The Intrinsic Value Podcast - The Investor’s Podcast Network
The Investor's Podcast Network·Hosted by Shawn O'Malley, Daniel Mahncke and Kyle Grieve·767 episodes
Presented by The Investors Podcast Network with over 10 million downloads — home to the popular We Study Billionaires podcast, The Intrinsic Value Podcast is a new show focused on breaking down businesses, estimating their intrinsic value per share, and deciding whether they should be added to an ongoing portfolio of stocks built out each week. From assessing the monopoly power of Google to determining the fair value of publicly-traded sports franchises, no topics is off limits in the pursuit of understanding as many different businesses as possible and putting together the ultimate long-term stock portfolio.Every week, The Intrinsic Value Podcast wi...
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The Intrinsic Value Podcast is for stock pickers who enjoy hearing a business taken apart piece by piece, from moat and management to valuation and portfolio fit. Each episode focuses on a specific public company or portfolio review, with Shawn O'Malley, Daniel Mahncke, and Kyle Grieve debating whether the stock deserves a place in their ongoing Intrinsic Value Portfolio. It is especially useful for listeners who want applied value investing, not just market headlines.
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Kyle Grieve and Shawn O’Malley analyze LIFCO, one of the world's leading industrial serial acquirers operating through three distinct divisions spanning dental supplies, demolition equipment, and niche systems solutions across Europe. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: (00:00:00) Intro (00:01:39) The fascinating history of LIFCO (00:07:31) How Carl Bennett built the DNA that still guides LIFCO's acquisition strategy today (00:09:24) Fredrik Karlsson's legendary track record and why he bought more stock after being removed (00:11:16) The three distinct business segments and how they drive growth independently (00:17:29) LIFCO's rigorous eight-step acquisition process (00:31:52) How LIFCO uses put/call options to align management incentives (00:40:46) Why niche industrial markets create natural competitive advantages that larger competitors simply ignore (00:45:23) The capital efficiency metrics that prove LIFCO's returns are sustainable and real (01:09:26) What risks could derail the business (01:14:36) Multiple valuation scenarios showing potential returns under bull, base, and bear cases (01:16:53) Intrinsic value of Lifco (01:23:16) Portfolio decision Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community. Track The Intrinsic Value Portfolio. Read more on Lifco and other serial acquirer outperformers in The Compounders. Listen to Kyle's episode on The Compounders. Learn more about process power in Kyle's interview with Hamilton Helmer. Follow Kyle on X and Linkedin. Follow Shawn on X and Linkedin
In today's episode, Kyle Grieve and Shawn O’Malley analyze NVR, Inc., a homebuilder that has achieved incredible returns through disciplined capital allocation and aggressive share buybacks. They’ll explore NVR's differentiated business model, which helps minimize capital intensity and risk, and examine how this strategy has enabled superior returns on capital. They’ll navigate how to think of NVR through cycles and whether it’s a business that is simple to understand. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: (00:00:00) Intro (00:01:30) How NVR became a legendary share cannibal in homebuilding (00:05:05) The LPA model and how NVR de-risks traditional homebuilding (00:10:16) Why homebuilders love leverage while NVR maintains a fortress balance sheet (00:15:34) How the mortgage banking segment generates high margins (00:21:41) The history of its margin rise and stabilization (00:27:49) How counter-positioning creates competitive advantages (00:52:58) How management is aligned through ROIC incentives and deep insider ownership (01:06:15) About the cyclicality trap, homebuilders must deal with (01:18:45) The three distinct valuation scenarios and what they reveal (01:14:06) Intrinsic value of NVR (01:26:15) Whether Kyle and Shawn will add NVR to the Intrinsic Value Portfolio Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community. Track The Intrinsic Value Portfolio. Read Norbert Lou’s initial NVR writeup from 100. Joel Greenblatt’s NVR case study. Follow Kyle on X and Linkedin. Follow Shawn on X and Linkedin. Related books mentioned in the podcast. Ad-free episodes on our <a href="https://
Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O'Malley take a deep dive into Sea Limited — the largest Southeast Asian marketplace whose investment case now turns on two of the most debated questions in the stock today: whether Shopee's dominance across Southeast Asia can hold up against TikTok Shop without margins being structurally capped near current levels, and whether Sea's expansion into Brazil, head-to-head with Mercado Libre, is the next leg of the story or a costly distraction from the markets where the company already wins. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: (00:00:00) Intro (00:02:36) How Sea Limited was founded (00:06:39) Which business units belong to Sea Limited (00:11:48) How a gaming business is funding Shopee and Monee (00:16:54) How Monee compares to Mercado Libre's Mercado Pago (00:42:32) Why Shopee has become the largest e-commerce company in SEA (01:19:22) How Sea Limited’s moat looks like (01:28:17) Why Sea Limited is so strong in Brazil (01:34:22) Whether Shawn and Daniel add SE to the Intrinsic Value Portfolio Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community. Track The Intrinsic Value Portfolio. Norges Bank Interview with SE CEO. Jimmy’s Journal's Article on SEA. RS Capital Deep Dive on SEA. Hayden Capital Interview with Drew Cohen. Hayden Capital Shareholder Letter. Previous Intrinsic Value breakdowns: Uber, Nike, Reddit, Nintendo</strong
Kyle Grieve and Shawn O’Malley analyze Formula One Group, a business that commands nearly a billion global fans, generates billions in revenue from only 24 live events, and boasts free cash flow margins nearly any business would envy. They’ll trace the company’s growth history, untangle its complex capital structure, and assess its current debt situation. They’ll also cover F1’s competitive advantages, pricing power, incentives, and so much more! IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: (00:00:00) Intro (00:01:55) How F1 generates billions of dollars from 24 live events (00:03:22) Why most sports franchises fail to produce cash flow (00:05:16) How Liberty got away from the tracking stock structure to simplify things (00:16:19) How the Concorde agreements pose risk (00:21:10 ) The debt structure Liberty built to help build sustainable cash flow (00:38:04) Details of F1 Group’s other surprising racing league (00:45:34) How Netflix’s streaming coverage of F1 helped grow the sport (01:02:02) Why the business remains capital light (01:11:30) How cross-promotions and synergies create exciting new growth levers Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community. Track The Intrinsic Value Portfolio. Watch the video about the dealmakers behind F1’s success. Watch how F1 impacts local communities with its events. Read the book on Formula One’s history. Follow Kyle on X and Linkedin. Follow Shawn on X and Linkedin. Related books mentioned in the podcast. Ad-free episodes on our
Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O'Malley take a deep dive into Microsoft — the $3 trillion incumbent whose entire investment thesis now hinges on two of the most contested questions in technology: whether AI will reinforce or quietly dismantle the software franchises that built the company, and whether the OpenAI partnership is the strategic masterstroke it appeared to be in 2023, or a relationship that is slowly turning from asset into liability. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: (00:00:00) Intro (00:01:27) About all major business units (00:12:05) How LinkedIn’s business works (00:18:24) How the cloud business keeps growing (00:21:17) What the future plans for gaming are (00:24:49) Why the Office products might be in danger (00:50:52) How AI is challenging Microsoft’s software (00:55:10) Who captures the most value from AI (01:22:46) Whether Shawn and Daniel add MSFT to the Intrinsic Value Portfolio Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Stig, Shawn, Kyle, Daniel, and the other community members. Microsoft Investor Relations. World Economic Forum Interview with CEO. Follow Daniel on X and Linkedin. Follow Shawn on X and Linkedin. Related books mentioned in the podcast. Ad-free episodes on our Premium Feed. NEW TO THE SHOW? Follow our official social media accounts: X (Twitter) |
Kyle Grieve and Shawn O’Malley analyze OTC Markets Group, a hidden infrastructure company that collects tolls on over 12,000 securities while operating with fewer than 130 employees. They explore why OTCM is the only viable option for small companies and international firms seeking access to the US market, and how this quasi-monopoly has generated exceptional returns without debt or excessive dilution. By the end, you'll understand the durable competitive moats protecting this business and whether the current stock price offers an attractive entry point for value investors. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:01:24 - Why OTC Markets operates as a hidden monopoly, most investors have never heard of 00:03:08 - The three business segments generating recurring revenue from market infrastructure 00:09:09 - How OTCM's pricing power compares to other monopolistic businesses 00:14:54 - Why 130 employees can manage the infrastructure for over 12,000 securities 00:19:41 - What keeps customers so loyal 00:23:02 - How regulatory relationships create barriers to entry 00:46:22 - The surprising reason declining subscriber counts might not be concerning 00:51:00 - The exceptional unit economics that make Corporate Services so profitable 00:54:29 - Why management's capital allocation approach is so different from that of typical CEOs 01:11:54 - Whether this hidden infrastructure gem deserves a spot in your portfolio Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Join The Intrinsic Value Conference in Omaha this May 1, 2026! Learn how to join us in Omaha for the Berkshire meeting here. Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Stig, Shawn, Kyle, Daniel, and the other community members. Track The Intrinsic Value Portfolio. Learn more about OTC Markets Group on their IR. Listen to an interview with CEO, Cromwell Coulson. Follow Kyle on X and Linkedin. Follow Shawn on X<
Shawn O'Malley and Daniel Mahncke explore CoStar Group (ticker: CSGP), the dominant provider of commercial real estate data and analytics, and assess whether the company's massive $5 billion bet on Homes.com can successfully crack the residential real estate market dominated by Zillow, or whether this ambitious expansion will destroy shareholder value. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: (00:00:00) Intro (00:01:42) Why the company has delivered nearly 60 consecutive quarters of double-digit revenue growth (00:09:17) How CoStar built a dominant, near-monopoly position in commercial real estate data and analytics (00:18:30) How CoStar generates roughly 50% profit margins on its core B2B business (00:44:12) What makes CoStar's data moat so durable and difficult for competitors to replicate (00:48:12) How the company's acquisition-driven strategy has fueled decades of growth (00:56:22) Why CoStar is investing $5 billion into Homes.com to take on Zillow and Realtor.com 00:58:21) Competitive landscape in the residential real estate marketplace (01:08:41) Whether CoStar's massive residential bet will pay off or destroy shareholder value (01:23:57) How Shawn and Daniel value CoStar and whether CSGP belongs in the portfolio Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Join The Intrinsic Value Conference in Omaha this May 1, 2026! Learn how to join us in Omaha for the Berkshire meeting here. Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Stig, Shawn, Kyle, Daniel, and the other community members. Track The Intrinsic Value Portfolio. Costar pitch on the Value Investors Club. Drew Cohen’s podcast on CoStar. Follow Daniel on X and Linkedin. Follow Shawn on X and Linkedin. Related <a href="htt
Daniel Mahncke, Shawn O'Malley, and Kyle Grieve take a closer look at the Intrinsic Value Portfolio and some of the high-priority watchlist companies. The episode covers high-conviction portfolio holdings such as Airbnb, Universal Music Group, Reddit, and Exor, as well as watchlist companies like FICO, Trade Desk, and Nintendo. They also cover companies that might need to leave the portfolio today. Candidates are TransDigm and Copart. For each, the question is the same: What are the key points of the investment thesis, has the thesis held up, and does the current valuation still make sense? IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: (00:00:00) Intro(00:04:38) The key thesis behind Exor(00:15:37) The key thesis behind TransDigm and our thoughts on Copart(00:29:45) The key thesis behind Reddit(00:40:28) The key thesis behind Airbnb(00:57:58) The key thesis behind Universal Music Group(01:06:04) Our thoughts on Trade Desk(01:20:04) Our thoughts on FICO(01:29:10) Our thoughts on Nintendo Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Join The Intrinsic Value Conference in Omaha this May 1, 2026! Learn how to join us in Omaha for the Berkshire meeting here. Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Stig, Shawn, Kyle, Daniel, and the other community members. Podcasts: Exor, TransDigm, Copart, Reddit, Airbnb, Universal Music Group, <a href="https://www.thein
This week, Shawn and Daniel won't be releasing an episode as usual, but they will be back next Sunday with a new co-host joining them to help break down companies for The Intrinsic Value Portfolio. Plus, Shawn & Daniel are moving over to the main podcast feed for The Investor's Podcast. You can still find all of their weekly stock breakdowns here on Sundays, but if you head over to The Investor's Podcast, you'll be able to access their episodes four days sooner! The link to the new podcast feed, where you can access episodes from Shawn & Daniel earlier, is below. https://open.spotify.com/show/28RHOkXkuHuotUrkCdvlOP?si=e31f1a3933da46f4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSupport our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm
Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O'Malley take a deep dive into four companies operating in the shadow of one of the greatest compounders of the last two decades — Constellation Software. Some investors believe that Topicus, Lumine, Sygnity, and Asseco Poland represent the best way to own the CSI model today, while others argue that the spinoffs lack the institutional depth and deal flow of the mother ship. Join Daniel and Shawn as they assess which of these mini-Constellations has the most compelling setup, and whether any of them deserve a spot in the portfolio. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: (00:00:00) Intro (00:01:12) Why smaller VMS companies are interesting (00:09:23) How the law of large numbers shifts CSU’s focus (00:11:04) About Topicus and why it's the closest copy of CSU (00:14:57) Why VMS is so attractive for acquirers (00:31:13) Lumine and its focus on the media and communication vertical (00:44:16) Sygnity and its new chapter (01:03:51) Asseco Poland and why it might be a the next Topicus (01:11:40) Whether Shawn and Daniel add a Mini Constellation to the portfolio *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES The Investors Podcast Network is excited to debut a new community known as The Intrinsic Value Community for investors to learn, share ideas, network, and join calls with experts: Sign up for the waitlist(!) Sign up for The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Learn how to join us in Omaha for the 2026 Berkshire Hathaway shareholder meeting. Track The Intrinsic Value Portfolio. Shawn & Daniel use Fiscal.ai for every company they research — use their referral link to get started with a 15% discount! Outsiders’ Corner Asseco Writeup. Outsider’s Corner Asseco Writeup No.2. Alankrit Capital Sygnity Writeup. Seeking
Shawn O'Malley and Daniel Mahncke explore Spotify Inc. (ticker: SPOT), the world's largest audio streaming platform, and assess whether the company can sustain its growth and improve margins against fierce competition from YouTube, Apple, and Amazon, or whether it will remain trapped as a low-margin intermediary in the music industry. Spotify saved the recorded music industry from piracy and built a platform that over 750 million people use monthly. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00:00 - Intro00:13:25 - How Spotify saved the recorded music industry from piracy00:24:40 - Why the freemium business model was key to Spotify's growth00:29:24 - What makes Spotify's recommendation engine and personalization a competitive moat00:51:00 - How Spotify is diversifying beyond music into podcasts and audiobooks00:37:56 - Why music streaming margins are structurally constrained by label royalties01:16:27 - How YouTube poses the biggest competitive threat to Spotify01:11:26 - What Spotify's management team thinks about AI's impact on the business00:41:11 - How Spotify's pricing power and international expansion affect its valuation01:28:14 - Whether Shawn and Daniel add SPOT to their Intrinsic Value Portfolio *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES The Investors Podcast Network is excited to debut a new community known as The Intrinsic Value Community for investors to learn, share ideas, network, and join calls with experts: Sign up for the waitlist(!) Sign up for The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Learn how to join us in Omaha for the 2026 Berkshire Hathaway shareholder meeting. Track The Intrinsic Value Portfolio. Shawn & Daniel use Fiscal.ai for every company they research — use their referral link to get started with a 15% discount! Check out The Story of Spotify, w/ Shawn O’Malley (podcast from 2024). Shawn & Daniel’s <a href="https://www.th
Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O'Malley take a deep dive into Kelly Partners — a fast-growing Australian chartered accounting network with over 25,000 SME clients and founder Brett Kelly's relentless ambition to build Australia's first global accounting firm. Join Daniel and Shawn as they assess whether Kelly Partners has a sustainable moat, an attractive valuation, and whether it deserves a spot in portfolio. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:02:56 - Who the CEO and founder, Brett Kelly, is 00:04:27 - About the mission of Kelly Partners 00:06:53 - How the business model works 00:10:15 - How big the TAM is 00:26:12 - Whether AI is a threat or an opportunity 00:26:51- What the bull and bear cases look like 00:35:02 - What acquisition criteria Kelly Partners has 00:51:50 - How the financials work 01:03:07 - Whether Shawn and Daniel add Kelly Partners to the portfolio *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES The Investors Podcast Network is excited to debut a new community known as The Intrinsic Value Community for investors to learn, share ideas, network, and join calls with experts: Sign up for the waitlist(!) Sign up for The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Learn how to join us in Omaha for the 2026 Berkshire Hathaway shareholder meeting. Track The Intrinsic Value Portfolio. Shawn & Daniel use Fiscal.ai for every company they research — use their referral link to get started with a 15% discount! Anomaly Invest Article . Compound and Fire KPG Deep Dive. Compound and Fire KPG AI Article. Be Better Off Show. Explore our previous Intrinsic Value bre
Shawn O’Malley and Daniel Mahncke break down the emerging design giant Figma Inc. (ticker: FIG) and discuss whether the company can expand further into other enterprise design software verticals against Adobe. In this episode, you’ll learn how Figma burst onto the scene after three long years of toiling in the background, why Figma’s stock has crash 80% since IPO, and whether Figma’s stock is attractively priced at current levels. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:09:01 - Why the design process used to be so messy and disjointed before Figma came along 00:11:08 - How Figma was born out of a partnership at Brown University 00:28:53 - How Figma is turning from a single-hit product into a more diversified platform 00:36:51 - What Figma is doing to redefine the future of AI in collaborative design 00:52:06 - What to make of Figma’s young CEO, Dylan Field 00:54:32 - Why Figma crashed after its IPO 00:56:14 - How IPO-related stock-based-comp accounting distorted Figma’s 2024 & 2025 financials 01:03:54 - Whether Shawn and Daniel add FIG to their Intrinsic Value Portfolio *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES The Investors Podcast Network is excited to debut a new community known as The Intrinsic Value Community for investors to learn, share ideas, network, and join calls with experts: Sign up for the waitlist(!) Sign up for The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Learn how to join us in Omaha for the 2026 Berkshire Hathaway shareholder meeting. Track The Intrinsic Value Portfolio. Shawn & Daniel use Fiscal.ai for every company they research — use their referral link to get started with a 15% discount! Shawn’s meditation app made via Figma. Figma’s CEO on the future of design. Figma’s CEO on the In Good Compa
Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O’Malley take a deep dive into Duolingo — the leading language learning app with over 50 million daily active users and the chaotic green owl as a mascot. Since its IPO in 2021, Duolingo has expanded beyond language instruction to include math, music, and chess. The vision is to create the world's largest learning platform. Some people believe Duolingo will succeed and become a company worth hundreds of billions of dollars, dominating one of the largest and most profitable markets – education. However, the stock has fallen 80% from its highs, as the market views Duolingo as a potential target for AI disruption. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:05:51 - About the mission of the CEO and Founder, Luis von Ahn 00:08:29 - Why Duolingo was founded 00:10:34 - Why Duolingo works better than other apps 00:17:16 - About Duolingo's user numbers and growth 00:37:55 - Why the stock dropped 80% 00:40:55 - Whether AI is a threat or an opportunity 00:53:47 - What the bull and bear cases look like 01:18:11 - Whether Shawn and Daniel add Duolingo to the portfolio *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES The Investors Podcast Network is excited to debut a new community known as The Intrinsic Value Community for investors to learn, share ideas, network, and join calls with experts: Sign up for the waitlist(!) Sign up for The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Learn how to join us in Omaha for the 2026 Berkshire Hathaway shareholder meeting. Track The Intrinsic Value Portfolio. Shawn & Daniel use Fiscal.ai for every company they research — use their referral link to get started with a 15% discount! Duolingo Investor Relations. Explore our previous Intrinsic Value breakdowns: Uber,
Shawn O’Malley and Daniel Mahncke break down the ride-sharing giant Lyft Inc. (ticker: LYFT) and discuss whether the company can regain ground against Uber, or whether it’s always destined to be #2. While Lyft has clawed back some market share, finally attained profitability, and is now growing internationally, Shawn finds Lyft most interesting as a potential acquisition target for a company like DoorDash, Amazon, or Alphabet. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:02:18 - Why Lyft could be such an interesting acquisition target 00:11:58 - How the company has actually managed to regain market share versus Uber 00:13:36 - What Lyft did to achieve operating profitability for the first time this year 00:24:24 - How Zimbabwe became the inspiration for Lyft 00:31:30 - How Lyft’s co-founders used viral marketing to gain traction 00:32:05 - Why scrappiness is in Lyft’s DNA 00:33:14 - Why Lyft made sure to IPO before Uber 01:16:05 - How to think about modeling LYFT’s intrinsic value 01:19:00 - Whether Shawn and Daniel add LYFT to their Intrinsic Value Portfolio *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES The Investors Podcast Network is excited to debut a new community known as The Intrinsic Value Community for investors to learn, share ideas, network, and join calls with experts: Sign up for the waitlist(!) Sign up for The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Learn how to join us in Omaha for the 2026 Berkshire Hathaway shareholder meeting. Track The Intrinsic Value Portfolio. Shawn & Daniel use Fiscal.ai for every company they research — use their referral link to get started with a 15% discount! Learn how to join us in Omaha for the 2026 Berkshire Hathaway shareholder meeting. Acquired podcast’s coverage of the Lyft IPO. Lyft’s CEO
Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O’Malley take a deep dive into Constellation Software — the popular Canadian compounder that has turned buying “boring” vertical market software into one of the most effective capital-allocation machines in public markets. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:03:33 - How Mark Leonard founded Constellation 00:08:43 - What principles drive Mark Leonard 00:15:23 - What Constellation looks for in acquisition targets 00:19:20 - About the metrics that matter to Constellation 00:21:15 - How Constellation is structured and incentivized 00:46:26 - Whether AI is a threat or chance 01:04:50 - Why Constellation considers investing outside of VMS 01:08:50 - Whether Shawn and Daniel add Constellation to the portfolio *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES The Investors Podcast Network is excited to debut a new community known as The Intrinsic Value Community for investors to learn, share ideas, network, and join calls with experts: Sign up for the waitlist(!) Sign up for The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Learn how to join us in Omaha for the 2026 Berkshire Hathaway shareholder meeting. Track The Intrinsic Value Portfolio. Shawn & Daniel use Fiscal.ai for every company they research — use their referral link to get started with a 15% discount! WSB episode on Constellation Software. Synopsis Podcast on Constellation Software. Business Breakdown Podcast on Constellation Software. Mark Leonard Shareholder Letters. Saber Capital: How to Think about ROIC. Check out our previous Intrinsic Value breakdowns:
Shawn O’Malley and Daniel Mahncke break down Netflix (ticker: NFLX) and discuss whether the company has finally won the streaming wars. While growth looked challenged back in 2022, Netflix has proven resilient in the face of competition and economic slowdowns by leaning into advertising and password crackdowns, with much room left to run internationally. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:13:36 - How Netflix pivoted from mailing DVDs to streaming 00:14:48 - How Netflix killed Blockbuster 00:24:20 - Why the business works so well with two co-CEOs 00:46:25 - How being a first-mover got Netflix through the cash burn phase before any competition arose 00:48:29 - What Netflix is doing to sustain growth into the future 00:54:00 - What makes the company’s culture so legendary 01:04:18 - Why Netflix’s app just “works” better than the competition 01:18:03 - How to think about modeling NFLX’s intrinsic value 01:22:28 - Whether Shawn and Daniel add NFLX to their Intrinsic Value Portfolio *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES The Investors Podcast Network is excited to debut a new community known as The Intrinsic Value Community for investors to learn, share ideas, network, and join calls with experts: Sign up for the waitlist(!) Sign up for The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Learn how to join us in Omaha for the 2026 Berkshire Hathaway shareholder meeting. Track The Intrinsic Value Portfolio. Shawn & Daniel use Fiscal.ai for every company they research — use their referral link to get started with a 15% discount! Value Investors Club pitch on NFLX. The Acquired podcast’s episode on Netflix. Business Breakdowns’ podcast on Netflix. Check out <a href="http
Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O’Malley answer some of the most common questions about The Intrinsic Value Community. What exactly is it, who is it for, and how does it differ from simply listening to the podcast or reading the free newsletter? In this short episode, they explain why the Community was built, who the members are, and how it helps investors improve idea generation, decision-making, and long-term learning through thoughtful discussion and collaboration. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:01:04 - Why Shawn and Daniel built The Intrinsic Value Community 00:01:58 - How members generate, discuss, and refine investment ideas 00:02:28 - What makes the member base and discussions unique 00:03:39 - How learning, feedback, and accountability work inside the Community 00:04:34 - What role the Community plays alongside the podcast and newsletter 00:06:26 - And how to get involved when new spots open *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES The Investors Podcast Network is excited to debut a new community known as The Intrinsic Value Community for investors to learn, share ideas, network, and join calls with experts: Sign up for the waitlist(!) Sign up for The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Learn how to join us in Omaha for the 2026 Berkshire Hathaway shareholder meeting. Explore our previous Intrinsic Value breakdowns: Uber, Nike, Reddit, Nintendo, Airbnb, AutoZone, Alphabet, Ulta, John Deere,
Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O’Malley take a deep dive into Hermès — the family-controlled luxury house that has turned craftsmanship and scarcity into a compounding machine. Join Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O’Malley as they assess whether Hermès can remain the pinnacle of luxury and whether it deserves a spot in The Intrinsic Value Portfolio. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:01:10 - What makes a brand true luxury 00:10:35 - Why no one can copy Hermès 00:18:57 - How important local production and family ties are 00:20:26 - Why Hermès started producing bags 00:23:55 - How Hermès built its moat and reputation 00:39:22 - What markets matter most to Hermès 00:43:07 - How Hermès can keep growing 01:10:51 - Whether Shawn and Daniel add Hermès to the portfolio And much, much more! *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES The Investors Podcast Network is excited to debut a new community known as The Intrinsic Value Community for investors to learn, share ideas, network, and join calls with experts: Sign up for the waitlist(!) Sign up for The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Shawn & Daniel use Fiscal.ai for every company they research — use their referral link to get started with a 15% discount! Learn how to join us in Omaha for the 2026 Berkshire Hathaway shareholder meeting. Jean-Noël Kapferer's The Luxury Strategy. WSB Episode on Hermès. WSB Luxury Strategy Breakdown. Quartr Article on Hermès. Explore our previous Intrinsic Value breakdowns: Transdigm, <a href="https://www.
Shawn O’Malley and Daniel Mahncke break down Doximity (ticker: DOCS), known as “the LinkedIn for doctors,” with a suite of productivity apps supporting physicians’ workflows, too. Incredibly, 80% of physicians in the U.S. are on Doximity, giving them fertile real estate to monetize those eyeballs with high-margin advertising opportunities for pharma companies. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:00:22 - Why Doximity is so uniquely positioned to capitalize on pharmaceutical marketing 00:01:42 - How much of the U.S. health care system is still plagued by bureaucratic admin work, and the opportunity that creates for Doximity 00:03:40 - What makes Doximity’s ecosystem so useful for physicians at all stages of their career 00:10:32 - Why Doximity uses subscription-based advertising options 00:25:26 - How the company protects doctors’ privacy and saves them hours a week doing admin tasks with HIPAA-compliant generative AI tools 00:26:01 - How Doximity uses productivity tools to complement its social networking service 00:44:22 - The risks and moats of having a business so concentrated on one industry 00:56:17 - How to think about modeling DOCS’ intrinsic value 01:02:36 - Whether Shawn and Daniel add DOCS to their Intrinsic Value Portfolio *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES The Investors Podcast Network is excited to debut a new community known as The Intrinsic Value Community for investors to learn, share ideas, network, and join calls with experts: Sign up for the waitlist(!) Sign up for The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Shawn & Daniel use Fiscal.ai for every company they research — use their referral link to get started with a 15% discount! Learn how to join us in Omaha for the 2026 Berkshire Hathaway shareholder meeting. Check out Doximity Pitch on Value Investors Club. Doximity’s 2023 Shareholder Presentation. Doximity’s <a href="https://investors.doximity.com/overview/d
Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O’Malley take a deep dive into Meta — the world’s most powerful attention engine, spanning Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, and Messenger, and still driven primarily by advertising. They break down how Meta’s “Family of Apps” keeps compounding through better AI-driven content discovery and ad targeting, while new surfaces like Reels, Threads, and WhatsApp monetization expand inventory and improve the long-term revenue mix. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:04:02 - How much money the Metaverse failure cost 00:06:19 - How AR glasses could replace smartphones 00:23:48 - Why Reality Labs will likely yield average returns at best 00:29:50 - What AI efforts Meta is implementing 00:32:10 - Why Meta’s AI projects are not as bad as investors think 00:35:37 - How the ad engine works 00:41:31 - How WhatsApp and AI content could benefit Meta 00:57:06 - Whether Shawn and Daniel add Meta to the portfolio *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES The Investors Podcast Network is excited to debut a new community known as The Intrinsic Value Community for investors to learn, share ideas, network, and join calls with experts: Sign up for the waitlist(!) Sign up for The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Shawn & Daniel use Fiscal.ai for every company they research — use their referral link to get started with a 15% discount! Learn how to join us in Omaha for the 2026 Berkshire Hathaway shareholder meeting. Interview with Mark Zuckerberg. Google Glasses Article and Demo. MBI Deep Dives Work on Meta. News, Articles, and Updates: 9to5Google. Clay’s Meta Pitch in our WSB Episode. Explore our previous Intrinsic Value breakdowns: <a href="https://www.theinvestorsp
Shawn O’Malley and Daniel Mahncke break down Churchill Downs, Inc. (ticker: CHDN), a gaming company that is uniquely tied to the world of horse racing. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:02:48 - What makes the Kentucky Derby such a cherished event and a masterclass on luxury hospitality 00:05:30 - Why Churchill Downs is so much more than just a gambling company 00:07:54 - What to make of the surge in historical racing machines that are powering the company’s growth 00:17:22 - Why Churchill Downs gave up on mobile-app-based casino gaming 00:34:16 - How the company has used its relationships and lobbying powers to protect its business and even lower its taxes 00:38:18 - The risks and moats of entrenched gambling businesses 00:40:43 - What the future of horse racing looks like 00:45:09 - Why Churchill Downs is such an asset-heavy business 00:57:27 - How to think about modeling CHDN’s intrinsic value 01:01:21 - Whether Shawn and Daniel add CHDN to their Intrinsic Value Portfolio *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES The Investors Podcast Network is excited to debut a new community known as The Intrinsic Value Community for investors to learn, share ideas, network, and join calls with experts: Sign up for the waitlist(!) Sign up for The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Shawn & Daniel use Fiscal.ai for every company they research — use their referral link to get started with a 15% discount! Learn how to join us in Omaha for the 2026 Berkshire Hathaway shareholder meeting. 2023 Value Investors Club pitch for CHDN. 2025 Value Investors Club pitch for CHDN. Churchill Downs’ investor relations page. Explore our previous Intrinsic Value breakdowns: Uber, <a href="https://www.theinvestorspodcast.com/intrinsic-value-podcast/nik
Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O’Malley take a deep dive into Mercado Libre, the dominant e-commerce and fintech platform in Latin America. What started as an eBay-like marketplace has evolved into a fully integrated ecosystem spanning online retail, logistics, digital payments, lending, and advertising, with leading positions across Brazil, Mexico, and Argentina. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:10:28 - About Mercado Libre’s founding story 00:12:05 - How it won the e-commerce market 00:14:14 - How and why it built its logistics network 00:38:45 - What competitors are the biggest risk 00:46:51 - What flywheel is powering the business 01:00:50 - Why Mercado Pago is such a powerful business 01:07:59 - About Mercado Libre’s management and capital allocation 01:18:29 - Whether Shawn and Daniel add MELI to the portfolio *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES The Investors Podcast Network is excited to debut a new community known as The Intrinsic Value Community for investors to learn, share ideas, network, and join calls with experts: Sign up for the waitlist(!) Sign up for The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Shawn & Daniel use Fiscal.ai for every company they research — use their referral link to get started with a 15% discount! Learn how to join us in Omaha for the 2026 Berkshire Hathaway shareholder meeting. Listen to Management Podcasts. Read the Potential Multibagger Article on Mercado Libre. Tune in to the Business Breakdown Episode on Mercado Libre. Read the Substack Article on Mercado Libre. Check out the <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/financial-services/our-insights/the-rapid-evolutio
Shawn O’Malley and Daniel Mahncke break down Exor NV (ticker: EXO), a unique holding company that has acted as a vehicle for the family wealth of Fiat’s founder, but now poses a compelling arbitrage opportunity, with Exor’s stock trading at nearly a 60% discount to its net asset value. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00:00 – Intro 00:04:55 – How Ferrari became Exor’s largest investment 00:06:16 – Whether Exor actually offers discounted exposure to companies like Ferrari, Stellantis, and CNH 00:16:48 – What markets Exor is focusing on most now 00:19:45 – Why Exor trades at such a discount to its NAV 00:42:02 – Why Exor trimmed part of its Ferrari stake 00:45:01 – Why Exor is unlikely to be forced to realize its NAV by outsiders 00:51:03 – Why Exor reclassified itself from an industrial conglomerate to an investment company 01:00:11 – How to think about modeling EXO’s intrinsic value 01:09:24 – Whether Shawn and Daniel add EXO to their Intrinsic Value Portfolio *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES The Investors Podcast Network is excited to debut a new community known as The Intrinsic Value Community for investors to learn, share ideas, network, and join calls with experts: Sign up for the waitlist(!) Sign up for The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Shawn & Daniel use Fiscal.ai for every company they research — use their referral link to get started with a 15% discount! Learn how to join us in Omaha for the 2026 Berkshire Hathaway shareholder meeting. Check out the Interview with Exor’s CEO, John Elkann. Check out the 2020 Value Investors Club pitch on Exor. Read the 2011 book on the Agnelli family history. Explore our previous Intrinsic Value breakdowns: <a hre
Daniel and Shawn take a deep dive into Chapters Group — one of Europe’s most rapidly evolving serial acquirers of mission-critical software and services. They explore where the group’s growth is coming from, how the company allocates capital, and whether Chapters Group’s valuation is justifiable. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00:00 – Intro 00:06:56 – How Chapters Group was founded 00:09:20 – Why elite investors invest in it 00:14:09 – How their playbook for M&A works 00:20:55 – About the major long-term tailwinds behind their businesses 00:35:28 – How M&A is financed 00:46:14 – Why dilution is justified at this stage 00:50:39 – How the financials look 01:05:26 – Whether Shawn and Daniel add CHG to the portfolio *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES The Investors Podcast Network is excited to debut a new community known as The Intrinsic Value Community for investors to learn, share ideas, network, and join calls with experts: Sign up for the waitlist(!) Sign up for The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Joys of Compounding interview with CEO Jan Mohr. Chapters Group Half-Year Presentation 2025. TIVP Episode on TransDigm. Tresor Capital Research Article. CEO Mohr presenting at the Redeye Serial Acquirer Conference. William Thorndike’s book: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Outsiders-Unconventional-Radically-Rational-Blueprint/dp/1422162672?crid=2E5V3DG7KGVK7&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.uzbmDVFi19W7VOGJBeo4zVdmS5oeTNv4rEQ0eUslR7EFJJ59IAuIrYawbC_JJ12FUaXJgF0pf4i6Wzc_aNryblV4Ia6m6bPE0qsluP16HHviEdTAr1rxEXgzSTt5LtWvMAC9BPAH_63uWGQKdegqkNTuVjHNaxd20uqhSRG7Keh34Hy3pidANxRGiIKCH9nDyA6F0P1yhuJDuvuXSF8Psjwg7uC-D6yprCugh2NNNx4.iGF390PluKIT1tDi48wvVlRqRuDSaAnvhttL7_H9hNA&dib_tag=se&keywords=the+outsiders+book&qid=176490696
Shawn and Daniel break down Snap Inc., a camera-based social media platform with nearly one billion monthly users. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00:00 – Intro 00:08:25 – Why Snapchat, being a founder-led company, is less than ideal in this case 00:09:15 – Why Snapchat is unlikely to be acquired any time soon 00:17:49 – How Snapchat almost didn’t become a hit, and what made it suddenly so popular 00:39:24 – Why growth internationally is actually worsening Snapchat’s unit economics 00:45:12 – What to know about how the company is dipping its toes into artificial intelligence 00:48:01 – Whether subscriptions can save Snapchat’s business model 00:57:55 – Why it has been so much harder for Snapchat to make its unit economics work relative to peers 01:07:08 – How to think about modeling SNAP’s intrinsic value 01:07:29 – Whether Shawn and Daniel add SNAP to their Intrinsic Value Portfolio *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES The Investors Podcast Network is excited to debut a new community known as The Intrinsic Value Community for investors to learn, share ideas, network, and join calls with experts: Sign up for the waitlist(!) Sign up for The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Shawn & Daniel use Fiscal.ai for every company they research — use their referral link to get started with a 15% discount! Snap’s investor relations page. Acquired’s podcast coverage of Snap. Why Snap CEO Evan Spiegel is betting on smart glasses. Explore our previous Intrinsic Value breakdowns: <a href="https://www.theinvestorspodcast.com/intrinsic-value-podcast/uber-cash-burne
Daniel and Shawn review the Intrinsic Value Portfolio after nearly one year of searching for the best opportunities in the market. In this episode, they break down the portfolio’s current performance, share updates on existing holdings, and revisit watchlist companies that may now deserve a spot — either because they’ve become cheaper or their outlook has changed. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:01:15 - How the Intrinsic Value Portfolio performed 00:05:03 - How we think about Reddit’s price increase 00:11:33 - What way we found to invest in Ferrari 00:21:30 - Why Crocs has become even more interesting 00:36:25 - Why we are bullish on Uber 00:46:28 - How we think about our retail investments 00:58:57 - About the similarities between Salesforce and Adobe 01:14:16 - What we think of Ulta Beauty *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES The Investors Podcast Network is excited to debut a new community known as The Intrinsic Value Community for investors to learn, share ideas, network, and join calls with experts: Sign up for the waitlist(!) Sign up for The Intrinsic Value Newsletter to track our Portfolio. Last Portfolio Review. Our Free Newsletter. Our Free Podcast. Explore our previous Intrinsic Value breakdowns: Paypal, Ube
Shawn and Daniel break down DoorDash (ticker: DASH), America’s dominant meal-delivery company that’s rapidly expanding into all forms of local commerce. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:00:47 - How DoorDash came out of nowhere to become America’s leading meal-delivery service, usurping Uber Eats and Grubhub 00:07:57 - What opportunity DoorDash’s founders saw and the story of its origins as Palo Alto Delivery 00:10:26 - What DoorDash has done to finally crack the code of positive unit economics in restaurant delivery 00:19:21 - Why DoorDash is well-positioned to continue growing both domestically and internationally 00:28:41 - How a tipping scandal nearly destroyed the brand 00:16:21 - Why the COVID-19 pandemic was such a significant boon to DoorDash’s business 01:15:35 - The company’s approach to management comp 01:21:07 - How to think about modeling DASH’s intrinsic value *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES The Investors Podcast Network is excited to debut a new community known as The Intrinsic Value Community for investors to learn, share ideas, network, and join calls with experts: Sign up for the waitlist(!) Sign up for The Intrinsic Value Newsletter to track our Portfolio. Shawn & Daniel use Fiscal.ai for every company they research — use their referral link to get started with a 15% discount! Business Breakdowns’ coverage of DoorDash The Acquired podcast’s coverage of DoorDash Modern MBA on DoorDash and the myth of profitable food delivery Explore our previous Intrinsic Value breakdowns:
Daniel and Shawn dive into S&P Global – the data and benchmark giant that is best-known for the S&P 500 index. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:03:02 - About S&P’s Rating Business 00:03:56 - What businesses S&P Global operates 00:04:32 - About S&P’s Market Intelligence Business 00:07:54 - About S&P Global’s founding story 00:38:52 - About S&P’s Index Business 00:48:45 - About S&P’s Commodity Insight Business 00:58:10 - About S&P’s Mobility Business 01:03:45 - How S&P thinks about Capital Allocation 01:24:43 - Whether Shawn & Daniel add SPGI to The Intrinsic Value Portfolio *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES The Investors Podcast Network is excited to debut a new community known as The Intrinsic Value Community for investors to learn, share ideas, network, and join calls with experts: Sign up for the waitlist(!) Sign up for The Intrinsic Value Newsletter to track our Portfolio. Barron’s Interview with Former SPGI CEO Doug Peterson. S&P Global Investor Day Presentation 2025. TIVP Episode on MSCI. Explore our previous Intrinsic Value breakdowns: Paypal, <a href="https://www.theinvestorspodcast.com/intrinsic-value-podcast/uber-cash-burner-to-compounder-w-shawn-omalley-and-daniel-mahn
Shawn O’Malley and Daniel Mahncke break down Booking Holdings (ticker: BKNG), the world’s largest travel company. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:24:07 - What are the subtle differences between Expedia, Booking, and Airbnb 00:26:18 - How Booking.com established a foothold in Europe despite Expedia’s dominance in North America 00:55:59 - What Alphabet could do to seriously disrupt Booking 01:01:14 - How Booking uses price parity to protect its value-add to customers 01:03:56 - Whether Booking can be disrupted by AI 01:09:50 - About the flawed approach the company has taken with its management comp 01:19:04 - Why the global travel industry should continue to outpace GDP growth 01:22:09 - How to think about modeling BKNG’s intrinsic value 01:23:53 - Whether Shawn and Daniel add BKNG to their Intrinsic Value Portfolio *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES The Investors Podcast Network is excited to debut a new community known as The Intrinsic Value Community for investors to learn, share ideas, network, and join calls with experts: Sign up for the waitlist(!) Sign up for The Intrinsic Value Newsletter to track our Portfolio. Shawn & Daniel use Fiscal.ai for every company they research — use their referral link to get started with a 15% discount! Our colleagues Clay Finck and Kyle Grieve’s discussion of BKNG on We Study Billionaires. How Booking’s management thinks about stock-based comp. Interview with Booking's CEO on the promise of AI in travel. Booking’s CEO interview with Time Magazine. Explore our previous Intrinsic Value breakdowns: <a href="https://www.theinvestorspodcast.com/intrinsic-value-po
Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O’Malley dive into TransDigm — the aerospace supplier that turned “boring parts” into a compounding machine. Built around proprietary, often sole-source components installed across nearly every commercial and military aircraft in service, TransDigm monetizes decades of aftermarket demand through premium pricing and enviable margins. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:01:19 - What TransDigm does, and how was it founded 00:14:45 - What makes TransDigm’s founders and philosophy so special 00:18:05 - How TransDigm uses debt to leverage returns 00:34:34 - Why TransDigm is basically a monopoly 00:49:41 - What TransDigm’s M&A Playbook looks like 00:54:14 - Where future growth is coming from 01:16:15 - Whether TransDigm is fairly valued 01:20:06 - Whether Shawn & Daniel add TDG to The Intrinsic Value Portfolio *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES The Investors Podcast Network is excited to debut a new community known as The Intrinsic Value Community for investors to learn, share ideas, network, and join calls with experts: Sign up for the waitlist(!) Sign up for The Intrinsic Value Newsletter to track our Portfolio. Howley Interview with William Thorndike at the 50x Podcast. Clay’s Deep Dive into TransDigm Competitor Heico. Clay’s Interview with Niklas Sävås about Serial Acquirers. TransDigm 2024 Analyst Day Webcast. Explore our previous Intrinsic Value breakdowns:
Shawn & Daniel discuss how Robinhood transformed investing with commission-free trading, overcame controversies, and now aims to become a full-service financial platform through Robinhood Gold. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:00:40 - How Robinhood disrupted the entire brokerage industry 00:32:05 - How Robinhood can offer commission-free trading 00:05:34 - Why Robinhood Gold may be the financial services equivalent of Amazon Prime 00:46:55 - What makes Robinhood so well-positioned to capitalize on the passing down of wealth from Baby Boomers to Millennials and Gen Z 00:28:10 - How the company is revolutionizing finance again with prediction markets, fractionalized shares, 24/5 trading, stock tokens, crypto, and more 00:50:40 - What to make of Robinhood’s controversial CEO and co-founder, Vlad Tenev 01:30:03 - How to think about modeling HOOD’s intrinsic value 01:38:16 - Whether Shawn and Daniel add HOOD to their Intrinsic Value Portfolio *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES The Investors Podcast Network is excited to debut a new community known as The Intrinsic Value Community for investors to learn, share ideas, network, and join calls with experts: Sign up for the waitlist(!) Sign up for The Intrinsic Value Newsletter to track our Portfolio Shawn & Daniel use Fiscal.ai for every company they research — use their referral link to get started with a 15% discount! How Robinhood revolutionized retail investing (Quartr article) Vlad Tenev’s 2025 interview with Barron’s on the future of Robinhood Vlad Tenev’s interview describing the Robinhood super app to Ark Invest Robinhood’s 2024 Investor Day Vlad Tenev’s All-In podcast interview on stock tokenization and the future of fintech Derek Pilecki’s interview on <a href="https://www.theinvestorspodcast.com/episodes/quietly-compounding
Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O’Malley dive into Salesforce — the company that practically invented modern enterprise software and is now trying to reinvent it again through AI. From its origins as the pioneer of the Software-as-a-Service model in the late 1990s, Salesforce has grown into the world’s #1 CRM provider, powering customer relationships for over 90% of the Fortune 500. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:02:43 - What exactly Salesforce does? 00:03:49 - How Salesforce dominates the CRM market and revolutionizes AI Agents 00:10:23 - Who Founder and CEO Marc Benioff is and how he thinks 00:44:06 - How the management and executives are compensated and incentivized 00:47:08 - Where Salesforce’s moat comes from and whether it’s sustainable 00:53:29 - Where Salesforce invests its money 01:01:24 - Whether Salesforce is fairly valued 01:08:16 - Whether Shawn & Daniel add CRM to The Intrinsic Value Portfolio And much, much more! *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES The Investors Podcast Network is excited to debut a new community known as The Intrinsic Value Community for investors to learn, share ideas, network, and join calls with experts: Sign up for the waitlist(!) Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Dreamforce Conference 2024. Dreamforce Main Keynote 2025. Marc Benioff Interview at Lenny’s Podcast. VIC Article on Salesforce. Explore our previous Intrinsic Value breakdowns: <a href="https://www.t
Shawn O’Malley and Daniel Mahncke break down MSCI Inc. (MSCI), the global leader in financial market indexes that power the passive investing revolution. They explore how MSCI built its dominant, utility-like business model, its compounding potential, and whether the stock remains attractively priced. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00:00 Intro 00:03:08 How indexes produced by MSCI help to organize, simplify, and provide context for different aspects of financial markets 00:06:01 What makes MSCI one of the highest quality businesses we’ve ever looked at 00:12:05 Why MSCI has become the industry standard for indexes outside of the U.S. 00:14:27 Whether passive investing will be a boon going forward for MSCI, or if declining management fees in mutual funds will devastate the business 00:30:13 About MSCI’s relationship with major asset managers like Vanguard, BlackRock, and State Street 00:54:01 Whether direct indexing will disrupt MSCI’s golden goose 01:02:59 How to think about modeling MSCI’s intrinsic value 01:06:59 Whether Shawn and Daniel add MSCI to their Intrinsic Value Portfolio *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES The Investors Podcast Network is excited to debut a new community known as The Intrinsic Value Community for investors to learn, share ideas, network, and join calls with experts: Sign up for the waitlist(!) Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Shawn & Daniel use Fiscal.ai for every company they research — use their referral link to get started with a 15% discount! Podcast interview with MSCI’s CEO. MSCI Investor Relations’ page. Pitch for MSCI on the Value Investors Club forum. BuyBack Capital’s research on MSCI. Check out <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Outsiders-Unconventional-Radically-Rational-Blueprint/dp/1422162672?crid=LQTPQUGQCOSK&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.uzbmDVFi19W7VOGJBeo4z
Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O’Malley dive into Copart, the salvage auction company that’s quietly become one of the best-performing stocks of the last three decades. From a single junkyard in California in the 1980s, Copart has grown into a global online marketplace that sells more than three million vehicles a year. With sellers ranging from major insurers and rental fleets to car dealers and finance companies, and buyers spanning over 190 countries, Copart has built a platform that turns totaled cars into a surprisingly durable business. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00:00 Intro 00:01:12 How was Copart founded and what’s so special about the culture? 00:12:19 How does the competitive landscape look? 00:26:10 What are Copart’s competitive advantages? 00:36:48 What risks does Copart face through AVs and EVs? 00:52:48 What makes Copart’s management best in class. 00:58:47 What are the growth drivers and future business opportunities? 01:06:54 Whether Copart is attractively valued at its current levels. 01:11:03 Whether Shawn & Daniel add CPRT to The Intrinsic Value Portfolio. *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Sign Up for The Intrinsic Value Community. Related episode: Copart Deep Dive w/ Leandro and Clay. Related episode: Junk to Gold Summary on We Study Billionaires. Rijnberk Invest Article. Explore our previous Intrinsic Value breakdowns:
Shawn O’Malley and Daniel Mahncke break down Fair Isaac Corporation (ticker: FICO), a company whose algorithms are essential to computing credit scores, which are used in everything in the U.S., from applying for a mortgage, credit cards, apartments, to even job applications and more. FICO has incredible market penetration and earnings leverage, as almost all of its price increases trickle down to the bottom line, even though the cost of credit checks is typically a very small portion of the mortgage origination process, for example. In this episode, you’ll learn about how FICO came to dominate credit scoring in the U.S., how credit scores have made it possible for millions of people to access financing, why FICO’s industry-leading position is so rock-solid, whether FICO can still be a “compunder” going forward, and whether FICO’s stock is attractively priced, plus so much more! IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00 - Intro 15:35 - How credit scores helped to democratize access to credit 25:47 - What actually goes into a FICO score 29:08 - Why FICO has become the industry standard for credit scores 29:49 - About FICO’s relationship with the three major credit bureaus — Experian, Equifax, and TransUnion 30:19 - How the government helped solidify FICO’s moat, and whether that’s changing 55:12 - What makes FICO one of the most profitable businesses we’ve ever looked at 01:03:04 - How to think about modeling FICO’s intrinsic value 01:11:26 - Whether Shawn and Daniel add FICO to their Intrinsic Value Portfolio *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Sign Up for The Intrinsic Value Community. Business Breakdowns coverage of FICO. Check out the Value Investors’ Club Pitch for FICO. FICO’s investor relations page. Explore our previous Intrinsic Value breakdowns:
Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O’Malley dive into Manchester United, the legendary football club that’s grown from a 19th-century railway team into one of the most recognized sports brands on the planet. With revenue pillars in commercial sponsorships, broadcasting rights, and matchday income, plus a fanbase that spans every continent, United is often described as one of the biggest franchises in global sports. To frame the economics of the club, Daniel and Shawn also unpack the key differences between Europe’s open football leagues and the closed, franchise-based model of U.S. sports. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00 - Intro 06:04 - How Manchester United was founded 07:50 - What role investors play in European football leagues 11:55 - The differences between U.S. leagues and European leagues 37:19 - What role on-pitch performance plays for finances 43:39 - How Manchester United’s business model works 46:56 - What catalysts could close the valuation gap 51:02 - Whether Manchester United is attractively valued at its current levels 53:45 - Why sport franchises become increasingly valuable 01:01:51 - Whether Shawn & Daniel add MANU to The Intrinsic Value Portfolio *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Sign Up for The Intrinsic Value Community. Deloitte Football Money League. Annual Review of Football Finance. Interview with Todd Boehly. Madison Square Garden Sports Podcast. Explore our previous Intrinsic Value breakdowns: <a href="https://www.theinvestorspodcast.com/intrinsic-value-podcast/moncler-monc-zipped-for-success-w-daniel-mahncke-sh
Shawn O’Malley and Daniel Mahncke break down Universal Music Group (ticker: UMG), a company that controls a royalty stream on roughly ⅓ of the world’s music in an oligopolistic industry also dominated by Sony and Warner Music Group. Universal has incredibly high-quality earnings, with a very stable business and excess returns on capital — a recipe that is very appealing to investors at the right price. In this episode, you’ll learn about the economics of the music industry, how Universal creates value for artists, what the company is doing in response to AI, the mutually dependent relationship between labels and music streaming platforms, and whether Universal Music Group’s stock is attractively priced, plus so much more! IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00 - Intro 05:00 - Why royalties from the music industry are so stable 07:57 - How Universal Music Group makes money and supports artists 11:12 - How Universal operates as an oligopoly alongside Sony and Warner Music Group 20:24 - The economics of digital streaming 43:48 - Why Universal’s leading market share position reinforces its advantages 01:04:48 - About UMG’s unique business model as a serial acquirer of music catalogs 01:10:35 - How to think about modeling UMG’s intrinsic value 01:21:27 - Whether Shawn and Daniel add UMG to their Intrinsic Value Portfolio *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Sign Up for The Intrinsic Value Community. Shawn’s 2024 Millennial Investing episode on Universal Music Group. Shawn’s 2024 Millennial Investing episode on Spotify. Check out the Music Royalties 101 article. Bill Ackman’s presentation on Universal Music Group. Dive into Shawn’s past podcast on Disney for more on the power of belove
Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O’Malley dive into Berkshire Hathaway, the billion-dollar conglomerate built by Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger that’s grown from a struggling textile mill into one of the most valuable companies in the world. With core pillars in insurance, railroads, and energy, plus a $250 billion equity portfolio anchored by Apple, Berkshire is often seen as the ultimate compounding machine. Its decentralized structure, conservative balance sheet, and reputation for permanence make it unlike any other business in corporate America. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00 - Intro 06:15 - How Buffett took over Berkshire Hathaway 12:20 - How Buffett turned Berkshire Hathaway into an investment vehicle 20:22 - Why Buffett loves insurance businesses 26:22 - Why Buffett chose to invest in the energy business 47:51 - How Berkshire’s manufacturing business is set up 57:16 - What Buffett’s retirement will mean for Berkshire 01:00:08 - Whether Berkshire is attractively valued at its current levels 01:13:08 - Whether Shawn & Daniel add BRK to The Intrinsic Value Portfolio *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Sign Up for The Intrinsic Value Community. A Biography of Buffett: The Snowball. Semper Augustus Investment Letters. Warren Buffett Shareholder Letters. Adam Mead website. The Story of Berkshire Hathaway w/ Jacob McDonough. Berkshire Hathaway Discussion w/ Stig Brodersen and Chris Bloomstran. Clay and Kyle reflecting on the Berkshire Annual Meeting 2025. Explore our previous Intrinsic Value breakdowns: <a href="https://www.theinvestorspodcast.com/intrinsic-value-podcast/uber-cash-burner-to-compounder-w-shawn-omalley-and-daniel-mahnke/
Shawn O’Malley and Daniel Mahncke break down Match Group (ticker: MTCH), a company that operates as part of a duopoly in online dating, owning a number of dating platforms, including Tinder, Match.com, Hinge, OkCupid, and more, with specialized platforms appealing to certain demographics and dating niches. During the Pandemic, the company was a popular growth stock, but as the number of paying users at Tinder has declined, the business has stagnated, and the market has punished it severely. Yet, the company is still quite profitable, yielding a seemingly attractive valuation. In this episode, you’ll learn about the unique business behind online dating, why Match is having trouble resonating with Gen Z, how large the TAM is for online dating, the most important things the company is focusing on to reinvigorate Tinder, why Hinge may be the future of Match Group and online dating, and whether Match Group is attractively priced, plus so much more! IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00 – Intro 07:24 - What advantages Match Group has in its favor as the world’s largest online-dating company 29:05 - About Match’s origin story as a spinoff and its executive turnover 35:59 - The biggest structural challenges weighing on Match Group’s growth 44:44 - Why the senior dating market may be a growth engine for Match Group 46:50 - How Match Group operates and competes as part of a duopoly with Bumble 47:19 - Why investors are so weary of the online dating industry 01:03:18 - How to think about modeling MTCH’s intrinsic value 01:07:28 - Whether Shawn and Daniel add MTCH to their Intrinsic Value Portfolio *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Sign Up for The Intrinsic Value Community. Check out the Pew Research findings on online dating. Andrew Chen’s article on why investors don’t fund online dating. Gen Z dating and marriage stats. Explore our previou
Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O’Malley dive into Dell Technologies, the legacy PC giant that’s quietly become one of the largest suppliers of AI infrastructure in the world. Once seen as a low-growth hardware player, Dell now sits at the heart of the data center buildout — shipping billions of dollars worth of GPU-powered servers to customers like xAI, Meta, and Microsoft. With a growing AI backlog, enterprise trust, and deep global reach, Dell might be one of the most overlooked players in today’s AI cycle. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN 00:00 – Intro 01:09 - How Dell became a global PC behemoth. 5:27 - Why Dell managed to outcompete IBM. 10:56 - How Dell’s business is structured. 14:30 - Why the PC Market is struggling to grow. 20:36 - What role AI Servers play in Dell’s future. 47:23 - Whether Dell has a moat. 54:09 - How profitable Dell is and how it allocates capital. 01:11:15 - Why hardware is such a tough business. 01:14:11 - Whether Dell is attractively valued at its current levels. 01:14:11 - Whether Shawn & Daniel add DELL to The Intrinsic Value Portfolio. *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Sign Up for The Intrinsic Value Community. Norges Bank Interviews with Michael Dell. Dell Presentation on the AI PC Revolution. Jensen Huang, Michael Dell Interview on Nvidia and Dell Partnership 3rd Party Report on Dell’s Moat. Explore our previous Intrinsic Value breakdowns: <a href="https://www.theinvestorspodcast.com/intrinsic-value-podcast/uber-cash-burner-to-compound
Shawn O’Malley and Daniel Mahncke break down Ferrari (ticker: RACE), a company whose stock is arguably just as impressive as its high-performance and ultra-luxury vehicles. By global automotive standards, Ferrari hardly has any sales volumes, selling about 14,000 cars a year, yet these vehicles come with such premium price tags that the company can reasonably command a $90 billion market valuation still. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN 00:00 – Intro 09:27 - Why Ferrari obsesses over keeping supply below demand. 11:45 - Why Ferrari is more like Hérmes than Porsche. 16:27 - Ferrari’s response to the hybrid and EV movements. 30:35 - What makes Ferrari special amongst even other ultra-luxury vehicle makers. 33:53 - What it actually takes to buy a Ferrari, and how Ferrari chooses its customers. 42:40 - How Ferrari has created a long-term ownership culture amongst its clients, similar to the mindset among shareholders of Berkshire Hathaway. 48:05 - How to think about modeling RACE’s intrinsic value. 57:45 - The creative ways Ferrari has leveraged its IP to sell cars at higher and higher prices. 01:04:28 - Whether Shawn and Daniel add RACE to their Intrinsic Value Portfolio. *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Sign Up for The Intrinsic Value Community. Quartr Edge’s breakdown of Ferrari. Business Breakdowns’ podcast on Ferrari. Related episode: TIP711: Netflix, Ferrari, & Managing Market Volatility w/ Arif Karim. Guy Spier on Ferrari. K500 Classic Car Index. Explore our previous Intrinsic Value breakdowns:
Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O’Malley dive into Crocs, the footwear company that turned a ridiculed foam clog into a global fashion phenomenon. After a post-IPO collapse and years of overextension, Crocs has staged one of the most impressive brand comebacks in recent retail history — now fueled by strong margins, loyal customers, and bold international expansion. But there are still some challenges and risks. The HEYDUDE acquisition wasn’t successful yet, and the turnaround will still take time, and there are still reasonable doubts around the sustainability of the growth and fashion relevance of Crocs. In this episode, Shawn and Daniel unpack what’s driving Crocs' profitability, why its turnaround worked, and whether its Asia strategy could be the next big unlock. They break down the brand's unique mix of comfort and cultural cachet, the economics of Jibbitz and limited-edition drops, and how Gen Z’s shift toward athleisure might power a decade of demand. Along the way, they explore whether Crocs is a misunderstood compounder or a hype-driven value trap — and where the stock could go in a bull, bear, and base-case scenario. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN 00:00 – Intro 04:59 – How Crocs was founded 13:38 – Why Crocs almost went bankrupt in 2008 and how it survived 25:44 – What started the second hype cycle 28:35 – What its highly customized designs mean from a business perspective 32:57 – What role social media plays in Crocs’ success 41:31 – How the HEYDUDE acquisition hurt Crocs’ business 50:28 – About Crocs’ international strategy 01:04:23 – Whether Crocs is attractively valued at its current levels 01:09:18 – Whether Shawn & Daniel add CROX to The Intrinsic Value Portfolio *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Sign Up for The Intrinsic Value Community. Crocs 2025 Investor Presentation. Value Investor’s Club Pitch. Baird 2025 Global Consumer Interview with CEO. Explore our previous Intrinsic Value breakdowns: <a href="https://intri
Shawn O’Malley and Daniel Mahnke break down Lululemon (ticker: LULU), an iconic brand famous for pioneering the now ubiquitous athleisure industry. Lululemon has a fiercely loyal customer base, with industry-leading rates of repeat customers, sales per square foot of retail space, and very little need for discounting, if any. In this episode, you’ll learn about why the market has soured on this powerful brand, despite incredible success growing internationally, leaving its P/E ratio at a relatively low 15-16x. You’ll also learn about how Lululemon controls all of its touchpoints with customers, selling primarily DTC, as opposed to wholesale like Nike and Adidas do, as well as whether LULU is attractively valued today, plus so much more! IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN 00:00 – Intro 04:23 - Why Lululemon has such a cult-like following. 07:19 - What makes Lululemon products so special. 15:41 - How new competitors are challenging Lululemon on the margins. 20:59 - How the future of Lululemon may be defined by China and menswear. 26:48 - Why the setup for LULU stock may be even more attractive than Nike. 53:48 - What to know about possible yellow flags with the business, like its declining inventory turnover ratio and expanding cash conversion cycle. 01:01:57 - Why the company’s acquisition of the sports-tech hardware company, Mirror, failed so miserably. 01:07:15 - How to think about modeling LULU’s intrinsic value. 01:16:16 - Whether Shawn and Daniel add LULU to their Intrinsic Value Portfolio. *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Sign Up for The Intrinsic Value Community. Clay Finck and Kyle Grieve’s discussion of LULU on We Study Billionaires. How Vuori and Alo are taking on Lululemon. Explore our previous Intrinsic Value breakdowns: <a href="https://www.theinvestorspodcast.com/intrinsic-value-podcast/ube
Daniel & Shawn dive into Remitly, the digital remittance platform aiming to disrupt a $2 trillion global market. After years of prioritizing customer acquisition and corridor expansion over profits, Remitly is now approaching a critical inflection point, one where scale, margin leverage, and cash generation could unlock a new phase of investor confidence. But there are risks as well: crypto-native challengers, regulatory uncertainty, and broader concerns about the remittance industry all raise the question of whether the upside is worth the risk. Here, they unpack Remitly’s moat, including its direct payout network, risk engine, and customer trust, and assess whether these factors are enough to fend off cheaper, faster payment rails, such as stablecoins. They walk through the company’s unit economics and what the valuation model implies under both steady-state and high-growth scenarios. Along the way, they compare Remitly’s customer lock-in strategy to Booking.com, examine the remittance corridor dynamics in India, the Philippines, and Latin America, and debate whether this is a misunderstood fintech with enduring staying power or a product ripe for crypto disruption. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN 00:00 – Intro 01:08 – How the remittance market works 01:50 – Why Western Union struggles to compete with Remitly 02:16 – Why and how Remitly was founded 04:48 – What risks Remitly faces 05:01 – How stablecoins could disrupt the remittance industry 11:34 – What competitive advantages Remitly has 17:16 – What digital-first companies compete with Remitly 24:37 – Why scale is everything in the payments sector 27:56 – Whether Remitly is attractively valued at its current levels 29:27 – Whether Shawn & Daniel add RELY to The Intrinsic Value Portfolio *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Sign Up for The Intrinsic Value Community. Value Investor’s Club Article on RELY. Check out the Substack Article on RELY. Dive into Pernas' Research Artic
Shawn and Daniel break down The Trade Desk (ticker: TTD), a pure-play bet on the future of digital advertising, focusing specifically on supporting ad buyers who want to get the most value per impression across the so-called “Open Internet.” The Trade Desk has compounded its stock at 43% a year since its IPO almost a decade ago, and in that same period, it has grown revenues at an incredible rate of 50% a year. Learn about where TTD fits into the programmatic advertising ecosystem, why the company has fewer conflicts of interest than its competitors, how The Trade Desk is positioned to take advantage of antitrust regulatory enforcement against Google, what they’re trying to do to replace 3rd-party cookies tracking, plus so much more! Prefer to watch? Click here to watch this episode on YouTube. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN 00:00 - Intro 04:38 - What is TTD’s niche in programmatic digital advertising 11:58 - Who are the major players in the digital advertising landscape 12:16 - How advertising across the internet has evolved over time 31:36 - What is the “Open Internet” and how it differs from “Walled Gardens” 36:42 - Why TTD has built its own alternative to 3rd‑party cookies 45:22 - What needs to happen to realize TTD’s vision for the future of programmatic advertising 01:05:27 - Why regulators are taking action against Google’s ad management unit, and how TTD could benefit from that 01:16:38 - Whether Shawn & Daniel add TTD to The Intrinsic Value Portfolio *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Sign Up for The Intrinsic Value Community. Advertisers shift retail media spending beyond Amazon. The digital advertising ecosystem, explained. Check out Modernizing advertising with Trade Desk CEO Jeff Green. Read <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Zero-Peter-Thiel-Blake-Masters/dp/0753555204?crid=IMTUHG41NN8T&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.P0InJllcZrdkZCCLjx8fW_ynC_DCXDSBCKfRznNpdbxqsQUtn4A-
Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O’Malley dive into PayPal’s post-pandemic reset, tracing the fintech pioneer’s slide from market darling to value-story candidate. Once lifted by lockdown spending and eBay tailwinds, PayPal has seen its growth stall, its take-rate decline, and investors seem to have given up on it. In this episode, Shawn and Daniel unpack whether new CEO Alex Chriss’s “profitable growth” playbook, Fastlane one-click checkout, a margin-focused Braintree overhaul, and fresh bets on Ads and the PYUSD stablecoin, can restore momentum. They also debate how realistic PayPal’s ambitious goals for the future are, what a sustained 6% share shrink via buybacks does for long-term EPS, how the new management team is incentivized, and whether PayPal’s consumer moat still matters in an Apple-Pay world. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN 00:00 - Intro 04:38 - How PayPal became the No.1 payment provider and what the PayPal Mafia is. 09:47 - Why investors fell out of love with PayPal’s stock. 14:03 - What the next chapter under the new CEO will look like. 26:42 - Which new businesses could make PayPal dramatically more profitable? 33:31 - How the new strategy shows up in the numbers. 50:06 - Why the management incentive structure is a big benefit for shareholders. 51:36 - Whether stablecoins are bearish or bullish for PayPal. 01:01:11 - Whether PayPal is attractively valued at its current levels. 01:10:05 - Whether Shawn & Daniel add PYPL to The Intrinsic Value Portfolio. And much, much more! *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Sign Up for The Intrinsic Value Community. Emerging Value Substack Article. Crossroad’s Interview with Alex Chriss. PayPal 2025 Investor Day. The Reservist Article on the Payment Industry. Jimmy Soni’s Book on The PayPal Mafia.
Shawn O’Malley and Daniel Mahnke break down Roku (ticker: ROKU), an aggregator of digital content in the world of TV streaming, with a footprint in nearly 90 million households. Roku is the gateway to streaming, and its devices have famously turned any TV into a Smart TV, but now Roku does much more than that. In this episode, you’ll learn why the market has soured on Roku, how much its honeypot of first-party data could be worth, how Roku makes money for driving subscriptions to services like Disney+, how Roku is monetizing its uniquely positioned business, what has powered The Roku Channel’s surge toward ad-supported streaming dominance, plus so much more! Prefer to watch? Click here to watch this episode on YouTube. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN 00:00 - Intro 01:34 - How Roku is a unique combination of being like a streaming service, device manufacturer, and digital advertising exchange. 03:38 - Why Roku’s financials look so poor and why the market has soured on Roku post-pandemic. 10:21 - How Roku has been able to sustain its massive market share over competitors like Amazon and Google in connected streaming. 21:24 - Why Roku’s intrinsic value is so volatile given small changes in assumptions about its future. 23:21 - What makes Roku’s founder/CEO so special. 51:07 - Why Roku may be sitting on a gold mine of digital real estate. 01:00:01 - The biggest competitive threats facing Roku. 01:08:20 - Whether Shawn and Daniel add Roku to their Intrinsic Value Portfolio. And much, much more! *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Sign Up for The Intrinsic Value Community. Business Breakdowns podcast on Roku. Roku’s Q1 2025 shareholder letter. Jim Collins' book: Good to Great. CEO Anthony Wood on CNBC, discussing Roku’s Q4 2024 results. Explore our previous Intrinsic Val
Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O’Malley take a closer look at Estée Lauder’s turbulent turnaround, tracing the beauty giant’s fall from pandemic favorite to contrarian play. After years of strong growth, the company was hit by an inventory pileup, the collapse of China’s daigou shopping channel, and a broader slowdown in its most important market. In this episode, they explore whether the “Beauty Reimagined” strategy and the arrival of new CEO Stéphane de La Faverie can reignite growth through cost savings, better channel mix, and stronger appeal to younger consumers. Daniel and Shawn debate how realistic a turnaround is, whether the risk/reward resembles Nike’s recent playbook, and what needs to go right for Estée Lauder to reclaim its former strength. They also touch on wider beauty industry trends, the role of R&D as a competitive moat, internal tensions within the Lauder family, and the growing strategic weight of China for global fashion and cosmetics brands. Prefer to watch? Click here to watch this episode on YouTube. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN 00:00 - Intro 05:29 - How Estée Lauder built the beauty giant 13:42 - Why Estée Lauder’s business and stock fell so dramatically 27:22 - How Social Media and personal brands changed the beauty industry 14:03 - Why China played a major part in the company’s rise and fall 42:23 - How the family drama caused a management crisis 46:26 - How Estée Lauder plans to rise to the industry’s top again 55:08 - Whether Estée Lauder is attractively valued at its current levels 1:00:08 - Whether Shawn & Daniel add EL to The Intrinsic Value Portfolio *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Sign Up for The Intrinsic Value Community. Book on Estée Lauder: The Company I Keep – My Life in Beauty. Estée Lauder’s Investor Relations. Explore our previous Intrinsic Value breakdowns: <a
Shawn O’Malley and Daniel Mahncke break down LVMH (ticker: MC), an iconic luxury goods empire with brands ranging from Louis Vuitton to Moët, Dior, Chandon, Hennessy, Tiffany, Bulgari, and Tag Heur, among others. It’s a powerful conglomerate built by one of the world’s richest men, Bernard Arnault, known as the “wolf in cashmere” for his ruthless consolidation of power in the luxury industry. In this episode, you’ll learn how Arnault built the LVMH empire, what makes “true luxury” so special and different from other types of businesses, the parallels between LVMH and Berkshire Hathaway, what the backbone of this conglomerate is, whether there’s actually a backdoor way to buy LVMH shares at a 20% discount, whether the stock is currently fairly valued, plus so much more! Prefer to watch? Click here to watch this episode on YouTube. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN 00:00 - Intro 15:57 - How Arnault got his start and took control of LVMH. 20:56 - What inspired Arnault to build a luxury conglomerate. 24:05 - How LVMH benefits from economies of scale. 30:31 - Which brands drive business the most. 51:59 - What factors matter most in luxury purchases. 56:07 - What are the most important markets for luxury goods? 01:00:59 - Whether the backdoor way to buy LVMH shares at a discount is too good to be true. 01:08:03 - Whether LVMH is fairly valued and whether it’s added to the Intrinsic Value Portfolio. *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Sign Up for The Intrinsic Value Community. LVMH’s rich history of tradition and desirability. Business Breakdowns’ 2022 episode on LVMH. Acquired’s podcast on LVMH. Financial Times’ profile of Bernard Arnault. WSB645: The King of Luxury</stron
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