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Somebody Somewhere

David Payne·Hosted by David Payne and Jody Gottlieb·42 episodes

SocietyCultureTrue CrimeSerialized true crimeSeasonal casesLegal investigations25-40 min/epStart from season 1

"Somebody Somewhere" is a true crime investigative podcast series from RainStream Media, Inc.  Season 3 is a 10-part series that explores the questions around the unsolved, 2003 death of federal prosecutor Jonathan Luna and the bank robbery he prosecuted where the cash evidence went missing after trial.  Season 2 takes listeners into the Seattle homeless encampment known as "The Jungle," as hosts David Payne and Jody Gottlieb investigate a mass shooting allegedly orchestrated by three teenage brothers.  And in Season 1, Payne and Gottlieb tackle the open federal investigation into the 2001 murder of federal prosecutor Tom Wales. This 18-year-old case remains one of the hig...

Why listen

Somebody Somewhere is a serialized investigative true crime show from David Payne and Jody Gottlieb, with each season digging into a different unresolved or contested case. It is built around reporting, interviews, court context, and close attention to official narratives that do not quite add up. Listeners who like case-focused investigations, legal angles, and slow-burn unanswered questions will get the most from it.

Series(3)

Episodes

23 min
Dec 1, 2022Episode 11
S3 Episode 11 (Bonus) - The Scorpion and the Frog

In this bonus episode, Payne updates everyone on Arky Tuminelli, Ken Ravenell, and Nacoe Brown.

34 min
Feb 19, 2021Episode 10
S3 Episode 10 (Bonus) - From the Prison to the Palace

In this Bonus episode, Nacoe and Vanassa Brown tell the story of the bank robberies and their personal love story.

31 min
Feb 19, 2021Episode 9
S3 Episode 9 - The Phoenix

In the Season 3 finale, Payne summarizes the evidence and debunks one of the FBI’s main theories.  And in a story of redemption and hope, Payne jumps in to help his new friend.

25 min
Feb 19, 2021Episode 8
S3 Episode 8 - The Missing Money

Key witnesses from the missing money case tell their stories for the first time, including the federal district court judge and Jonathan Luna’s co-counsel.

34 min
Feb 19, 2021Episode 7
S3 Episode 7 - Nacoe of Nazareth

Payne goes deep down the rabbit hole exploring Nacoe Brown’s claims about the missing money, and he’s inspired and confounded at what he finds.

27 min
Feb 19, 2021Episode 6
S3 Episode 6 - The Defense Lawyer

New (2019) allegations against Nacoe Brown’s defense lawyer for conspiracy give new light to claims that he may have been involved with the missing money eighteen years prior.

31 min
Feb 19, 2021Episode 5
S3 Episode 5 - Character Assassination

When Jonathan Luna goes missing, the press makes an immediate connection with a bank robbery case that he had tried the year before in which the cash evidence was stolen. And the cast from the Stash House Records case is back for this prequel.

28 min
Feb 19, 2021Episode 4
S3 Episode 4 - The Magic Knife

Leaked theories about a suicide don’t seem to square with the known physical evidence from the crime scene.

27 min
Feb 19, 2021Episode 3
S3 Episode 3 - Amazing Grace

Jonathan’s last case goes sideways on him when it is discovered that his cooperating witness was dealing drugs and terrorizing the neighborhood while working for the FBI.

32 min
Feb 19, 2021Episode 2
S3 Episode 2 - Stash House Records

Jonathan Luna was operating in a toxic work environment when he undertook the last trial of his life -- a federal drug conspiracy case against two men selling drugs out of a rap music studio in Baltimore.

29 min
Feb 19, 2021Episode 1
S3 Episode 1 - Grey

Jody Gottlieb and David Payne team up again to investigate the unsolved death of federal prosecutor Jonathan Luna in 2003.  They talk with his friends and investigative reporters about Jonathan's life and its mysterious last six hours.

1 min
Feb 2, 2021
Season 3 - Trailer

Season 3 of Somebody Somewhere explores the unsolved death of federal prosecutor Jonathan Luna in 2003.

32 min
Dec 19, 2019Episode 10
S2 Episode 10: The Verdict

In this special epilogue episode, Payne is back in court for the second retrial of the 2016 Jungle Murders, hoping to find resolution.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

28 min
Jul 30, 2019Episode 9
S2 Episode 9 - Groundhog Day

Armed with what they've learned, Payne and Gottlieb return to Kent for the retrial of the 2016 Jungle Murders in their search for the truth...and hope.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

33 min
Jul 23, 2019Episode 8
S2 Episode 8 - The Meeting at the Tent

One of the victims shares what she believes happened the night of the 2016 Jungle Murders when she was shot and critically wounded, and the pressure she is under to fall in line.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

29 min
Jul 16, 2019Episode 7
S2 Episode 7 - Who are the Good Guys?

Payne and Gottlieb explore the King of the Jungle's claims of piety and stumble upon a firefighter who's been burned by his encounter with him.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

29 min
Jul 9, 2019Episode 6
S2 Episode 6 - The New King of the Jungle

Payne and Gottlieb venture into the Jungle to sit down with its current King who claims he's found the Lord.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

34 min
Jul 2, 2019Episode 5
S2 Episode 5 - Run OJ Run

The government's theory of the case in the 2016 Jungle Murders trial is supported by ample evidence, but it appears to ignore the greater context of the Jungle and its history.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

27 min
Jun 25, 2019Episode 4
S2 Episode 4 - Phat Serves Fat

As the new King and Queen of the Jungle ascend the throne, the first hint of trouble comes.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

35 min
Jun 18, 2019Episode 3
S2 Episode 3 - Too Big to Fail

By design and nature, criminal trials are mere snapshots of an isolated event. Payne and Gottlieb go back in time to explore the roots of the 2016 Jungle Murders, including the federal indictment and takedown of the Vietnamese Gang that ran the Jungle's drug trade.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

35 min
Jun 11, 2019Episode 2
S2 Episode 2 - Out of Luck

As police try to find their "person of interest" in the Jungle Murders, an unusual informant comes forward to them to tell them he's solved the crime.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

38 min
Jun 11, 2019Episode 1
S2 Episode 1 - The Search for the King of the Jungle

After sitting in on the mistrial of the teenagers charged with the 2016 Jungle Murders, Payne and Gottlieb explore the political consequences spawned by the murders and begin their independent investigation into this unresolved, two-year-old case.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

40 min
Jun 5, 2019Episode 16
S1 Episode 15 - Don't F with the Kraken

As the Federal Government continues its public pressure campaign against Shawna Reid, it's starting to become clearer why.  Join David Payne and Jody Gottlieb as they unravel the latest details with the help from internet sleuth "The Kraken."See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

1 min
Jun 4, 2019
Season 2 - The Jungle Murders Trailer

Murder in a Seattle homeless encampment known as The Jungle. Three teenage brothers were charged, but are they the real killers? Only The Jungle knows. Join former federal prosecutor David Payne and producer Jody Gottlieb as they investigate. Somebody Somewhere Season 2: The Jungle Murders premieres June 11, 2019.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

33 min
Jun 4, 2019Episode 15
S1 Episode 14 - The Art of Being Right

After federal sources confirm to the Seattle Times our reporting of a connection between Shawna Reid and a convicted extortionist, Payne gives his educated predictions on what to expect next in this case.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

30 min
Jun 4, 2019Episode 14
S1 Episode 13 - The First Indictment

After 18 years, the government has made its first arrest. Investigators have charged 34-year-old Shawna Reid with lying to a grand jury and obstruction of justice relating to conversations she may or may not have had with someone bragging about the murder of Tom Wales. Payne and Gottlieb dig into the curious allegations.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

48 min
Jun 4, 2019Episode 13
S1 Episode 12 - Occam's Razor

In the second of four special epilogue episodes, Payne and Gottlieb uncover new information about the large sums of money being spent and made in the government's and Bell Helicopter Textron's joint efforts to ground 204B helicopters.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

39 min
May 30, 2019Episode 12
S1 Episode 11 - 204B or Not 204B

In the first of five special epilogue episodes, Payne and Gottlieb receive a mysterious envelope containing a 20-year-old investigative report from the Department of Transportation that leads them to dig further into the helicopter case that was at the center of the Tom Wales death investigation.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

1 hr 1 min
Apr 10, 2018Episode 11
S1 Episode 10 (Part 2) - For Whom the Bell Tolls

In the Season One Finale, Payne and Gottlieb travel to Texas where they meet with two key witnesses who finally explain what was really going on with Bell Helicopters Textron and the FAA, and how it allegedly relates to Tom Wales' murder.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

26 min
Apr 4, 2018Episode 10
S1 Episode 10 (Part 1) - The Unofficial Official Narrative

Payne recaps the current narrative that exists around the story and explores the key question of what FBI agents know and when did they know it.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

35 min
Mar 22, 2018Episode 9
S1 Episode 9 - The Karateew Matter

Payne and Gottlieb travel to Lynden Washington to learn more about a suspicious plane crash and to uncover just what was going on in Hangar 3.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

43 min
Mar 14, 2018Episode 8
S1 Episode 8 - The Nisha Call

Payne and Gottlieb explore the prime suspect’s alibi and other exculpatory evidence, as well as the lengths to which the FBI would go to get their man.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

41 min
Mar 7, 2018Episode 7
S1 Episode 7 - The Gun is the Key

Payne and Gottlieb examine the ballistics evidence through a new lens and new details that they have uncovered in their investigation.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

40 min
Feb 28, 2018Episode 6
S1 Episode 6 - The Prime Suspect

The FBI locks in on their prime suspect, a commercial pilot, whose threats against Wales were impossible to ignore. Payne and Gottlieb track down a critical witness who relates what happened before and after the murder.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

39 min
Feb 25, 2018Episode 5
S1 Episode 5 - The Assassination of Tom Wales

Payne goes deep into Wales’ 18-year caseload as a prosecutor to find anyone with a possible motive to kill Wales for his work.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

35 min
Feb 23, 2018
S1 Special Episode - DOJ Press Conference (2.21.18)

US Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein headlines press conference announcing increased reward in case. Why now? At 29:23, Rosenstein denies his appearance is related to the launch of our podcast 3 weeks ago.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

2 min
Feb 20, 2018
S1 Breaking News Update

The FBI has announced a press conference tomorrow in the case headlined by Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

41 min
Feb 14, 2018Episode 4
S1 Episode 4 - The Usual Suspects

Payne and Gottlieb explore and re-examine the prevailing theories on the motive of Tom’s killer including his personal life and work for the gun control movement in Washington State.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

43 min
Feb 7, 2018Episode 3
S1 Episode 3 - A Man Named Kimball

An FBI informant may hold the keys to who killed Tom Wales. Payne and Gottlieb travel to Colorado to learn what he told the FBI.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

21 min
Jan 31, 2018Episode 2
S1 Episode 2 - The Seattle Freeze

Payne and Gottlieb return to the crime scene to understand what happened and to chase down a 16-year-old lead.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

32 min
Jan 31, 2018Episode 1
S1 Episode 1 - Corporate Politics

In the inaugural episode, Payne and Gottlieb explore what went wrong with the police and FBI investigation after federal prosecutor Tom Wales was assassinated in his basement.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

1 min
Jan 1, 2018
Somebody Somewhere - Trailer

Coming in January 2018, an episodic investigation into the murder of Assistant United States Attorney, Tom Wales. This podcast re-examines the web of evidence and the FBI's efforts to track and arrest Wales' killer. After 16 years, the case remains unsolved, despite a $1 million dollar reward from the FBI. Join producers David Payne and Jody Gottlieb as they criss-cross the country searching for new evidence and leads.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.