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Supernatural Then and Now

Story Mill Media / Realm·Hosted by Rob Benedict and Richard Speight Jr.·209 episodes

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In 2005, Sam and Dean Winchester set off on a road trip that would save the world and change television. For fifteen seasons and three hundred and twenty-seven episodes, the CW’s Supernatural (created by Eric Kripke) took audiences on a wild ride of family, fate, and faith with a rocking soundtrack and a seriously cool car. But that was then, and now … it’s time for another ride.Join hosts Rob Benedict (Chuck Shurley/God) and Richard Speight Jr (Gabriel and director of many episodes) for Supernatural: Then and Now, a winding road trip through every episode of this iconic series...

Why listen

Supernatural Then and Now is a companion rewatch for fans who want the inside story from people who were actually there. Rob Benedict and Richard Speight Jr. revisit Supernatural episode by episode, bringing in cast, writers, directors, producers, and crew for behind-the-scenes stories, production details, fan-favorite memories, and affectionate jokes. It is best for Supernatural viewers who want a guided rewatch with actor chemistry, convention-panel warmth, and real TV-making context.

Episodes

54 min
Jun 1, 2026Episode 3
I'm No Angel with Misha Collins (S9EP3)

Misha Collins returns to the podcast! He discusses Castiel being more human, feeling secure as a series regular on the show, and the SPN reunion on The Boys. This episode is a barrel of laughs!! Rob and Rich learn about Bartholomew. www.patreon.com/spnthenandnow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

50 min
May 25, 2026Episode 2
Devil May Care with Alaina Huffman (S9EP2)

Alaina Huffman joins the podcast to talk all things Abbadon. She plays one bad-ass knight from hell! Hear about stunt double hands, being naked in a tub, and cool costumes. Rob and Rich learn more about the bible. Rich wants to be Abbadon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 hr 5 min
May 18, 2026Episode 1
I Think I'm Gonna Like It Here with Tahmoh Penikett (S9EP1)

Tahmoh Penikett joins the podcast to talk about Ezekiel (and maybe another character). Tahmoh talks about his journey as an actor, meet fans at conventions, and Jared's influence on his performance. Rob and Rich learn about seeing things on your death bed. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 hr 2 min
May 11, 2026
FLASHBACK to In My Time of Dying with Jensen Ackles and Jeffrey Dean Morgan (S2EP1.2)

Here is a flashback to season 2, episode 1. Jeffrey Dean Morgan and Jensen Ackles join Richard Speight Jr. and Rob Benedict for the launch of Season 2 of the podcast. They dive into details about In My Time of Dying. These guys respect each other so much. Hear inappropriate stories from the set and about the new matching tattoos they just got. We'll be back with Season 9 on May 18th! www.patreon.com/spnthenandnow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

21 min
May 4, 2026
[REDACTED] S1E1: False Start (Part 1)

This is a new podcast we want to put on your radar! Introducing [REDACTED]; from Athan (The Grotto) and Jamie Petronis (The Cellar Letters) Following the death of his twin, failing actor Jacob Kane assumes his late-brother’s life in hopes of a fresh start. Instead of finding stability, Jacob finds himself working within The [REDACTED] Unit, a covert agency tasked with containing impossible creatures and phenomena. As he becomes entangled with paranormal forces and secret agendas, Jacob begins to discover a sense of belonging in a place he never expected. Equal parts horror and workplace satire, [REDACTED] takes inspiration from late 90s & early 2000s television like procedural monster-of-the-week shows X-files, Supernatural, and Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and the classic ensemble banter of Brooklyn Nine-Nine and Psych. Visit our website: https://theredactedunit.com/ Join the discussion: http://theredactedunit.com/discord [REDACTED] S1E1: False Start (Part 1) Jacob Kane makes a big life change Starring: Jamie Petronis as Jacob Kane Athan as Eli Reyes Dan Morris as The Strict Producer Jeffrey Reddick as The Anxious Screenwriter Karen Neat as Server James Spurney as as Phil (Landlord) Nathan Lundsford as Jordan Kane Harlan Guthrie as ■■■ Zoe D. Lee as ■■■■■ Ben Akira Spencer as Officer Ioana Adascalitei as Jody (Paramedic) General Show Warnings Recurring themes of violence and peril, horror, death and grief, sudden & unsettling audio, use of weapons, secret-police/cover-ups, strong language. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

50 min
Apr 27, 2026Episode 24
Season 8 Podcast Finale!

Rob, Rich, and Steve pick their 5 favorite episodes from season 8. It is an impossible task because 8 is great (and not Speight!). Jeremy Carver had a great first season as the showrunner of Supernatural. There are several iconic episodes. Which ones will make the list? Listen to find out! Subscribe on Patreon to watch the video. www.patreon.com/spnthenandnow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 hr 7 min
Apr 20, 2026Episode 23
Sacrifice with Mark Sheppard (S8EP23)

Mark Sheppard (Crowley) returns to the podcast to talk about the season finale of season 8 of Supernatural. Hear about him sitting in the chair, blowback for the opening scene with Kim Rhodes, and other behind-the-scenes stories. Rob and Rich learn angels being cast from heaven. www.patreon.com/spnthenandnow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 hr 5 min
Apr 13, 2026Episode 22
Clip Show with Curtis Armstrong (S8EP22)

iving legend Curtis Armstrong joins the podcast for a walk through the 80s and the deep dive into Metatron. So much is covered in this conversation. Rob and Rich learn more about the Old Testament. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

59 min
Apr 6, 2026Episode 21
The Great Escapist with Ben Edlund (S8EP21)

Ben Edlund returns to the podcast to discuss his swan song, the final episode he wrote for the show. Hear about the challenges of balancing multiple story lines, his thoughts on Sam's decline, and the appearance of Metatron. Rob and Rich learn a little something about curing demons. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

56 min
Mar 30, 2026Episode 20
Pac-Man Fever with Felicia Day (S8EP20)

It's so great to have Felicia Day back on the podcast! Her portrayal of Charlie Bradbury is an important brick in the wall of Supernatural. She discusses working with Bob Singer, the incident on set that made her leave her body, and working with Robbie Thompson. She also discusses her new book! Rob and Rick learn about dream-hacking. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 hr 1 min
Mar 23, 2026Episode 19
Taxi Driver with Guy Norman Bee (S8EP19)

You talking to me? Director Guy Norman Bee returns to the podcast to discuss this heavy episode. Sam is making his way through the trails, and like a true hero, has gone to hell and back. Hear stories about the graffiti, creating hell, and having an episode with such a big cast. It's great to see Bobby again! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 hr 1 min
Mar 16, 2026Episode 18
Freaks and Geeks with Madison McLaughlin (S8EP18)

Actor Madison McLaughlin joins the podcast to discuss her role as Krissy Chambers. She shares on the set stories about Jensen Ackles and John Showalter being paternal on set, the challenges of being young in Hollywood, and the joy of the SPN Family. Rob and Rich learn about movies where kids hunt monsters! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 hr
Mar 9, 2026
Goodbye Stranger with Rachel Miner (S8EP17)

It is always sad to see a character go in Supernatural, but it is always great to chat with Rachel Miner about our favorite television show. The pieces of season 8 are coming together! Hear from Rachel about her swan song with the show, flirting with...everyone, and how she got her start in acting. Rob and Rich learn about creepy crypts.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 hr 6 min
Mar 2, 2026
Pilot REDUX with Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles (S1EP1.V2)

We are solving a crime from the past. Rob and Rich never reviewed the pilot of Supernatural or gave it a beard rating, so we are going back to the first episode to fix this mistake. Rob and Rich finally rewatch (as opposed to watching for the first time) the first episode of Supernatural and give it the rating it deserves. Plus, listen to the original interview with Jared and Jensen all over again. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 hr 9 min
Feb 23, 2026Episode 16
Remember the Titans with Chad Kennedy (S8EP16)

You may not see his name in the credits, but Chad Kennedy had a big hand in the execution of Supernatural. A fan of the series from the start, Chad served as the supervising executive from Warner Brothers for 11 seasons. Hear how he got his start in the business, insider info on Warner Brothers, and why the themes of this episode served as an analogy for the season. Rob and Rich remember the titan Prometheus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

55 min
Feb 16, 2026Episode 15
Man's Best Friend with Benefits with Todd Aronauer (S8EP15)

Producer Todd Aronauer returns to the podcast to break down the post-production craft behind Supernatural’s “Man’s Best Friend with Benefits.” From refining pacing, to visual effects, sound design, and emotional continuity, Todd reveals how the episode evolves from script to screen. The trio discuss Chritian Campbell and Mischael Morgan's stellar performances. Rob and Rich get familiar with "familiars." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 hr 2 min
Feb 9, 2026Episode 14
Trial and Error with Kevin Parks (S8EP14)

Kevin Parks, long time assistant director, joins the podcast to discuss his directorial debut on Supernatural. We love how the middle of Season 8 is such a shift for the Supernatural team, with so many of them getting a chance to try new roles on set. Kevin discusses working with Jared and Jensen, flexing new muscles, and hell-hounds. Rob and Rich learn about divine trials. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 hr 6 min
Feb 2, 2026Episode 13
Everybody Hates Hitler with Adam Rose (S8EP13)

Adam Rose joins the podcast for this fan favorite episode. He, Rob and Rich discuss shooting on set, Adam's approach to the role, and Nazi Nercomancers. Rob and Rich learn what a Golem is. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 hr 7 min
Jan 26, 2026Episode 12
As Time Goes By with Serge Ladouceur (8EP12)

Serge Ladouceur returns to the podcast. This time not as Cinematographer by as a director! He, Rob, and Rich dig into this fan favorite episode. We hear about the excellent performances of Gil McKinney and Alaina Huffman. We hear the story of how Serge got bumped up and what didn't make it into the episode. Rob and Rich learn cool things about demons. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 hr 5 min
Jan 19, 2026Episode 11
LARP and the Real Girl with Brad Creasser (S8EP11)

Brad Creasser returns to the podcast to discuss his turn as Cinematographer on this fan favorite episode. They discuss the joy of working with Felicia Day and her return to the role of Charlie Bradbury. They celebrate late director Jeannot Szwarc. Rob and Rich learn a little something about Celtic trees. Subscribe to our Patreon to get access to videos, live-streams, and bonus content. https://www.patreon.com/cw/SPNthenandnow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

57 min
Jan 12, 2026Episode 10
Torn and Frayed with Tyler Johnston (S8EP10)

Tyler Johnston, who played Samandriel, joins the podcast to discuss his role and experience with the show. The team discusses the thing on Samandriel's head, the joy of coming back as a guest actor, screaming, and hijinks. Do you think Matt Pike (Bugs) grew up to be Samandriel's vessel? #hotdogs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 hr 20 min
Jan 5, 2026Episode 9
Citizen Fang with Jimmy Pickel (S8EP9)

Editor Jimmy Pickel joins the podcast to talk about his experience editing Citizen Fang. The conversation covers his start with the show, how he can enhance a moment, the inner-workings and politics of the post team (I can't imagine Phil mad). Rob and Rich learn a little something about local vampire lore in Louisiana. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

58 min
Dec 22, 2025Episode 8
Hunteri Heroici with Mark Meloche (S8EP8)

Visual Effects Supervisor Mark Meloche joins us for today's looney episode. Sam and Dean get wrapped up in the world of cartoons when they re-connect with a psychokinetic, played by Mike Farrell. The conversation dives deep into the visual effects of the show, and reminisce about what a great family the crew is. Rob and Rich learn what psychokinetic is. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 hr 6 min
Dec 15, 2025
Kings of Con Throwback: Alexander Calvert

Conventions, holidays, and family matters got in the way of getting the next Supernatural Then and Now episode out on time. However, this week in its place please enjoy this throwback episode to 2020 when Rob and Rich interview Alex Calvert for the Kings of Con podcast. They did into all things Alex, and it's wild to look back to life in 2020. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

58 min
Dec 8, 2025Episode 7
A Little Slice of Kevin with Lauren Tom (S8EP7)

Lauren Tom doesn't just play Kevin's mom, she lit up screens in the Joy Luck Club and Bad Santa. Plus her voice is featured in King of the Hill and Rick and Morty. It is such an honor to have her on the podcast to talk about her role as Linda Tran. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 hr 2 min
Dec 1, 2025Episode 6
Southern Comfort with Adam Glass (S8EP6)

Writer Adam Glass returns to the podcast to discuss this monster-of-the-week episode. The guys bond over all being sons of the south, the mythology of specters, and the fun of writing for DJ Qualls. Plus, Adam gives us a little info about the new project he has works with Andrew Dabb. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 hr 3 min
Nov 24, 2025Episode 5
Blood Brother with Ty Olsson (S8EP5)

Ty Olson, who plays Benny Lafitte on Supernatural, joins the podcast to share some great behind the scenes stories. They get into purgatory, the relationship with Dean, and Sam's girlfriend. Rob and Rich are surprised to learn their is a hierarchy of angels. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 hr 9 min
Nov 17, 2025Episode 4
Bitten with Brad Creasser (S8EP4)

Camera Operator Brad Creasser joins the show for this episode to discuss the "found footage" format. This episode dives deeper into Supernatural's werewolf mythology. Rob and Rich face-off on their points of view on the show. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 hr 8 min
Nov 10, 2025Episode 3
Heartache with Michael Lawshe (S8EP3)

You asked for it and you got it! Sound master Michael Lawshe returns to the podcast with his bag of tricks. Hear how he creates those eerie heart beats, sounds of ripping flesh, and creating environment. He shares about collaborating with director, Jensen Ackles. This one is a treat for the ears, so be sure to listen in you 7.1 Dolby home theater. If you don't have one of those, headphones would work too. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

55 min
Nov 3, 2025Episode 2
Whats Up, Tiger Mommy with Andrew Dabb (S8EP2)

Andrew Dabb returns to the podcast to discuss all the changes in season 8, Benny, Kevin Tran, and Linda Tran. How much do you think dwarves gold is worth? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 hr 7 min
Oct 27, 2025Episode 1
We Need To Talk About Kevin with Osric Chau (S8EP1)

Join Rob and Rich as we kick-off season 8 of the podcast. They are joined by Osric Chau to discuss prophets, purgatory, and pandemonium. Osric dives deep into the role of Kevin. We also get all the details about the legendary wrestling match with Jared Padalecki. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

46 min
Oct 6, 2025Episode 26
Season 7 Podcast Finale

Rob, Rich and Steve pick their top 5 from season 7. Trae pops in to share his thoughts too. Hilarity ensues. Plus, they pick their favorite episode from season 7. Can you guess what it is? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 hr 3 min
Sep 29, 2025Episode 25
Spotlight on Sera Gamble

Sera Gamble worked on Supernatural for 7 years and ran the show for seasons 6 and 7. She went on to create such hits as The Magicians and You. She joins the podcast and shares stories about her start with the series, lessons from Bob and Eric, and her favorite episodes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

49 min
Sep 22, 2025Episode 24
Spotlight on James Patrick Stewart

Season 7 wouldn't be complete without a conversation with James Patrick Stewart. We learn his secret to creating Dick Roman, his favorite moments from the season, all things leviathan, and how he got his start in acting. Rob and Rich nerd out a bit. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 hr 8 min
Sep 16, 2025Episode 23
Survival of the Fittest with Bob Singer, Plus Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles (S7EP23)

We've made it to the season 7 finale of Supernatural. We had a great conversation with Bob Singer about this episode and the entire season 7. We delve into the look of the Leviathan, the return of Baby, saying goodbye to Bobby, and the awesomeness of Rachel Miner. Plus, Jared and Jensen pop in to share some thoughts on season 7. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 hr 1 min
Sep 16, 2025Episode 22
There Will Be Blood featuring Guy Norman Bee (S7EP22)

Director Guy Norman Bee joins us for the penultimate episode of Season 7 of the show. We dig into the Alpha Vampire, fun easter-eggs, and why corn syrup is the perfect bad guy. Rob and Rich are sad that Deborah unsubscribed from Patreon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 hr 1 min
Sep 13, 2025Episode 22
There Will Be Blood with Guy Bee (S7EP22)

Director Guy Norman Bee joins us for the penultimate episode of Season 7 of the show. We dig into the Alpha Vampire, fun easter-eggs, and why corn syrup is the perfect bad guy. Rob and Rich are sad that Deborah unsubscribed from Patreon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 hr 1 min
Sep 8, 2025Episode 22
There Will Be Blood with Guy Bee (S7EP22)

Director Guy Norman Bee joins us for the penultimate episode of Season 7 of the show. We dig into the Alpha Vampire, fun easter-eggs, and why corn syrup is the perfect bad guy. Rob and Rich are sad that Deborah unsubscribed from Patreon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

50 min
Sep 1, 2025Episode 21
Reading Is Fundamental with Ben Edlund (S7EP21)

Writer and director Ben Edlund returns to the podcast to this fantastic episode. They dig into the introduction of Kevin Tran, the leviathan, and the end of season 7. Rob and Rich discuss the "Word of Rob." "Pull my finger." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 hr
Aug 25, 2025Episode 20
Girl With the Dungeons & Dragons Tattoo with Felicia Day (S7EP20)

Finally!! We are at an episode we've been so excited to cover. Felicia Day joins the podcast, and we discuss her introduction to Supernatural, Charlie Bradbury, behind-the-scenes moments, and casting a "Felicia Day Type." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 hr 2 min
Aug 18, 2025
Throwback Kings of Con: Felicia Day

In anticipation of Felicia Day joining the podcast for Girl with the Dungeons and Dragons tattoo, here is a throwback to when Rob and Rich interviewed Felicia on Kings of Con back in 2021. It does have profanity for those who listen with kids. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 hr 11 min
Aug 11, 2025Episode 19
Of Grave Importance with Brad Buckner & Eugenie Ross-Leming (S7EP19)

Writers Brad Buckner & Eugenie Ross-Leming join the podcast. They have an incredible career that started with the icon Norman Lear, then went to Scarecrow and Mrs. King, to Lois & Clark, and eventually Supernatural. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 hr 8 min
Aug 4, 2025Episode 18
Party On, Garth with DJ Qualls (S7EP18)

DJ Qualls, who you know as Garth, joins the podcast to discuss this fun episode. Hear about DJ's early career, Mr. Fizzles, and the joy of playing a hunter. Rich kills a spider. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

33 min
Jul 28, 2025
Spotlight on Genevieve and Jared Padalecki

When Genevieve popped into the interview with Jared it wasn't just 2 minutes it was a half hour! Here is the full conversation where they discuss Genevieve's time on the show, how she was nervous when she started, and why she was always going to Eric Kripke for answers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

59 min
Jul 21, 2025Episode 17
The Born-Again Identity with Todd Aronauer (S7EP17)

Producer Todd Aronauer returns to the podcast to discuss the return of Castiel. The team also discusses the evolution of the show and behind-the-scenes moments. Rob and Rich forget what amnesia is. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

30 min
Jul 14, 2025
Spotlight on Matt Frewer (Pestilence)

You know him as Pestilence. However, He became famous as Max Headroom. Hear his stories from the set. Rob is star-struck. www.spnthenandnow.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 hr 12 min
Jul 7, 2025Episode 16
Out With The Old with Mary-Ann Liu and Lee Anne Elaschuk (S7EP16)

Mary-Ann and Lee Anne worked as graphic designers on Supernatural for all 15 seasons. Hear how they interpreted the scripts, why their names often appear on documents in the series, and details on John Winchester's journal. Rob and Rich learn about curse boxes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

59 min
Jun 30, 2025Episode 15
Repo Man with Thomas J. Wright (S7EP15)

Thomas J. Wright directed 18 episodes of Supernatural. He is a living legend who got his start with Alfred Hitchcock and Rod Serling. Rich shadowed him on Supernatural. Rob and Rich learn about serial killers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

55 min
Jun 23, 2025Episode 14
Plucky Pennywhistle's Magical Menagerie with Jared Padalecki (S7EP14)

Jared Padalecki returns to the podcast for what might be the longest title of an episode we've ever had. He talks about his fear of clowns. Plus! A surprise guest! You'll never guess who it is. Here is a hint. She lives with Jared. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 hr 11 min
Jun 16, 2025Episode 13
The Slice Girls with Jerry Wanek (S7EP13)

Production designer and now director Jerry Wanek joins the episode. We dig into the Amazons, the Cobalt Room, and what it is like stepping into the big shoes on set. Rob and Rich learn how Amazons reproduce. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Best for: commutes, long drives, housework, rewatch companion, evening listening
Tone: nostalgic, conversational, funny, behind-the-scenes

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