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Sodajerker On Songwriting

Sodajerker·Hosted by Simon Barber and Brian O'Connor·327 episodes

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Sodajerker On Songwriting is a programme devoted to the art and craft of songwriting. The show, created and hosted by the UK songwriting team Sodajerker, features interviews with some of the most successful songwriters and musicians in the world.

Why listen

Sodajerker On Songwriting gives music fans a direct, craft-focused seat at the table with working songwriters, producers, and major artists. Simon Barber and Brian O'Connor ask about how songs actually get made, from voice memos and lyric notebooks to collaboration, arrangement, performance, and the pressure of writing at a high level. It is especially good for musicians, writers, and curious listeners who want more than celebrity chat and enjoy hearing artists unpack specific creative choices.

Episodes

52 min
May 31, 2026Episode 318
Sean Ono Lennon

Sean Ono Lennon joins Sodajerker to discuss The Great Parrot Ox and the Golden Egg of Empathy, the new sci-fi concept album from the Claypool Lennon Delirium. Sean talks about collaborating with Les Claypool, creating characters and mythology for the record, and exploring the dangers of artificial intelligence. We also examine the duo's use of wordplay, Sean's eclectic musical influences, and the lessons he absorbed from his parents.

52 min
May 14, 2026Episode 317
Matt Johnson

The The's Matt Johnson joins Simon and Brian to discuss his new book Cognitive Dissident, the idea of "method songwriting", and the way grief and personal loss have shaped his music. Along the way, this candid conversation touches on topics like memory, identity, authenticity and new frontiers of technology.

48 min
Apr 24, 2026Episode 316
Glen Hansard

Acclaimed Irish singer-songwriter Glen Hansard joins Simon and Brian to discuss his new live retrospective Don't Settle (Vol. 1 - Transmissions East) and his creative life. The Oscar-winning artist talks about writing songs that have a beating heart, why music should be both messy and true, but never clever, and the liberating experience of burning his notebooks.

49 min
Mar 27, 2026Episode 315
Mumford & Sons

Mumford & Sons' Marcus Mumford and Ben Lovett talk about the writing of the band's latest record, Prizefighter. The pair reflect on working with producer Aaron Dessner, the trust required to take creative risks as a band, and how collaborations with the likes of Hozier, Gracie Abrams, Chris Stapleton and Justin Vernon shaped the final record.

35 min
Mar 9, 2026Episode 314
Squeeze

Glenn Tilbrook and Chris Difford of Squeeze join us for a special episode to discuss Trixies, a remarkable concept album centred on a fictional London nightclub and built from songs the pair first wrote as teenagers. During the conversation, Chris and Glenn reflect on the experience of revisiting the work of their younger selves, and how their celebrated songwriting partnership has continued to evolve.

57 min
Mar 4, 2026Episode 313
Cory Wong

Guitar maestro and Vulfpeck collaborator Cory Wong chats about his new solo album Lost In The Wonder. The virtuoso musician, songwriter, and producer explains his approach to collaboration, how voice memos help him capture fleeting musical ideas, and why he believes in sharing more of the creative process with fans.

49 min
Feb 16, 2026Episode 312
Jill Scott

The fabulous Jill Scott sits down with Sodajerker to discuss her expansive new album To Whom This May Concern. The singer, songwriter and poet talks about the creative discipline behind the record, how her relationship with poetry continues to anchor her writing, and why the songs evolve every time she performs them live.

34 min
Feb 3, 2026Episode 311
Ryan Tedder

Ryan Tedder, songwriter to artists including Taylor Swift, Adele, and Beyoncé, and frontman of OneRepublic, talks to Sodajerker about tracking cultural shifts, writing at scale, and staying competitive in a saturated market. Drawing on his Nashville training and his apprenticeship with Timbaland, he breaks down his belief in craft, persistence, and instinct, and explains why writer's block only has power if you let it.

45 min
Jan 26, 2026Episode 310
Sleaford Mods

Jason Williamson and Andrew Fearn of Sleaford Mods talk to Sodajerker about their new album The Demise of Planet X. They discuss creating interplay between their words and music, making pop culture references work in songs, and integrating guest contributions from artists such as Aldous Harding and Gwendoline Christie.

57 min
Jan 13, 2026
Bonus: Jamie Cullum and Billy Bragg (Live)

At Anti Social Camp in November 2025, we recorded two special live conversations with music greats Jamie Cullum and Billy Bragg. It's a rare chance to hear a pair of brilliant and very different songwriters reflect on their craft in front of an audience of songwriters and musicians. Jamie talks about working with the Royal Shakespeare Company, the creative discipline of working to a brief, and how collaboration can unlock ideas you would never find alone. Billy shares his belief in songwriting as a way of building connection and empathy, drawing on a career shaped by honesty, community, and lived experience. Together, these conversations offer a warm, generous look at how songs are made, why voice matters, and how music continues to bring people together.

49 min
Jan 11, 2026Episode 309
Glass Animals (Live)

Dave Bayley of Glass Animals joins Sodajerker in London for a live episode recorded in November 2025 at the UK debut of Anti Social Camp, the world's largest songwriting camp. The singer-songwriter and producer reflects on the highs and lows of music-making, the strange magic of late-night ideas, and why vulnerability still matters in pop music.

57 min
Dec 23, 2025Episode 308
Adam Buxton

Multifaceted British writer, actor, podcaster and musician Adam Buxton ushers in the 2025 holiday season with Sodajerker by chatting about his delightful record, Buckle Up, produced by Joe Mount of Metronomy. From the challenges of writing jingles to the heartfelt themes in songs like 'Pizza Time' and 'Standing Still', Adam reveals the personal stories behind his catchy tunes and the unique blend of the trivial and profound that defines his work.

57 min
Dec 13, 2025Episode 307
Michael League

Snarky Puppy mastermind Michael League talks to Sodajerker about the band's new record, Somni, an exploration of the dream state through music. The decorated bassist, composer and producer discusses writing for a large ensemble, the balance between complexity and accessibility in his compositions, and his collaborations with legendary artists like David Crosby.

50 min
Dec 8, 2025Episode 306
Suggs

Madness frontman Suggs sits down with Simon and Brian to talk about the band's new Hit Parade compilation and the writing of their classic hits. From the whimsical charm of 'Baggy Trousers', to the poignant storytelling of 'Embarrassment', Suggs reflects on the balance of joy and pathos in songwriting, the influence of London's rich cultures, and the serendipitous moments that have shaped his artistic expression.

37 min
Nov 28, 2025Episode 305
The Last Dinner Party

The Last Dinner Party's Abigail Morris chats with Sodajerker about the band's new record, From The Pyre, and their songwriting process. The dynamic frontwoman explores the challenges of songwriting on the road, the evolution of their sound, and the collaborative spirit that drives their creativity.

42 min
Nov 24, 2025Episode 304
Paul Kelly

Australian music legend Paul Kelly talks to Simon and Brian about his latest record, Seventy, and his creative process. The decorated singer-songwriter discusses the role of boredom in songwriting, the interplay of joy and sorrow in his lyrics, and how he sets poetry to music.

55 min
Nov 14, 2025Episode 303
Baxter Dury

Baxter Dury chats with Sodajerker about the writing of his latest record, Allbarone, produced by Paul Epworth. This in-depth conversation delves into the duality of Baxter's artistic persona, the spontaneity of his lyric writing, and the playful approach to language that defines his work.

54 min
Nov 11, 2025Episode 302
Sigrid

The enchanting Sigrid sits down in London with Simon and Brian to talk about the writing of her latest album There's Always More That I Could Say. The Norwegian powerhouse shares insights on crafting memorable hooks, overcoming writer's block, and her collaboration with creative partner Askjell. This episode is also available in video form on Sigrid's YouTube channel.

46 min
Oct 28, 2025Episode 301
Say She She

The fabulous Say She She (Piya Malik, Sabrina Cunningham, and Nya Gazelle Brown) join Sodajerker to talk about their new album Cut & Rewind. In this lively conversation about creativity, connection, and the power of making music together, the trio describe how they've built a supportive space where ideas can thrive, enabling them to explore everything from personal experiences to pressing social themes.

1 hr
Oct 20, 2025Episode 300
Self Esteem

To celebrate our 300th episode, Rebecca Lucy Taylor, aka Self Esteem, joins us for a candid conversation about her multifaceted career as a singer, songwriter, and actor. With her trademark honesty, the acclaimed artist reflects on the creative process behind her latest album, A Complicated Woman, the pressures of songwriting, and the challenges of navigating the music industries.

42 min
Oct 12, 2025Episode 299
Labi Siffre

Labi Siffre talks with Sodajerker about his career in music and his songwriting process. The celebrated singer-songwriter reflects on his love of blues, jazz, and the Great American Songbook, shares the stories behind beloved hits like '(Something Inside) So Strong' and 'It Must Be Love', and explains why, after many years away from music, he still has an enduring passion for writing meaningful songs.

1 hr 1 min
Oct 4, 2025Episode 298
Mike Viola

In a landmark third appearance, the incomparable Mike Viola joins Simon and Brian in Liverpool for an in-depth conversation and live performance showcasing his distinctive guitar style and melodic craft. The episode explores Mike's songwriting process, the emotional weight of his lyrics, and the role of personal experience in shaping his music.

46 min
Sep 26, 2025Episode 297
Graham Nash

As he embarks on his 'More Evenings of Songs and Stories' tour, Graham Nash joins Simon and Brian for a fascinating discussion about his illustrious career. The legendary British musician reflects on his journey from The Hollies to forming the iconic Crosby, Stills & Nash, sharing insights into his songwriting process and the art of capturing everyday moments in music.

47 min
Sep 18, 2025Episode 296
Mac DeMarco

Mac DeMarco talks with Sodajerker about his songwriting process and his latest record, Guitar. The Canadian singer-songwriter reflects on his lo-fi, DIY approach to music-making, how personal themes of identity and home permeate his work, and why he definitely doesn't want to guest on your track.

56 min
Aug 22, 2025Episode 295
John Fogerty

John Fogerty sits down in London with Simon and Brian for a captivating conversation about his songwriting process and his new release Legacy: The Creedence Clearwater Revival Years. The legendary singer-songwriter reflects on regaining control of his publishing rights, the writing of classics such as 'Proud Mary', and the creative techniques that shaped his enduring catalogue.

47 min
Aug 20, 2025Episode 294
Finn Wolfhard

Finn Wolfhard joins Simon and Brian for a discussion about his debut solo album, Happy Birthday, recorded in Chicago and co-produced by Kai Slater. The versatile actor and musician reflects on the lo-fi production techniques employed on the album, how themes of youthful identity and anxiety permeate his songs, and his love for The Beatles.

49 min
Aug 6, 2025Episode 293
Sharon Van Etten

Sharon Van Etten chats with Simon and Brian about the collaborative spirit behind her latest album, Sharon Van Etten & the Attachment Theory, recorded with producer Marta Salogni at The Church Studios in London. The singer-songwriter and actress delves into themes of mortality and ageing, as well as the creative dynamics of working closely with her bandmates in the writing process for the first time.

41 min
Jul 11, 2025Episode 292
Black Country, New Road

Black Country, New Road's Tyler Hyde and Lewis Evans join Sodajerker for a conversation about the writing of their latest record Forever Howlong. The pair discuss the band's captivating lyrics, sophisticated arrangements, and how, with producer James Ford, they navigated the process of making something fresh after a period of change and instability.

55 min
Jul 1, 2025Episode 291
Jim James

My Morning Jacket's Jim James chats with Simon and Brian about the creation of their latest record, is. The celebrated vocalist and guitarist discusses the band's collaboration with producer Brendan O'Brien, letting go of ego, and the role of dreams in songwriting.

53 min
Jun 4, 2025Episode 290
Pete Doherty

Peter Doherty sits down with Simon and Brian to talk about his latest solo record, Felt Better Alive. From tales of rural French life to reflections on identity and memory, the ex-Libertines and Babyshambles figurehead discusses the balance of humour and melancholy in his work and the playful storytelling woven throughout his songs.

56 min
May 13, 2025Episode 289
Scissor Sisters

Scissor Sisters' own Jake Shears and Scott Hoffman (aka Babydaddy) join Simon and Brian to celebrate the 20th anniversary of their self-titled debut album. In this vibrant conversation, the pair reveal the surprisingly homespun creative process behind the hits, the magic that comes from embracing imperfections, and the importance of storytelling in their songs.

53 min
May 2, 2025Episode 288
Bonnie "Prince" Billy

Will Oldham, aka Bonnie "Prince" Billy, joins Sodajerker for an enlightening discussion about his latest album, The Purple Bird. With a career that spans over three decades, the beloved singer-songwriter and actor reflects on working with Nashville veteran David 'Ferg' Ferguson, rediscovering meaning in his extensive catalogue, and the art of putting secret passageways and trapdoors in his songs.

55 min
Apr 20, 2025Episode 287
Gary Barlow

Take That's Gary Barlow welcomes Simon and Brian to his London studio for a fun conversation about songwriting, performance, and the creative process. The celebrated artist discusses the authentic sound of his Songbook tour, how he cultivates studio collaboration, and the amazing songwriting advice he received from Swedish hitmaker Max Martin. Gary was also previously the guest for episode 180 of this podcast.

49 min
Apr 11, 2025Episode 286
Brandi Carlile

The remarkable Brandi Carlile joins Simon and Brian for an in-depth conversation about writing with Elton John on their new album, Who Believes In Angels? The Grammy and Emmy-winning singer-songwriter discusses the profound connection she feels with both Elton and Bernie Taupin, and the challenges and triumphs of bringing her childhood dream to life.

47 min
Apr 4, 2025Episode 285
Djo

The excellent Djo, aka musician and actor Joe Keery, sits down in London with Simon and Brian to discuss his terrific new record The Crux. During the conversation, the Stranger Things star explains his songwriting process, how he enriches his songs with personal stories and references to the music he loves, and the value of collaborating with his friend Adam Thein.

39 min
Mar 29, 2025Episode 284
Perfume Genius

Mike Hadreas, aka Perfume Genius, takes us inside the creative process behind his new record, Glory, produced by Blake Mills. During the conversation, Mike describes how he balances spontaneity with structure, the art of becoming a song detective, and why he writes his best work in 'goblin mode'.

47 min
Mar 22, 2025Episode 283
Tom Walker

Tom Walker shares his songwriting story so far and the challenges of making his recent second album I AM. The popular singer-songwriter also reflects on the importance of striving to realise a creative vision, his time spent studying songwriting at university, and the influence of his music-loving father.

42 min
Mar 13, 2025Episode 282
Inhaler

Inhaler's Elijah Hewson and Josh Jenkinson discuss the writing of their new record Open Wide and how the band collaborates creatively. Among other insights into their process, the Dublin-born musicians share their thoughts on the importance of finishing songs, working with producer Kid Harpoon, and why they're always thinking 'hook, hook, hook'.

55 min
Mar 4, 2025Episode 281
Franz Ferdinand

Franz Ferdinand's Alex Kapranos and Julian Corrie talk about the writing of the band's sixth studio album The Human Fear and their creative process. During the conversation, the pair explore themes of fear and spontaneity in their work, not being too precious about ideas, and why songs are like friends.

51 min
Feb 1, 2025Episode 280
Dan Smith

Bastille's Dan Smith talks with Sodajerker about his new concept album, Ampersand. The conversation delves into the fascinating stories of historical figures and fictional characters that influenced his writing, as well as the personal connections that shape his music.

58 min
Jan 1, 2025Episode 279
The Edge

U2's The Edge joins Simon and Brian to discuss the 20th anniversary reissue of the band's acclaimed record How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb, and its new 'shadow album' How to Re-Assemble an Atomic Bomb. The celebrated guitarist and sonic architect offers deep insights into the band's dynamic and their dedication to collaboration.

41 min
Dec 24, 2024Episode 278
The WAEVE

Graham Coxon and Rose Elinor Dougall of The WAEVE delve into the creation of their sophomore album City Lights, a listening experience filled with sharp musical edges and a deep sense of urgency. The conversation explores their collaboration with producer James Ford, and the thematic undercurrents of their work, from the city's dark underbelly to the intimacy of family life.

49 min
Dec 13, 2024Episode 277
Boy George

Boy George, the charismatic frontman of Culture Club, meets Simon and Brian in London to discuss his prolific songwriting and creative life. In this vibrant conversation, George talks about his recent collaborations with Peter Murphy and Dark Globe, his diverse influences, and the creative freedom he's found in reimagining his classic hits.

51 min
Nov 30, 2024Episode 276
Joan As Police Woman

Versatile singer-songwriter and producer Joan As Police Woman talks about her latest record Lemons, Limes and Orchids. During the conversation, Joan shares practical advice about taking writing workshops, creating artificial deadlines, and penning songs while riding her bicycle. She also reflects on why mentorship holds a special place in her life, and the influence of artists like Rufus Wainwright and Damon Albarn, whose work inspires her to push creative boundaries.

50 min
Oct 19, 2024Episode 275
Snow Patrol

Snow Patrol's Gary Lightbody and Johnny McDaid discuss the creative process behind the band's new record The Forest is the Path, which ventures into new territories musically and lyrically. The pair talk about the influence of literary greats like Seamus Heaney, their collaboration with producer Fraser T. Smith, and the liberating experience of writing music without constraints.

55 min
Sep 29, 2024Episode 274
Matthew Caws

Nada Surf's Matthew Caws talks about the band's latest record Moon Mirror and his songwriting process through the years. The singer and guitarist shares his routine of writing before his inner critic wakes up, how recording 'fictionalises' an idea, the importance of small moments of encouragement and validation, and the musical epiphanies he experienced growing up in New York.

49 min
Sep 15, 2024Episode 273
Kate Nash

Kate Nash discusses her latest record 9 Sad Symphonies and the challenges of being a creative artist in the contemporary music industries. Among other insights, the singer-songwriter and actress talks about the importance of mental health, the power of meaningful collaboration, and her unlikely friendship with actor Danny Dyer.

47 min
Aug 24, 2024Episode 272
Will Young

Will Young tells Simon and Brian about the writing of his new record Light It Up and the various collaborations that made it possible. In this lively conversation, the singer-songwriter, actor and writer reveals that he doesn't always need to have an emotional connection to his material in order to do justice to it, and explains why it's essential to enjoy the creative process.

47 min
Aug 15, 2024Episode 271
Bat for Lashes

Bat for Lashes (aka Natasha Khan) joins Sodajerker for a conversation about her absorbing new record The Dream of Delphi, which deals with the experience of becoming a mother during the pandemic. The multi-disciplinary artist discusses her approach to composition through improvisation, how she relates creatively to her environment, and the inspiration she draws from the movies of the 1980s.

55 min
Jul 24, 2024Episode 270
Sheryl Crow

Sheryl Crow sits down with Simon and Brian in London to discuss her latest record Evolution and her timeless catalogue of hits. The nine-time Grammy winner reflects on the influence of her musical parents, how social issues find their way into her songs, and the power of writing on the back porch.