
The Autism Little Learners Podcast
Tara Phillips·177 episodes
You want to help your autistic students or child thrive — but it can feel overwhelming trying to figure out where to start. Whether you're wondering how to build connection, teach communication, navigate sensory needs, or support your paras… you're in the right place. Welcome to The Autism Little Learners Podcast, where compassion meets practical strategy. Host Tara Phillips, a speech-language pathologist with over two decades of experience, brings you neurodiversity-affirming insights, step-by-step tips, and real-world examples that help you feel confident, prepared, and inspired to support young autistic children. This show is relaxed, upbeat, and packed with actionable ideas you can...
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In this episode, we're talking about echolalia, what it really is, what it's doing, and why so many autistic children communicate this way. For years, many educators and therapists were taught to reduce echolalia or move children "past it." But research, autistic voices, and deeper understanding of gestalt language processing have helped shift that thinking in important ways. Echolalia is not meaningless repetition. It is communication. Today's conversation explores: what echolalia actually is the difference between immediate and delayed echolalia how gestalt language processors acquire language differently why scripts and repeated phrases often carry deep meaning what educators can do instead of trying to eliminate echolalia how to support communication in more affirming and responsive ways Because every echo carries meaning. And when we stop trying to eliminate it, we can finally start listening. In This Episode, You'll Learn • What echolalia actually is and why it matters • The difference between immediate and delayed echolalia • What Gestalt language processing (GLP) means • How GLPs acquire language differently than analytic language processors • Why scripts and repeated phrases often carry emotional meaning • Common signs a child may be a gestalt language processor • Why echolalia should not be treated as meaningless repetition • How echolalia supports regulation, processing, requesting, protesting, and connection • Why declarative language is often more supportive than constant questions • How to model language from the child's perspective • Why AAC and visuals can support clearer communication • How to shift from correcting echolalia to understanding it Key Takeaways • Echolalia is communication, not a behavior to eliminate • Many autistic children naturally process language in chunks or gestalts • Scripts often represent feelings, memories, or emotional experiences • The words a child says may not always be literal, but they still carry meaning • Questions can increase pressure for many gestalt language processors • Modeling without correction creates safer opportunities for communication growth • Pronoun reversals are often part of chunk-based language learning • Children deserve communication support that honors their natural language style • Curiosity and connection matter more than perfection Signs a Child May Be a Gestalt Language Processor E
In this episode, we're talking about something that often gets overlooked in early language development: symbolic sounds and exclamatory words. The "vrooooms," "uh-ohs," "wheees," and "mooos" that many children use before traditional words are not meaningless sounds. They are real communication. This conversation explores why these early sounds matter so much, especially for autistic preschoolers, minimally speaking children, and children just beginning their communication journey. We'll talk about: ● why symbolic sounds are often easier for children to produce than traditional words ● how exclamatory words help build joint attention and connection ● why modeling without pressure matters ● how these sounds support regulation, engagement, and communication ● simple ways to naturally model symbolic sounds during play and routines Because before words doesn't mean before language. Language is already there. In This Episode, You'll Learn • What symbolic sounds and exclamatory words actually are • Why sounds like "moo," "uh-oh," and "beep beep" count as meaningful communication • How symbolic sounds are often easier for children to produce than traditional words • Why these sounds are especially powerful for non-speaking and minimally speaking autistic children • How exclamatory words support joint attention and imitation • Why communication grows through exposure, not expectation • The importance of modeling without pressure or correction • How repetition supports language learning and regulation • Simple play-based ways to model symbolic sounds throughout the day • Why joyful connection matters more than perfect responses Key Takeaways • Language begins long before traditional words emerge • Symbolic sounds and exclamatory words are valid forms of communication • Early communication often develops through emotionally meaningful sounds and shared experiences • Joint attention and connection are foundational to language learning • Modeling language without press
In this episode, we bring everything together and move into the how. After exploring what deep interests are and why forcing engagement backfires, we now look at how to actually incorporate a child's deep interests to support meaningful learning. If you've ever planned a thoughtful activity only to watch a child walk away, this conversation will help you shift how you approach teaching. Instead of trying to pull children into activities that don't feel meaningful to them, we explore how to bring learning into what they already love. This episode walks through practical ways to embed deep interests into everyday classroom and therapy activities without turning them into rewards or using them as leverage. When we make the interest part of the learning itself, engagement becomes more natural, regulation is supported, and skills begin to develop in a way that feels safe and connected In This Episode, You'll Learn • The difference between using interests as a reward vs embedding them into learning • How to take one deep interest and apply it across multiple skill areas • Ways to support matching, fine motor, language, and literacy using interests • Why meaningful materials increase engagement without increasing pressure • How to model language during play instead of relying on questions • The role of connection before introducing learning opportunities • How to start small without overhauling your entire classroom • Why structure and child-led learning can coexist • How to rethink centers and classroom setup through the lens of student interests • The importance of following a child's lead to build trust and participation Key Takeaways • Deep interests can become the learning activity, not a reward for completing it • The skill stays the same, the materials and approach shift • Engagement increases when learning feels meaningful and connected • Language develops through modeling inside play, not through pressure • One interest can support multiple developmental goals • Connection must come before instruction for learning to be effective • Small shifts in materials can create big changes in participation • Structure and predictability still matter within a child-led approach • Classrooms feel more supportive when interests are reflected in the environment • Learning becomes more sustainable when it is rooted in what a child loves When we stop separating learning from what a child enjoys, we create opportunities for skills to grow in ways that feel natural, engaging, and meaningful.
In this encore episode, we're revisiting one of the most meaningful conversations from the early days of the podcast — a wide-ranging chat with speech-language pathologist Nicole Casey about gestalt language processing, echolalia, and what it really takes to support autistic communicators. What if the words a child is repeating aren't random? Gestalt language processing (GLP) is a natural way of acquiring language where children begin with whole strings of intonationally-defined language — often lifted from songs, shows, or meaningful moments — instead of starting with single words. These "gestalts" are not literal, but they carry deep meaning. And when we miss that meaning, we miss the child. Nicole walks us through what GLP is, how it differs from analytic language development, and how to recognize it even in non-speaking or minimally speaking children. We also get into something just as important: why connection, relationship, and presuming competence are the foundation that every strategy is built on. Without those, the techniques don't land. With them, even small shifts can transform a child's communication journey. This is a longer, story-rich episode — the kind of conversation where two SLPs who love this work just couldn't stop sharing examples. You'll hear about Toyota Tacomas, Downy Unstoppables, Peter the doll, "we all fall down," and a spin class playlist that included the Delta Airlines theme song. Every story carries a lesson worth holding onto. In This Episode, You'll Learn What gestalt language processing is and how it differs from analytic language development Why GLP is not a diagnosis, just another natural way of acquiring language How to identify gestalt language processors, including those who are non-speaking What echolalia, echopraxia, and "jargon" might really be telling us Why gestalts are non-literal and how to uncover what a child actually means <li class= "font-claude-respo
In this episode, we gently shift how we understand one of the most common challenges in classrooms and therapy spaces: low engagement. When a child walks away, refuses, shuts down, or pushes materials aside, it can feel confusing and frustrating, especially when you're trying to help them learn. But what if disengagement isn't defiance? This episode explores why forcing engagement through prompting, token systems, and increased demands often backfires, especially for autistic children whose nervous systems may already be overwhelmed. We walk through how traditional compliance-based approaches can unintentionally increase dysregulation and reduce trust, even when they are well-intentioned. Instead of focusing on how to get a child to participate, we reframe the question toward understanding what the child is communicating and what support they may need. You'll learn how to recognize disengagement as meaningful information, why regulation must come before learning, and how to shift toward connection-based strategies that actually support engagement over time. In This Episode, You'll Learn • Why disengagement is not defiance, but communication • What low engagement can look like across different children • Why increasing demands often leads to more resistance • How the nervous system responds to pressure (fight, flight, freeze) • What the "compliance trap" looks like in real classrooms • Why token boards and first-then systems can increase stress • The importance of presuming competence in every interaction • How ignoring communication can lead to escalation • Why regulation must come before participation • How deep interests can support meaningful engagement Key Takeaways • Disengagement is information, not a behavior problem • Pressure increases dysregulation, not participation • Fight, flight, and freeze are nervous system responses, not choices • Compliance-based strategies can unintentionally reduce trust • Communication should be honored in all forms • Regulation is a prerequisite for learning, not something to earn • Children would engage if they could, something is getting in the way • Deep interests provide a natural pathway into connection and learning • Small shifts in adult response can change the entire interaction • Connection builds engagement, not control When we stop trying to force engagement, we begin to understand it, and that's where meaningful learning starts. Try This • Pause instead of immediately prompting or redirecting • Ask what the child might be communicating in the moment • Observe signs of dysregulation before increasing demands • Lower the expectation to make the task feel doable • Replace questions wi
In this episode, we explore a powerful shift in how we understand one of the most recognizable traits in autistic children: their deep interests. If you've ever watched a child return to the same topic, object, or activity again and again with intense focus, you may have wondered whether it's something to redirect or expand. But what if the interest isn't the problem? This episode walks through why many educators and autistic adults are moving away from the term "special interests" and toward "deep interests," and why that language shift matters. We explore how deep interests are connected to monotropism, a different style of attention where focus goes deep instead of wide, and how that impacts learning, regulation, and engagement. Instead of viewing these interests as limiting or rigid, we'll reframe them as powerful entry points for connection, communication, and meaningful learning. You'll walk away with a clearer understanding of what deep interests are, why they matter, and how to begin noticing and supporting them in real classroom and therapy settings. In This Episode, You'll Learn • Why many professionals are shifting from "special interests" to "deep interests" • What monotropism is and how it shapes attention and learning • How deep interests support regulation and nervous system stability • Why deep focus is not a deficit, but a different processing style • How interests naturally expand over time when they are respected • The connection between flow states and learning in autistic children • Why removing an interest can disrupt regulation and engagement • How to begin identifying a child's deep interest through observation • The role families play in understanding a child's interests • Why unusual interests still hold meaning and value Key Takeaways • Deep interests are not a behavior to manage, they are a pathway to connection • Monotropic attention allows children to focus deeply rather than broadly • Interests often support regulation, not just engagement • Flow states provide intrinsic motivation without external rewards • Respecting interests supports communication and trust • Interests tend to expand naturally when they are honored • Removing an interest can unintentionally remove a regulation tool • The topic of the interest is less important than the relationship to it • Language shapes perception, and perception shapes support • Joy, focus, and regulation are valid and meaningful outcomes When we shift from redirecting interests to understanding them, we create space for deeper connection, stronger regulation, and more meaningful learning. Try This • Notice what the child returns to again and again • Observe what brings visible
In this episode, we continue the play series by talking about the gentle bridge from exploratory play into functional play. If a child loves dumping toys, spinning wheels, dropping objects, or lining things up, it can be tempting to rush toward "using the toy the right way." But functional play grows best when it feels safe, connected, and joyful. This episode explores how to support the shift from sensory-driven exploratory play into one-step and early multi-step functional play without turning it into a power struggle. Instead of forcing imitation or moving too quickly into adult-led teaching, we'll walk through how to build from what the child already loves by using regulation, connection, and one small expansion at a time. This conversation is especially helpful for educators, therapists, and caregivers supporting autistic children who are ready for the next layer of play but still need the sensory and emotional safety of familiar patterns. In This Episode, You'll Learn • What functional play looks like in practical, classroom-friendly terms • Why cause and effect is often the first bridge out of exploratory play • Why rushing the shift into functional play can create stress and resistance • The simple framework: Regulate → Connect → Expand • How to expand dumping, spinning, and "put in" play patterns • Readiness signs that tell you a child may be ready for one-step play • Why building multiple one-step actions makes pretend play easier later • How to keep functional play playful instead of turning it into drill work • Why goals should guide exposure rather than create performance pressure • How small expansions support long-term sequencing and symbolic play Key Takeaways • Functional play is the next natural layer after exploratory play • Cause-and-effect toys and routines often create the safest bridge • Regulation and connection need to come before expansion • One small variation is more effective than pushing a full new skill • Readiness cues help us know when the stretch is safe • One-step actions become the building blocks for multi-step and pretend play • Joy and emotional safety keep the brain open for learning • Development unfolds in layers and cannot be rushed When we focus on small bridges instead of big leaps, play expands in a way that feels safe and sustainable. Try This • Identify one exploratory play pattern the child already loves • Join the action before offering a new idea • Add one simple cause-and-effect variation • Model one clear one-step action like push, drop, or press • Pause and wait without adding pressure • Track which one-step actions the child enjoys repeating Sometimes the most meaningful progress comes from one tiny bridge built on something the child already trusts. Related Resources & Links Autism Little Learners Membership <a href= "http://www
In this episode, we continue the play series with an important reframe for educators, therapists, and caregivers: Exploratory play is not a problem to fix. It is a stage to understand. When a child dumps toys, spins wheels, mouths objects, drops items, or repeats the same action over and over, it can be easy for adults to feel pressure to stop it. But what if the behavior isn't the problem? This episode explores why exploratory play is a foundational stage of development, especially for young autistic children, and how repetitive sensory-driven play often supports regulation, motor planning, focused attention, and early cause-and-effect learning. Instead of rushing children into more "functional" play, we'll walk through how to understand the sensory and developmental purpose behind exploratory play and how to gently shape it into the next stage without removing what already feels safe. This conversation is especially helpful for classrooms and therapy spaces where dumping, dropping, spinning, and repetitive object play can feel chaotic but are actually providing important information to the child's nervous system. In This Episode, You'll Learn • Why exploratory play is a real developmental stage, not a behavior problem • What children are learning when they dump, spin, drop, or mouth objects • Why autistic children may remain in this stage longer • The difference between safe boundaries and eliminating play entirely • Why adult anxiety around "stuck" can lead to premature redirection • How exploratory play naturally becomes functional play through cause and effect • Why repetitive play often supports nervous system regulation • Supportive classroom shifts that make exploratory play feel safer and more intentional • How to expand exploratory play without taking away the joy Key Takeaways • Exploratory play is sensory-driven learning • Repetition helps the nervous system gather information and build predictability • Dumping, spinning, dropping, and mouthing are forms of information gathering • Regulation often needs to come before more complex play can emerge • Boundaries can shape play safely without removing the sensory experience • Cause-and-effect routines create a natural bridge into functional play • Classroom environments feel calmer when exploratory play is planned for • The goal is to respect the stage, not rush past it When we stop trying to "fix" exploratory play, we make space for regulation, connection, and authentic development. Try This • Observe what sensory pattern the child is repeating • Ask what need the repetitive action might be meeting • Create safe dumping, dropping, or spinning spaces in the classroom • Add one small cause-and-effect variation like a ramp, tube, or drop zone • Use boundaries that shape safety without removing the experience • Plan sensory-rich play intentional
In this episode, we continue the play series with one of the most common questions educators and caregivers ask: How do I help expand play without taking over? It can be tempting to jump in quickly when a child is lining up cars, spinning wheels, dumping toys, or repeating the same action over and over. But meaningful play growth does not come from control. It comes from connection. This episode explores how to gently widen play skills while still honoring autistic play as meaningful, sensory-rich, and deeply connected to regulation. Instead of redirecting repetitive or exploratory play too quickly, Tara walks through how to observe first, join gently, and add one small playful variation that keeps the child in the driver's seat. This conversation is especially helpful for educators, therapists, and parents supporting autistic children who are moving from exploratory play into functional and early pretend play. In This Episode, You'll Learn • Why exploratory play is a real and important developmental stage • The difference between expanding play and taking over play • How to use Observe, Wait, Listen before stepping in • Why joining repetitive play builds connection and trust • How to add one small variation without disrupting regulation • Ways to move from dumping and dropping into functional cause-and-effect play • How to layer actions to support more flexible play • Why repetitive play often serves emotional safety and predictability • How pretend play grows naturally from functional play • Why exposure matters more than enforcement Key Takeaways • Exploratory play lays the foundation for communication, regulation, and cognition • Expansion works best when adults observe before stepping in • Joining first communicates safety and respect • One small playful variation is more effective than a full adult-led storyline • Cause-and-effect routines create a natural bridge into functional play • Pretend play develops more easily when earlier stages are honored • Regulation cues help us know when the stretch is too big • The goal is to widen possibilities, not control outcomes When we expand from the child's existing play pattern, we support flexibility without disrupting joy. Try This • Observe the child's current play pattern before adding anything • Join the play by imitating their action first • Add one small variation like a sound effect, pause, or simple cause-and-effect moment • Expand one action into a second step, like car down ramp → crash • Think in layers by expanding toys, actions, and then combinations • Watch regulation cues to decide whether to keep stretching or step back Sometimes one small shift is all it takes to open the
In this episode, we begin a brand new series all about play with a foundational idea that challenges many traditional beliefs: Autistic play is real play. Not practice play. Not "pre-play." Not something that needs to be fixed before it counts. For many years, educators and caregivers were taught that certain types of play were more valuable or developmentally appropriate than others. But when we assume that only certain forms of play "count," we risk missing the meaning behind what children are already doing. This episode explores how autistic play often supports regulation, focus, and connection, and why honoring it is the starting point for building relationships and expanding play in meaningful ways. In This Episode, You'll Learn • Why traditional ideas about "correct play" can limit our understanding of autistic children • The qualities that actually define play, including intrinsic motivation and joy • How monotropic focus can support deep engagement and regulation • Why repetitive play, lining up toys, scripting, and sensory exploration can all be meaningful forms of play • How regulation and nervous system needs influence how children play • Why interrupting play too quickly can lead to dysregulation • The difference between correcting play and joining play • Simple ways adults can gently expand play without disrupting it • How visual supports can offer play ideas without creating pressure • Why people games can be powerful when children aren't interested in toys yet Key Takeaways • Play is defined by its qualities, not by how it looks • Autistic play often supports regulation, focus, and sensory organization • Repetition and deep focus are not deficits — they can represent engagement and immersion • When adults dismiss a child's play, they miss opportunities for connection • Joining a child's play builds trust and opens the door for expansion • Expansion should be offered gently rather than demanded • Visual supports can make play possibilities visible without forcing participation • People games create shared joy and connection even without toys When we shift from correcting play to understanding it, we create space for authentic connection. Try This • Observe a child's play without interrupting and look for signs of enjoyment and engagement • Join the play by copying what the child is doing rather than redirecting it • Model one small variation within the play without requiring imitation • Add simple visual invitations that show new possibilities without pressure • Try people games like peekaboo, chase, or movement routines to build connection • Focus on protecting joy rather than
Your visual schedule helps students understand the structure of the day. But what helps them understand what's happening inside each activity? In this episode, we explore mini-schedules, a visual support that breaks down the steps within an activity so students can see what they are doing right now, how much there is to do, and when the activity will end. Even when a daily visual schedule is working well, some moments of the day can still feel unpredictable or overwhelming. Mini-schedules provide clarity within those moments, helping reduce uncertainty and supporting participation. In This Episode, You'll Learn • The difference between a daily visual schedule and a mini-schedule • Why activities that feel open-ended can increase anxiety for some students • How mini-schedules help make the beginning, middle, and end of an activity visible • Which classroom activities benefit most from mini-schedules • How to visually track progress through an activity as each step is completed • The difference between first/then boards and compliance-based reward systems • How to use first/then as a simple visual sequence rather than a behavioral tool • When to expand beyond first/then into multi-step visual sequences • The difference between mini-schedules and visual sequences for routines • How to begin introducing mini-schedules in your classroom or therapy space Key Takeaways • Visual schedules outline the day, but mini-schedules clarify what is happening within each activity • When activities feel endless or undefined, a child's nervous system may stay on edge • Mini-schedules make the structure of an activity visible and predictable • Seeing progress through an activity helps students tolerate the middle of the task • First/then boards work best when used as neutral sequencing tools rather than reward systems • Mini-schedules are flexible and change depending on the activity • Visual sequences support routines that happen the same way every time • Adding visual structure within activities can reduce anxiety and increase participation When students can see where an activity begins and ends, the experience becomes more manageable. Try This • Choose one activity that tends to feel difficult or unpredictable for students • Break the activity into 3–5 visible steps and create a simple mini-schedule • Visibly mark each step as it is completed by removing, covering, or moving the icon • Try using a mini-schedule during circle time, art, music, or small group activities • Use first/then boards as a visual sequence rather than a reward structure • Post visual sequences for routines like handwashing, arrival, or getting dressed Small layers of visual clarity can significantly reduce uncertainty during activities. Related Resources & Links Autism Little Learners Membership: <a href= "http://www.autismlittlelearners.com/pod
What if the reason a visual schedule "isn't working"… isn't because the child can't use visuals. What if the real issue is that one small piece of the system needs adjusting? In this episode, we walk through the most common reasons visual schedules fall apart in classrooms and therapy spaces. From schedule length to symbol clarity to how the schedule is introduced, small adjustments can make a big difference. Instead of abandoning visual schedules altogether, this episode offers a troubleshooting lens. Because when the schedule fits the child's developmental level and nervous system capacity, it becomes a powerful support for transitions, predictability, and independence. In This Episode, You'll Learn • Why children sometimes treat visual schedules like choice boards • How highlighting the "now" activity can reduce confusion and meltdowns • When a schedule may simply be too long for a child's current processing capacity • How to recognize when symbols aren't meaningful yet • Why real photos or functional objects can sometimes work better than clipart • The role of matching symbols to locations to strengthen comprehension • How schedule delivery (bringing the picture vs. walking to the schedule) can change engagement • Why modeling the schedule matters more than quizzing children about it • How nervous system load and transition stress affect how schedules are received • Why visual schedules should be adjusted, not abandoned, when they aren't working Key Takeaways • When a visual schedule isn't working, it's usually a mismatch in design — not a child's inability to use visuals • Grabbing future icons often means a child doesn't yet understand sequence • Shortening a schedule can build comprehension and reduce overwhelm • Symbols must connect to real experiences in order to be meaningful • Matching symbols to destinations helps children understand what visuals represent • The way a schedule is delivered can either reduce or increase transition stress • Visual schedules are environmental supports, not comprehension tests • Adjusting one variable at a time allows you to see what actually helps Small refinements can transform a schedule from something children ignore… into something they rely on. Try This • If a child grabs future icons, highlight the "now" activity with a visual anchor or shorten the schedule • If a child ignores the schedule, try moving to less abstract symbols such as real photos or functional objects • Add matching symbols at activity locations so children can connect the picture to the destination • Experiment with bringing the "next" picture to the child instead of requiring them to walk to the schedule • Model the schedule calmly instead of asking comprehension questions • If transitions feel tense, pause and consider the child's regulation and overall load Sometimes the smallest adjustment can com
What if the reason your visual schedule isn't working… isn't because the child "doesn't respond to visuals"… but because the symbols you chose aren't meaningful to them yet? In this episode, we'll explore something that often gets overlooked in conversations about visual schedules: symbol selection. Because not all pictures are created equal. We talk through the continuum from less abstract to more abstract symbols, how to recognize when a symbol isn't connecting, and how to adjust in ways that increase clarity instead of frustration. This isn't about making your visuals look better. It's about making them meaningful. In This Episode, You'll Learn • Why symbol selection is just as important as schedule length • The continuum from functional objects to written words • Why some clipart icons are more abstract than we realize • Signs that a symbol may not yet be meaningful to a child • When to shift from line drawings to real photographs • When functional objects can act as both a symbol and a transition bridge • The difference between miniature objects and functional objects • How to use baskets or containers for object-based schedules • How to gradually move along the abstraction continuum • Why observation is your most valuable data point Key Takeaways • A visual schedule only works if the child understands what the symbol represents • "They don't get visuals" often means the symbol is too abstract • Real photos reduce abstraction and increase familiarity • Functional objects can reduce the gap between "what's next" and "what do I do" • It's okay to mix clipart, photos, and objects • Symbol selection is a process, not a one-time decision • Meaning matters more than aesthetics • When symbols are meaningful, transitions soften and anticipation grows Try This • Observe whether the child orients to the schedule without prompting • Notice if they can match the symbol to the location or activity • If clipart isn't connecting, try a real photograph of your actual classroom space • If photos still feel abstract, experiment with a functional object • Increase picture size if a child isn't visually attending • Focus on meaning over uniformity Small adjustments in abstraction can completely change how a schedule functions. Related Resources & Links Autism Little Learners Membership: www.autismlittlelearners.com/pod
What if the reason a visual schedule "isn't working" isn't because the child can't handle it — but because we've accidentally made it too big… or too small… or too adult-centered? In this episode, we'll unpack one of the most common questions educators ask: "How long should a visual schedule be?" And the answer isn't about minutes. It's about nervous systems. Together, we explore how schedule length impacts regulation, why longer isn't always better, and how to adjust visual supports in ways that reduce cognitive load instead of increasing it. Because visual schedules are not about endurance. They are about safety and predictability. In This Episode, You'll Learn Why visual schedule length is about regulation — not stamina How full-day schedules can unintentionally increase cognitive load The signs that a schedule may be too long for a child's window of tolerance Why shortening a schedule is not lowering expectations How nervous system capacity changes across the day, week, and school year When to use full-day schedules, half-day schedules, or now-and-next boards How delivery matters — including when to bring the schedule to the child Practical ways to gradually increase schedule length over time How responsive adjustments build independence more effectively than pressure Key Takeaways Visual schedules are regulation supports, not compliance tools Longer does not automatically mean better Too much future information can overwhelm a child's nervous system Shorter schedules increase success and build capacity safely The right length can change depending on the day or environment Differentiation within one classroom is good teaching Growth happens within the window of tolerance Safety and predictability support independence Try This Observe how a child responds when they first see the schedule — calm orientation or visible stress Experiment with reducing the number of icons for one student and monitor regulation Try a "now and next" format for a child who struggles with anticipation Consider whether the schedule should stay on the wall or travel to the child Only expand schedule length when the current level feels completely regulated Small, thoughtful adjustments can shift an entire day. Related Resources & Links Autism Little Learners Membership: www.autismlittlelearners.co
What if AAC feels heavy in your classroom, not because you're doing it wrong — but because you've been carrying pressure that was never meant to be there? In this episode, we reflect on what unfolded during AAC Bootcamp and explore the invisible weight educators, SLPs, and caregivers often carry when supporting AAC users. From second-guessing modeling to worrying about prompt dependency, progress monitoring, and team hesitation, this conversation gently reframes what AAC is actually meant to be. AAC is not about performance. It is about exposure. You'll hear real classroom examples of what modeling without expectation looked like in action, what shifted when adults removed pressure, and how teams began moving from urgency to presence. This episode centers regulation, access, and sustainability — because support works best when it fits daily life. In This Episode, You'll Learn • Why AAC often feels fragile or intimidating in school settings • The hidden performance pressure educators carry around communication • The difference between modeling for exposure and modeling for output • What modeling without expectation actually looks like in real routines • Why slow AAC growth is expected — and meaningful • How core boards increase language visibility across the classroom • What changes when devices become part of classroom culture • How to support paraprofessionals and team members in feeling confident with AAC • Why advocacy increases when educators feel clear and grounded • How shifting from outcomes to opportunities changes everything Key Takeaways • AAC is not about performance — it is about exposure • Modeling without expectation reduces pressure and builds trust • Communication grows through consistent, low-pressure modeling • Slow progress does not mean ineffective support • When nervous systems are supported, learning becomes possible • Language should be visible and available across routines • Confidence across teams increases access for students • Culture shifts happen when adults align around shared understanding • Access reduces pressure Try This • Choose one daily routine — snack, art, sensory bins, or transitions — and model one or two core words naturally without pausing for imitation • Place one core board in a high-use area to increase visual exposure • Share this phrase with your team: "We're modeling for exposure, not performance." • Focus on consi
For years, autistic play has been misunderstood, redirected, or even discouraged. But what if the very things we've been trying to "fix" are actually authentic expressions of joy, regulation, and connection? In this replay of my powerful conversation with nationally recognized pediatric SLP, speaker, and neurodiversity-affirming advocate Cari Ebert, we explore why autistic play is real play — and why honoring it changes everything. Together, we unpack deep interests, regulation-first teaching, expanding play without pressure, and what it truly means to presume competence. This episode will gently challenge old assumptions and give you practical, relationship-based strategies you can use right away. In This Episode, You'll Learn Why autistic children play differently — and why different doesn't mean wrong The difference between wide interests and deep interests How honoring deep interests builds meaningful connection and communication What "regulate, reach, teach" looks like in real classrooms and therapy sessions Why compliance-based approaches often lead to dysregulation How to expand play schemes without pressure or power struggles What it truly means to presume competence Why autistic joy deserves to be protected and celebrated Key Takeaways Autistic play is authentic play Different does not mean deficient Connection builds communication Regulation must come before instruction Behavior is communication, especially during dysregulation Deep interests are powerful pathways to learning Presuming competence can unlock incredible potential Honor autistic joy Try This Choose one child this week and intentionally shift your lens. Observe their deep interest without interrupting or redirecting Join their play through parallel play — without an agenda Model one small expansion (no pressure, no hand-over-hand) Adjust one environmental factor to support regulation Reframe one "behavior" by asking: What is the why behind this? Small shifts in perspective can create big shifts in connection. Related Resources & Links Cari Ebert's book: The Learning to Learn Program <p dir="ltr" role="present
Winter often brings changes in schedules, energy levels, and tolerance — and when the world outside the classroom feels less predictable, nervous systems feel it. This episode focuses on supporting regulation and emotional safety when routines feel harder to maintain. In this episode, we explore how disrupted routines, stress outside of school, and unpredictable changes can impact regulation for autistic children. So often, these moments are framed as behavior issues or skill challenges. But when we shift toward regulation, predictability, and connection, we begin to see changes in: regulation engagement communication emotional safety This conversation is grounded in real classrooms and real constraints, with practical strategies educators and caregivers can use right away. In This Episode, You'll Learn Why regulation is the foundation for learning and communication How disrupted routines and outside stressors often show up in children's nervous systems first What co-regulation really means and why it comes before self-regulation How predictable routines reduce cognitive load and support emotional safety Practical classroom strategies using visuals, sensory supports, and calming sequences Why behavior is often communication rather than defiance or choice Key Takeaways Regulation supports learning Predictability creates safety Co-regulation happens through presence, not pressure Access matters more than performance Small, consistent shifts matter more than perfection Support works best when it fits real classrooms Try This Choose one routine or moment this week to focus on. <p dir="ltr" role="presentat
In this episode, we're talking about what truly changes when AAC is modeled all day—not just during instruction, but during play, routines, transitions, and real-life moments. So often, AAC is treated as something that happens only at the table or during therapy. But when modeling AAC becomes part of the entire day, communication shifts from a task to a relationship. This episode explores how modeling AAC without expectation builds regulation, engagement, trust, and spontaneous communication over time. In this episode, you'll learn: What "all-day AAC modeling" actually means (and what it doesn't) Why modeling AAC throughout the day supports regulation and engagement How modeling without expectation reduces pressure for kids and adults Examples of AAC use during play, routines, and transitions Why AAC devices and core boards should be available beyond instruction How consistent modeling supports spontaneous communication Why relationships grow stronger when communication is modeled relationally Common reasons adults stop modeling AAC—and why consistency matters Key takeaways: Modeling AAC all day means access across the entire day Communication grows through exposure, not pressure Modeling without expectation builds safety and trust AAC works best when it's part of daily life, not a special activity Try this today: Choose one routine (snack, play, or transitions) and commit to modeling AAC there for a week Model on a core board or AAC device without prompting or expecting a response Notice engagement, connection, and regulation—not how many buttons are pressed Want support modeling AAC all day? If you want to feel more confident using AAC beyond structured moments, you don't have to figure it out alone.<
In this episode, we're unpacking a common—and harmful—myth in autism and AAC support: the idea that communication must be earned. You'll hear why treating AAC as a reward makes regulation harder, not easier—and how unconditional access to communication supports regulation, trust, and participation, especially during autism meltdowns. This episode reframes AAC as access, not a behavior strategy, and offers practical ways to support communication during real-life moments of distress. In this episode, you'll learn: Why AAC should never be used as a reward How communication and regulation are deeply connected in autism What happens when AAC is removed during autism meltdowns Common autism meltdown causes related to communication breakdown Why withholding an AAC device can increase distress and shutdown How AAC supports self-advocacy and emotional safety What modeling AAC during dysregulation can look like (without pressure) How shifting adult mindset changes long-term outcomes Key takeaways: Communication is a basic human right, not something children earn AAC supports regulation instead of waiting for it Withholding communication can increase meltdowns and reduce trust Modeling AAC without expectation builds safety and access Try this today: Keep the AAC device available during moments of frustration or distress Model one regulation-related word (help, stop, or all done) without expecting a response Honor protests and communication attempts as meaningful Want support using AAC with confidence? If you're realizing AAC has been used conditionally—or you're unsure how to support communication during hard moments—you're not alone. My <a href= "https://autismlittlelearners.lpages.c
In this episode, we're talking about the powerful connection between AAC and dysregulation—and why regulation is access to communication. So often, AAC is treated as a skill kids are expected to use only when they're calm and regulated. But when a child is dysregulated, overwhelmed, or in survival mode, accessing any form of communication—spoken or AAC—is incredibly hard. This episode reframes AAC as an access tool, not a reward, and explores what it really means to support communication during hard moments. In this episode, you'll learn: Why AAC use often breaks down during dysregulation How the nervous system impacts access to communication Why "calm first, communication later" is a harmful myth How AAC can support regulation, not wait for it What happens when AAC is removed during meltdowns Why consistent AAC access builds trust and reduces frustration How to model AAC during dysregulation without pressure or expectation Simple shifts that make AAC more accessible across the day Key takeaways: Dysregulation limits access to communication for all children AAC should be available during hard moments—not withheld Communication supports regulation; it's not something kids earn Modeling AAC without expectation builds trust and long-term access Try this today: Keep AAC available during moments of dysregulation, even if it's not used Model one regulation-related word (like help, stop, or all done) without expecting a response Notice engagement and trust before output—communication grows from safety Want support making AAC truly accessible? If AAC has only been used during calm or structured moments, you're not alone. My AAC visuals and <a href= "https://autismlittlelearners.lpages.
In this special episode, Tara sits down with her friend and collaborator Sarah Habib from The Calm Caterpillar to share some exciting news—you're hearing it here first! Together, they've written a brand-new book, The Mindfulness Guide for Neurodivergent Learners, and this conversation takes you behind the scenes of how it came to life and why it's so needed. This episode is a must-listen for educators, therapists, and parents who want practical, neurodiversity-affirming strategies to support regulation, transitions, and connection—without compliance-based approaches. About the Book The Mindfulness Guide for Neurodivergent Learners is a 90-page, full-color, action-oriented guide designed to be: Easy to read and visually supportive Practical and immediately usable in classrooms and homes Grounded in neurodiversity-affirming, non-compliance-based practices The book includes: Real classroom photos and examples Scripts you can actually use Visual supports and calming strategies QR codes for free downloadable resources Tools for co-regulation, not just "self-regulation" Ideas for supporting transitions, calm corners, sensory needs, and deep interests What You'll Hear in This Episode How the idea for the book started (spoiler: it began with a simple message ☺️) Why regulation is the foundation for learning, connection, and communication The importance of modeling regulation strategies as adults Why mindfulness strategies should be practiced in a regulated state <li data-start="2013" data-en
Today we're talking about one of my favorite tools for supporting autistic preschoolers — visual schedules. These simple supports can make transitions smoother, reduce anxiety, and help kids feel safe and confident as they move through their day. I'll share a quick story from the classroom and break down why visual schedules work so well, especially for our autistic little learners. Show notes: ● Why visual schedules are one of the most effective supports for autistic preschoolers ● A real classroom story about a child who struggled with transitions until a one-picture schedule changed everything ● How visual schedules create predictability and reduce anxiety ● Why spoken language disappears — and visuals don't <span lang="EN"
In this replay episode, I'm thrilled to bring back one of the most impactful conversations I've ever had on the podcast — my interview with Dr. Barry Prizant, world-renowned speech-language pathologist and author of the groundbreaking book Uniquely Human. Our discussion gets to the heart of why the field of autism education is shifting away from compliance-based, behavior-focused models and toward approaches rooted in compassion, emotional regulation, and trusting relationships. Dr. Prizant shares powerful insights about: ✨ understanding autistic behaviors as meaningful human responses ✨ how storytelling has shaped his work and shaped Uniquely Human ✨ why reflective practice is essential in our classrooms ✨ and how listening to autistic voices is helping reshape "what works" in autism education We also dig into topics like echolalia, the SCERTS model, relationship-based intervention, non-speaking communication, and why honoring a child's intuition and individuality is more effective—and more humane—than rigid compliance. This conversation left me feeling inspired, energized, and hopeful about where autism education is heading… and I know it will do the same for you. Bio Barry M. Prizant, PhD, CCC-SLP is recognized as among the world's leading scholars on autism and as an innovator of respectful, person- and family-centered approaches. He is Director of Childhood Communication Services, Adjunct Professor of Communicative Disorders at the University of Rhode Island, and has fifty years of experience as an international consultant and researcher. Barry has published five books, 150 articles/chapters, and is co-author of The SCERTS Model, now being implemented internationally. He was a two-time featured presenter at the UN World Autism Awareness Day, with more than 1000 presentations internationally. Barry's book Uniquely Human: A Different Way of Seeing Autism (2022) is the best-selling book on autism since 2015, published in 26 languages and ranked by Book Authority as #1 of the "100 best books on autism of all time". Barry co-hosts a podcast, Uniquely Human: The Podcast, with his friend, Dave Finch, an autistic audio engineer. Dr. Barry Prizant's Links: Website: https://barryprizant.com/ Uniquely Human Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/uniquely-human-the-podcast/id1532460901 Uniquely Human Book: https://amzn.to/4e5VWZN The Scerts Model Books: https://amzn.to/4kFpbF5 DRBI (Developmental Relationship-Based Intervention) Interview: <a href= "https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/uniquely-human-the-podcast/id15324609
This episode is back as a replay because the conversation is still incredibly relevant—and the questions around PECS and AAC haven't gone away. In this episode, we take a thoughtful, nuanced look at the Picture Exchange Communication System (PECS) and its role in supporting autistic communication. While PECS has been widely used for decades, growing research, lived experience, and neurodiversity-affirming practice are prompting professionals to ask deeper questions about autonomy, flexibility, and what true communication really looks like. I'm joined by speech-language pathologists Paulina Elias and Dr. Amanda Blackwell from Natural Communication for a powerful discussion about how PECS originated, what it does well, and where it can fall short—especially when communication is limited to requesting or tightly controlled exchanges. We explore why many clinicians are shifting toward multimodal, child-led AAC approaches that support regulation, self-expression, and authentic connection. You'll hear us unpack topics like honoring a child's right to say "no," moving away from hand-over-hand prompting, and choosing communication tools that grow alongside a child rather than restricting them. Whether you're a parent, educator, or therapist, this replay episode offers updated perspectives that may challenge old assumptions—and help you feel more confident in supporting communication that is respectful, functional, and truly empowering. 🎥 Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Tu4rKeAM0dc 📖 Read the blog here: https://autismlittlelearners.com/pecs-autism/ Key Takeaways PECS was developed in the 1980s as a structured system rooted in behavior-based principles and primarily supports requesting. Communication is more than asking for wants—autistic children deserve access to tools that support commenting, protesting, refusing, and expressing feelings. Rigid communication systems can unintentionally limit autonomy and authentic self-expression. Hand-over-hand prompting raises concerns about consent and agency; hand-under-hand support allows for greater learner control. AAC should be multimodal, flexible, and adaptable to a child's evolving communication needs. Children must have the freedom to say "no" and communicate disagreement in order for communication to be meaningful. <p di
This episode is back by popular demand—and for good reason. One of the most requested and talked-about conversations on The Autism Little Learners Podcast, this replay dives into Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) with licensed psychologist Dr. Taylor Day. In this episode, we explore PDA as a profile within autism, with a strong focus on nervous system differences, autonomy, and the fight-or-flight response. Dr. Tay shares why traditional behavior-based approaches often miss the mark for children with PDA and offers compassionate, practical insights for parents and educators who want to support children in ways that truly work. If you're navigating intense demand avoidance, burnout, or power struggles—or supporting a child who needs a more flexible, relationship-based approach—this conversation is a must-listen (or re-listen). 🎥 Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/htWAXEnkyzE?si=s9tYLCnIbdt4LDOy 📖 Read the blog here: https://autismlittlelearners.com/pathological-demand-avoidance/ Links: Dr. Tay's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the.dr.tay/ Dr. Tay's Website: https://drtaylorday.com Evolve Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolve-with-dr-tay-the-podcast-for-parents-of-autistic-kids/id1659784037 Takeaways PDA is not a formal diagnosis, but a commonly discussed profile within autism that centers on nervous system differences. A child's behavior often reflects a stress response, not intentional defiance. For children with PDA, autonomy is a need, not a preference. Traditional compliance-based parenting and teaching approaches often escalate challenges rather than reduce them. Understanding fight, flight, freeze, and fawn responses helps adults respond with compassion instead of control. Reducing demands can be supportive when paired with strong relationships and thoughtful boundaries. Collaboration between parents, educators, and providers leads to more consistent and effective support. <li dir="ltr" ar
Have you ever wondered how to talk to children about autism in a way that feels natural, positive, and empowering? In this replay episode, I'm bringing back my incredibly insightful conversation with Andi Putt (Mrs. Speechie P) — an Autistic SLP who specializes in autism evaluations and neuro-affirming support. Andi shares compassionate, practical ways to talk to autistic children about their identity, how to approach conversations with peers and siblings, and why starting these discussions early can make a profound impact on a child's confidence, self-understanding, and mental health. We also dive into how to use everyday moments to normalize autism, reduce stigma, and help all children grow in empathy and acceptance. This is one of those episodes that educators and families continuously return to… and for good reason. Takeaways Why conversations about autism should start early — and continue over time How explaining autism positively can support a child's self-concept and emotional well-being Simple, child-friendly ways to describe autism using strengths-based language Strategies for helping peers understand behaviors through empathy (including Andi's amazing "bear in the classroom" analogy) How open discussions reduce stigma, prevent bullying, and foster more inclusive classrooms Why kids are often more accepting and adaptable than adults assume How to avoid common mistakes adults make when talking about autism — and what to say instead The power of validating children's needs, identities, and differences without shame The importance of individualized support and asking children what they prefer or need How to talk about stimming, sensory overload, fight-or-flight responses, and regulation in ways young kids can understand Tips for sharing information with classmates (and when parent/child permission is needed) Bio: Andi Putt, also known as Mrs. Speechie P, is an Autistic Speech Language Pathologist specializing in team-based Autism evaluations and neuro-affirming support. She is dedicated to empowering families and helping Autistic children under
In today's episode of The Autism Little Learners Podcast, I'm diving into one of the most meaningful parts of working with autistic preschoolers: connection. When we lead with compassion, honor sensory needs, and truly celebrate each child's unique way of being, we create the emotional safety that helps them learn, communicate, and thrive. I'm sharing why stepping out of "teacher mode," validating autistic play, and tapping into deep interests are essential for forming authentic relationships. If you're ready for simple, practical strategies that build trust, reduce overwhelm, and create joyful, neuroaffirming classrooms and homes, this episode is for you. Building authentic connection creates a sense of emotional safety for autistic children. Sensory and regulation needs must be supported before meaningful connection can occur. A calm, steady adult presence helps children co-regulate and learn what regulation feels like. Stepping out of "teacher mode" makes connection more natural and less overwhelming. Autistic play is meaningful, valid, and should be honored rather than redirected. Deep interests are powerful bridges for building trust, engagement, and communication. Leading with compassion instead of compliance helps children feel seen, respected, and safe. Joyful, neuroaffirming environments increase engagement and support learning. Presuming competence communicates respect for all forms of communication and autonomy. Prioritizing connection has long-term positive effects on confidence, engagement, and overall development. Links & Related Podcast Episodes Episode 90: Autism & Play Culture with Dr. Pamela Wolfberg: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-autism-little-learners-podcast/id1665404820?i=1000671411034 Blog: Strength-Based Approach For Teaching Autistic Children: https://autismlittlelearners.com/
This week, we're bringing you an encore episode featuring Sarah Habib, founder of The Calm Caterpillar — and it's one worth revisiting. Sarah's work has made a powerful impact on classrooms and families across the country, helping children (both neurodivergent and neurotypical) learn to regulate big emotions with simple, practical tools. In our conversation, Sarah shares how her calm corner kits, sensory supports, and breathing tools have transformed daily routines, reduced classroom disruptions, and created emotionally supportive spaces where kids can thrive. You'll also hear the incredible story of her work in Uvalde, Texas, and how she supported guidance counselors in building trauma-informed calm spaces for students. Whether you missed this episode the first time or you're listening again to soak up more ideas, this encore is filled with actionable, compassionate strategies for creating neurodiversity-affirming environments. Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/1kzqoTm_XGM Key Takeaways Emotional regulation is a teachable skill, especially when tools are introduced during calm moments. Consistency between home and school boosts success, as seen with the calm corner kits launched during the pandemic. Sensory-rich tools like weighted plushes and tactile breathing aids help children connect with their bodies and calm their nervous systems. Co-regulation from adults comes first — modeling calm responses helps children learn what regulation looks and feels like. Buddy Breathing is an accessible, no-material strategy that supports both neurotypical and neurodivergent children. Calm corners in classrooms empower kids to self-regulate and build independence. Understanding ACEs (Adverse Childhood Experiences) is crucial for supporting emotional well-being. The Uvalde initiative highlights the power of community care and trauma-informed support. <li data-start="2164" data-e
Welcome back to the Autism Little Learners Podcast! Today, we're talking about something that often gets overlooked when we think about AAC and autism—teaching and honoring protests. So often, AAC is used mostly for requesting items. But communication is about so much more. Autistic children need to know how to use their AAC systems for autism to say no, stop, don't like, all done, or help. In this episode, I'll share why honoring protest is essential, what the difference is between acknowledging and honoring protests, and how modeling protest words on AAC for autistic kids builds trust, reduces frustration, and empowers children with self-advocacy. I'll also walk you through the 8 Steps to Honor Protests—a simple framework you can start using right away in your classroom, therapy sessions, or at home. So let's dive in and discover why protest isn't just communication—it's empowerment. Takeaways: AAC and autism go hand in hand—AAC should be used for more than requesting; it's for all communication. Protest is valid communication, not misbehavior. Honoring protests means changing, pausing, or stopping an activity when possible. Acknowledging protests means validating and empathizing, even if you can't change what's happening. AAC systems for autism should always include words for no, stop, don't like, all done, and different. Modeling protest words daily helps children learn how to set boundaries and self-advocate. Honoring protests builds trust and prevents escalation into meltdowns or shutdowns. Following the 8 Steps to Honor Protests shifts teams and families from compliance to connection. Link: 8 Steps To Honoring Protests Freebie: https://autismlittlelearners.myflodesk.com/ofzbilarwd You May Also Like: Visual Support Starter Set (Free Download): www.autismlittlelearners.com/visuals Visual Supports Facebook Group Autism Little Learners on Instagram Autism Little Learners on Facebook
Transitions happen all day long—moving from playtime to circle time, heading to lunch, or wrapping up to go home. For many autistic children, these changes can feel overwhelming, confusing, or even distressing. But with the right understanding and tools, we can make transitions smoother and more predictable. In this episode, I'm diving into why transitions can be hard for autistic kids and sharing practical, compassionate strategies to support them. You'll learn how to ease anxiety, build predictability, and create routines that work for both you and your students or child. Whether you're an educator, therapist, or parent, this episode will help you see transitions through an autistic lens—and give you ideas you can use right away to make them more successful. Takeaways: Predictable routines help autistic children feel safe and secure. Transitions can cause anxiety due to uncertainty or sensory overwhelm. Executive functioning differences make shifting attention harder. Emotional attachments to activities can make ending them distressing. Monotropism explains deep focus—and how it can be both a challenge and a strength. Visual schedules and countdown tools (like a star chart or all-done bucket) create structure and comfort. Empathy, validation, and preparation go a long way. Video modeling can make transitions more concrete and successful. 🔗 Resources Mentioned: Free Video Modeling Guide Blog Post: How To Use Video Modeling Related Podcast Episode #15 More on Monotropism You May Also Like: Visual Support Starter Set (Free Down
In this special episode of The Autism Little Learners Podcast, I'm celebrating 10 years of Sesame Workshop's Autism Initiative and the creation of the beloved character, Julia! I had the absolute joy of sitting down with Kama Einhorn and Dr. Abigail Bucuvalas from Sesame Workshop to talk about the incredible impact of authentic representation, inclusion, and collaboration with the autism community. We dive into how Julia was created to truly reflect the experiences of autistic children and families, the thoughtful research that goes into every Sesame Workshop project, and the global reach of their work. You'll also hear about puppeteer Stacey Gordon—whose personal connection to autism brings such authenticity to Julia's voice—and some exciting new projects on the horizon that continue to celebrate acceptance, understanding, and belonging for all children. Key Takeaways: Sesame Workshop's Autism Initiative has been making an impact for a decade. Julia was created to reflect the experiences of autistic children and promote understanding. Collaboration with autistic individuals, families, and experts is central to Sesame Workshop's process. Representation in media helps normalize conversations about autism and inclusion. Puppeteer Stacey Gordon brings personal insight and authenticity to Julia's character. Every piece of content is research-based and tested before release. The team continually evolves to ensure portrayals of autism are authentic and neurodiversity-affirming. Julia's story continues to grow — showing her friendships, family life, and even her communication with an AAC device. Free, bilingual resources are available for families at SesameWorkshop.org/Autism. The Autism Initiative has had a global impact, expanding to shows like Sisimpur in Bangladesh. Guest Bios: Before we jump in, I'd love to tell you a bit more about today's guests, Kama and Abby. Kama Einhorn As Senior Director of Content Design for Sesame Workshop's Global Education group, Kama Einhorn develops multimedia resources for children, parents, and providers. Before joining the Workshop in 2004, she wrote and edited early childhood teaching resources for Scholastic. Kama holds a ma
Today, we're revisiting one of your favorite episodes — my conversation with Laura Hayes, a speech-language pathologist who specializes in AAC and supports gestalt language processors. Laura brings so much insight, compassion, and practical wisdom to the topic of AAC — you are going to love everything she shares! If you missed this one the first time around (or even if you've heard it before), I encourage you to listen again — you'll walk away feeling inspired and equipped with new ideas you can use right away. Bio: Laura Hayes is a speech-language pathologist with over 15 years of experience supporting individuals who use augmentative and alternative communication (AAC) in both school and medical settings. She's presented at state, national, and international conferences, been published, and supported both inpatient pediatric and educational AAC research. Laura currently hosts a podcast for her school district called Innovative AAC Solutions, and she created an online course on gestalt language processing and AAC through Meaningful Speech. She has helped thousands of AAC users move toward autonomous, meaningful communication. In this encore episode, Laura and I dive into how to honor all forms of communication, presume competence, and model language in ways that truly empower our autistic students. Topics we cover: Laura's Journey & AAC Innovations: How her sister inspired her path and how she helps others through her AAC Innovations platform. Common Missteps in AAC: Why phrases like "say it on your talker" may do more harm than good — and what to say instead. The Power of Modeling: Why seeing adults model AAC helps children build authentic, autonomous communication. Presuming Competence: How believing in every child's potential transforms our approach to teaching communication. Gestalt Language Processing & AAC: Understanding how some children learn language in chunks and what that means for AAC support. Connect with Laura Hayes: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aac_innovations/ Resources Mentioned: Lily's Voice – Providing AAC devices for children in need: https://www.instagram.com/lillysvoice/ <li dir="ltr" aria-
AAC devices give children access to communication all day long—not just during therapy or structured lessons. For many students in the special ed classroom, the key to success isn't just having an AAC communication device, but actually using it in meaningful, everyday contexts. This is especially true when we think about AAC device autism connections. Many autistic children benefit from consistent access to AAC, whether they are nonspeaking, minimally speaking, or have unreliable speech. Embedding AAC in daily routines ensures that communication is always possible. The good news? You don't need extra time or complicated materials to make this happen. With a little intention, you can build AAC use into the routines you're already doing. In this post, I'll share three simple, powerful ways to incorporate AAC devices into daily routines. Takeaways: AAC devices belong in daily routines, not just in therapy sessions. Real-life practice helps children learn communication more naturally. Embedding AAC into the special ed classroom shows students that their AAC communication device is a valid and reliable voice. Transitions are powerful practice opportunities—using an AAC device for autistic children during arrival, lining up, or clean-up builds consistency. Mealtime routines are motivating and perfect for modeling words like eat, drink, more, different, and don't like. Play and learning activities make communication fun—AAC devices can be used during block play, dramatic play, sensory bins, and art. Circle time is a group setting where AAC can shine and is ideal for modeling language. Families can use AAC at home during everyday routines like waking up, chores, family time, and bedtime. Taking AAC into the community—at grocery stores, restaurants, or playgrounds—gives children real-world practice and builds confidence. Related podcast episodes: #24 #96 #143 #144 You may also be interested in these supports: Visual Support Starter Set: www.autismlittlelearners.com/visuals Visual Supports Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/3922278281209994/ Autism Little Learners on Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/autismlittlelearners Autism
Welcome back to the Autism Little Learners Podcast! Today we're talking about a message that I'm deeply passionate about: there are no prerequisites to robust AAC. For far too long, people have believed that children need to prove they're "ready" before being given a robust AAC device. But that simply isn't true. AAC and autism go hand in hand, and every child deserves access to communication—whether they are speaking, nonspeaking, or minimally speaking. In this episode, I'll bust some common ©uld never be treated as a last resort—it's a lifeline for connection, autonomy, and confidence. ✅ 8 Takeaways: Robust AAC is for everyone—there are no prerequisites for access. AAC and autism are not separate; AAC gives autistic children a reliable voice. Waiting for readiness only delays communication and increases frustration. Robust AAC devices support language development, not just basic needs. Modeling AAC is key—input comes before output, just like with spoken language. Providing robust AAC does not stop speech; in fact, it can encourage it. Starting with full systems (instead of limited boards) builds long-term success. Giving access to robust AAC from the start respects children's autonomy and presumes competence.
Welcome back to the Autism Little Learners Podcast! Today we're diving into one of the most powerful strategies for supporting communication in young autistic children—modeling AAC. Just like children learn spoken language by hearing it all around them, AAC users need to see and hear their language modeled on their device or core board. In this episode, we'll talk about what modeling AAC is, why it matters, and how you can start using it in your daily routines—even if you don't have a high-tech device yet. We'll also bust some common myths, share practical tips for modeling without expectation, and explore how modeling goes far beyond just requesting—it's about helping kids express their feelings, build confidence, and connect with the people around them. So let's jump in and discover how you can make communication accessible, joyful, and empowering through the simple practice of modeling AAC. Takeaways: There are no prerequisites to robust AAC—all children deserve access to communication right now. Modeling AAC means pairing spoken words with symbols on a device or core board to show how language works. Modeling without expectation is key—input matters more than immediate output. Consistent modeling builds language growth, confidence, and autonomy for AAC users. Myths debunked: AAC doesn't stop speech, it doesn't confuse children, and you don't need to be a tech expert to model. Start small: choose one routine (like snack or play) and model 1–2 high-frequency core words. If you don't have a device yet, you can begin with core boards to give children access now. Remember, progress over perfection—every modeled word is a seed planted toward communication success. Links & Related Podcast Episodes: Free core board: www.autismlittlelearners.com/visuals Episode #96: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-autism-little-learners-podcast/id1665404820?i=1000676636848 <p dir="ltr" rol
Today on the Autism Little Learners Podcast, I'm joined by Julia DeNey, founder of Sensational You—a brand dedicated to creating adaptive clothing for children with sensory differences. Julia's journey is such an inspiring one. She started in the world of fashion, but it was her time working in special education that opened her eyes to just how much sensory needs can impact a child's ability to learn and thrive. Sensory friendly clothes can make everyday life easier for autistic kids. In this episode, learn how adaptive clothing supports comfort, confidence, and learning. I can't wait for you to hear this conversation! Takeaways Julia's background in fashion led her to create Sensational You. Sensory needs can significantly impact children's learning. Adaptive clothing can help minimize sensory irritations. Real-life feedback from families is crucial for product development. The importance of understanding dysregulation in children. Innovative designs include built-in sensory tools. Community support has been vital for Sensational You's growth. The future vision includes a wider range of sensory-friendly products. Adaptive fashion should be accessible in mainstream stores. Sensory-friendly solutions are becoming more recognized in society. Bio & Links Julia DeNey studied Fashion Design at Cornell University and later worked as a special-education paraprofessional with autistic students. Combining her design expertise with her classroom experience, she founded Sense-ational You, an adaptive clothing brand that supports individuals with autism, ADHD, and sensory sensitivities. https://shopsenseationalyou.com/ https://shopsenseationalyou.com/pages/back-to-school-sensory-checklist https://www.instagram.com/senseational_you/ https://www.tiktok.com/@senseational_you Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Sens
In today's episode of the Autism Little Learners Podcast, I'm joined by Sofia Dumery, Senior Vice President of Design at Melissa & Doug® Toys. If you've ever wondered what goes into creating timeless, high-quality toys that truly support children's development, you're going to love this conversation. We dive into the importance of open-ended play, how toys can spark language and connection, and why durability, inclusivity, and sustainability matter so much in toy design. Whether you're a parent, educator, or therapist, you'll come away with fresh inspiration for using play as a powerful tool for learning and connection. Sofia also explains Melissa & Doug's commitment to inclusivity, durability, and safety, including their extensive testing process and collaborations with occupational therapists. We discuss how sensory elements and realistic designs make their toys appealing to children of all abilities, while also easing fears and building confidence. Finally, we highlight surprising ways their toys have been used in therapy and at home, and how play—when led with joy and creativity—strengthens relationships and creates rich learning opportunities. About Sofia Dumery As Senior Vice President of Design at Melissa & Doug®, Sofia Dumery oversees the creation of all toys and ensures those toys deliver on the brand's mission to ignite imagination and wonder in all children so they discover their passions and their purpose. She leads a team across blue-sky innovation, product, and licensing design. The team is committed to ensuring its inclusive, open-ended products help kids of all abilities build confidence and develop essential skills. In addition to setting the product's vision and strategy, Sofia is responsible for all new toy innovations, working with independent inventors, external partners, and in-house creative team. She holds 17 patents and is always searching for breakthrough innovations. Sofia works closely to ensure toys not only meet children's play patterns and market expectations but also deliver on key sustainability goals. Prior to joining Melissa & Doug® in 2011, Sofia was Design Director at Callaway Arts & Entertainment. There, she built the product strategy and growth of Sunny Patch, at that time an exclusive line for Target. Sofia holds a Bachelor of Arts in Economics from Columbia College, Columbia University, and a Masters in Industrial Design from Pratt University. She, her daughter and their cat Kiwi live in Westport, Connecticut. When it comes to play, Sofia's passions include biking, camping, and reading. About Melissa & Doug® From classic wooden toys to realistic pretend play sets, Melissa & Doug® products inspire creative thinking through screen-free, open-ended play! We make well-crafted toys that are developed with care to be passed down from generation to generation or shar
By popular demand, we're bringing back one of the most impactful episodes! This conversation dives into the powerful link between stress and behavior in autistic children, and why compassionate, neurodiversity-affirming approaches make all the difference. You'll discover how to reframe behavior as communication, support self-advocacy, and create environments that reduce stress and meet the unique needs of autistic children. Whether you're an educator, therapist, or parent, this episode offers practical tools you can use right away. Key Takeaways: Stress and behavior are closely linked for autistic children. Environments that increase stress can make behaviors harder. Behavior is communication—understanding it is essential. Compassionate approaches focus on unmet needs, not compliance. Compliance-driven methods can harm emotional well-being. Self-advocacy is critical for safety and empowerment. Protests and refusals are valid forms of communication. Predictable routines can ease anxiety. Co-regulation helps children manage emotions. Communication tools empower autistic children to thrive. Resources & Links: Research article #1: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6061115/ Research article #2: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3245359/ Calming Kit for preschoolers: https://www.teacherspayteachers.com/Product/Calm-Down-Kit-For-Calming-Corner-In-Special-Education-8140160 You may also be interested in these supports: Visual Support Starter Set <a href= "https://www.facebook.com/groups/39222782
Hi friends, welcome back to the Autism Little Learners Podcast. I'm Tara, a speech-language pathologist who has spent over 25 years working with young autistic children and their families. Today, we're going to talk about a topic that brings up a lot of feelings for educators, therapists, and parents: the Picture Exchange Communication System, or PECS. Specifically, why PECS isn't enough for preschoolers. Now, before I dive in, I want to be clear—PECS is not evil. It's not "bad." For many kids, it has opened the door to communication, and that's something to celebrate. But PECS, on its own, isn't enough. Our preschoolers need more than compliance-based exchanges to build rich, lifelong communication. Takeaways PECS was created in the 1990s to teach kids to request items using pictures. Traditional PECS training often emphasized compliance over authentic communication. Rigid use of PECS protocols sometimes caused frustration and meltdowns in children. PECS has major limitations, including prompt dependency and a narrow focus on requests. Research shows PECS helps with requesting, but not broader communication or social connection. Evidence-based practice must balance research, clinical experience, and client perspectives. Autistic adults report that PECS can restrict autonomy, dignity, and language development. PECS can be a stepping stone, but should not be the final communication system. Robust AAC systems provide greater vocabulary, flexibility, and authentic language use. Communication should always prioritize connection, not compliance. Resources & Links: Jordyn Zimmerman's Article: https://communicationfirst.org/slps-as-aac-gatekeepers/ Julie Roberts Article: https://therapistndc.org/the-problem-with-pecs/ Research Article: https://pure.psu.edu/en/publicati
I've got a short and sweet episode for you today! I'll be sharing 3 tips for introducing a morning meeting or circle time to young autistic children in a self-contained preschool classroom. If you are an educator working in that setting, you don't want to miss this episode! Topics Discussed: Preparing and getting organized before starting a circle time for young autistic children in a special education preschool classroom Using visual supports, such as a visual mini-schedule, and all done bucket during group time Using songs to signal the end of group time Links Mentioned In This Episode About Visual Supports: Visual Supports Starter Set Blog Posts Related To "Routines" What My Preschool Autism Classroom Looked Like Save your seat at my upcoming Circle Time Masterclass here. Other Links You May Be Interested In: Autism Little Learners on Instagram Autism Little Learners on Facebook You can also join my free Visual Supports Facebook Group to "hang out" with like-minded educators and parents who want to take action and implement visuals at home or at school.
Welcome back to the Autism Little Learners Podcast. I'm Tara, and I'm so glad you're here today. If you've been following along, this is Part 2 of our series on potty training autistic children with compassion. In our last episode, we talked about why potty training can be harder for autistic kids, how to prepare the environment, and how to build comfort and readiness before we ever expect a child to actually use the toilet. We also talked about some of the common pitfalls to avoid—like forcing kids to sit on the toilet every 10 minutes, or relying on outdated "3-day potty training" advice that just doesn't work for many of our kids. If you missed that episode, I highly recommend going back to listen first, because it really sets the foundation for everything we'll talk about today. In this episode, we're moving into the "how." We'll go over practical strategies for implementation, how to track progress and make adjustments, and we'll spend some time troubleshooting common challenges—things like fear of flushing, withholding, resistance, and nighttime dryness. This episode is going to be full of tips you can use right away, so let's dive in. Takeaways Potty training is not linear—setbacks are normal, and small steps forward are worth celebrating. Visual supports like cue cards, schedules, and step-by-step sequences give structure and predictability. Pairing bathroom trips with natural routines (after meals, before leaving the house, before bed) helps build consistency. Incorporating a child's special interests into social stories, visuals, or play makes potty training more engaging. Tracking data helps you see patterns and know whether strategies are working or need to be adjusted. Fear of flushing can be reduced by covering sensors on automatic toilets or using noise-reducing headphones. Resistance behaviors like excessive flushing or playing in toilet water can be redirected to alternative sensory activities. Withholding urine or bowel movements is often about anxiety or routine preference—focus on relaxation, stability, and medical checks if needed. Nighttime dryness is a separate developmental milestone and often comes much later—don't let it overshadow daytime progress. Res
In this special two-part series we're tackling one of the biggest challenges many parents and educators face—potty training autistic children. I'll be sharing compassionate, practical strategies that take into account sensory differences, communication needs, and interoception, so you can feel more confident guiding your autistic child or students. Whether you're just getting started or stuck somewhere in the process, this series will give you the tools and encouragement you need. Takeaways Potty training autistic children is not a sprint—it's a marathon (or at least a half-marathon). Progress looks different for every child. Sensory sensitivities, interoception challenges, and communication differences are three of the biggest reasons potty training can be harder for autistic kids. Collecting baseline data (when accidents happen, how often they go) helps you build a roadmap for success. Making the bathroom inviting and sensory-friendly is a first step—soft lighting, calming colors, and incorporating favorite characters can reduce anxiety. Visual supports (bathroom symbols, step-by-step sequences, cue cards) build predictability and reduce uncertainty. Exposure without pressure is key—start with goals like entering the bathroom or sitting on the toilet fully clothed. Modeling helps—siblings, parents, dolls, or stuffed animals can demonstrate potty routines in a playful way. Social stories provide a predictable narrative that prepares children for what happens during potty time. Imitation skills (like copying silly faces or clapping) build the foundation for imitating potty routines later. Avoid common pitfalls: don't put kids on the toilet every 10 minutes, don't force long, stressful sits, and don't expect "3-day training" timelines to work for every child. Resources & Links: Free Potty Training Guide: www.autismlittlelearners.com/toilet Potty Training Course: www.autismlittlelearners.com/pottycourse Potty Training List In Tara's Amazon Shop: <a href= "https://amzn.to/45
Fostering positive relationships with autistic preschoolers is incredibly important. In this episode, I talk about emotional safety, understanding sensory needs, and the role of co-regulation in supporting self-regulation. The discussion highlights the need to step out of traditional teacher roles, validate autistic play, and harness deep interests to create meaningful connections. Core values such as compassion over compliance and honoring neurodiversity are explored, along with strategies for creating joyful, neuroaffirming classrooms. The conversation concludes with a focus on the long-term impact of connection and the importance of empowering educators and caregivers. Takeaways: Positive relationships create emotional safety for children. Understanding sensory needs is crucial for connection. Co-regulation supports self-regulation in children. Stepping out of teacher mode fosters authentic connections. Autistic play is valid and meaningful, reflecting unique interactions. Deep interests can be a doorway to connection. Compassion over compliance is essential in education. Creating joyful, neuroaffirming classrooms enhances learning. Presuming competence in communication builds trust. Connection lays the foundation for long-term success. Links: Episode 90: Autism & Play Culture with Dr. Pamela Wolfberg https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-autism-little-learners-podcast/id1665404820?i=1000671411034 Blog: Strength-Based Approach For Teaching Autistic Children: https://autismlittlelearners.com/strength-based-approach/ You may also be interested in these supports: Visual Support Starter Set Visual Supp
Today's episode is an encore of my conversation with Andi Putt, an incredible speech-language pathologist, and autism advocate. As we head back to school, it's the perfect time to revisit this discussion on talking to kids about autism—whether it's peers, siblings, or the autistic child themselves. Andi shares practical, positive strategies to start these conversations early and empower kids with understanding and empathy. Have you ever wondered how to talk to children about autism? In today's episode, I had the honor of talking to Andi Putt about the importance of early conversations about autism, and how to empower autistic children through understanding their identity. We also talk about the significance of normalizing these conversations among peers and Andi offers some effective ways to explain autism to children. This episode is one that you are going to want to share with everyone you know! Takeaways Advocacy for autism should start early and be ongoing Understanding autism can empower children and improve mental health Conversations about autism should be age-appropriate and continuous Normalizing discussions about autism helps reduce stigma Children are often more accepting of differences than adults expect It's important to recognize individual needs in educational settings Open communication about autism can foster understanding among peers Language around autism should be positive and supportive General discussions about autism can help reduce bullying Empathy is crucial in understanding children's reactions Celebrating differences fosters a more inclusive environment Resources can help parents and educators communicate about autism Open conversations can lead to greater understanding among peers Bio: Andi Putt, also known as Mrs. Speechie P, is an Autistic Speech Language Pathologist specializing in team-based Autism evaluations and neuro-affirming support. She is dedicated to empowering families
Let's be honest, back-to-school can feel overwhelming. There's excitement, sure, but there's also anxiety—both for kids and for parents and caregivers. For autistic kids, who often thrive on predictability and routine, this transition can feel extra big. The good news? We can make it easier. There are small, proactive things we can do that help autistic children feel safe, supported, and ready to learn. Today, I'm sharing four strategies that I've seen work time and time again Takeaways Preparing autistic children for back-to-school with small, proactive steps can reduce anxiety and build confidence. A visual countdown calendar and practice runs make new routines feel predictable and easier to manage. Reading a social story daily helps children understand what to expect, making the first day feel familiar and safe. Personalizing social stories with school photos and teacher pictures increases comfort and understanding. Sharing a Child Interest Survey or "All About Me" sheet helps teachers connect quickly and support each child's unique needs. Knowing a child's favorite toys or interests can ease transitions and spark engagement on day one. Comfort items like a small toy, family photo, or fidget tool can provide emotional security throughout the school day. Progress, not perfection, is the goal—small, consistent steps create smoother transitions and more positive school experiences. Links Free Story Library (Going To School Story): :https://autismlittlelearners.myflodesk.com/xo348maka7 Child Interest Survey: https://autismlittlelearners.myflodesk.com/xq5o4kiwzd All About Me Forms: https://www.teacherspayteachers.com/Product/All-About-Me-Template-For-Special-Education-11899087 You may also be interested in these supports from Autism Little Learners: <p
In this powerful reflection episode, Tara shares one of the most impactful moments of her career—her conversation with Jordyn Zimmerman during the 2025 Preschool Autism Summit. Together, they unpack the importance of presuming competence, providing early AAC access, and creating neurodiversity-affirming learning spaces. Tara also shares emotional ripple stories from participants, illustrating how nearly 50,000 educators and therapists are creating waves of change for autistic children around the world. Key Takeaways: Presume competence—always. Speech is not the same as intelligence, and we must stop making assumptions based on verbal ability. Non-speaking ≠ non-verbal. The term "non-verbal" implies a lack of language; "non-speaking" affirms that language exists, even without speech. There are no prerequisites for AAC. Children do not need to match, point, or "behave" a certain way before receiving access to communication tools. PECS is not a communication system. It is a requesting system and does not provide full language access. AAC must include access to robust, literacy-based tools. Limiting a child to a core board or basic images restricts their ability to truly communicate. Talking about students in front of them causes real harm. Many non-speaking students hear and understand far more than people assume. Lack of access to communication is traumatic. It can lead to emotional and physical distress—and we have a responsibility to prevent that. Real inclusion means access, not separation. Segregated classrooms limit growth and potential; all students deserve meaningful academic instruction. Educators are making real-time ripples. From texting SLPs during the summit to creating team trainings, attendees are already pushing change. Small shifts create big waves. With over 49,000 participants, the summit's ripple effect may reach nearly half a million autistic children—and it all starts with choosing compassion over compliance. Links Jordyn's Documentary: https://thisisnotaboutme.film/ Jordyn's Website: <a href= "https://www.jor
In this encore episode of The Autism Little Learners Podcast, Tara reconnects with Cari Ebert, a respected speech-language pathologist and passionate advocate for neurodiversity-affirming practices. Together, they revisit a powerful conversation that redefines what play and connection can look like for autistic children. Cari shares valuable insights into why autistic play is real, meaningful, and should be honored as such. She explains how deep interests can be a gateway to learning, joy, and communication—and how adults can build stronger relationships with children by embracing these passions. The episode also explores the idea of presuming competence and cultivating supportive environments where every child feels seen and valued. Whether you're hearing this conversation for the first time or listening again, it's packed with practical ideas and heart-centered strategies to help you support autistic children in ways that truly honor who they are. Key Takeaways: Autistic children experience and express play in unique, valid ways. Deep interests are powerful tools for building trust and engagement. Connection and respect must come before compliance or correction. Play is not a prerequisite for learning—it is learning. Presuming competence opens the door to authentic communication. Environments that support individuality fuel growth and joy. Reflecting on our practices helps us better support each child. Bio: Cari Ebert, MS, CCC-SLP, is a pediatric speech-language pathologist in private practice in the Kansas City, Missouri area. She received her bachelor's degree from the University of Iowa in 1993 and her master's degree from Southern Illinois University at Carbondale in 1995. Cari is a therapist, consultant, author, product developer, and nationally recognized speaker who gets paid to do what she loves most—TALK! She has an animated personality, and this translates to a high-energy speaking style. Cari has an Autistic son, allowing her to engage audiences both as a professional and as a parent of a neurodivergent child. Website: www.cariebert.com Cari's free handout "Autistic Play Is Authentic Play": https://cariebert.com/freebie You may also b
In this episode, I'm sharing something really exciting with you—a sneak peek into the upcoming Preschool Autism Summit, happening July 14–16, 2025! You'll get to hear short clips from some of our amazing presenters, and I'll pop in between each one to give you a little intro and context. These speakers are bringing so much heart, wisdom, and practical support to the table. Whether you're a special educator, SLP, OT, or a parent, you're going to walk away from the summit feeling more confident, more supported, and ready to take action. 🎉 And hey—if you're listening before July 17th, 2025, you still have time to grab your free ticket or upgrade to the All-Access Pass, which gives you access to all 25+ presentations for a full year, plus some amazing bonuses! Grab your free ticket here: www.preshoolautismsummit.com Also, be sure to follow me on Instagram to be the first to know about events like the Preschool Autism Summit: http://www.instagram.com/autismlittlelearners Have an awesome day! Tara
Hi there, and welcome back to the Autism Little Learners podcast! I'm Tara Phillips, and today I'm joined by speech-language pathologist Alexandria Zachos for an amazing conversation all about Gestalt Language Processing. We talk about how our understanding of language development has evolved, the real struggles around prompt dependence, and why a child-led approach is so important—especially for Gestalt language processors. Alexandria shares so many helpful insights, including how we can better support these communicators by building authentic connections and honoring all the ways they express themselves. Whether you're a therapist, teacher, or parent, this episode is packed with practical strategies to encourage spontaneous language and support meaningful communication. I'm so excited for you to hear this one! Takeaways Gestalt Language Processing is a natural way of developing language. Many SLPs are unaware of Gestalt Language Development despite its long history. Prompt dependence often stems from traditional teaching strategies. Child-led therapy is essential for fostering spontaneous communication. Silence can be a powerful tool in therapy sessions. Acknowledging all forms of communication builds trust with children. Using a child's Gestalt can enhance engagement and communication. Therapists should focus on the child's interests to promote language use. It's never too late to shift from prompt dependence to child-led approaches. Building authentic relationships is key to effective communication. Bio Alexandria Zachos is the founder, clinical director, owner, and senior speech-language pathologist with Social Butterfly Inc. and Meaningful Speech® She has been a practicing SLP for 21 years and has worked extensively with gestalt language processors since 2016, utilizing Blanc's Natural Language Acquisition protocol. She educates SLPs, parents, and related professionals through her social media platforms, podcasts, blogs, and her internationally acclaimed courses on http://Meaningfulspeech.com/. When she's not wearing her SLP hat she
In this episode, I had the absolute honor of speaking with Dr. Barry Prizant—renowned speech-language pathologist and author of the best-selling book Uniquely Human. We talked about how the field of autism education is shifting away from compliance-based approaches and moving toward more compassionate, relationship-centered models. Dr. Prizant shared powerful insights about emotional regulation, storytelling, and the importance of truly listening to the lived experiences of autistic individuals. We also explored topics like non-speaking communication, the SCERTs model, and how collaboration among educators and families can create lasting change. This conversation left me feeling inspired and hopeful about the future of autism education, and I just know you will feel the same! Bio Barry M. Prizant, PhD, CCC-SLP is recognized as among the world's leading scholars on autism and as an innovator of respectful, person- and family-centered approaches. He is Director of Childhood Communication Services, Adjunct Professor of Communicative Disorders at the University of Rhode Island, and has fifty years of experience as an international consultant and researcher. Barry has published five books, 150 articles/chapters, and is co-author of The SCERTS Model, now being implemented internationally. He was a two-time featured presenter at the UN World Autism Awareness Day, with more than 1000 presentations internationally. Barry's book Uniquely Human: A Different Way of Seeing Autism (2022) is the best-selling book on autism since 2015, published in 26 languages and ranked by Book Authority as #1 of the "100 best books on autism of all time". Barry co-hosts a podcast, Uniquely Human: The Podcast, with his friend, Dave Finch, an autistic audio engineer. Dr. Barry Prizant's Links: Website: https://barryprizant.com/ Uniquely Human Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/uniquely-human-the-podcast/id1532460901 Uniquely Human Book: https://amzn.to/4e5VWZN The Scerts Model Books: https://amzn.to/4kFpbF5 DRBI (Developmental Relationship-Based Intervention) Interview: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/uniquely-human-the-podcast/id1532460901?i=1000711834231 Autistic Self Advocacy Network (ASAN): https://autisticadvocacy.org/ Amy Laurent Ted Talk "Compliance Is Not The Goal": <a href= "https://www.ted.com/talks/amy_laurent_compliance_is_not_the_goal_letting_go_of_control_and_rethinking_support_for_autist
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