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The Midlife Momma Podcast - Empty nest mom, Parenting adult children, Midlife transition, Christian mom

Christian Parenting·Hosted by Pamela Henkelman·224 episodes

KidsFamilyParentingChristianityReligionSpiritualityChristian momsEmpty nestSolo and interviews15-35 minWeeklyPractical encouragement

Welcome to The Midlife Momma Podcast, the go-to resource for empty nest moms ready to embrace the next chapter of life with confidence and purpose! Join me, Pamela Henkelman, a certified Empty Nest Coach and proud momma of five, as we navigate this transformative journey together. Each week, we dive into essential topics that matter most to midlife moms, including: * Setting and maintaining boundaries * Rediscovering your life’s purpose * Mastering effective communication with adult children * Strengthening your marriage in the empty nest season * Leaning on faith to guide your journey Follow The Midlife Momma Podcast now to join a community of...

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The Midlife Momma Podcast gives Christian empty nest moms a steady, compassionate place to process changing family roles, adult children, marriage, aging parents, and faith. Host Pamela Henkelman mixes short solo coaching episodes with guest conversations, so listeners get both practical steps and emotionally honest encouragement. It is especially useful for moms who still care deeply about their grown kids but want to release control, rebuild purpose, and move through midlife with more peace.

Episodes

14 min
Jun 4, 2026
223. When Your Adult Child Pulls Away: Understanding Estrangement and What to Do Next

Estrangement with an adult child is one of the most painful and confusing experiences a mom can face. In this episode, we’re talking about what estrangement really is, what it isn’t, and how it often develops over time. You’ll learn how to navigate this season with clarity and a steady heart.HELPFUL LINKS: Christian Parenting's Moms, Dads & Grads Gift Guide hereFree Guide: Journaling Through Transitional Grief hereApply for Coaching with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

29 min
May 28, 2026
222. What Every Mom Needs: Finding Peace When You Feel You Have to Hold It All Together with Author Nicole Suvar

If you’ve been holding everything together and feeling the weight of it, this conversation is for you. Author Nichole Suvar joins me to talk about her book, I Don’t Have to Hold it All Together, and how God’s original design still leads us to real peace. We talk about the pressure we carry, the places we seek peace, and what it means to finally rest in God rather than striving. This one will meet you right where you are.HELPFUL LINKS: Cozy Earth Website here 20% off Discount Code: MOMMA Nichole's Book I Don't Have to Hold it All Together hereNichole's Website herePreorder Bonus hereNichole's Summer Book Club hereFree Guide: Journaling Through Transitional Grief hereApply for Coaching with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

28 min
May 21, 2026
221. What Every Mom Needs: Parenting Teens & Adult Kids at the Same Time with Courtney Doyle

HELPFUL LINKS: Cozy Earth Website here 20% Off Discount Code: MOMMAConnect with Courtney hereFree Guide: Journaling Through Transitional Grief hereApply for Coaching with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

24 min
May 14, 2026
220. What Every Mom Needs: Healing from Mother Wounds with Best-Selling Author, Melanie Shankle

In this honest and hope-filled conversation, Pamela sits down with author Melanie Shankle to discuss healing from the wounds many women carry from their relationships with their mothers. Together, they explore how those experiences shape us, how faith plays a role in healing, and what it looks like to move forward with grace. This episode offers encouragement for any mom ready to stop carrying the past and step into freedom.HELPFUL LINKS: Melanie's book, Here Be Dragons hereFree Guide: Journaling Through Transitional Grief hereApply for Coaching with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

26 min
May 7, 2026
219. What Every Mom Needs: Navigating the Shift When Your Mom Ages with Sharon Schneider

There comes a moment in midlife when the roles begin to shift, and the woman who once cared for you now needs care from you. In this heartfelt conversation, I sit down with a very special guest, my own mom, to talk about the realities of aging and the beauty of honoring our parents. If you’re navigating changing roles with your parents or wondering how to walk this season with grace, this episode will remind you that you’re not alone.HELPFUL LINKS: Free Guide: Journaling Through Transitional Grief hereApply for Coaching with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

38 min
Apr 30, 2026
218. When a Prodigal Comes Home: Encouragement for Moms of Wayward Adult Children with Judy Douglass

Watching an adult child walk away from faith can be one of the most painful experiences a mother faces. In this episode, author and podcast host Judy Douglas shares the story of her prodigal child’s return and the hope she discovered while waiting on God. If you are praying for a wandering child, this conversation will encourage you not to give up.HELPFUL LINKS: Prayer for Prodigals Website herePrayers for Prodigals Facebook Page hereFree Guide: Journaling Through Transitional Grief hereApply for Coaching with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

15 min
Apr 23, 2026
217. When Your Adult Child Rejects God: 6 Ways to Love Them Like the Father Does

What do you do when your adult child no longer believes in God and is captured by the world? In this episode, we look at the father in the parable of the prodigal son and uncover six powerful ways to love your wayward adult child with grace, trust, and hope. If you’re a Christian mom struggling with fear, guilt, or frustration, this conversation will encourage you to release control, guard your heart, and trust God with your child’s story.HELPFUL LINKS: Christian Parenting's Moms, Dads & Grads Guide hereFree Guide: Journaling Through Transitional Grief hereApply for Coaching with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

24 min
Apr 16, 2026
216. When Your Child’s Rebellion Is Really Grief: Blended Families with Pastor Inés Franklin

Pastor Inés Franklin joins Pamela to talk about the hidden grief many children carry when families change because of divorce, remarriage, or other transitions. They discuss how unresolved loss can look like rebellion, why spiritual pressure often backfires, and how parents can disciple their children through empathy instead of control.HELPFUL LINKS: Ines' Website hereInes' book, Blended and Blessed hereFree Guide: Journaling Through Transitional Grief hereApply for Coaching with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

13 min
Apr 9, 2026
215. When Your Adult Child Walks Away: Overcoming Shame as a Christian Mom

When your adult child walks away from the faith, heartbreak is only part of the story. Shame often follows close behind. In this episode, Pamela shares six biblical perspective shifts to help Christian moms release guilt, trust God with their wandering child, and rest securely in their identity in Christ. If you’re carrying shame about a prodigal son or daughter, this episode will help you breathe again.HELPFUL LINKS: Christian Parenting Moms, Dads & Grads Gift Guide hereFree Guide: Journaling Through Transitional Grief hereApply for Coaching with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

32 min
Apr 2, 2026
214. How to Love Your Empty Nest Mornings with Author Jennifer Dukes Lee

What if learning to love your morning could change the way you experience the empty nest? Pamela talks with Jennifer Dukes Lee about her book How to Love Your Morning and how empty nest moms can create grace-filled morning rhythms, renew their mindset, and experience God’s mercy at the start of each day.HELPFUL LINKS:Get Jennifer's Book, How to Love Your Morning here Free Guide: Journaling Through Transitional Grief hereApply for Coaching with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

14 min
Mar 26, 2026
213. Seven Ways Your Intimacy with God Deepens as You Grow Older

Does your relationship with God feel different in midlife? In this episode, Pamela shares 7 ways intimacy with God deepens as you grow older, especially in the empty nest season. If you’ve moved from striving to surrender, from performance to peace, this conversation will affirm the beautiful maturity happening in your faith.HELPFUL LINKS: Christian Parenting's Easter Bundle hereFree Guide: Journaling Through Transitional Grief hereApply for Coaching with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

24 min
Mar 19, 2026
212. How to Find Peace When Life Changes with Author Autumn Schoeck

Author Autumn Schoeck joins Pamela to discuss what it means to find peace in Christ during empty-nest transitions. If you’ve been feeling unsteady in this season, this conversation will help you anchor your identity, peace, and sense of belonging in Him.HELPFUL LINKS:  Autumn's book, This Feels Like Home: Inspiration for Finding Peace hereAutumn's website hereFree Guide: Journaling Through Transitional Grief hereApply for Coaching with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

15 min
Mar 12, 2026
211. A Simple Prayer Framework for Empty Nest Moms Who Are Tired of Worrying

Worry doesn’t disappear when our kids grow up; it just changes shape. In this episode, Pamela shares a simple, grace-filled prayer framework from Philippians 4:6 to help empty nest moms move from worry to peace. If you’re tired of carrying anxiety, guilt, and unanswered questions, this gentle conversation will remind you that God isn’t asking you to try harder. He’s inviting you closer.HELPFUL LINKS: Christian Parenting's Easter Bundle hereFree Guide: Journaling Through Transitional Grief hereApply for Coaching with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

28 min
Mar 5, 2026
210. Good Daughtering in the Empty Nest: Caring for Aging Parents and Loving Adult Children Well with Dr Allison Alford

In this episode, Pamela talks with Dr. Allison Alford about her book Good Daughtering and the emotional tension many empty nest moms feel in midlife. As we care for aging parents and learn new ways to relate to our adult children, guilt and pressure can quietly take over. This gentle conversation explores how to redefine what it means to be a “good daughter,” set healthy boundaries, and walk through this season with grace instead of obligation.HELPFUL LINKS: Buy Good Daughtering hereDr Alford's website hereFree Guide: Journaling Through Transitional Grief hereApply for Coaching with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

36 min
Feb 26, 2026
209. Why Communication Breaks Down in the Empty Nest and How to Fix It with Counselors Chris & Jamie Bailey

When the kids leave home, many couples discover they don’t know how to talk anymore. Christian marriage counselors Chris and Jamie Bailey share practical, faith-filled insights on improving communication in empty-nest marriages, so couples can move from roommates to meaningful connection.HELPFUL LINKS: Chris & Jamie's website hereFree Guide: Marriage Awareness Worksheet hereFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

14 min
Feb 19, 2026
208. When Your Empty Nest Marriage Feels Like Roommates: 6 Ways to Reconnect

Does your empty nest marriage feel more like roommates than partners? In this episode, we talk about why connection often fades after the kids leave home and share six practical, grace-filled steps to help you reconnect emotionally, physically, and spiritually with your husband. It’s not too late to grow close again.HELPFUL LINKS: Christian Parenting's Morning Minute hereFree Guide: Marriage Awareness Worksheet hereFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

25 min
Feb 12, 2026
207. Praying Together in the Empty Nest: Rebuilding Spiritual Intimacy as a Couple with Bob and Pamela Henkelman

When the house gets quieter, many couples realize they’ve drifted spiritually. In this special episode, I sit down with my husband, Bob, a pastor and fellow empty nester, to talk honestly about praying together as a couple. We share why praying together matters, why it can feel awkward, and simple ways to begin rebuilding spiritual intimacy in the empty nest.HELPFUL LINKS: Free Guide: Marriage Awareness Worksheet hereApply for Coaching with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

16 min
Feb 5, 2026
206. Six Ways to Strengthen Your Empty Nest Marriage When You Feel Like You’re Growing Apart

When the kids leave home, many women are surprised by an ache they didn’t expect; distance in their marriage. The house is quieter, the roles have changed, and the connection with your husband can feel strained or fragile. In this episode, Pamela shares 6 grace-filled ways to strengthen your empty nest marriage when you feel like you’re growing apart. Through faith-based wisdom, Scripture, and gentle reflection, you’ll learn how awareness, prayer, and intentional love can help rebuild connection and restore hope.HELPFUL LINKS: Christian Parenting's Morning Minute hereFree Guide: The Marriage Awareness Worksheet hereApply for Coaching with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

16 min
Jan 29, 2026
205. Six Questions Every Empty Nest Mom Should Ask to Discover Her God-Given Purpose

What’s your purpose now that your kids have left home? The empty nest often brings big questions about identity, meaning, and what God is doing next. In this episode of  Empty Nest, Coach Pamela Henkelman shares six faith-filled questions to help moms rediscover their God-given purpose after motherhood.Rooted in Scripture and real-life wisdom, this conversation will encourage you to see the empty nest not as an ending, but as an invitation to trust God and step confidently into your next season.HELPFUL LINKS: Free Guide: Journaling Through Transitional Grief hereFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

27 min
Jan 22, 2026
204. Finding Your Purpose in the Empty Nest with Author Julie Lefebure

What does purpose look like after the kids leave home? Author, speaker, and host of the Encouragement for Real Life podcast, Julie Lefebure, joins Pamela for a heartfelt conversation about discovering purpose in midlife. Julie shares her personal journey, her connection with God, and how God used writing, speaking, and even grandparenting to reshape her calling.If you’re feeling unsure, stuck, or craving clarity in this season, this episode will help you see your life with fresh hope.HELPFUL LINKS: CP Morning Minute hereJulie's Free Resources hereFree Guide: Journaling Through Transitional Grief hereFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

15 min
Jan 15, 2026
203. Embracing Aging: Six Strategies for Confidence and Peace in Midlife

Aging doesn’t mean you’re fading; it means you’re deepening. In this encouraging episode, Pamela Henkelman shares six faith-filled strategies to help midlife moms embrace aging with confidence and purpose.Learn how to accept your season, walk in God-given confidence, harness your wisdom, and step into the most productive years of your life. You’ll come away encouraged, grounded, and reminded that God isn’t finished with you yet.HELPFUL LINKS: CP 's Morning Minute hereFree Guide: Journaling Through Transitional Grief hereFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

12 min
Jan 8, 2026Episode 202
200 Episodes of Faith, Family & the Empty Nest: Looking Back with Gratitude, Looking Ahead with Hope

We’re celebrating our 200th episode as Pamela Henkelman reflects on the beautiful journey of The Midlife Momma Podcast, from the early days of recording with trembling hands to becoming a global community of Christian empty nest moms who love their adult children with grace and trust God in the transition.Join Pamela as she shares the podcast origin story, God’s faithfulness, listener transformations, the most impactful episodes, behind-the-scenes moments, and the powerful lessons learned from walking alongside moms in this tender season of life.HELPFUL LINKS: Free Guide: Journaling Through Transitional Grief hereFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

26 min
Jan 1, 2026
201. #1 Top Episode of 2025: Healing the Rift: Restoring the Relationship with Your Son/Daughter-in-Law with Kathy Cunningham

When the relationship with your son or daughter-in-law is strained, the ripple effects can touch every corner of your heart. Suddenly, the connection with your child feels fragile, your role as a mom feels uncertain, and even time with your grandkids can feel out of reach.In this powerful, hope-filled conversation, Counselor Kathy Cunningham joins me to unpack what really happens when these relationships break down, and how healing is absolutely possible. Kathy offers practical tools, biblical wisdom, and deep compassion as she guides us through the very first step a mom should take when reconciliation feels impossible.HELPFUL LINKS: Free Guide: 10 Things Not to Say to Your Adult Child hereFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

14 min
Dec 25, 2025
200. #2 Top Episode of 2025: Why Talking to Your Adult Kids Feels So Hard and How to Fix It!

Ever walked away from a conversation with your grown child thinking, “What just happened?” You’re not alone, Momma. Communication in the empty nest can feel tricky. The roles have changed, emotions run deep, and sometimes the words just don’t land the way we hoped.In this highly downloaded episode, Pamela unpacks ten common barriers that make conversations with adult children so challenging, and shares practical, grace-filled solutions to overcome each one.HELPFUL LINKS: Free Guide: Journaling Through Transitional Grief hereFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

9 min
Dec 18, 2025
199. #3 Top Episode of 2025: Avoid These 10 Phrases: What Not to Say to Your Adult Child

As moms, our words carry incredible power, especially with our adult children. We never intend to hurt them, but sometimes, without realizing it, what we say can sound like guilt, criticism, or disapproval.In this listener-favorite episode, Pamela unpacks ten common phrases that can unintentionally wound your grown kids and offers loving alternatives that build connection instead of conflict. If you’ve ever walked away from a conversation wishing you’d said it differently, this episode is for you.HELPFUL LINKS: End of Year Gift to Christian Parenting hereFree Guide: Journaling Through Transitional Grief hereFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

14 min
Dec 11, 2025
198. #4 Top Episode of 2025: Letting Go of Control: Trusting God with Your Adult Children

What happens when your child’s choices take them down a path you didn’t expect, and you can’t fix it? In this heartfelt replay of one of our most-loved episodes, Pamela shares how to release the need to control your adult children and find peace in trusting God’s plan instead. Learn practical, faith-filled steps to trade worry for worship, surrender for strength, and fear for freedom.HELPFUL LINKS: Free Guide: Journaling Through Transitional Grief hereFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

11 min
Dec 4, 2025
197. How to Talk to Your Adult Kids with Respect (Even When You Disagree)

When your adult kids come home for the holidays, tough conversations can pop up fast. In this episode, Pamela shares how to talk with your grown children respectfully, even when you disagree. Learn how to listen without judgment, value the relationship over being right, and model Christ’s love in every conversation.HELPFUL LINKS: End of Year Gift to Christian Parenting hereFree Guide: Journaling Through Transitional Grief hereFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

10 min
Nov 27, 2025
196. Glory All Around: Finding Gratitude in Every Season

In this special Thanksgiving Day episode of The Midlife Momma Podcast, Pamela invites you to pause, breathe, and look for God’s glory all around you. Through the simple beauty of a sunrise and the practice of gratitude, she reminds us that even in the hard places of parenting adult children, God’s presence never leaves.You’ll discover why gratitude is such a powerful antidote for a weary momma’s heart, how it helps us see God more clearly, and how writing down our thanks strengthens our faith.HELPFUL LINKS: Free Guide: Journaling Through Transitional Grief hereFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

16 min
Nov 20, 2025
195. When the Holidays Don’t Look the Same: Finding Peace with Your Adult Children

Hey Momma, are your holiday expectations stealing your joy? In this episode, we’ll talk about how to let go of what “should be” and embrace what is. Learn six grace-filled ways to stay flexible, find peace, and keep connection at the heart of your holidays. Even when things look different, God’s goodness is still all around.HELPFUL LINKS: CP Christmas Gift Guide hereFree Guide: Journaling Through Transitional Grief hereFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

28 min
Nov 13, 2025
194 Untangled Advent: Finding Hope & Rest in the Empty Nest with Author Megan Nilsen

Hey Momma, do the holidays feel different now that the kids are grown? In this heartfelt Advent conversation, Pamela Henkelman and guest Megan Nilson, author of Untangled Advent: Finding Hope in a Weary World, talk about how empty-nest moms can release expectations, embrace spiritual rhythms, and rediscover peace this Christmas. If you’re longing for a slower, more meaningful holiday season centered on Jesus, this episode will renew your heart and help you savor His presence in every moment.HELPFUL LINKS: Untangled Advent by Megan Nilsen hereFree Guide: Journaling Through Transitional Grief hereFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

13 min
Nov 6, 2025
193. When Grown Kids Can’t Come Home: Finding Peace and Joy in New Traditions

What happens when not everyone can make it home for the holidays? For many empty nest moms, this new reality brings a wave of disappointment, but it doesn’t have to steal your joy. Join Pamela as she shares six practical and faith-filled ways to approach holiday planning with your adult kids. You’ll learn how to practice radical acceptance, lead with emotional steadiness, and discover that even when the traditions change, God’s love and family connection remain strong.HELPFUL LINKS: CP Christmas Gift Guide hereFree Guide: Journaling Through Transitional Grief hereFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

31 min
Oct 30, 2025
192. Staying Close When Your Grown Kids Live Far Away with Joanne McHugh

Hey Momma, what happens when your grown kids spread their wings, and their new home is in a different time zone? The distance can leave a tender ache in your heart.In this heartfelt conversation, I’m joined by Joanne McHugh, creator of Things Your Mom Should Have Told You, to talk about how to stay emotionally close even when the miles stretch long. We’ll explore how to accept the move, manage expectations, and keep your connection strong through faith and intentional rhythms.HELPFUL LINKS: Things Your Mom Should Have Told You newsletter Free Guide: Journaling Through Transitional Grief hereFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

14 min
Oct 23, 2025
191. Overwhelmed by Your Adult Kids' Struggles? Soul-Care Practices for Moms

Are you feeling weighed down by the struggles of your adult kids? In this episode, Pamela shares six soul-care practices to help Christian moms move from overwhelm to peace. With insights from Dr. Alison Cook, you’ll learn how to honor your needs, process emotions through God’s truth, and find rest in His presence. Momma, you don’t have to carry it all. Come be reminded that God sees you, loves you, and is ready to restore your weary soul.HELPFUL LINKS: CP Christmas Shopping Guide hereFree Guide: Journaling Through Transitional Grief hereFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

31 min
Oct 16, 2025
190. Overcoming Worst-Case Scenario Thinking About Your Adult Child with Coach Jennifer Collins

Do you ever find yourself spiraling into worst-case scenarios about your adult child? In this episode, Pamela sits down with Master Coach Jennifer Collins, host of The Almost Empty Nest Podcast, to talk about why our minds default to fear and how to stop catastrophizing. Together they explore practical tools to quiet anxious thoughts, discern real concerns from imagined ones, and lean into God’s truth instead of panic.HELPFUL LINKS: Jennifer's Free Master Class hereFree Guide: Journaling Through Transitional Grief hereFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

14 min
Oct 9, 2025
189. Transitional Grief in the Empty Nest: How Christian Moms Can Cope with God’s Grace

Launching a child can leave even the strongest momma feeling undone. In this episode, we unpack transitional grief, what it is, how to recognize it, and why it’s a normal part of the empty nest journey. You’ll learn practical ways to acknowledge your emotions, healthy strategies to cope, and how trusting God can bring comfort in the middle of change.HELPFUL LINKS: Free Guide: Journaling Through Transitional Grief hereFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

30 min
Oct 2, 2025
188. Empty Nest Blessed: Finding Faith & Joy in the Empty Nest with Author Suzy Mighell

Author and creator of Empty Nest Blessed, Suzy Mighell, joins me for an uplifting conversation about finding faith and joy in the empty nest. Suzy shares what inspired her new book, how God has met her in this season, and how moms can experience His presence during times of transition. Whether you’re grieving the quiet or longing for fresh purpose, Suzy reminds us that the empty nest doesn’t have to feel empty; it can be a place filled with God’s comfort, joy, and new beginnings.HELPFUL LINKS: Preorder Empty Nest Blessed hereFree Guide: 10 Things Not to Say to Your Adult Child hereFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

11 min
Sep 25, 2025
187. When Your Adult Child Doubts God: Why Listening Matters More Than Fixing

What do you do when your adult child says, “I’m not sure I believe in God anymore”? In this episode, we explore how Christian moms can respond with grace, compassion, and trust. Instead of panicking or preaching, you’ll learn why listening is the greatest gift you can give and how it opens the door for God to keep working in your child’s heart.HELPFUL LINKS: Free Guide: 10 Things Not to Say to Your Adult Child hereFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

14 min
Sep 18, 2025
186. Boundaries with Adult Children: Phrases and Behaviors That Backfire

If you’ve ever struggled to set boundaries with your adult child, you’re not alone. Healthy boundaries with adult children aren’t about control; they’re about love, respect, and connection. In this episode, I’m sharing six phrases and behaviors to avoid so you can communicate clearly, protect your relationship, and honor God in the process. Learn how to set boundaries with your grown kids in a way that builds trust, strengthens your faith, and creates lasting connections.HELPFUL LINKS: CP Friday Favorites Newsletter hereFree Guide: 10 Things Not to Say to Your Adult Child hereFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

14 min
Sep 11, 2025
185. Why Setting Boundaries Is a Gift to Your Adult Child

What if saying “no” could actually bring you closer to your grown kids? In this episode, discover why healthy, biblical boundaries can deepen connection, protect your peace, and create the space where love grows best.HELPFUL LINKS:  Christian Parenting's Friday Favorites Newsletter hereFree Guide: 10 Things Not to Say to Your Adult Child hereFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

13 min
Sep 8, 2025
Bonus Episode: Praying for Your Kids and Grandkids

Hey Momma, today we’ve got something special for you: a bonus episode straight from the Pardon the Mess podcast!Every Monday, host Courtney DeFeo shares a short prayer to help you lift up your kids. Thisyear’s series follows Christian Parenting’s brand new prayer journal, A Great Cloud ofWitnesses. Each week highlights a biblical hero of the faith, paired with Scripture-based prayers for yourkids. Here is a sneak peek into week one:This first week is all about Noah—a man of incredible faith and obedience. While the worldaround him turned away from God, Noah walked in righteousness. Building the ark probablylooked foolish to everyone else, but Noah trusted God’s word even when it didn’t make sense.That’s the kind of faith we want for our kids: to listen to God’s voice over any others and walkconfidently with Him even when it means standing apart.If you love this episode and don’t have your copy of A Great Cloud of Witnesses yet, it’s not toolate to get yours! Go ChristianParenting.org to get your copy and follow along. And don’t forgetto tune in to Pardon the Mess every Monday for more prayer episodes. Order A Great Cloud of Witnesses today hereFollow Pardon the Mess on Apple or Spotify

25 min
Sep 4, 2025
184. Tending Your Soul Through Transition with Author, Mariel Davenport

When motherhood shifts in the empty nest, how do you steady your soul? Author Mariel Davenport shares her TEND method and fresh encouragement from Scripture to help you walk with God through seasons of change.HELPFUL LINKS: Preorder Mariel's book, Ruth: Finding Grace in the Unexpected, hereMariel's Free 4 Week Devotional Through Ruth hereFree Guide: 10 Things Not to Say to Your Adult Child hereFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

13 min
Aug 28, 2025
183. What To Do When Your Grown Child Won’t Move Out

What should you do when your adult child won’t leave the nest? In this honest and hope-filled episode, we explore six faith-filled strategies to help you navigate delayed launching with wisdom and grace. Learn how to set healthy boundaries, communicate with love, encourage independence, and trust God’s timing, without losing the relationship or yourself in the process. HELPFUL LINKS: Free Guide: 10 Things Not to Say to Your Adult Child hereFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate the podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

28 min
Aug 21, 2025
182. Empty Nest Awakening: Ruthie Gray’s Wisdom for Launching Kids with Faith

Launching our kids into adulthood is one of the most emotional transitions of motherhood. In this episode, author and seasoned mom Ruthie Gray shares her honest wisdom on identity, boundaries, communication, and faith during the launching years. If you're feeling unsure or a little lost, you're not alone, and this conversation is full of hope and encouragement just for you.HELPFUL LINKS: Free Guide: Next Steps Journal hereThe Sandwich Season Podcast hereFree Guide: 10 Things Not to Say to Your Adult Child hereFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

13 min
Aug 14, 2025
181. How to Let Go Well: A Christian Mom’s Guide to Launching Her Child

Launching a child into adulthood is emotional, sacred, and often bittersweet. In this episode, Pamela shares six powerful tips to help you release well, support wisely, and stay rooted in your faith. Learn how to manage your emotions, set healthy expectations, and anchor your identity in Christ, not just your role as mom. With grace and intention, you can let go well.HELPFUL LINKS: Free Guide: 10 Things Not to Say to Your Adult Child hereFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

26 min
Aug 7, 2025
180. How to Reconnect with Your Spouse After the Kids Leave with Author Sally Livingston

When the kids move out, it’s easy for the marriage to feel distant or even disconnected. But what if the empty nest could be a fresh start?In this heartfelt episode, Pamela is joined by author and counselor Sally Livingston to talk about how couples can move from feeling like roommates to rekindling emotional and spiritual intimacy. Whether your marriage feels stuck or just needs a reset, this conversation offers hope, practical tools, and the reminder that it’s never too late to reconnect.HELPFUL LINKS: 10 Day Journal for Marital Growth hereSally's website hereFree Guide: 10 Things Not to Say to Your Adult Child hereFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

32 min
Jul 31, 2025
179. Rocking the Grandma Role with Chrys and Shellie of Rocking It Grand Podcast

In this uplifting episode, I’m joined by Chrys Howard and Shellie Tomlinson, hosts of the Rocking It Grand podcast and authors of the book by the same name. These two fun and faith-filled grandmas share wisdom on leaving a godly legacy and investing spiritually in your grandkids, even from a distance.HELPFUL LINKS: Free Chapter Rocking It Grand hereRocking It Grand website hereFree Guide: 10 Things Not to Say to Your Adult Child hereFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

13 min
Jul 24, 2025
178. When Grandparenting Hurts: Finding Hope in the Heartache

What do you do when grandparenting doesn’t look the way you hoped? In this tender episode, we’re talking about the grief that comes from distance, estrangement, or unmet expectations and how to find peace and purpose in the middle of it. Let’s walk through six ways to cope and invite Jesus into the ache.HELPFUL LINKS: A Cloud of Witnesses Prayer Journal here Code: CLOUDFree Guide: 10 Things Not to Say to Your Adult Child hereFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

27 min
Jul 17, 2025
177. When Your Daughter Becomes a Mom: How to Support Without Overstepping with Keziah Estrem

How sweet it is to watch your daughter become a mom. Our youngest daughter, Keziah, became a mom this year, and I wanted you to hear her heart on what young moms need most in this tender season of motherhood.HELPFUL LINKS: Free Guide: 10 Things Not to Say to Your Adult Child hereFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

13 min
Jul 10, 2025
176. How to Be a Supportive (Not Pushy) Grandma

Becoming a grandma is a gift, but it’s not without challenges. In this episode, I share five faith-filled ways to support your adult children’s parenting with grace, not control. Learn how to show up with prayer, humility, and love as you build a joyful legacy with your grandkids.HELPFUL LINKS: Free Guide: 10 Things Not to Say to Your Adult Child hereA Great Cloud of Witnesses Prayer JournalFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here

29 min
Jul 3, 2025
175. From Guilt to Grace: Helping Christian Moms of Addicted or Struggling Adult Children with Author Dawn Ward

Author Dawn Ward shares her journey of parenting an addicted adult child and how she moved from guilt and shame to grace and freedom in Christ. If your adult child is struggling, this episode offers honest encouragement and real hope.HELPFUL LINKS: From Guilt to Grace by Dawn Ward hereFree Guide: Boundaries with Your Addicted Child hereFacebook Group:  Christian Moms of Addicted Children hereFree Guide: 10 Things Not to Say to Your Adult Child hereFree Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela hereTake the free 2-minute Quiz hereReview + Rate podcast hereFollow Pamela on Instagram hereFollow Pamela on Facebook herePamela's website with free resources here