The Art of Network Engineering

AI infrastructure is reshaping networking faster than most engineers realize.In this episode, Andy Lapteff sits down with Scott Robohn to discuss why traditional network engineers should start paying attention to AI networking, GPU infrastructure, and the massive changes happening inside modern data centers.They explore:Why AI workloads are changing networking requirementsGPU networking and lossless EthernetEthernet vs InfiniBandThe rise of NeoCloud providersCo-Packaged Optics (CPO)Ultra Ethernet and emerging transport technologiesWhy AI infrastructure behaves like “one giant computer”How network engineers can start learning this technology todayThis conversation cuts through the hype and focuses on what actually matters for engineers trying to stay relevant as AI continues transforming the industry.Whether you're a traditional network operator, automation engineer, architect, or someone curious about the future of networking, this episode will help you understand where the industry is heading next.Guest: Scott Robohnhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/scottrobohn/Connect with The Art of Network Engineering:https://linktr.ee/artofnetengSend us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

Andy Lapteff sits down in person with Tom Hollingsworth ahead of Networking Field Day 40 for a wide-ranging conversation about Tech Field Day, what makes a great delegate, how great technical conversations happen, and why curiosity remains one of the most important traits in networking.Tom shares the “secret sauce” behind Field Day: strong content, the right audience, and logistics that make the experience valuable for both vendors and delegates. Andy and Tom also discuss AI in networking, the difference between AI for infrastructure and infrastructure for AI, how new voices get discovered in the tech community, and why putting yourself out there can change the trajectory of your career.If you want to grow your presence in the networking industry or learn how to ask better technical questions, this episode is for you.Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

In this episode, we break down why traditional job applications are failing and how networking communities like USNUA are becoming the fastest path to career growth in IT.You’ll learn: Why applying online isn’t working  How real opportunities come from real conversations  Why community matters more than certifications You don’t get hired through applications. You get hired through people.If you want to grow your career, this is the shift you need to make.Send us Fan Mail Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

For years, network engineers were told the same thing:“Learn Python… or fall behind.”But what if that’s no longer true?In this episode, we walk through a real Hello World for AI in networking: connecting an AI agent to NetBox using Model Context Protocol (MCP) and querying network data in natural language.No scripts.No Python expertise.Just results.This is a live, unfiltered build, from cloning a repo to debugging JSON to finally asking:“How many sites do I have in New York?”…and getting an answer instantly.What You’ll Learn: Why Python is no longer the entry point to network automation  What MCP is and how it connects AI to your network  How to query NetBox using natural language  How AI handles tasks that used to require scripts  Where human-in-the-loop still matters Why This Matters:Most network engineers haven’t started automation, not because they don’t want to, but because the barrier felt too high.AI just lowered it.This episode shows you exactly where to start.Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

What does a network engineer actually make in 2025–2026? How do you ask for a raise without making it weird? And what's the single biggest thing holding your career back? We recorded this one live.This episode comes straight from the US Networking User Association PA Network User Group 2026 Spring Career Day — a standing-room-only event organized by USNUA in the Philadelphia area. Five talks. Five perspectives. All of it relevant to where you are right now in your career.Drew Conroy Murray from Packet Pushers kicks things off with highlights from their global salary survey — 418 respondents across 33 countries, with some genuinely surprising numbers around certifications, tools, and geographic salary gaps. Pat follows with a straightforward breakdown of how to build your case, time your ask, and walk out of a raise conversation with something — even if the answer is no.David takes it from there with a hard truth most engineers don't want to hear: being good at your job is the floor, not the ceiling. Visibility, advocacy, and knowing who has influence over your next move matters more than you think. Danny brings the career path conversation — why management isn't the only way up, why passion matters more than a title, and why finding your people changes everything.Andy closes with a personal story about unemployment, cognitive bias, and what it actually took to unlearn a decade of being anti-automation. Fair warning: it gets real.This is the kind of conversation that usually stays in the room. We're glad we got to record it.Topics covered: salary benchmarks, asking for a raise, promotion strategy, career pathing, network automation, cognitive bias, personal brand, soft skillsSend us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

What if the biggest problem in networking is that we’re solving the wrong one?In this episode of The Art of Network Engineering, Andy and Lexie sit down with Radia Perlman, one of the most influential figures in networking history and the inventor of Spanning Tree Protocol.This conversation goes far beyond protocols and configurations. Radia shares how networking evolved, through constraints, tradeoffs, and human decisions, and why so much of what we learn today is incomplete without understanding the problems those technologies were trying to solve.You’ll hear: Why Ethernet was never designed to be used the way we use it today  How Spanning Tree came to be, and why it wasn’t meant to be permanent  The blurred lines between Layer 2 and Layer 3  The real reason BGP exists (and its limitations)  Why engineers often jump into solutions before understanding the problem  What people get wrong about quantum computing and AI This is one of those conversations that doesn’t just teach you what networking is, it changes how you think about it.About AONEThe Art of Network Engineering explores the human side of IT—real stories, real lessons, and practical insights from people shaping the industry.Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

In this episode, Andy sits down with Gregory Grimes to unpack the world of Wi-Fi 7 and what it means for network engineers.If wireless has ever felt like magic compared to the predictability of route/switch, this conversation is for you. Andy and Greg walk through the evolution of wireless networking, from the early days of 802.11 to the latest innovations in Wi-Fi 7, including wider channels, better spectrum use, resource units, and multi-link operation (MLO).They also explore the real-world question every engineer asks: who actually needs Wi-Fi 7? Is it a game changer for the average home user, or does it really shine in high-density and high-performance environments like classrooms, auditoriums, healthcare, and immersive AR/VR use cases?Along the way, they translate complex wireless concepts into practical networking language that route/switch engineers can relate to, making this a great episode for anyone who wants to better understand modern wireless without needing a CWNA-level deep dive.In this episode:A quick history of Wi-Fi and the 802.11 standardWhy wireless feels so different from wired networkingHow contention, collisions, and airtime shape wireless performanceWhat OFDMA and resource units actually doWhat makes Wi-Fi 7 different from Wi-Fi 6/6EHow MLO changes the wireless conversationWhy deterministic wireless mattersWhere Wi-Fi 7 fits in the enterpriseWhen it makes sense to upgrade — and when it doesn’tThe episode also closes with a great reminder that networking is about more than protocols and throughput. Greg shares why the Art of Network Engineering community has mattered to him from the beginning, and why finding your people in this industry makes all the difference.Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

“AI Won’t Replace You, But Someone Using AI Might”AI is everywhere; stickers, marketing, hype. Network engineers are understandably skeptical.In this episode, Andy Lapteff is joined by longtime friend of the show John Capobianco (now Head of AI & DevRel at Itencho) and Mike Bushong for a practical, optimistic “ABCs of AI” discussion designed for working network engineers.We start with a blunt reality: automation adoption is still low, and the old “automate or die” narrative hasn’t helped. Then we pivot into what’s changed: modern models are strong enough to be useful, but only if you stop treating them like a search bar and start connecting them to real tooling and real data.John explains the core building blocks—LLMs, RAG, agentic workflows, and especially Model Context Protocol (MCP)—and why MCP may be the protocol that finally makes AI feel operationally real.Finally, we land on a concrete “Hello World” for neteng: connect an AI client to a source of truth like NetBox or Nautobot (in a sandbox), start with read-only workflows (logs, config deltas, compliance), and build from there—safely.If you’ve been curious but overwhelmed, this is your on-ramp.Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

What does “mission-critical networking” really mean?At St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital, it’s not about uptime SLAs or dashboard metrics; it’s about supporting the research and care that helps save children’s lives.In this episode, we sit down with Remington Loose and Josh Morris to explore the architecture, scale, and responsibility behind one of the most meaningful networks in the world.We dig into:How research networking differs from traditional enterprise ITThe massive data demands behind pediatric cancer researchDesigning networks where downtime isn’t just inconvenient, it’s unacceptableSupporting clinicians, researchers, and life-saving applications simultaneouslyLessons enterprise engineers can learn from healthcare environmentsFrom high-performance data movement to reliability strategies that operate without margin for error, this conversation reframes what networking looks like when human outcomes are on the line.Because in environments like St. Jude…The network isn’t just infrastructure; it’s part of the care team.Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

Erika Dietrick (aka “Erika the Dev”) is back on the show, and she’s days away from a major life change (welcome, Baby Dev). In this follow-up conversation, we dig into the thing that keeps coming up in network engineering careers: programming is no longer a “nice-to-have.”Erika breaks down her free YouTube course designed specifically for network engineers: Level 1 is “programmatic thinking” (the mindset + foundations), Level 2 is where AI becomes your learning accelerator, and Level 3 is about generating code responsibly, without falling into the “vibe coding” trap.We also talk about why coding feels so foreign to CLI lifers, why so many “slick” courses lose beginners, and how to use AI like Google-on-steroids. If you’ve ever thought, “I’m not smart enough for this” or “I don’t have time,” this one’s for you.What we cover:- Why network engineers struggle with coding (and it’s not your fault)- The difference between using AI while coding vs vibe coding- How to build foundations that make AI actually useful- Why libraries matter, and how Level 2 focuses on network automation libraries- Career reality: why Python shows up in job descriptions everywhereFind Erika:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@UCkWURMuDQZox53bskCFS6vw LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erikadietrick/Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

We've all worked on those technical projects that felt doomed from the start. In this episode, we're joined by Eyvonne Sharp and Mike Bushong to dig into what actually derails technical projects, and why the root cause is usually people, not packets.We unpack:- Why 80–90% of project failures aren’t technical- What “executive sponsorship” is supposed to mean (and why most teams never use it)- The real reason timelines feel arbitrary: information asymmetry- What “healthy escalation” looks like (and how to avoid the courtroom vibe)- How to deliver bad news to leaders: few words, calm tone, clear next step, clear ask- The leadership move that instantly lowers the temperature: removing blame- Why informal networks matter, including a legendary security-incident save powered by… cheesecakeIf you’ve ever felt stuck in status-call theater, pressured to keep the project's status green, or unsure how to talk to leadership when reality hits, this episode is your playbook.Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

Recorded on-site in Austin, Texas, at AutoCon 4 (Network Automation Forum), Andy sits down with Colin Doyle to talk about the human side of technical communication and why it matters more than ever in technical careers.They dig into practical speaking advice for engineers: how to slow down without losing authority, why “dead air” feels scarier than it is, how to stop relying on scripts, and how to structure a talk so your audience can repeat your message when you leave the room. Colin shares the “audience-first” mindset shift: don’t tell your story, tell the audience’s story with you in it.Then the conversation widens into the network automation adoption problem: why network automation still lags behind other IT domains, why tooling fragmentation creates anxiety (“what if I learn the wrong thing?”), and why starting with Python is often the safest first step. Colin also reframes overlays (EVPN/VXLAN) as a fundamental shift: abstraction changes operations, pushes configuration to the edge, and makes intent-based operations and assurance the real job.If you’re a CLI lifer preparing to level up, or you’re giving your first big talk, this episode is a practical, grounding guide.In this episode: communication fundamentals, talk prep, booth culture at AutoCon, automation adoption barriers, overlays → intent → assurance, and why you don’t need to be a “kung fu wizard” to start automating.Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

Most network engineers know BGP, OSPF, and maybe EIGRP, but far fewer have hands-on experience with ISIS. In this episode of The Art of Network Engineering, Andy Lapteff sits down with Russ White and Mike Bushong for a deep, opinionated, and refreshingly honest discussion about routing protocol design in modern data centers.We explore why BGP has become the default hammer for every networking nail, what we lose when we blend underlay and overlay into a single protocol, and why some of the largest networks in the world still rely on IS-IS for simplicity, scale, and resilience.This isn’t a “which protocol is best” argument, it’s a design conversation. One about failure domains, operational reality, education gaps, and why many engineers never learn the protocols that quietly power hyperscale networks.In this episode:Why BGP is policy-rich but intentionally slowThe architectural value of separating underlay and overlayHow ISIS works and why it’s simpler than you thinkTLVs, scalability, and protocol evolutionWhy familiarity often beats good design (for better or worse)Where RIFT fits and where it doesn’tThe cost of losing deep protocol knowledge as engineers retireIf you’ve ever wondered why networks are designed the way they are, or if you’ve felt uneasy about “just using BGP everywhere,” this conversation is for you.Subscribe for more conversations where technology meets the human side of IT.Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

In this special on-location episode of The Art of Network Engineering, Andy Lapteff sits down in person with Kevin Myers for a conversation that pulls no punches.Kevin brings decades of service provider and whitebox experience to the table as the two dive deep into one of networking’s most complex decisions: how to choose the right vendor to build your network.From Cisco to whitebox, from enterprise carpeted IT to hyperscale data centers, this episode is all about designing networks that align with business needs, not just personal bias or legacy choices.Topics include:Why vendor selection should come after requirements gathering.How multi-vendor environments can create both resilience and complexity.When whitebox networking makes sense—and what kind of teams can support it.The hidden "operational tax" of expanding your vendor portfolio.Why understanding the business is the most critical skill for modern engineers.Whether you're a design engineer, network architect, or just trying to future-proof your ops, this episode is packed with insights that will change how you think about gear, vendors, and the networks we build.Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

Andy sits down with longtime friend William Collins to unpack three big themes shaping modern NetOps. First: the AWS US-East-1 outage and the myth that “cloud = resiliency by default.” They explore blast radius, hidden regional dependencies, cost trade-offs (active/active vs. DR), and why resiliency is engineered, not purchased. Next: how public speaking accelerates a technical career (without live-demo heartbreak). William shares practical tactics to craft a memorable talk, lean on story, and handle Q&A. Finally: a plain-English walkthrough of Model Context Protocol (MCP), why it exists, how it standardizes tool access for LLMs, and what that means for real NetOps workflows. If you design for failure, want to level up your communication skills, or keep hearing “MCP” and wonder what it actually does, this one’s for you.Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

Network engineers don’t tune into corporate all-hands because they’re “lazy,” they tune out because the message often isn’t for them. In this episode of The Art of Network Engineering, Andy Lapteff sits down with longtime industry leaders Scott Robohn and Mike Bushong to unpack the disconnect between engineering teams and executive communications, and how to fix it.They talk about:Why engineers roll their eyes at town halls, earnings calls, and “four pillars of excellence”How leadership actually thinks about growth, stock price, cost centers, and enablementThe two jobs every company really has: build stuff or sell stuff, and where networking fitsHow to pitch your ideas in business terms so they get fundedWhy AI networking and data center infrastructure are the next durable growth areas for network prosThe difference between being part of the product vs. enabling the product,  and why it matters for your careerIf you’ve ever thought, “Just let me do my job,” this one’s for you. You’ll walk away knowing how to connect your automation, operations, or data center work to the outcomes your company actually cares about: revenue, speed, customer experience, and risk.Listen in, take notes, and then go advocate for your work like it matters, because it does.Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

Blue Origin’s Lexie Cooper is back! We riff on New Glenn’s first launch and what “vehicle #2” means for launch cadence, where to watch from Florida without getting arrested, and why streaming your learning, even when it’s awkward, is a cheat code for growth. Andy shares his live Python study saga (and a friendly dust-up with Jeff about “just code it”), while Lexie takes us down to Layer 1: PHYs, link pulses, why “turning off auto-negotiation” isn’t always what you think, and why messy home labs beat pretty cable porn. We also get real about authenticity at vendors, the pressure to be “polished,” and whether networking is still a great career in an automation-heavy market.If you need a nudge to build, break, and learn in public, this one’s it.In this episode:New Glenn’s growing fleet & why multiple boosters matterHow/where to catch a Florida launch (scrubs happen)Learning in public: textbooks on stream, tension on mic, real takeawaysPHY vs. ASIC, MAC sublayers, and auto-neg gotchas (with an oscilloscope!)Home labs: why “spaghetti” > showroom racks for actual learningCareers: automation pressure, Git for config history, staying authenticStreaming nuts & bolts: TikTok vs. Twitch vs. YouTube, OBS scenes 101Women in networking and inviting more people into the fieldSend us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

Learning Python as a network engineer can feel confusing, frustrating, and let’s be honest, pretty dry at times. But Andy and Jeff are diving in together to make it real, relatable, and (hopefully) a little more fun.In this episode, they pick up where the last Python Party left off: exploring variables, strings, methods like .title() and .strip(), and why whitespace can break your scripts. Along the way, they share honest struggles, “aha!” moments, and practical applications for automation in the networking world.If you’ve ever looked at Python code and thought, “this isn’t for me,” this episode will make you feel seen. Join Andy and Jeff as they lab, laugh, and learn the building blocks that every network engineer needs to stay relevant in an automated future.Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

We’re kicking off a brand-new “Python Study Sessions” series—learn right alongside host Andy Lapteff as he starts from absolute basics and builds momentum one concept at a time. In this first session, Andy walks through the installation of Python, setting up VS Code, running “Hello, world,” and getting comfortable with the Python REPL. Then we dive into fundamentals you’ll use everywhere: variables, print(), syntax highlighting, saving/running files, common traceback errors, and simple debugging in VS Code. This series is inspired by learning in public—join the community, ask questions, and study together as we work through Python Crash Course (3rd ed.). If you liked our recent, more technical BGP episode, you’ll love where this is headed.What you’ll learnInstalling Python 3 and launching the interpreterWriting and running your first script in VS CodeVariables 101: assignment, reassignment, and printing valuesReading tracebacks and fixing name/syntax errorsBeginner mindset tips for sticking with codeWe’ll stream future sessions and continue to publish the audio here. Want to follow along live, ask questions, or share your wins? Watch for stream announcements on our socials: @ArtOfNetEng.If this format helps you, tell us—rate the show, leave a comment, or share with a friend who’s been meaning to learn Python. Your feedback decides if we keep this series going.Subscribe to our YouTube channel and click the notification icon to get notified of our free Python Party Livestreams, where we learn Python fundamentals together: https://www.youtube.com/@artofnetenghttps://www.youtube.com/@erika_thedev FREE Learn to Code for network engineers course:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvfm4aNXLC8wiJs-YGVQXUwukv06z5NJS&si=EqTVV_57fkfHCpP_https://www.youtube.com/@TracketpacerStudy Streams:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj0DbZdkhZoc8t3X98tjB4lfKMRgq03LI&si=bJ9t1tM_3cmJwesRSupport the show:https://www.buzzsprout.com/2127872/supportSend us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

BGP isn’t just “the internet’s protocol”—it’s the most flexible policy engine in networking. In this episode of The Art of Network Engineering, Andy Lapteff and Jeff Clark sit down with Kevin Myers (aka StubArea51) to unpack Border Gateway Protocol from the ground up: why BGP replaced EGP, how policy differs from IGP topology, and where iBGP shines inside modern enterprises.You’ll hear practical patterns for BGP communities (standard, extended, and large), how to tag and filter at scale, and why this beats sprawling prefix lists and brittle ACLs. Kevin walks through real merger scenarios—solving overlapping RFC1918 space with communities, when to NAT vs. renumber, and why IPv6 is a secret weapon for management domains. We also cover iBGP loop prevention, route reflectors vs. full-mesh, the attributes that actually matter (local-pref > weight/MED in most shops), and how SD-WAN leans on BGP under the hood.If you’ve ever wondered why BGP ended up everywhere—WAN, SD-WAN, and even data centers—this conversation connects the dots with clear, battle-tested examples.Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

What happens when a farm kid with a knack for taking things apart discovers computers? Meet Tom Lawrence, the tech polymath behind Lawrence Systems and a YouTube channel with over 375,000 subscribers. In this engaging conversation, Tom reveals how his curiosity-driven journey from 1990s Linux enthusiast to MSP owner and content creator was fueled by a simple philosophy: lead with value.Tom's approach stands in refreshing contrast to typical marketing strategies. "People remember people who helped them, not people who threw them in a sales funnel," he explains, detailing how his comprehensive, no-holds-barred tutorials naturally generate business leads without ever feeling like advertisements. This generosity extends to his forums, where he freely shares configurations, news sources, and technical solutions with a community of over 80,000 weekly visitors.The discussion takes fascinating turns through cybersecurity landscapes, self-hosted AI, and the privacy culture within hacker communities. Tom breaks down complex topics with remarkable clarity – from the security implications of passkeys to the advantages of running language models locally rather than relying on cloud services. His practical advice is grounded in real-world experience: "I only do freebies for immediate family," he laughs, offering wisdom on setting boundaries as a tech professional.Whether you're considering a career in cybersecurity, looking to understand the business side of technology, or simply fascinated by the evolution of computing, Tom's story demonstrates how technical expertise combined with genuine helpfulness creates a formula for success in the digital age. Discover why this self-described "generalist" has become one of the most trusted voices in technical education and what his journey reveals about the future of IT.Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

From refinancing a car to attend Novell School to founding one of networking's most influential podcasts, Ethan Banks shares his remarkable journey through the evolution of network engineering with raw honesty and deep insight.In this captivating conversation, Ethan takes us back to the mid-90s when networks ran on a patchwork of protocols like IPX, DeckNet, and AppleTalk, before the industry consolidated around IP. His career trajectory mirrors the transformation of networking itself—constantly adapting, expanding in scope, and requiring an ever-broader skill set.The story behind Packet Pushers reveals the grind of content creation that many never see. Starting in 2010 when podcasting was still emerging, Ethan and co-founder Greg Farrow recorded remotely (Ethan in the US, Greg in England) while working full-time jobs. Their philosophy of "just hit publish" and focus on consistent, quality content built a community when network engineers often felt isolated in their roles. Five years of this double workload culminated in taking the leap to full-time podcasting in 2015.What makes this episode especially valuable is Ethan's perspective on where networking is heading. Today's engineers need to understand not just routing and switching, but cloud architecture, cybersecurity, automation, and software development principles. While certifications like CCNA still provide foundational knowledge, Ethan emphasizes understanding the "why" behind networking decisions rather than just memorizing commands.For aspiring content creators, Ethan offers encouraging wisdom: don't be intimidated by existing content. Your unique perspective and communication style will connect with people in ways others can't. Creating technical content also forces deeper understanding, revealing knowledge gaps you might not have recognized otherwise.Join our community at linktree.com/artofneteng and visit our Discord "It’s All About the Journey" to continue the conversation about career development, content creation, and navigating the future of networking.Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

Ever wondered what really happens behind the scenes of a tech podcast? From planning to publishing, this episode lifts the veil on the entire content creation process that powers The Art of Network Engineering.The journey begins with planning—far from simply hitting record and talking, successful episodes require thoughtful topic selection, guest coordination, and scheduling. We reveal how project management tools like Asana help organize our workflow, and share how AI assists with generating fresh topics after 170+ episodes. You'll discover the exact hardware setup we use, from professional microphones to lighting equipment, and learn which recording platforms deliver the best results for remote guests.Post-production might seem intimidating, but we break down our approach to editing, sharing both premium solutions like Adobe Premiere Pro and free alternatives like DaVinci Resolve. You'll learn about specialized tools that automatically remove silence and enhance audio quality, dramatically reducing editing time while improving listener experience. We also discuss the importance of visually appealing thumbnails and how Canva makes graphic design accessible to non-designers.Most importantly, we emphasize why creating content matters for your career. As Jeff shares, his early "Tech Tip Tuesday" videos helped him land his first IT job despite lacking traditional experience. Whether you're establishing credibility, demonstrating communication skills, or building community, content creation provides unique opportunities to advance professionally. The best part? You don't need expensive equipment or years of experience to begin—just start with what you have and allow yourself to grow.Ready to launch your own content journey? Connect with us on Discord, LinkedIn or other social platforms—we're always happy to help fellow creators get started!Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

Have you ever wondered what happens when the networks we build leave Earth's atmosphere? In this mind-expanding conversation with Lexi Cooper, Network Integration Engineer at Blue Origin, we explore the extraordinary world of rocket networking and witness firsthand the emotional impact of watching your work launch into orbit.Lexi's journey defies conventional career paths—from hating her previous job to discovering networking at community college, live streaming her CCNA studies on Twitch, and landing at Blue Origin through what she calls "pure luck" when someone noticed her social media posts about BGP. Her story proves that intellectual curiosity and a willingness to learn publicly can propel careers to literal new heights.We dive deep into the unique challenges of aerospace networking that terrestrial engineers rarely consider: the weight constraints that limit redundancy options, the extreme temperature fluctuations without air cooling, radiation testing for components, and the absolute necessity for deterministic networking when human intervention is impossible after launch. Lexi explains how every engineering decision becomes a complex risk assessment when the stakes include billion-dollar missions.For aspiring rocket network engineers, Lexi offers invaluable advice: master networking fundamentals through certifications like CCNA, don't be intimidated by seemingly impossible job requirements, and develop a deeper understanding of the lower networking layers most engineers never explore. She emphasizes that no one is ever fully qualified for these unique roles—what matters most is demonstrating passion, adaptability, and a relentless desire to understand how things work.Ready to expand your professional horizons? Join us for this inspiring conversation that will change how you think about networking and perhaps open doors to career possibilities you never imagined. Whether you're looking to break into aerospace or simply seeking fresh perspectives on your current role, this episode delivers insights that transcend terrestrial boundaries.Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

Drowning in digital clutter? You're not alone. In this practical deep-dive, Andy and Jeff share the productivity systems that have transformed their professional lives as network engineers.We explore how Asana's Kanban-style boards create visual workflow management that prevents important tasks from falling through the cracks. Whether you're managing podcast production or complex network projects, seeing your work move from "ideas" to "completed" provides both clarity and satisfaction.Knowledge management gets a critical examination as we contrast traditional tools like OneNote with newer Markdown-based systems like Obsidian. The key revelation? Portability matters. As your career evolves across different companies and platforms, keeping your accumulated knowledge accessible becomes increasingly important. We share practical strategies for ensuring your technical documentation remains both organized and retrievable regardless of where life takes you.For visual thinkers, mind mapping emerges as a powerful solution for tackling complex problems. Andy demonstrates how transforming linear documentation into spatial relationships helped him decode complicated processes and organize complex content strategies. These visual frameworks provide an entirely different perspective on challenges that can feel overwhelming in traditional formats.Perhaps most valuable is our discussion of task management simplification. Microsoft To-Do with a "brain dump" approach helps maintain focus amid overwhelming possibilities by extracting just three priority items each day from your master task list. This practical technique has proven transformative for managing both daily tasks and longer-term projects.Whether you're struggling with note organization, project management, or simply finding focus amid information overload, this episode offers practical solutions you can implement immediately. The technology landscape constantly evolves, but with the right productivity system, you can transform information chaos into organized knowledge that supports both daily tasks and long-term career growth.Join our Discord community at "It's All About the Journey" to continue the productivity discussion and share your own favorite tools and techniques!Send us Fan Mail Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

Beyond the sundecks and buffet lines lies a technological marvel most cruise passengers never consider - the complex network infrastructure keeping these floating cities connected and operational. In this fascinating conversation with Will Robbins, we dive deep into the unique challenges and solutions of maritime networking that blend hospitality technology with critical operational systems.Have you ever wondered how thousands of cruisers can simultaneously post vacation photos from the middle of the ocean? Modern cruise ships deploy an impressive array of connectivity solutions - up to 15 separate connections including both traditional satellites and multiple Starlink antennas working in concert. This connectivity ballet must account for both the ship and satellites being in constant motion while managing variable weather conditions. The reduced latency of Starlink connections (150-250ms versus 500ms) has revolutionized the passenger experience, enabling video calls and remote work capabilities that were previously impossible.What surprises most network professionals is the scale of onboard infrastructure. Each vessel houses a complete data center with 10-15 racks of equipment supporting everything from guest services to critical ship operations. These floating data centers must function independently since cloud-based applications would be unreliable with satellite connections. Adding to the complexity, the all-metal construction creates wireless challenges requiring thousands of access points while radar systems limit available wireless frequencies. The conversation explores security considerations unique to maritime environments, including the practice of using different networking vendors across ships to prevent fleet-wide vulnerabilities. We also examine how these networks prioritize traffic, with casino operations receiving highest priority as major revenue generators. Whether you're a networking professional curious about specialized environments or a cruise enthusiast wondering how your vacation technology works, this episode offers rare insights into the engineering behind modern maritime adventures. Ready to see cruise ships through entirely new eyes?Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

Artificial intelligence isn't just a buzzword anymore. It's fundamentally changing how we approach networking and IT infrastructure. In the inaugural "Whitreboard Wednesday episode, Jeff Clark joins Andy to demonstrate practical AI applications that are transforming everyday tasks for network engineers.Jeff walks through powerful tools like Google's Notebook LM, which creates comprehensive mind maps from your content, making connections you might never notice on your own. The demonstrations are stunning: an AI that can look at a simple network diagram and generate perfect configuration files for Fortinet devices within minutes, or create an interactive resume website complete with working features in less time than it takes to make a cup of coffee.What makes this conversation especially compelling is Andy's journey from AI skeptic to enthusiast. Like many professionals, he initially feared AI would replace rather than enhance human capabilities. Now he's leveraging these tools to build his own SaaS product with minimal coding knowledge—something that would have required a team of developers and substantial funding just a few years ago.The hosts don't shy away from discussing legitimate concerns either. As a security professional, Jeff highlights the risks of feeding proprietary information into public AI systems and explains how organizations are navigating these challenges through internal tools and proper guardrails.Whether you're an AI novice or have been experimenting with these tools for months, this episode offers practical insights you can immediately apply to your workflow. As Jeff points out, understanding AI isn't just about keeping up with technology—it's about ensuring your skills remain relevant in a rapidly evolving landscape.Ready to multiply your productivity and unlock new possibilities? Check out our YouTube channel to see these demonstrations in action and join our Discord community to continue the conversation about how AI is reshaping our profession.Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

The networking industry stands at a crossroads where traditional command-line mastery meets modern automation requirements. Few professionals embody this intersection better than Muna Chimso, a Network Automation Engineer at Google who joins us to share his remarkable journey and insights.Muna's story begins in Nigeria, where fixing his mother's phone sparked an early interest in technology. After moving to the United States in 2018 to study Computer Networking and IT, he made a critical observation that would shape his career path: while he loved networking fundamentals, the job market increasingly demanded coding skills even for networking positions. Rather than choosing between his passion for networking and the industry's direction toward software, Muna embraced both, building a rare and valuable skill set that combines deep networking knowledge with programming expertise.What makes Muna's perspective particularly valuable is his unique vantage point as a young professional who entered the field with fresh eyes. He shares how Google's Network Residency Program brings new graduates into the networking world, addressing the challenge of attracting young talent to a field often overshadowed by pure software engineering roles. We explore the evolving relationship between network engineers and developers, with fascinating insights into how companies are bridging this gap, from pairing traditional engineers with developers to incentivizing networking professionals to learn coding through bonuses and recognition programs.The conversation takes a thought-provoking turn when Muna suggests that the future of network engineering isn't about memorizing commands but understanding complex systems at scale. "You won't need to type a BGP command anymore," he notes, highlighting how the value of network professionals is shifting from configuration expertise to systems thinking and problem-solving abilities. While automation and AI handle increasingly complex tasks, the human element remains irreplaceable for understanding business problems and designing appropriate solutions.Whether you're a seasoned network veteran considering how to evolve your skills, a student wondering which path to pursue, or a technology leader building teams for the future, this episode offers invaluable insights into the convergence of networking and software development. Subscribe now and join our community at linktree.com/artofneteng to continue the conversation!Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

Consulting Engineers (CEs) at networking vendors blend deep technical expertise with customer-facing skills to bridge the gap between account managers and specialized solution design. They operate as specialists who support Sales Engineers when customer requirements demand deeper technical knowledge.• CEs often join from traditional network engineering backgrounds or increasingly through vendor graduate programs• The role provides higher impact by influencing entire industries rather than just one company• CE positions typically offer better compensation than operational networking roles• Computer science education rarely covers networking fundamentals, creating an industry knowledge gap• The autonomy of the CE role allows for continuous learning and specialization while maintaining customer contact• Working at a vendor provides exposure to bleeding-edge technology and broader industry perspectives• Soft skills are equally important as technical skills for success in consulting engineeringIf you're interested in transitioning to a Consulting Engineer role, develop your soft skills and build relationships in the networking community, as these connections are invaluable. Reach Colin Doyle and Jared Cordova on LinkedIn to learn more about consulting engineering opportunities.Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

The divide between network engineers and developers has long been a source of frustration, misunderstanding, and blame in the tech world. When applications fail, the classic refrain "it's the network" often echoes through organizations, leaving network engineers scrambling to prove their innocence while developers remain convinced of their code's perfection.In this enlightening conversation, former Cisco developer advocate Erika Dietrick joins hosts Andy Lapteff and Jeff Clark to unpack the root causes of this technological rift. Erika offers a rare dual perspective, having worked both as a software engineer and in Cisco's Technical Assistance Center (TAC). She explains how educational paths create fundamentally different mindsets: "Developers learn to code, period. We do not learn how our computer works. We do not learn how the network works."Andy shares his personal struggles with learning automation, admitting to starting and quitting "every Python class on planet Earth." This prompts Erika's most valuable insight – that learning to "think like a developer" matters more than syntax or commands. The conversation explores how network engineers often find themselves drowning in daily operational tasks while being expected to add coding skills "for no more money," creating resistance to automation despite its potential benefits.The discussion takes unexpected turns through topics like cultural differences between teams, the challenges of breaking technical silos, and how AI might actually help bridge these gaps without replacing human expertise. Erika outlines her upcoming free course designed specifically for network engineers learning to code with AI – addressing the exact educational gap that has frustrated network professionals for years.Whether you identify more with Andy's automation struggles or Jeff's enthusiasm for Python scripting, this episode offers practical perspectives on healing the developer-networker divide. Subscribe to Erika's Youtube channel here: here:https://www.youtube.com/@erika_thedevSubscribe to our podcast for more conversations that tackle the human side of technology and join our Discord community at linktr.ee/artofneteng.Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

Network engineers have traditionally drawn a line between "our tools" and "developer tools," often rejecting powerful solutions that could dramatically improve our workflows. But what if we thought about tools the same way tradespeople do? A plumber wouldn't refuse to use a hammer just because it's "for carpenters" – so why do we resist Git?In this eye-opening discussion, we explore how Git – the version control system created by Linux founder Linus Torvalds – can transform how network teams manage configurations, collaborate on changes, and maintain system history. Far from being "just for developers," Git provides elegant solutions to problems network engineers face daily.Think about how many times you've emailed configuration files with names like "config_v2_final_REALLY_FINAL.txt" to your team, trying to track which version is current. As our guest William Collins puts it, "If you're versioning in the file name, you've already lost." Git eliminates this chaos by providing a structured approach to tracking changes that's actually remarkably similar to how routing protocols work – distributed nodes maintaining a consistent state through carefully managed updates.We break down the differences between Git (the technology) and platforms like GitHub (commercial services built on Git), demonstrate how branching and pull requests can formalize peer review of network changes, and show why you don't need to understand every Git command to start benefiting from it today. Whether you're backing up configurations, collaborating on documentation, or building automation workflows, Git provides the structure and accountability that network operations desperately need.Ready to stop emailing configurations and embrace a better way? Listen now to discover why Git isn't just for developers – it's for anyone who wants to work smarter.Send us Fan Mail Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

Have you ever felt like your networking knowledge stops at layer three? You're not alone. In this eye-opening episode, we dive deep into the world of firewalls with security experts Jeff Clark and Matt Lushner, exploring why these critical devices are no longer just "edge protection" but have evolved into sophisticated security platforms that every network engineer should understand.From simple port filtering to next-generation capabilities like deep packet inspection and application awareness, we unpack how modern firewalls have transformed network security. Matt and Jeff expertly guide us through complex concepts like zero trust architecture, explaining how firewalls now integrate with active directory, endpoint protection, and threat intelligence to create comprehensive security ecosystems.Ever wondered what a DMZ actually does? Or how firewalls can inspect encrypted traffic? We tackle these questions and more, making security concepts accessible for network professionals looking to expand their skillset. The conversation reveals why network engineers are uniquely positioned to excel in firewall management – your understanding of traffic flows and routing gives you a head start in the security world.The traditional boundaries between networking and security are blurring, with firewalls now replacing routers in many environments and security considerations becoming embedded throughout the network rather than just at the perimeter. Whether you're curious about career progression into security or just want to better understand how your network's protections function, this episode provides the perfect introduction to the fascinating intersection of networking and security.Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

Network automation remains one of the most polarizing topics in our industry. Despite years of being told it will revolutionize our work, actual adoption rates hover around a dismal 20-30%. Why the resistance? And is there finally a path forward that makes sense for everyday network engineers?In this candid conversation with Jeff Clark and Colin Doyle, we dive deep into the psychological and practical barriers that keep most engineers firmly rooted in traditional networking practices. Jeff shares how his "selfish automation" approach transformed a tedious 15-minute ticket process into a 30-second task, while Colin explores how modern intent-based networking is fundamentally changing what network automation means.The truth emerges that resistance isn't just about technical challenges—it's about cognitive biases like loss aversion and fear of job displacement. We confront the paradox that many engineers chose networking specifically to avoid coding, only to find programming skills becoming increasingly essential for career advancement.What makes this conversation different is our focus on practical, accessible starting points rather than theoretical ideals. You'll learn why small, personal projects that solve your immediate problems are the gateway to building automation skills, and how communities of practice can provide the support and accountability needed to progress.Whether you're automation-curious or automation-resistant, this episode offers a refreshing perspective on how to approach this inevitable shift in our field. The future of networking isn't about replacing engineers with code—it's about freeing engineers to focus on what matters most.Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

With the rise of artificial intelligence and its significant demands on network performance, experts are increasingly asking whether Ethernet can catch up to InfiniBand as the preferred choice for high-performance computing.Join us as industry veterans Mike Bushong and Dr. Jay Metz share their insights on the necessity of open, flexible, and scalable networking solutions. Discover why many believe that Ethernet could be the platform of choice moving forward. As they dissect the need for innovation, collaboration, and competition within the ecosystem, our guests provide a forward-looking perspective on the future of network engineering.This engaging discussion ultimately encourages listeners to rethink their understanding of Ethernet's potential, examining the increased complexity required to meet the evolving demands of modern computational tasks like AI and HPC. For more details about what the work UEC is doing, go to https://ultraethernet.org/Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

The US Networking User Association's (PA)NUG podcast panel of William Collins, Andy Lapteff, Ned Bellavance, and Drew Conry-Murray highlights the evolving landscape of network engineering, focusing on the essential skills required for future success, including automation and cloud technologies. Panelists emphasize the importance of foundational networking knowledge, mentorship, and the integration of security into network design, while also addressing the challenges and opportunities presented by technological advancements.• Exploration of the changing network engineering landscape • Emphasis on the importance of automation and scripting skills • Discussion on retaining fundamental knowledge in networking • Insights on securing networks within cloud infrastructure • Importance of mentorship and continuous learning • Perspectives on the future of AI in network engineeringJoin the (US)NUA today:https://www.usnua.com/membershipSend us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

This episode explores the theme of change, drawing on personal anecdotes from the hosts as they navigate transitions in their careers and lives. The discussion highlights the importance of embracing change and automation in the ever-evolving tech industry, fostering resilience, and nurturing community connections.• Reflections on personal experiences of change • The evolution of the podcast amidst transitions • Importance of automation in today’s networking landscape • Navigating the emotional impacts of career changes • Suggestions for leveraging community for support and growth • Embracing vulnerability and creativity in facing fears Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

This episode discusses the complexities of VXLAN and EVPN in modern networking, highlighting the transition from traditional layer 2 designs to more efficient layer 3 systems. With insights from expert Aninda Chaterjee, listeners learn the importance of understanding underlying technologies for effective network management. • Personal experiences with home lab setups and troubleshooting • Explanation of VXLAN as a data plane encapsulation method • Challenges faced in traditional data center architectures • Transitioning from layer 2 to layer 3 using leaf and spine architectures • How EVPN enhances VXLAN functionality by managing MAC addresses • Importance of understanding technology for effective troubleshooting • Aninda’s insights on becoming a technical author in the networking fieldSend us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

What if the future of network engineering hinges on curiosity and adaptability? Join us for an enlightening discussion with Nicholas Calcutti as we navigate the fascinating evolution of networking technologies. Nicholas, with his impressive journey from a desktop support technician to a doctoral student, shares invaluable insights into the triumphs and trials of the networking world. We chat about everything from the first email sent in 1971 to the intricate demands of managing AI HPC workloads. The transformation driven by software-defined networking and the necessity of foundational skills in a rapidly advancing landscape are at the forefront of our conversation.Throughout this dynamic exchange, we unravel the complexities of cloud networking, reflecting on the trials and triumphs of operating within platforms like Azure. Our discussion highlights essential skills for today’s network engineers, emphasizing the growing importance of cloud proficiency and automation tools. Nicholas and Kevin share personal stories of overcoming resistance to automation, underscoring the necessity of learning new skills like Python and Terraform. The dialogue also shifts towards the role of network engineers in the era of automation and AI, contemplating the future viability of the profession amid these technological shifts.Finally, we explore the intriguing balance between specialization and generalism in networking careers. The impact of cloud technologies on IT roles sparks a lively debate, particularly as companies like Twitter reconsider full cloud adoption. Nicholas and Kevin weigh in on the pros and cons of cloud computing, discussing cost, control, and the potential of hybrid solutions. Our discussion is peppered with anecdotes that illuminate the challenges and opportunities in the networking field, offering a hopeful perspective on nurturing curiosity and problem-solving in future generations of network engineers. Nic's presentation can be found here:Tech Coast Conference Slide DeckDon't forget to follow us on social media and check out our website for more insights and updates!Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

What if you could revolutionize your network infrastructure while overcoming the limitations of IPv4? Join us for an enlightening discussion with network engineering stalwarts Kevin Myers, Ed Horley, and Chris Miles as they unpack the complexities of IPv6 adoption. With Kevin's hands-on experience in both service provider and enterprise environments, Ed's insights from the California v6 Task Force, and Chris's unique journey from traditional network engineering to the cloud, we reveal the hidden intricacies and persistent challenges that have slowed the transition from IPv4. Our conversation navigates the entrenchment of temporary fixes like CIDR and NAT and the pressing need for a shift to IPv6 in an era of growing broadband demands.Delve into the real-world challenges of IPv6 implementation, particularly in regions like Asia, where the scarcity of IPv4 addresses is palpable. Explore the nuances of carrier-grade NAT and its implications on performance and network complexity, especially as broadband speeds soar. We'll discuss the tangible benefits IPv6 brings to enterprises, from security enhancements to innovative network topologies that defy the constraints of NAT. Our guests share compelling anecdotes and lessons learned from their professional journeys, offering a roadmap for navigating this critical technological evolution.Dive into the often unnoticed world of IPv6 in mobile internet usage, where many users unknowingly traverse this protocol daily. We'll highlight pioneering examples like Facebook's early adoption and explore the security advantages IPv6 offers, such as mitigating DDoS attacks with its vast address space. As we reflect on the mental shift required for network engineers transitioning to IPv6, our discussion underscores the importance of continuous learning and adaptation. This episode promises to equip you with the insights needed to embrace IPv6, ensuring your network infrastructure is future-ready and resilient.Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

What if you could simplify your entire networking infrastructure with one holistic solution? Join us in this episode as we sit down with Anil, the visionary CEO of Meter, to uncover how his company is revolutionizing the networking industry. With a fresh perspective on hardware and software integration, Anil shares his journey from a network engineer to a leader at the forefront of innovation, offering products that give engineers complete control and visibility over their networks. Discover Meter's unique offerings, like the Connect marketplace for ISPs and intuitive natural language commands that are set to transform user experience.We explore the strategic advantages of being a startup in a field dominated by legacy players. Anil reveals how Meter sidesteps the technical debt faced by older companies, providing superior products and aligning incentives with customer needs. By taking on capital risks and eliminating hardware costs, Meter distinguishes itself from traditional vendors who focus on hardware sales margins. Listen as Anil discusses the long-term contracts that ensure a return on investment and the unwavering commitment to exceptional service that sets Meter apart.Anil explains the significance of trust when integrating new vendors into existing systems and highlights the innovative ISP marketplace feature that eases the management of network services. Addressing common concerns about automation and cloud technologies, Anil reassures listeners that these advancements are meant to enhance, not replace, jobs. Tune in to learn how Meter's solutions, from streamlined network service management to cost-saving recommendations, are redefining the landscape of network engineering and education.For more info on Meter's solutions:www.meter.comConnect: www.meter.com/connect Command: www.meter.com/commandSend us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

What if the future of network engineering isn't just about cables and hardware, but about mastering the cloud and cybersecurity? Join me, Andy Lapteff, as I sit down with industry giants William Collins and Scott Robohn to uncover the secrets of thriving in this ever-evolving field. William, now a cloud automation expert at Alkira, takes us through his journey from systems administrator to a key player in multi-cloud network software, and shares insights from his own podcast, the Cloud Gambit. Meanwhile, Scott shares wisdom from his 35-year career in networking, offering a unique perspective on how to navigate the industry's seismic shifts with optimism and foresight.As the realm of network engineering transforms, we examine the commoditization of networking as a utility and what it means for professionals in the field. Amidst the pressures of standardization and falling prices, the conversation turns to emerging technologies like 5G, 6G, and network security that promise new opportunities. We emphasize the timeless importance of core skills such as TCP/IP, even as the industry leans more towards software. We also delve into the 'cowboy' days of the 90s and 2000s, contrasting those times with today's structured and strategic approach, providing invaluable insights for both newcomers and veterans in the field.Technology never stands still, and neither should your skill set. We explore how to adapt and thrive amidst technological change, discussing how automation can enhance job satisfaction and ease the learning curve. We expand on the importance of foundational skills and certifications, like Cisco's CCNA, remaining relevant even as cloud and cybersecurity take center stage. Tune in to uncover how network engineering can be your stepping stone into lucrative emerging fields, learn how to leverage Python and Terraform, and understand the intricate dynamics behind cloud adoption. Let us guide you through the maze of AI in network engineering, as we dissect the hype and highlight the real innovations that could reshape our professional landscapes.Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

To learn more about Juniper Networks Apstra visit juniper.net/aoneUnlock the potential of AI Ops in data centers with insights from Shean Leigon, a senior product manager at Juniper Networks. Discover how AI operations, often seen as mystical, are instead practical tools that can enhance network engineering, especially in wireless and access layers. Shean delves into Juniper's strategic integration of AI through platforms like Mist and Marvis, offering a roadmap for data centers eager to embrace enhanced automation and reliability without succumbing to hype.Explore the nuances of Juniper's Apstra solution, designed to ensure your network's intended state aligns impeccably with its actual state. Apstra utilizes a cutting-edge graph database to maintain a clear network topology, effectively managing challenges like cabling mismatches and day-two operations. With Marvis, the Virtual Network Assistant, the complexity of data is transformed into intuitive insights for network operators, streamlining issue resolution and improving communication within organizations. Shean emphasizes the importance of service mapping in reducing downtime and highlights the tools that empower network engineers to tackle application issues with confidence.As the episode unfolds, the discussion tackles the integration of new security solutions in large enterprise environments, spotlighting the transformative potential of AI Ops in simplifying data correlation. Shean shares advancements in predictive analysis and impact assessment within data centers, underscoring the critical role of service awareness in prioritizing crucial actions. The conversation wraps up with a look at AI and automation's role in capacity planning and network maintenance, encouraging a healthy skepticism while acknowledging AI as a significant ally in the evolving landscape of network management.Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

Are you a network engineer wondering what’s next in your career? In this episode, we dive deep into various career paths beyond network engineering. From senior network engineer and architect roles to exciting vendor positions like technical marketing engineers (TMEs) and solutions engineers (SEs), discover how your networking skills can take your career to the next level. We cover the importance of certifications such as CCNP, CCDE, and cloud networking to keep your skills relevant in today’s tech landscape. Learn how to avoid burnout, the benefits of cross-functional communication, and how to position yourself for leadership roles like CTO or product management. Whether you're just starting out or looking to advance your career and make more money, this episode offers valuable insights and practical advice for every network engineer.This podcast episode is perfect for networking professionals and tech enthusiasts seeking growth opportunities in the ever-evolving IT field!Chapters-------------------00:00 Exploring Career Paths Beyond Network Engineering11:11 Transitioning to Vendor Roles in Networking14:32 Roles in Networking Beyond Engineering21:04 Technical Enablement and Post-Sales Roles33:40 Navigating Certifications and Vendor Roles39:51 Navigating Career Paths Beyond Networking52:22 Networking Career Opportunities and CertificationsSend us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

Discover the secrets to seamless wireless networking with our special guest, Alex Marquodont, a rising star in network engineering from Atomic Data. This episode promises to transform your understanding of wireless network design, from tackling high-density environments like Major League Soccer stadiums to mastering outdoor arena Wi-Fi. Alex's journey from a sysadmin to a Game Day Technologies specialist is nothing short of inspiring, and his passion for creating robust wireless solutions shines through every minute of our conversation.Get ready to dive deep into Wi-Fi network planning. We uncover essential strategies, such as the importance of site surveys and predictive modeling, and how these elements are crucial for designing effective, high-density wireless networks. Alex shares invaluable tips on collaborating with on-site personnel and balancing cutting-edge technology with client needs. From managing network traffic during events to ensuring 85% connectivity in crowded venues, you'll gain expert insights that can be applied to both enterprise and high-density wireless environments.Finally, we explore the unique challenges of outdoor arena Wi-Fi, including weather-related outages and the physical demands of on-site work. Alex's innovative solutions and anecdotes, like using turkey basters to remove water from enclosures, add a practical layer to the discussion. Plus, we delve into the world of wireless networking certifications and future-proofing your skills with the latest advancements like Wi-Fi 7. This episode is packed with hands-on advice and real-world experiences, perfect for anyone passionate about wireless network engineering.More from Alex:Alex's Blog: https://www.aomit.tech/Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

Get your copy of the book here: ebook or print copyEver wondered how you can simplify network management while boosting your confidence in code deployment? Join us in this enriching episode of the Art of Network Engineering podcast as we sit down with John Capiobanco and Danny Wade, the brilliant minds behind the book "Cisco PyATS Network Test and Automation Solution: Data-Driven and Reusable Testing for Modern Networks." These experts share the creative journey that turned a simple blog concept into a comprehensive technical guide, revealing the extensive process behind writing and editing their book. You'll gain insight into PyATS, a Python-based framework that promises to revolutionize network automation and testing, making it accessible even for those with minimal Python experience.Imagine having the power to automate your network tests and validate configurations with ease. That’s what PyATS brings to the table, and in this episode, we uncover its practical applications—from managing disaster recovery facilities to performing routine upgrades on ASA firewalls. Learn how PyATS integrates seamlessly with CI/CD pipelines, Ansible, and Robot Framework, and discover the future of network management with AI-driven functionalities like ChatGPT APIs. With step-by-step guidance on setting up a Python virtual environment and using PyATS commands, we make it simple for you to get started on your automation journey.But that's not all. We dive into the personal stories of John and Danny, exploring their transition from blogging to co-authoring a technical book. They offer encouragement to network engineers everywhere to start their own writing endeavors, emphasizing the importance of storytelling in making technical content engaging. Hear about the supportive community that has rallied around their project and learn how you can contribute to the conversation. Whether you’re an aspiring writer or a seasoned network engineer, this episode is packed with inspiration and practical advice to elevate your career.Read a free chapter and buy the book or eBook: https://www.ciscopress.com/store/cisco-pyats-network-test-and-automation-solution-data-9780138031671More from Danny Wade:Blog: https://devnetdan.com/X/Twitter: https://x.com/devnetdanYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DevNetDanMore from John Capobianco:GitHub: <a

Ever wondered what draws someone into the intricate world of networking? Join us as we sit down with Wendell Odom, a renowned Cisco Press author and networking expert, to hear his inspiring journey from a college co-op program at IBM to becoming a pivotal figure in networking certification. Wendell shares the moment he discovered his passion for networking, the milestones that shaped his career, and the transition from the dynamic corporate environment of the 90s to becoming a self-employed contractor. This episode promises to offer valuable insights for anyone curious about the early steps into a networking career and the fascinating evolution over decades.Navigating the complexities of teaching and learning in the networking field can be daunting, but Wendell’s experiences provide a clear roadmap. We discuss the challenges of developing lab courseware, balancing meticulous preparation with the unpredictability of teaching, and staying current with rapidly evolving technologies. Wendell opens up about dealing with imposter syndrome and the continuous learning required to remain a reliable resource. Whether you are a seasoned professional or just starting out, his reflections on transitioning from traditional textbooks to modern learning tools, and strategies like multimodal learning, will resonate deeply.Get ready to dive into the nitty-gritty of working with Cisco documentation and writing influential technical books. Wendell brings to light the often-overlooked intricacies of maintaining technical accuracy and the painstaking process of updating content. He also shares his thoughts on the future of networking careers in the age of AI and automation, offering practical advice for young professionals. From his extensive writing career to his exciting plans for a CCNA-focused YouTube channel, Wendell's journey is a goldmine of knowledge and inspiration for anyone passionate about networking. Don't miss the practical advice, personal reflections, and forward-looking insights from this industry veteran.More from Wendell:https://linktr.ee/wendelloSend us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

Could ADHD be the secret advantage in network engineering? Join us as we uncover this intriguing possibility with our special guest, ADHD life coach Henry Lam. Diagnosed with ADHD at 22, Henry’s journey into the world of coaching provides a deeply personal insight into a condition often misunderstood. We explore how traits like inattention, hyperactivity, and impulsivity manifest uniquely in adults, particularly those in demanding fields like network engineering. Henry offers invaluable strategies that can enhance focus and productivity, benefiting not just those with ADHD but anyone looking to optimize their professional life.Experience a paradigm shift as we discuss the evolving perspectives on ADHD from the 80s and 90s to the present day. Discover how individuals with ADHD can harness their creativity, innovation, and hyper-focus to excel in both technical fields and the arts. Henry shares practical tips for maintaining and regaining focus, including the importance of physical activities, mental exercises, and positive self-talk. These insights are not just theoretical; they are actionable strategies that you can implement today to boost your productivity and mental well-being.In our final segment, we dive into coping mechanisms for ADHD and burnout, emphasizing practices like mindfulness, meditation, tai chi, and yoga. Henry explains the critical role of the prefrontal cortex in managing focus and motivation and how structured physical activities can provide much-needed discipline. We also explore the distinctions between life coaching and psychology, helping you understand when to seek professional help. Wrapping up, Henry shares his journey to becoming an ADHD coach, offering guidance on finding the right coach and the significance of a supportive environment. Don’t miss this comprehensive guide to managing ADHD and maintaining mental health in a demanding professional world.Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

Curious about transitioning from traditional network engineering to cloud technologies? Craig Johnson's career trajectory is a masterclass in adapting to industry changes. We walk through his journey from handling ISDN and early internet complexities to mastering cloud-native tools like Terraform and CloudFormation. Craig highlights the importance of community involvement and practical learning for engineers hesitant to embrace the cloud. We also delve into how feedback loops between customer-facing roles and product developers can drive significant innovations and improvements in technology.What does the future hold for network engineering? Listen as we explore the impact of AI on the field, the rise of SDN and SD-WAN, and the incorporation of AI into certifications. Craig provides his take on the shift to open environments in 5G networks and the evolving role of LTE and 5G in modern networking. Our discussion also touches on content creation within networking communities and the rewarding journey of pursuing advanced certifications. Whether you're a seasoned professional or new to the field, this episode offers invaluable insights and inspiration for your career.Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

How do cognitive biases shape not only our professional decisions but also our personal interactions? In this episode, Mike Bushong shares his expertise on cognitive biases and his experiences transitioning to Nokia while working within data center technologies. We break down how our brains' natural shortcuts, like confirmation bias, can influence everything from our social media interactions to critical business decisions. By understanding these biases, we aim to foster more effective communication and collaboration, whether in high-stakes negotiations or everyday conversations.Mike and the team delve into practical strategies for making your presentations and pitches more persuasive by leveraging cognitive biases. From whiteboard tactics that feel spontaneous yet are carefully crafted, to storytelling techniques that lead your audience to their own conclusions, we explore how to make your messages stick. We also tackle emotionally charged discussions, such as political debates, by emphasizing empathy and recognizing the constraints others face. Through personal anecdotes and lessons learned, you'll gain insights on balancing skepticism with action and the importance of direct communication.We wrap up with a deep dive into the power of storytelling and constructive criticism in professional settings. You'll hear about a pivotal moment in my career when a colleague's candid feedback reshaped my approach to leadership and workload management. Mike also discusses the challenges of selling new solutions to committed clients, highlighting the necessity of understanding past decisions and guiding customers toward new choices. Whether you're a network engineer or just fascinated by the psychology of decision-making, this episode offers valuable strategies for improving your communication and problem-solving skills. Don't miss our engaging discussion on the Art of Network Engineering!More from Mike:https://x.com/mbushong Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng

Ever wondered how curiosity can reshape your career? Dale Wheeler’s journey from a forklift driver to a network engineer is nothing short of inspiring. In this episode, Dale walks us through how his inquisitiveness led him to shadow the IT department at his factory, eventually landing him his first help desk role. Dale’s story doesn’t end there; he later returned to his original employer with a fresh IT offer, proving that determination and hands-on learning can truly change your life. Alongside Dale’s narrative, we also share some personal updates, including Dan Richards' health improvements and Kevin's growing fame on TikTok.Another highlight of this episode is the continuous learning journey of one of our listeners who made a remarkable career leap similar to Dale's. We discuss the power of a growth mindset and how diverse study methods like video tutorials and Anki can be game-changers in tech learning. Our guest reveals the challenges he faced in balancing work and study, emphasizing his focus on Python and new technologies. This segment underscores the importance of ongoing education in tech careers and provides practical tips for those looking to break into the field.We then delve into the unique challenges and rewards of IT roles in manufacturing environments. From the complexities of setting up wireless networks in metal-filled warehouses to the impact of large electric motors on Wi-Fi connectivity, we cover the technical hurdles you might not expect. We also discuss the benefits of tech certifications and the evolving landscape of content creation on platforms like TikTok. Whether you’re interested in network engineering, IT certifications, or tech content creation, this episode offers invaluable insights and practical advice to help you succeed in these dynamic fields.Send us Fan Mail This episode has been sponsored by Meter. Go to meter.com/aone to book a demo now! Support the showFind everything AONE right here: https://linktr.ee/artofneteng