trail ultras or should you double down on a set HR limit? The boys can’t agree on this one!

1 hr 16 min
May 2, 2026Episode 617
Natalie Hatch

Natalie is the ultimate Beginner Runner. She found running as a way to cope with her anxiety and is currently training towards her first half marathon. Along the way, her personality and outlook on running and life have been captivating for others to witness.

1 hr
Apr 30, 2026Episode 616
Training Tuesday: Why Has Running Become So Dang Fast??

National and World Records are being set left and right and we just witnessed the fastest marathon in history. What is happening?!?

1 hr 19 min
Apr 25, 2026Episode 615
Hans Troyer

We first spoke to Hans in January 2024, days after his Ultra debut. Two years later, he’s arguably the fastest rising star in the sport. He recently won the JFK 50, won the Black Canyon 100k and signed a multi year deal with Hoka.

1 hr 5 min
Apr 23, 2026Episode 614
Training Tuesday: Overuse Injuries & Lower Body Strengthening with Dr Patrick

Dr Patrick Bottenfield stops by to discuss when it’s time to address an overuse injury as well as his top lower body strengthening movements for runners.

1 hr 8 min
Apr 16, 2026Episode 613
Training Tuesday: Fueling for Ultras

What exactly is considered “high carb fueling”? How much water do you need? Should you use liquid or solid calories? Where and how do you even begin to formulate a fueling plan for long races?

54 min
Apr 11, 2026Episode 612
Talkin’ Shop!

The boys are reunited so it’s time to catch up with some training talk!

1 hr 2 min
Apr 9, 2026Episode 611
Training Tuesday: Kirk’s Q&A Session

Brakken is on vacation so Kirk is doing what he loves most: cleaning out the listener questions from his inbox!

1 hr 8 min
Apr 1, 2026Episode 610
Jake Prusha

A Coast Guard veteran, medic, and hybrid athlete, Jake is running 10 miles per day for the next 50 days while raising funds for mental health.

35 min
Mar 28, 2026Episode 609
Answering AI Questions

We send Brakken off on his trip to Poland with a light hearted episode: answering questions from a random generator but doing so with a running twist.

59 min
Mar 26, 2026Episode 608
Training Tuesday: Race Prep Workouts

While we’re not always big fans of Race Simulator or Race Predictor workouts, we are definitely big fans of Race Prep workouts. Here’s how and when to implement this type of session!

1 hr 9 min
Mar 21, 2026Episode 607
Our 600th Episode!

We are celebrating our 600th episode the best way we know: doing a Q&A, taking way too long with each answer and thus failing to get through the entire queue!

1 hr 5 min
Mar 19, 2026Episode 606
Training Tuesday: “X Factor” Workouts

These aren’t workouts you could build your entire training around. These are the workouts that round out your mental and physical fitness.

1 hr 6 min
Mar 14, 2026Episode 605
Our Best & Worst Race Decisions

Today we discuss the best and worst race choices we’ve ever made when it comes to fuel, shoes, gear, and mid-race decisions

1 hr 3 min
Mar 12, 2026Episode 604
Training Tuesday: Talking Training!

Today is a good ole fashioned training chat! We cover what we’re doing in our own training, some trends with the athletes we work with, some race updates, and plenty of miscellaneous rabbit holes.

1 hr 13 min
Mar 7, 2026Episode 603
Aaron Telitz

A professional driver for Lexus, Aaron joins us to talk fitness, training, mental toughness, and doing whatever it takes to pursue your goal.

1 hr 16 min
Mar 5, 2026Episode 602
Zach Cygan

Zach recently won the Phoenix Hyrox Open division, running an impressive 56:39. And he did it weighing in at 110 lbs. In a sport where frame, mass, and long levers truly matter, how has he been able to achieve this level of success?

1 hr 11 min
Feb 28, 2026Episode 601
Take2Trail (Jes Parker)

Take2Trail is built by and for runners who believe gear should keep moving long after we’re done with it. They give your like-new and gently used trail running gear a chance to see another mile. No flaky buyers. No sketchy meetups. Just a smarter, smoother way to keep quality gear in circulation — and out of the landfill. Used doesn't mean useless.

55 min
Feb 26, 2026Episode 600
Training Tuesday: How to Properly Use Your GPS Watch

We are joined by Sam Konowitch, a software engineer contracting for Space Force, to learn every single detail we could ever need to know about fully utilizing the capabilities of our GPS watches. From extending battery life to maximizing route accuracy in every location imaginable, this is the episode to nerd out on all things run tracking!

1 hr 16 min
Feb 21, 2026Episode 599
Wrapping Up the Listener Questions

We fully intended to just rapid fire the remaining questions and then hit our real topic. An hour later we were still deep diving into the Q&A topics!

1 hr 7 min
Feb 19, 2026Episode 598
Training Tuesday: Q&A Part 2

We pick up with your remaining questions from last week! Highlights include Heat Training, Hamstring Strengthening, Super Shoes for “Slow” Runners, and Compromised Running.

1 hr 14 min
Feb 14, 2026Episode 597
Cody Taylor

When COVID effectively ended his music career, Cody reinvented himself as a an endurance athlete. From running across the Atacama Desert to setting an FKT on the Bruce Trail in the wilderness of Canada, he’s been searching for his limit and hasn’t found it yet.

1 hr 2 min
Feb 12, 2026Episode 596
Training Tuesday: Q&A!

You’ve sent some great questions this month! Highlights include: What’s holding you back, efficiency or engine?  What supplements should you be trying? Uphill efficiency vs flat speed efficiency. What should you do if your HR is too high even when jogging slow?

1 hr 14 min
Feb 7, 2026Episode 595
Soft Tissue Rehab with Dr Jared

Jared Francisca PT, DPT, joins us to talk specific processes for rehabbing common running related soft tissue injuries (tendinitis, tendinopathy, strains, tears).

1 hr 1 min
Feb 5, 2026Episode 594
Training Tuesday: How Important is Strength Training?

Kirk takes one side and Brakken takes the other while they debate the overall importance of Strength Training for a distance runner.

1 hr 2 min
Jan 31, 2026Episode 593
Brakken v Kirk Lifetime Race Results

With both boys scheduled to toe the same start line in May, this marks their first time racing each other since 2021! Today they break down their lifetime head to head match ups and predict how this one will go.

58 min
Jan 29, 2026Episode 592
Training Tuesday: How Important Are Long Runs?

Kirk takes one side and Brakken takes the other while they debate the overall importance of Long Runs in a training plan.

1 hr 24 min
Jan 24, 2026Episode 591
Betsy Mueller Ran Across the USA

Exactly one hundred episodes ago, we spoke with Betsy about her plan to ran across the US despite living with MS. Here we are, one year later, to discuss her experience!

1 hr
Jan 22, 2026Episode 590
Training Tuesday: The Superior Spring 50k Lottery!

Both Brakken and Kirk entered the lottery and this week they both found out they got in! With sixteen weeks until race day, what is their plan for being ready to attack 31 miles of technical, hilly terrain??

1 hr 10 min
Jan 16, 2026Episode 589
Q&A!

Our take on orthotics. One shoe to “do it all”. Should we worry about kids’ running form? If we had to add in one extra hour of non-aerobic training per day, what would it be? How long to adjust to carbon plated shoes. How cold is too cold to run? And more!

1 hr 9 min
Jan 15, 2026Episode 588
Training Tuesday: Efficiency with Felicia Pasadyn

Training for the Olympic Marathon Trials on top of full time med school means that Felicia has to be hyper efficient with her training and her daily schedule. We discuss her daily practices, tips, and recommendations for living a more efficient life.

1 hr 16 min
Jan 12, 2026Episode 587
Ryan Kules

Last month, double amputee Ryan Kules set three Guinness World Records for adaptive rowing: fastest marathon, fastest ultramarathon, and longest distance in one hour.

59 min
Jan 7, 2026Episode 586
Training Tuesday: Our Ultra Off Season

With both of us having an “Ultra Focus” this off season, but starting with totally different fitness levels, this is what it will look like from a training perspective.

1 hr 5 min
Jan 1, 2026Episode 585
The Final Q&A of 2025

We close out our podcast year the best way we know how: Q&A sesh!

1 hr 5 min
Dec 27, 2025Episode 584
All We Really Want for Christmas

When we look back a year from now, these are the race results and training blocks that will make us happy men in 2026!

34 min
Dec 20, 2025Episode 583
Speedgoat & Clifton Alternatives

A few episodes ago, we mentioned how the Hoka Speedgoat and Clifton just aren’t working for us like they used to and so many of you reached out to confirm your same experience. So, today we’re giving you eighteen alternative shoe options to consider!

58 min
Dec 18, 2025Episode 582
Training Tuesday: 2025 Year In Review

We, but mostly Brakken, talk about our year of training, racing, and also what next year might look like!

1 hr 4 min
Dec 13, 2025Episode 581
You Only Get Three!

We pick three shoes, three training locations, and three pieces of gear/clothing for each major race type: 5k/10k, Half Marathon/Marathon, and Ultramarathons.

1 hr 1 min
Dec 11, 2025Episode 580
Training Tuesday: Why Ultras are the Best Race Distance(s)

The training, the current Pro scene, the race itself, and what Ultramarathon fitness allows you to do makes these the best race distances!

1 hr 15 min
Dec 6, 2025Episode 579
Mary Martin - Race Director

Mary Martin is the race director of the Standhope Ultra Challenge in Idaho: a race built for women, parents, and the next generation of mountain athletes.

51 min
Dec 3, 2025Episode 578
Training Tuesday: Why the Half Marathon/Marathon is the Best Distance!

The training, the current Pro scene, the race itself, and what HM / Marathon fitness allows you to do makes these the best race distances!

59 min
Nov 29, 2025Episode 577
Training Tuesday: Why the 5k / 10k is the Best Distance

The training, the current Pro scene, the race itself, and what 5k / 10k fitness allows you to do makes these the best race distances!

1 hr 20 min
Nov 22, 2025Episode 576
Felicia Pasadyn

Former NCAA D1 swimmer, current NYU med student, and recent Olympic Trials Marathon Qualifier off less than 50 miles per week!

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