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School of Podcasting: Expert Tips for Launching and Growing Your Podcast

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You want to start a podcast, but you’re unsure where to start. You need advice on how to grow or monetize your show, and stop being so scared that it won’t work! I can help by showing you what mistakes NOT TO MAKE and much more. Subscribe to the show and soak in the 18+ years of podcasting experience from Podcaster Hall of Fame Inductee Dave Jackson.

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School of Podcasting is the show for anyone who wants to launch, grow, or monetize a podcast without wasting years learning the hard way. Hosted by 18+ year veteran Dave Jackson, you'll hear from successful podcasters in candid roundtables, get practical strategies for audience building and affiliate income, and learn which industry hype is real. Whether you're brand new or running an established show, this is your education in podcasting as both craft and business.

Episodes

52 min
Jun 1, 2026Episode 1038
What the Death of Late Night Teaches Podcasters.

Why Joe Rogan Beat Late Night TVWhen I was a kid, hearing Johnny Carson’s theme music meant it was time for bed. Today, nobody has to stay up for anything. And that one shift explains a huge part of why late night is fading and why your podcast has to work harder to earn attention.Conversation vs Promotional AppearancesIn the early years of Johnny Carson, the show was 90 minutes and they actually had conversations as apposed to the "tell me about your family vacation, and let's roll the clip" interviews we see on late night showsAppointment Viewing is DeadThe days of "must see tv" on Thursday night died with the VCR and DVR. I haven't watched live TV in years. So now the audience that is staying up to watch live is much older (somewhere between age 60-70), and is about HALF of the audience comparing it to the days wheh David Letterman get almost 7 million a night.The Celebrity Mystique is GoneI once stayed up to watch B.B. King on the tonight show. Why? Because I couldn't hear him on the radio. I was too young to go to a concert. If I did that today and wanted to see Joe Bonamassa I wouldn't need to wait to see him on TV. I could see him on his YouTube channel, or multiple interviews on podcasts.#1 in Late Night is a Big Fish in a Much Smaller PondKeep in mind that Steven Colbert being #1 in late night in 2026 is way different than being #1 in late night in 1993. Late-night TV revenue has reportedly fallen from about $400 million a year to $200 million a year—a 50% decline—while some shows that once drew 7–8 million nightly viewers now struggle to reach 3 million.YouTube Doesn't Pay the SameAccording to one report, YouTube pays one tenth of what a network ad spot would go for. When you audience is cut in half, you have less advertisers. When the advertisers you have are paying you 90% less and your expenses stay the same that is a problem.Keep Control of Your ContentRemember big companies with big payouts WANT CONTROL. Conan focused on owning his content and that resulted in a 150 million dollar payout.Only Amazing Content Will Stand OutIf you want podcast growth, you need to make sure you are doing as many of the following as possible.Make them:laughcrythinkgroanMake Sure The ContentEducatesEntertainsSaves the audience timeSaves them moneyMakes them FEEL somethingIf it's information you can get any place else, even better. A great podcast can be boiled down to content and delivery. So this episode is focused on content.Be Ready to PromoteWhen someone says, "Oh, you do a podcast?" be ready to explain what it is, what i

51 min
May 25, 2026Episode 1037
Podcasters Share Best and Worst Platforms for Interviews

So many people need remote recording for co-hosts and guests. Yet in the 20+ years of podcasting once we get a solid solution, they upgrade the software and we're back to always having a backup "Just in case." So I reached out to my audience to see what they used and they chimed in.The HistoryBlog Talk Radio (now gone) was an EASY choice but sounded like the phone. There was Skype (also gone), but everyone needed an account, and for the technically challenged, it was intimidating. Squadcast came on with a winning strategy with a firm understanding of what podcasters needed. Make it simple. Make it reliable.Then Video Entered the PictureThen tools like Squadcast added video, and while I never had an issue I know people who spoke of "Drift" where the audio didn't line up with the video (making it look like a bad Godzilla movie). There are tools like Evmux (browser based), Ecamm (Mac Only), Descript (browser based), and Streamyard (brwoser based).Text Based EditingWhen Descript entered the picture with text based editing (you edit the transcript, and it edits the audio) it became impressive after a few years. They purchased Squadcast, but haven't implemented all the tech from Squadcast (like being able to schedule a future episode in their "Rooms.").All in One SolutionsThis is one of the symptoms of a "All in one" solution. They do most things about 75%, but the details in that last 25 is what makes the difference. Riverisde started as remote recording, added text based editing, clip generation, and recently podcast hosting (the podcast hosting is very basic see video as of May 2026).It May Not Be All Riverside's FaultI wrote a blog post about all the things podcasters could do to be ready to make great recordings with Riverside.If you want Riverside to work, don’t overcomplicate it:Solid internetUpdated browserDecent computerEnough disk spaceDon’t rush the uploadThat’s it.Do those things, and suddenly Riverside becomes “magically reliable.”What I Use For Live Streaming and RecordingBefore moving to a Mac computer, I use Streamyard, and loved it. When I got a Mac Mini, I switched to Ecamm. It's amazing and much you have more control over how things look. If you have a Streamdeck, you can do some pretty magical things. Worth that said, I'm considering going back to Streamyard even though it's $5 more a month (I used Ecamm for making recording for the School of Podcasting, but I now do those in Tella).What is The Most Reliable?For me, after talking with the School of Podcasting members and now hearing from the audience I would say Ecamm (mac only) and Streamyard (browser based).That doesn't mean Riverside, Evmux, Squadcast are not reliable, but I feel Ecamm and Streamyard are more reliable. They also are primarily focused on one thing RECORDING (althoug

48 min
May 18, 2026Episode 1036
How to Make Podcast Money Without Fame

So many people think the only way you can have a successful podcast is to be famous. Today we have a quick Interview with Jordan Blair from the Dreamful podcast and the Buzzsprout podcast Buzzcast. Jordan share all the straggles she is using to monetize her show.Jordan's Been Podcasting For Seven YearsThis didn't happen overnight, but you will hear where Jordan recommends starting monetization efforts from day one. This way your family and friends who want to support the show can actually chip in, and the audience gets used to hearing you ask for support.If you feel weird asking for value in return for the value you have given to the audience, keep in mind PBS has been doing this for decades.Where Do You Start?Jordan recommends starting off with enabling donations (technically a tip not a donation, unless you're a non-profit). Buzzsprout has this built in or you could use buy me a coffee, and many others. If you start with subscriptions, as you're just starting the show, it may be a little overwhelming and you end up making extra content for an audience that doesn't exist (yet). Just realize if you want people to chip in, you have to ask.You can see Jordan's support page here.Affiliate Links Are a Great TestWe talked about tools for using affiliate links in a previous episode. Affiliate links enable you to make a commission on a sale from someone using your special link. This is a great test and practice to get used to doing calls to action, promoting a product, and seeing what products your audience is interestedThe Pros and Cons of MerchJordan shares how she created some swag for her audience, setup a store and received absolutely zero sales. This is when she realized she should ask her audience what they want first before making swag. For more on merch sales check out my interview with Jayna Marie.First Person Endorsements Deliver Tons of ValueJordan's show is for kids who are trying to go to sleep. She found some puzzles and bought them and tried them. She knew this would resonate with her audience, and talked about her own experience with the puzzles and the affiliate links came flowing in.You Might Have to Take Partners to SchoolJordan explains that her first sponsor knocked on her door, and provided an offer. Jordan had to explain to them how partnerships work in podcasting (this isn't radio, and we have a much stronger connection with our audiences). She renogiated and came up with a dela that worked for everyone.She Didn't Plan on Making MoneyJordan started the Dreamful stories podcast as a resource for her own children. She launched it, and focused on delivering value and connecting with her audience. She found out what they wanted and delivered the show they wanted. This l

47 min
May 11, 2026Episode 1035
Apple Video: Smart Move or Time Sink?

A Dialogue with Justin Jackson and Alban BrookeJust in Jackson from Transistor.fm is so enthusiastic about Apple's new way to add video to their platform (called HLS). I have felt "Meh" about it since it was announced (I'm worried about using API's instead of using the RSS feed). So I wanted to see if I was missing something that might lead me to feel more like Justin.Later that same week Alban Brook from Buzzsprout reached out and so I combined the interviews to show multiple points of view about Apple's HLS implementation not that more hosts are being approved to connect to Apple via their API.Justin's View is Based On Younger PeopleWhile I have no children Justin has a few and he explained how watching them he sees them move from watching video to switching to audio. So the HLS video in Apple supports this (and it's already available on YouTube music, and Spotify. This explains why Justin would have a viewpoint different than mine.Dialogues are amazing, and you just might learn something. Try one today. They are free!Alban's View on The "Give People What They Want" focus of Apple PodcastsWhen you go to YouTube, they drown you in options as they try to get you to click on anything. With Apple's new video options, when you log into Apple, you primarily see the shows that you've told Apple you want to see. Consequently, it may be a better experience. Kevin Finn on the Buzzcast show compared YouTube and the horrible experience to going to the movies, where everything is overpriced and the floor is sticky. The experience isn't as good.Don't Take on Too MuchIf you're a video creator already, adding your show to YouTube seems like a no brainer, and Alaban and Just both mentioned that when people signed up to be beta testers, many of the people chomping at the bit were already video creators.Justin mentions that much like coloring, you start with three colors and learn how to keep people engaged. Then start adding more colors. With podcasting it may make more sense to start with audio, and then add video.We are in a Wait and See PeriodWe don't actually know if this is going to take off. While we don't expect Apple to topple YouTube, we are interested to see just how many people jump on board. Both companies mentioned the benefits of being an early adopter.Pricing for HLS HostingTransistor offers HLS video on any package of of $49 and higher.Buzzsprout offers 6 hours a month for $30 ($25 if you purchase yearl

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May 4, 2026Episode 1034
Podcasting in Six Weeks: My $1 Class to Get Your Going

Today we are talking about your show that just won't grow. It's time for a podcast experiment. I often say "You podcast is a recipe - not a statue." Well here is the good news. You know how to build a podcast to the current level you are at. The bad news is you've been here for a bit and it's time to try something to break you out of your plateau.You Either Win Or You LearnWhen you try something new with your podcast we often feel like everyone will leave immediately, and that just doesn't happen. Have you ever gone to a concert of a band you grew up listening to? They say "Here is one from our new album!" and half the theater goes for a beer, but most of them stay because they like the band.What If My Numbers Goes Down?So if you previously had 200 downloads an episode, and now you have 180 you learned something not to do. You've know how to grow a show to 200, so do that and try again.Start With a SurveySpeaking of mistakes, I once did a survey that I talked about bear the end of my show. One of the questions was, "Do you think the show is too long?" Well, if you think about it (being near the end of the show) anyone who thought it was too long had already left.Announce the survey, and really push it and explain how the audience will benefit. It could be as simple as:Did you listen to the end of the episode?If not where did you stop and why?How likely are you to share it with a friend on a scale form 1-10?You can use the built in survey with Podpage, or something like Tally forms.Smart Experiments: One Step at a TimeWhen you test new parts of your show, change ONE thing only. If you change three things and one of them works, you won't know which one.I would start with your episode titles, your opening two minutes (have a good hook), and get to the content ASAP.My Current Experiment: Podcasting in Six WeeksI tried this class about six months ago, and only told my email list. That was a dumb idea, but I learned to use ALL of my outlets when promoting a product or service.The course starting June 3rd will be once a week covering the following topics:Week 1: Concept & Planning Define your unique angle and target audience Choose your format and episode structure Create your content calendar for the first 10 episodes Develop your show name and descriptionWeek 2: Equipment & Setup Essential equipment recommendations for every budget. Recording space optimization (even in noisy environments). Software setup and configuration Audio quality testing and troubleshootingWeek 3: Recording Techniques Professional recording techniques. Interview skills and guest management. Solo episode strategies. Ove

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Apr 27, 2026Episode 1033
How do you feel about the future of podcasting in 2026?

In this episode, we answer a question I know has been on the minds of so many podcasters: Where is podcasting headed?What We CoveredSpotify, YouTube, and AI Slop: I kicked things off sharing my concerns about immoral creators, content exclusivity, and how blurry the definition of a “podcast” is getting.Optimism vs. Pessimism: We heard from multiple voices on whether the future looks bright or grim, and what keeps each of us going.Video, Discoverability, and Content Overload: How YouTube’s dominance and the rise of video (and AI-generated "slop") is shifting the landscape, sometimes making things more confusing than ever.Monetization Woes and the Hopes for Crowdfunding: Many noted frustration with ads and the current monetization system, with hope for easier, more integrated crowdfunding in the future.Government Regulation and Freedom of Speech: A Canadian listener shared real concerns about government overreach and its chilling effect on creators.Defining Your “Why” and Staying True to Your Mission: Several contributors reminded us to focus on passion, purpose, and connecting with our audience.Staying Resilient: Through all the changes—algorithm shakeups, new platforms, and shifting formats—what matters most is keeping your audience at the heart of what you do.ParticipantsSteve Stewart (Podcast Editors Mastermind, Podcast Editor's Academy, Steve's Site)Kim Newlove (The Pharmacist’s Voice Podcast, Perrysburg Podcast )Todd the Gator ( Guardian Down Roundtable, 50 Years Experience Required, Lessons in the RearviewLeslie Marting (Greatland Media)Ralph Estep Jr. ( AskRalph.com )Podcasting Morning ShowYork <a href="https://welcometoearthstories.

43 min
Apr 20, 2026Episode 1032
Lavalier Shootout - Weighing the Lift of Apple HLS

In this episode, I take you behind the scenes of a good old fashioned microphone shootout—this time, it’s all about wireless lavalier mics! I (quickly) run through a lineup of wireless lavalier microphones including the DJI Mic Mini, Hollyland Lark M2, Rode Wireless Micro, Rode Wireless Go, and Shure Move Mic. Not only do I compare how they sound right out of the box, but I also show how a little post production can level the playing field between even budget and premium options. If you’ve ever wondered whether it matters which one you pick, you’ll definitely want to listen.This content may contain affiliate links, meaning I earn a small commission if you purchase through these links at no additional cost to you. I only recommend products or services I trust and believe will provide value to you. Thank you for your support!The Weight Of Adding Video - The First Look at Apple HLSThe second big theme of today’s show is the pressure, and potential pitfalls, of adding video to your podcasting workflow. I break down what’s happening with Apple HLS video, what hosts like Captivate are charging, and why you need to seriously consider the “weight” video adds before taking the plunge.Getting Your Edited Audio To People In Apple - You Can't (If you add video)Can you maintain your audio quality? Should you be editing audio and video together, or keeping them separate? I also share some spot-on advice from Elsie Escobar about only adding video if it makes sense for your goals—not because you feel FOMO or outside pressure.Whether you’re mic shopping, contemplating a shift to video, or just want a sanity check on your podcasting process, this episode is for you. Enjoy!Gear Mentioned In This EpisodeDJI Mic MiniShure MovemicHollyland Lark M2Rode Wireless Go 3Rode Wireless MicroDJI Mic 2Captivate Media HostingOther ItemsEcamm Video SoftwareStreamdeck<a href="https://www.accentize.com/product/deroom/?v=0b3b97f

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Apr 13, 2026Episode 1031
How to Turn Your Podcast Into Passive Income (With Tools I Actually Use)

Welcome to this episode of the School of Podcasting! I’m Dave Jackson, and today I’m pulling back the curtain on the precise tools and strategies I personally use for affiliate marketing on my podcast. Whether you’re brand new to monetizing, or just looking to add another income stream, you’ll find this episode packed with actionable advice and real-world numbers.What I Cover in This EpisodeHow affiliate marketing works and why you don’t need a massive audience to benefitReal comparisons between ad revenue and affiliate commissions—including how I made $51 per 1,000 downloads promoting ChronometerWhy finding the right product for your specific audience trumps audience size every timeHow I save time, track, and update my affiliate links with tools like Switchy, Genius Link, and TextExpanderThe nightmare that is Amazon’s terms of service (and how to avoid getting banned)A quick walkthrough of getting approved for affiliate programs, even with a smaller showHow to place and talk about affiliate links for maximum returnTools, Companies includes a

46 min
Apr 6, 2026Episode 1030
From Listeners to Advocates: The Magic of True Fans

Have you ever wondered if the reason your podcast hasn’t “exploded” is actually the very thing that could help it last—and make it more rewarding? This week, I look into why having a smaller, passionate, and loyal audience often leads to more meaningful wins (personally and professionally) than simply racking up big download numbers.If you want to learn how to create enduring engagement, avoid common pitfalls, and connect with listeners in a way that actually matters, this episode is for you.Here’s what I cover in this week’s “Podcast Stew” styled episode (which includes chapters).1000 True FansWhy a “thousand true fans” might just be your biggest business advantage (and how focusing on your core audience beats chasing the casual crowd).Lessons from YouTube experts (Rocks Codes, Stephen Bartlett, Mr. Beast, Marques Brownlee) on where to put your energy if you want to succeed, and the role thumbnails, titles, and discovery play in growthMy thoughts on competing with “the big guys” - what you should (and shouldn’t) compare against, and why joy mattersIndependent vs. networked podcasting: Candid stories from the Young and Profiting team, the Midas Touch podcast, and why control is crucialThe truth about monetization—when is the right time (and why “3% conversion” is the real number to expect)Behind the curtain of podcast business stats: Lessons from Goal Hanger, ad revenue, and membershipsPlatform realities: Spotify’s “walled garden,” why I recommend “anybody but Spotify” for hosting, and insights from James Cridland at PodnewsThe importance of fun and fulfillment: advice from LeBron James and Charlie Puth on why loving the work is the true engine for longevityHow to effectively use calls-to-action: Taking lessons from an Audible ad in “Project Hail Mary” and why going “deeper” with your fans mattersLinks mentioned this week:School of PodcastingPodpagePodnews Report CardHow to Pitch a Podcast Show (Coming Soon!).Creators Hub in SpotifyApple Podcasts HubWhether you’re launching, growing, or just rethinking your show’s direction, this episode is packed with honest stories and a

43 min
Mar 30, 2026Episode 1026
Stop Pushing Listeners Away: The Biggest Podcasting Pet Peeves (and How to Fix Them)

If listeners are quitting your podcast in the first five minutes, this episode is for you. In this annual ‘podcast pet peeves’ roundup, I asked my audience what makes them bail on a show— and they did not hold back. ParticipantsYou’ll hear from Kim Newlove (The Pharmacist’s Voice, Perrysburg Podcast), Steve Stewart (podcast editor extraordinaire), Todd ‘the Gator’ (Guardian Down Roundtable, Lessons in the Rear View), and York (Welcome to Earth Stories) as they unpack the habits that drive them nuts: from bad audio and buried leads to ad overload, lazy interview questions, sloppy terminology, and more. You’ll walk away knowing exactly what turns listeners off - and how to fix it. I’ll also share my own take on ads, monetization, and why a little creativity can still set your show apart in 2026The Most Popular Pet PeevesToo many/poorly placed ads (especially mid-roll and early heavy ad blocks)Not getting to the point / burying the lead / unclear episode directionLack of preparation (hosts winging it, talking in circles, not prepping guests)Sloppy language and terminology (“podcast” vs “episode,” “podcasting” vs “podcasts,” RSS vs not)Wasting listener time with meta-chatter, overlong intros, and “Tell me about yourself” questionsI do this question every year, and as you might imagine, this list doesn't change much. This year seems like advertisements were the top peeve.Is Everyone Going to use the "YouTube Annoying Your Audience to Death" strategy, and use tools like Supercast and Patreon, and offer an ad-free version?Mentioned In This EpisodeSchool of PodcastingPodpage - Podcast WebsitesThe Pharmacist's VoiceThe Perrysburg PodcastSteve Stewart<a href="https://www.podcasteditoracademy.com/?aff=podcastcoach" rel="noopener noreferr

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Mar 23, 2026Episode 1029
School of Podcasting's Big News with Podpage

The School of Podcasting has been acquired, and yes, that means changes are coming. But don’t panic! The essence of what we do is staying intact. We’re diving into the nitty-gritty of what this acquisition means for our loyal members and anyone thinking about joining.New Free TierWe’re adding a free tier, more courses, and even a way for you to connect with podcasting experts. This is all about making the podcasting journey smoother and more accessible for everyone.Brenden and I have a vision for the future, and it’s about empowering you to take your podcasting game to the next level. If you’ve ever wanted to launch a podcast, or if you’re already knee-deep in it and looking for ways to monetize, we’ve got you covered. We’re building a community where you can learn, grow, and thrive, and I’m more excited than ever to be a part of your podcasting journey.So, let’s get to work and see what we can do together!My Favorite CRMI'm not making this up. My favorite CRM is call "Less Annoying CRM. Its s a simple, no-frills customer relationship management tool built specifically for small businesses, solopreneurs, and anyone who feels overwhelmed by complex CRMs. It focuses on the essentials: tracking contacts, managing leads, organizing tasks, and keeping a clear sales pipeline (although I don't use the pipleline tool)Takeaways:This week, we celebrated the acquisition of the School of Podcasting by PodPage, which is a huge deal.I went from living in my brother's basement after a divorce to running a successful podcasting business, talk about an upgrade.Relationships are key in podcasting; it's wild how many people you meet that can help you out.We’re excited to expand the School of Podcasting, bringing more courses and experts for everyone to learn from.This merger means more time and resources to create better content for our community, so stay tuned!Don't worry, if you’re already a member, nothing changes except for more value coming your way!Links referenced in this episode:schoolofpodcasting.compodpage.compodnews.netLess Annoying CRMLast week's episode on Podcasting SEO<a href="https://www.

55 min
Mar 15, 2026Episode 1028
How to Grow Your Podcast Audience with SEO and Keywords

When it comes to podcast strategies to grow your podcast, one strategy that often gets overlooked (because it takes time) is Search Engine Optimization (SEO). Now people are starting to market a "New" thing known as PSO (Podcast Search Optimization).Podcast Search Optimization VS Search Engine OptimizationSo what is the difference? In reality not much. Tools like Podseo and PSO and Ausha show you information on how often keywords are being search in Apple and Spotify (and others). SEO tools show what people are searching for in Google and other places (YouTube, TikTok, and more).So THE question is, do people search differently in a Podcast App vs how they search Google? For me, I don't think so. I might just type a keyword "Podcasting Best Practices" where in Google I would type "Podcasting Best Practices Podcast."Keyword Research Boils Dow To ThisFind a keyword that has a fair number of people searching for (somewhere between 20-100 searches), and see how much competition it has. Instead of trying to score for a really popular keyword, score multiple times with less popular (but still be sought after) key words with less competition. Mom said "Don't go play in traffic," but that's what you need to do - but no on the free way.What is Your Domain Authority?SEMRush (a great suite of tools) has a domain authority checker.Tools To Boost Your Podcast SEO on the WebFree Keyword Tool (That Sucks IMHO)https://www.wordstream.com/keywordsGoogle Keyword Tool (Inside of Adsense Account)https://ads.google.comGo to Tools > Planning > Keyword Planner (Free and unlimited use)Keywords Everywhere Extension for Chrome and Firefox $7/month. Helps you measure traffic and competition for keywords.https://keywordseverywhere.com/Also Asked (see what people are asking)1 Free search a Day or $12/monthhttps://alsoasked.com/Answer Socrates 3 searches a day$15/month gets you 100 searches a monthhttps://answersocrates.comUbsersuggestShows key word competition and more. It's a suite of tools to help find keywords, and write articles.$29/month.$290 Lifetime (credits thanks to AI)<a href="https://ubersuggest.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_bl

52 min
Mar 9, 2026Episode 1027
Big Lash Energy: One Million Downloads Fueled by Coffee and Compliments

Welcome to the world of Big Lash Energy, where Jayna Marie takes us on a no-holds-barred journey through the ups and downs of her life and career. As a makeup artist, Jayna decided that her life was too colorful not to share, and she jumped headfirst into podcasting.It's like she hit the ground running, with tons of awards, 200 episodes, and one million downloads you might say she's unstoppable.Do You Need a Video Podcast?The conversation kicks off with Jayna reflecting on the pressure to include video in her podcasting journey, but she confidently asserts that real connection comes from authentic storytelling, not flashy visuals. It’s refreshing to hear someone challenge the norm and embrace the art of audio storytelling.As the episode unfolds, Jayna shares her experiences with vulnerability, especially in her first episode, where she bared her soul and laid it all on the line. She describes it as feeling like she jumped off a cliff, and honestly, who hasn’t felt that way about sharing their truth? This episode dives into the nitty-gritty of her life, tackling topics that range from relationships to personal growth, all while maintaining a sense of humor that makes you feel like you're chatting with a friend over coffee.Always Be EntertainingJayna emphasizes the importance of being relatable and not shying away from difficult topics, making for a conversation that is both entertaining and enlightening. What really makes Jayna stand out is her approach to audience engagement.She’s built a loyal following by sharing snippets of her life and encouraging conversations around her podcast episodes. Jayna is all about creating that connection with her listeners, which is a breath of fresh air in a sea of cookie-cutter AI content. And let’s not forget her unique marketing tactics; she even uses dating apps to promote her podcast, turning the world of swiping into a strategic move for gaining listeners. It’s hilarious and clever, showing us that sometimes, the best marketing is just being yourself.The Power of Being AuthenticThis episode isn’t just about podcasting; it’s about authenticity, vulnerability, and the power of storytelling. If you’re looking for inspiration in your own podcasting journey, or just want a good laugh, tune in to hear Jayna Marie's incredible story and the lessons she’s learned along the way.So whether you're a seasoned podcaster or just curious about what it takes to create a meaningful show, Jayna's insights are golden. She proves that podcasting is more than just a hobby; it’s a way to connect, share, and inspire others through your unique voice. Join us as we delve into the world of Big Lash Energy and discover what makes Jayna Marie a standout in the podcasting community. It's a wild ride, and you won't want to miss it.Mentioned In This EpisodeBig La

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Mar 2, 2026Episode 1025
Podcast Short Cuts and Sacrifices: What Worked?

In this episode, I tackled the question submitted by Emily Kate: What sacrifices and shortcuts did you take in your podcasting journey, and did they work out well? A fantastic lineup of podcasters shared their wisdom, experiences, and favorite tools. Here’s an organized list of all the contributors with their URLs, plus every resource/tool we mentioned to help you on your own podcasting path.Contributors & Their URLsEmily Kate :emilykatecreative.comKim Newlove ("The Pharmacist’s Voice" & "Perrysburg Podcast")thepharmacistsvoice.comperrysburgpodcast.comRalph ("Ask Ralph Media Network")askralph.comIncludes shows: Financially Confident Christian, Grit and Growth Business, Truth Unveiled with Ralph, Content Creators AccountantTodd the Gator ("Guardian Down Roundtable")guardiandowncast.comKrista Lawley & Mark ("Practical Prepping Podcast")practicalprepping.infoResources & URLs MentionedOtter.ai – Transcription toolBitly – Link shortener/tracker/QR Code CreatorSwitchy – Link shortener/tracker/QR code creator (one time payment)Steve Stewart’s Podcast <a href="https://stevestewart.me/find-a-podcast-editor/" rel="noopen

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Feb 23, 2026Episode 1024
The Pros and Cons of Going Video: Let’s Talk

Hey, it's Dave Jackson! In this episode, Ishare my talk that I did at the National Religious Broadcasters (NRB) about video podcasting. What are the real benefits, the costs, and the drawbacks? I also tackled the recent Apple announcement about HLS video, shared my NRB event experience, and got into some real stats and stories about YouTube and podcasting.This episode uses chapters to enable you to jump to the most important parts for you.Key Topics Covered:The difference between a podcast and a YouTube showStats on how many podcasters are actually doing "real" videoYouTube's change to how Shorts views are countedPros and cons of YouTube for discovery and monetizationCost breakdowns of starting both audio and video podcastsCompletion percentages for audio vs video showsAlgorithm reality and how audience recommendations workMajor drawbacks of relying on video platforms for incomeThe new Apple HLS video announcement: what it means, who it's for, and whether you should careReal examples of creators' experiences on YouTubeMy Takeaways:You don't have to do video if you don't want to. Video can help with discovery, but the audio side offers significantly more opportunity—sometimes a 15x larger audience! Also, while YouTube provides community and powerful analytics, the algorithm and monetization risks are real. The new Apple HLS video support is mostly about helping advertisers, not creators, and comes with new costs.Resources & Links Mentioned:School of Podcasting: schoolofpodcasting.comPodcast Host Survey (Dr. Colin Gray): thepodcasthost.com<a href="https://www.thepodcasthost.com/business-of-podcasting/video-podcasts-youtube/" rel="noopener noreferrer" targe

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Feb 16, 2026Episode 1023
Cut the Fluff, Keep the Gold: How to Edit for Your Audience

In this episode, I’m walking you through why great podcast editing doesn’t start with software, plugins, or secret shortcuts — it starts with knowing your audience. Once you’re crystal clear on who you’re talking to and what they value, editing becomes a lot easier: you simply remove anything that wastes their time or doesn’t deliver value.Editing For ContentI’ll share examples from real interviews (including Amy Poehler’s “Good Hang” and conversations with my friends Daniel J. Lewis and Katie Krimitsos) to show how to tighten up questions, trim rambling answers, and keep the pace moving so your listeners stay engaged from start to finish.If you’ve ever listened back to your show and thought, “It’s fine…but something feels off,” this one’s for you.---Where To start?Editing starts with your audience, not your software Why the first question is, “Who am I talking to and what do they want?” How knowing your audience’s problems, language, and attention span guides every cut. The “vegetarian at dinner” analogy: if you know who’s coming, you know what not to serve.Did they actually answer the question?Using Amy Poehler’s friend and Jennifer Lawrence as an example of a non-answer answer.How to spot when guests talk *around* a question instead of answering it.When to follow up, when to re-ask more simply, and when to just fix it in the edit.Cut the fluff, keep the valueTrimming long-winded questions where the host gives too much backstory.Shortening guest answers that wander, repeat, or add no value to the listener.Why you don’t need to include your guest “thinking out loud” to get to the point.Friends, comfort, and wasted timeHow being comfortable with guests (friends, colleagues) can lead to bloated conversations.Why “fun to say” isn’t the same as “valuable to hear” for your audience.The discipline of deleting entire questions and answers that just don’t l

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Feb 9, 2026Episode 1022
Ingredients that Make People Binge Your Podcast

Alright, so if you’re a podcaster looking to snag more listeners and get them hooked on your back catalog, then buckle up, because we’re diving into binge triggers straight outta the Netflix playbook. We’re breaking down three juicy strategies that can keep your audience glued to their headphones, even after they’ve finished your latest episode. Plus, we’ve got a heartwarming “because of my podcast” story from Ray Arnott that’ll make you believe in the magic of podcasting. So, if you're tired of people tuning in and then bouncing faster than a bad date, stick around. We’re gonna make your podcast the one they're bingeing on next!1. Open Loops (Brain Gaps)What It Is:An open loop is an unresolved element in your content—a question, mystery, or ongoing storyline that the listener subconsciously wants resolved. This is a storytelling technique borrowed from TV and movies: cliffhangers, subplots, or even hints about future developments that drive people to keep watching (or listening) to find out what happens next.Examples from the Episode:uses TV examples like Will Trent and Tracker:"There's a problem at the beginning of the episode… and 50 minutes later, give or take, the problem is solved. … On occasion they'll do a two-parter with a cliffhanger." (01:39)In Will Trent, the ongoing subplot about the main character being disliked and saving a dog (an adaptation of the “save the cat” storytelling trope) gets the audience rooting for him, creating emotional investment through an open loop about his relationships and backstory."You have this underlying story that's going through the whole thing, and I believe that's why we are binging content." (13:11)In podcasts, an open loop could be as simple as starting a story in one episode and promising to finish it later, or introducing a mystery or a question (“Did James ever fix his solar panels?”) that’s answered in a later episode.How To Use:Tease questions (“Next week, I’ll reveal the results…”)Continue a personal story arc across episodesDangle small mysteries (“I opened the door and only saw one of the three things I was looking for…”) (Share journey

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Feb 2, 2026Episode 1021
The Four D's of Podcasting: Novel Marketing Conference Recap

I just got back from the Novel Marketing Conference. This was put on by my friend Thomas Umstattd Jr (who has a great podcast for authors). I love single track events, and this one was AMAZING. It was all about book marketing (which applies to podcasting). Only the original Podfest comes close (but that didn't feed me Schlotzky's deli Sandwiches).I need to give credit, the "Four D's" come from Chase Replogle who does a few podcasts including the Pastor Writer, Let's Talk Bible: Kids, and he's the Pastor at Bent Oak Church. His opening keynote was AMAZING. I have adopted it for podcasters.Main Points:Single Track Conferences: I explained why single-track conferences are my favorite—you don’t miss out on sessions, and the Novel Marketing Conference was one of the best I’ve attended.Opening Keynote – The Four Ds: Chase Replogle’s talk resonated with the “Four Ds”: decisiveness, discipline, discernment, and devotion—applies to both writing and podcasting. My favorite: nobody listens to what you record, they listen to what you edit (editing is magic!).Marketing Parallels: Even though this was a book conference, book marketing is a close cousin to podcast marketing. The basic principles really do translate.Serving Your Audience: I reflected on the courage to create, facing the fear of “what if nobody listens?”, and focusing on service and devotion to your listeners.Is Your Podcast a Painkiller or a Vitamin?: Thanks to Thomas Umstattd Jr.’s talk—a “painkiller” solves a direct need, while a “vitamin” is nice to have but not urgent. Think about what pain your show removes for your audience.Podcast Competition: I highlighted that we’re not just competing with o

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Jan 26, 2026Episode 1020
Behind the Scenes at Podfest: Lessons, Laughs, and Cold Coffee

Hey, it’s Dave Jackson from the School of Podcasting, and in this episode, I’m recapping my experience at Podfest 2026, which was a whirlwind of hallway chats, memorable dinners, and some eye-opening lessons. Here’s what I cover:Hallway Conversations organizers are just trying to cover astronomical hotel fees.Networking Magic: The biggest benefit of these events is always the networking. I had a blast connecting with old friends, like Daniel J. Lewis, Rob Walsh, Rob Greenlee, and James Cridlin, and got to enjoy some great stories and camaraderie.Podcasting Hall of Fame: The Hall of Fame event was a highlight. Seeing so many people who’ve truly served the podcasting community—sharing knowledge, fighting legal battles, innovating—reminded me that serving your audience is the common denominator among podcasting greats.A Word on Programmatic Ads: I discuss my article comparing podcast CPM/programmatic ads to the historic crash of banner ad prices on websites. My worry: as more low-quality, AI-generated shows flood the market and accept pennies, ad rates may sink across the board."How to Pitch a Podcast" Show Update: I’m experimenting with a new show concept where we share the worst—and best—podcast pitch

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Jan 19, 2026Episode 1019
Behind the Scenes of My New Podcast

On today’s episode, I dig into my thought process as I consider launching a new podcast—and I walk through the essential questions I ask anyone who’s thinking about starting one. If you’ve already got a podcast, these questions might help you rethink your approach.Why am I starting this podcast? I share my background as a teacher and my desire to fight back against spammy guest pitches. I want to educate PR agencies and help fellow podcasters feel less alone in the sea of spam.Who is this podcast for?This show is for two groups: PR agencies (so they can do their job better) and podcasters (so they know they’re not alone and can improve how they handle pitches).How will I measure success? Instead of downloads, I’ll measure success by how many people utilize resources I share, like PodMatch and PodcastGuests.com. I’ll also keep tabs on affiliate signups.What are the hurdles?I reflect on a previous project, Dates from Hell, which struggled because it required audience participation but didn’t yet have an audience. For this new podcast, I’ll need a steady supply of good (and bad) pitches from listeners.Is this a passion project, hobby, or business?This is mostly a passion project and a hobby, driven by my desire to make a difference and maybe have some fun. If I can monetize it, that’s a nice bonus.Why will my audience listen?Listeners will tune in to hear entertainingly bad pitches, learn how to make their own pitches better, and find solidarity in their struggles with guest booking spam. Plus, I’ll offer educational insights that no one else seems to be sharing right now.How long will it take to make an episode?I estimate each episode will take around half an hour to produce, keeping things doable alongside my other commitments. You measure your production time and then choose your schedule.Do I have time and resources to make this happen? I’ve already got hosting, gear, and a plan for the website (PitchAPodcast.com). The biggest challenge will be getting enough listener participation to keep the show going.Key Takeaway I’m considering a crowd-generated podcast to tackle the problem of bad guest pitches.If you’d like to participate, send me your stories of bad (or good!) pitches, info about your podcast and website, and details on your ideal guest.<l

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Jan 12, 2026Episode 1018
The Myth of Overnight Success: What Podcasting Really Takes

Hey, it’s Dave Jackson here! In this episode, I’m diving letting you see why patience and persistence matter more than anything else in podcasting (and, honestly, in most creative pursuits). We’ve all been spoiled by the microwave mentality (wanting quick results and instant gratification) but the real success stories are built over years, not weeks.I kick things off with the story of the microwave’s invention as a metaphor for how society craves instant results, then flip the script to talk about why that approach just doesn’t work in podcasting.What Does it Take to Be Known?You’ll hear me break down the journeys of big names like Morgan Freeman, Samuel L. Jackson, Harrison Ford, Bryan Cranston, Lucille Ball, and even musicians like Bonnie Raitt and Andrea Bocelli—all of whom pushed through years (sometimes decades) before their “big break.” Yes, even Adam Sandler and Jerry Seinfeld had plenty of failures, awkward moments, and years of grinding before the world knew their names. I share how their experiences relate directly to podcasting, and why embracing your own style and sticking with what you love can make all the difference.You Need To Be More Than "Good"I also talk about the importance of consistency, cross-promotion, knowing your audience, and making your content “remarkable”—the kind people just have to talk about. I share how Seinfeld didn’t become a household name overnight, and how even my own podcast journey has been about slow, steady growth, not big, sudden leaps.Plus, I get into listener engagement strategies, word-of-mouth tactics, and why you should appreciate the connections and opportunities podcasting brings, from new friendships to dream gigs. And yes, you’ll hear a little power rant about the NFL’s approach to consistency (or lack thereof)!Because of My Podcast Lou MongelloFinally, I wrap up with plenty of listener “because of my podcast” stories, examples of how podcasting opens doors you never imagined, and a reminder that there’s nothing stopping you from growing your show except your own willingness to put in the time and effort.If you want to get inspired and set the right expectations for your own podcast journey—or just need a reminder that you’re not alone in the slow grind—this episode is for you. Thanks for tuning in!Mentioned In This EpisodeLou Mongello and his WDW RadioLou Mongello on SOP 713Because of My Podcast Post on RedditBecause of my podcast showMentioned

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Jan 5, 2026Episode 1017
How to Start a Podcast in 2026

If you want a podcast launch checklist I have one available here. This show is intended for beginners to podcasting. If you already have one, this may be one to skip (or you will hear things you should've thought about but didn't).Here are the steps I covered.Pick Your TopicDecide if you're podcasting solo or with cohost(s).Pick how you will podcast.Pick where will you podcast?Choose how you will measure your successPick a name. Naming tools from Podpage and Buzzsprout.Buy the HardwareBuy/Find SoftwarePurchase web hostingDomain Name ( Ilke Namecheap)GraphicsIntro Music. (optional)Media Hosting (for your mp3 files)Record Your ContentEdit Your ContentUpload your mediaWrite Your Show NotesClick PublishMake Sure your Feed is Val

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Jan 1, 2026
Launch and Grow Your Podcast with the School of Podcasting

Hey, I’m Dave Jackson, host of The School of Podcasting.If you want to start a podcast or make the one you already have better, this show is for you. Every week, I share tips, insights, and proven strategies to help you podcast with more confidence and less confusion. I've made it easy to follow the show, just go to www.schoolofpodcasting.com/follow to follow the show and never miss an episode.

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Dec 29, 2025Episode 1016
What's Your Favorite Podcast (AND WHY) 2025 Edition

What makes a podcast someone's favorite? I ask this every year, and here are the shows that were mentioned:Here is a list of the "Favorite" shows, as well as those who submitted them. Thanks so all who were involved.1. Nudge2. No Agenda 3.Treat Addiction Podcast 4. Daily Devotions for Busy Lives5. Harry Shearer’s Show "Le Show"6. School of Podcasting 7. Time Suck8. Too Many Tabs9. What Was That Like?10. Daily Sports History11. Walking is Fitness12. Welcome to Earth Stories13. The Pharmacist’s Voice Podcast14. The Perrysburg Podcast15. Content Creators Accountant16. Back Look Cinema17. POD News Weekly Review18. Grow The Show19. Podcast41120. Your Podcast ConsultantCommon Thread of Great ContentThe commo

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Dec 22, 2025Episode 1015
Who is Peeing in the Podcast Pool?

Hey, it's Dave! In this episode (which uses chapters FYI), I take you through a year-end wrap-up, sharing stories, rants, insights, and predictions about the world of podcasting. Here are the main points I covered:1. A Christmas Story with a Lesson for PodcastersI kicked things off with a humorous Christmas tale about the Cridland Boys Choir, and what happens when you keep loosening your standards just to hit a target—a not-so-subtle lesson for the podcasting world.2. Pushing Back on Changing Definitions in PodcastingI strongly disagreed with Steve Goldstein and Jay Nachlis' take that YouTube should be considered podcasts. (also TikTok, and Newsletters).I emphasized that a podcast, by definition, is audio, video, or PDF delivered via RSS—without that, it's not a podcast.3. Why "Everything Is a Podcast" is DangerousI called out the industry for letting YouTube (and now TikTok) hijack the term "podcast," muddling data and damaging clarity around the medium.4. The Hazards of Exclusive Distribution DealsI discussed how exclusive distribution (like those seen with Netflix and Spotify) leads to loss of control and audiences for podcasters.5. Warning Signs of Big Companies Manipulating PodcastingShared concerns about major corporations and what happens when their decisions are driven mainly by shareholder profits and not creators or audiences.6. AI Content Flooding the Podcast SpaceI highlighted the dangers of companies like Inception Point AI mass-producing low-value podcasts, cluttering directories, harming discoverability, and devaluing advertising rates.7.Common Missteps Hurting Podcast DiscoveryI warned about creating duplicate listings in Apple Podcasts and elsewhere, usually when moving hosts, and the importance of understanding how to migrate your show correctly.8. Show Name CollisionsI noted the confusion caused by multiple shows using the same title (like "Thinking Outside the Box") and urged creators to do their research before naming their show.9. Monetization Predictions for the Coming YearI predicted a shift toward premium/patron-supported models as podcasters get frustrated with low ad rates.10. The Fight Against "AI Slop"I advocated for collectively pushing back against low-quality, AI-generated spam content in our medium.11. Upcoming Industry MergersI think we'll see podcast-related companies merging or being acquired in the near future.12. The Reality of YouTube for PodcastersI expect many podcasters to try YouTube, realize it's not for them, and return to audio-first approaches—while some will succeed by mastering the video platform.<st

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Dec 15, 2025Episode 1014
Podcasting Build Relationships Which Leads to Opportunities

Hey, it's Dave Jackson, and I'm thrilled to bring you episode 1014 of the School of Podcasting. You’ve heard me say it before: "Podcasts lead to relationships, and those relationships lead to opportunities." Today, I brought proof! I sat down with Kim Newlove and Jan Almasey, who shared amazing stories about how starting a podcast opened doors they never anticipated.Kim Newlove’s Story:Kim hosts The Pharmacist Voice, where she shares insights on using your voice in the medical field, as well as the Perrysburg Podcast in Ohio. It’s been incredible watching Kim become a mini local celebrity—people in her town now recognize her as "the podcast woman." Whether it’s meeting city council members or audience listeners who discovered the area through her podcast, Kim sees firsthand how her show for Perrysburg builds authentic relationships. She even reached out to her local library to run seminars on "how to listen to podcasts," growing her audience one person at a time. You can check out Kim’s work at the Pharmacist Voice.Jan Almasey’s Journey:Jan started the Apex Podcast after seeing how storytelling could bring hope to his local community in Stark County, Ohio. Over three years, the show picked up momentum, leading to speaking engagements at high schools, partnerships with the local chamber of commerce, and even a sponsorship from the city that helped him set up a podcast studio in downtown Canton. Jan’s strategy? Build real relationships—sending thank-you cards or making personal follow-up calls to guests fueled organic growth. Later, those relationships directly translated to business opportunities like agency work, consulting gigs, and even a grant through Jumpstart Inc. to support the local economy. Jan’s story proves that podcasting is about more than downloads—it’s about building a network that keeps on growing. Learn more at https://www.linkedin.com/in/jan-almasy/My Takeaway:Reflecting on their experiences—and my own—I can't stress enough how starting a podcast can transform your network. Whether you’re meeting listeners at local events, helping someone discover how to use a podcast app, or forming business partnerships outside your traditional circles, these relationships turn into possibilities you never would’ve imagined. Your podcast can be the starting point for new jobs, collaborations, consulting work, or simply making a bigger impact

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Dec 8, 2025Episode 1013
How to Handle Listener Feedback (Even the Awkward Bits)

Welcome to the show! In this episode, I’m pulling back the curtain and sharing the feedback you’ve given me over the past year. From the things you love—like honest opinions and those behind-the-scenes bloopers—to areas where you think I could improve, I’m breaking it all down.I’ll share how I process both praise and criticism, respond to some thought-provoking and even challenging listener comments, and talk openly about staying authentic on the microphone, no matter what.If you’ve ever wondered how to handle feedback for your own podcast—or you’re just curious about what really goes on behind the scenes—this episode is for you. Let’s jump in and talk about what it really means to grow through feedback!Main Points CoveredShared survey results about my audience (how you found the show, preferences on episode length, etc.)The value of opinions and why I’m not afraid to voice mine—people appreciate authenticity!Blooper reel gets love for keeping the show relatable and real.Several listeners said the show’s focus has improved—thanks for noticing!Some prefer solo episodes to interviews, and I talk about why I sometimes do interviews anyway.The “same old” show approach: people tune in for consistency, just like reruns of Hallmark movies.Trust is crucial; I work hard to give value and answers you can’t find elsewhere.You can tell when I’m tired or distracted! I agree—your energy transfers to listeners.Being award-winning isn’t about ego—my goal is always helping people.Repetition helps beginners, but seasoned podcasters would like more advanced content.Technical details: I use a Rode Podmic USB microphone into a Rodecaster Duo, recording in Hindenburg.Notes on ideas and feedback: people want more “behind-the-scenes” and technical information.<span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="

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Dec 1, 2025Episode 1012
12 Things I Wish I Knew Before Starting My Podcast

In this episode, I circle back to a classic question:What do you wish you’d known when you started your podcast that you know now?This is a question I’ve asked in the past (shout-out to episode 768 back in 2021!), and while I received close to 20 answers then, participation was a bit lighter this time around. But don’t worry—the quality makes up for the quantity!Featured Guests & Their InsightsI’m joined by two long-time contributors—Kim Newlove and Steve Stewart—who share powerfully honest responses about their podcasting journeys.Kim Newlove:Kim shares 12 things she wishes she’d known when starting her podcasts, The Pharmacist’s Voice and the Perrysburg Podcast. She talks about everything from being able to change your podcast’s “why” as its mission evolves, to discovering the right gear (hello, Shure SM7B!), figuring out realistic production schedules, mastering research and writing demands, making effective use of Canva for episode artwork, choosing media hosts wisely, the importance of newsletters, the value of trailers, and more. She emphasizes learning as you go and assures new podcasters that it’s totally okay to fill in gaps as you build your parachute on the way down!Steve Stewart:Steve reflects on how much he wishes he’d known how to edit for content when he first began his show in 2010. His early episodes would benefit from a bit more polish, and he shares how improving his editing skills made a huge difference not just for his own podcast, but eventually for others through his work at the Podcast Editors Academy. Steve also offers an excellent resource for anyone looking for a podcast editor.My Takeaways & Thoughts:I share my own lessons learned—including the importance of setting aside regular time for learning new skills, asking for direct feedback from listeners, and being willing to adapt and evolve your show as needed. I also discuss the value of constructive criticism and how it helps me grow as a podcaster.Resources & Mentions:Kim’s Podcasts: The Pharmacist’s Voice and Perrysburg Podcast Steve’s Podcast Editing Resource: <a href="https://stevestewart.me/fi

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Nov 24, 2025Episode 1011
12 Signs Your Podcast Is Actually Working

In this episode, I look into the many ways you can measure the success of your podcast beyond just download numbers. Too often, new podcasters get fixated on stats that might not actually reflect their true goals, whether that’s growing their business, building a community, or simply having fun. I share 12 alternative metrics—including email list growth, audience engagement, speaking opportunities, and more—so you can assess your progress and celebrate wins that go way beyond downloads. I also mention some valuable tools, companies, and podcasts to help you along the way. This episode (as all of my recent episodes) uses chapters.Apple and Spotify Completion RateWhen you go into the dashboards of Apple and Spotify, you can see how far people listened to your show. I'm an old teach so for me 70% is a C. 80% is a B, and anything above 90% is an A. The beauty of both these platforms is you can click and listen at any point that shows a drop of so you can see if it was something you said that cause the dropoff.Listeners: The number of unique devices that have played more than 0 seconds of an episode.Engaged Listeners: The number of unique devices that played at least 20 minutes or 40% of an episode within a single session. Pausing or stopping an episode does not count as starting a new session.Spotify shows People You reached (people who have seen your show), People who Showed Interest (they interacted with your show, which may be an indicator of episode titles o artwork), People who consumed (so they listened to your show).Unprovoked Audience FeedbackThis is my favorite. You put out an episode, and 24 ours later you've got emails in your inbox, DMs on social giving you feedback. For me, this is a great indication that your episode resonated with your audience.Email List GrowthIf the goal of your show is to monetize, this metric is KEY. I know for me, I focused on lead magnets and growing my list, and those efforts resulted in me growing my list by 39%Growth in CommunityYou can look at your community growth, this could be Facebook, Discord, Heartbeat (my favorite), Circle, etc. School of Podcasting member Mark Lawley who does the Practical Prepping show with his wife Krista. They have 155 thousands people in their community. I do not recommend using Facebook (or any free service) for your community. Paul G shared in his interview how he lost a five figure community. I've been kicked out of my own Facebook group, and moved to Heartbeat (which now has a great AI tool that makes setting up a community a breeze).Business MetricsIf the goal of your show is to grow your business, then looking at the number of customers, the revenue generated should be something to look at. I hear people all the time mentioned how they will measure the goals in downloads and later say they want to make some income. Then I

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Nov 17, 2025Episode 1010
Over Delivering Value: The Secret Sauce for Podcast Success

Hey, it's Dave Jackson from the School of Podcasting! In this episode, I dive into what truly delivers value to your podcast audience—drawing inspiration from an episode of the Novel Marketing podcast hosted by my buddy, Thomas Umstattd Jr..As I was driving to PodIndy, I caught myself sharing Thomas Umstattd Jr.'s episode with friends, and it hit me: why was this episode good enough for me to recommend? Today, I'm breaking down the answer to that question and sharing snippets of what I like to call "value bombs," even if that phrase is a bit cringey.Here's what I cover:Why knowing your audience inside and out is key to delivering value.How answering your audience's burning questions (like Thomas does) keeps them tuning in.The importance of overdelivering—smothering your audience in value so they want to share your show.Why direct recommendations from listeners are more powerful than any algorithm.Examples of how Thomas Umstattd Jr. teases upcoming content to keep listeners coming back.How sharing personal stories alongside expertise can connect with your audience.The role of hands-on “boots on the ground” experience versus just listing facts, and how this builds authority.Why saving your audience time or money equals big value.Teasing future episodes and weaving in stories to keep people engaged.The impact of authenticity and showing both sides of a topic.My own experiment comparing human podcasting value to AI research, and why the human touch still wins.A quick review/demonstration of the new Zoom PodTrack P4 Next and my honest thoughts on whether it’s worth upgrading from the original P4.Lessons from a membership site migration disaster—and the importance of always having a backup plan for your content.Websites Mentioned:AuthorMedia.com — Home of the Novel Marketing podcast.SchoolofPodcasting.com — My home base for podcasting education.Perplexity AI — An AI research tool I tested for podcasting advice.Sweetwater — For buying podcast and audio gear.Backblaze — Backup service I use for safeguarding files.<a href="https://supportthisshow.com/voomly" rel

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Nov 10, 2025Episode 1009
Small Audience, Big Results: Making Sponsor Deals Work for Any Podcaster

Hey everyone, it’s Dave Jackson from the School of Podcasting! In today’s episode, I sit down with Heidi Kay Begay from Red House Productions (website: redhouseproductions.net) to discuss how you don’t need a massive audience to start monetizing your podcast. She reveals practical and inspiring strategies to pitch your value and land meaningful brand relationships, even when your show is still growing.Key Points others want custom URLs to track results. Being organized and professional goes a long way.Dealing with Rejection: Both Heidi and I agree—a “no” today could be a “yes” later. Don’t burn bridges, rejection is often just “not now.”AI Music Tools: I shared my experience using Suno (suno.ai), an AI music creation platform, to generate podcast outro music. If you use paid tiers, you own the commercial rights (worth

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Nov 3, 2025Episode 1008
You Can Be an Influencer Without Being the Best: Lessons from Ace Frehley of Kiss

Hey, it’s Dave Jackson from School of Podcasting, and in this episode, I look into what podcasters can learn from Ace Frehley of Kiss—even though Ace wasn't the most technically brilliant guitarist, his unique approach made him a massive inspiration for millions. I share how Ace’s story relates to how we think about our own podcasting journey.Here are some of the takeaways we can learn from Ace:Be Yourself: Just like Ace was always Ace, when you’re podcasting, lean into what makes you unique. Your “superpower” may be simply being authentic and relatable.You Don’t Have to Be the Best: Ace wasn’t the most technically gifted, but millions saw themselves in him because his style was accessible and inspiring. You don’t have to be the smartest or most polished podcaster to make an impact.Find What Sets You Apart: Ace created the iconic smoking guitar—a visual nobody else had. What can you do to stand out in the podcasting space? (it's a hard question)Continuous Improvement: Ace’s smoking guitar started as a basic smoke bomb and was improved again and again. Tweak, pivot, and keep making your show better.Know Your Role and Play for the Team: Ace knew his part in Kiss and played what was right for the song, not just what made him look good. As a podcaster, sometimes the best thing is to let your guest or co-host shine.Connect with Your Audience: Ace was famous for taking time with fans, speaking their language, and connecting through his style. Make sure you’re speaking your listeners’ language and not talking “above” or “below” them.Protect Your Rights: When it comes to business decisions, maintain ownership of your content whenever possible—like Ace leasing his makeup design to Kiss rather than selling it outright.Have Fun and Know When to Walk Away: Ace left Kiss and walked away from millions because it wasn’t fun anymore. If your podcast isn’t bringing you joy, consider your options.Overcome Setbacks: Ace faced business, creative, and personal struggles but kept moving forward. Don’t let challenges stop your podcast journey.Be Innovative and Audience-Focused: Innovation drew attention to Ace, and keeping your audience in mind helps you deliver a show people remember.Mashed Potatoes and AIToday I use the analogy comparing AI-generated content to instant mashed potatoes out of a box. While it’s impressive how quickly and easily you can whip something up with AI—just like it’s convenient to make mashed potatoes from a box—the outcome usually isn’t that memorable. Most of the time, I find myself more amazed by the technology itself than by what it produces.Growing up, my mom tried to make instant mashed potatoes edible by mixing in milk and l

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Oct 27, 2025Episode 1007
Counting Episodes: Just How Many Do We Listen To?

We're diving into the oh-so-fun world of podcast listening habits today, folks. Some people think most listeners are "Full." So how many podcasts are we actually cramming into our ears each week? And let me tell you, the answers are as varied as the podcasts themselves. From folks who binge a couple of episodes while commuting to some who claim they listen to 30-plus shows, it’s a wild ride. So grab your headphones and settle in as we break down the absurdity of our listening obsessions and peek behind the curtain of our podcasting lives.Takeaways: Podcasting might feel saturated, but there's always room for new shows and ideas. Listeners subscribe to many shows, but they often only tune into a select few episodes weekly. The average podcast listener seems to juggle multiple shows, depending on their daily activities. Even seasoned podcasters have varied listening habits that shift over time and circumstances. Finding a good podcast is like finding a needle in a haystack, but hey, it's worth the search! People are still engaging with podcasts, despite claims of saturation in the market. Contributors:thepharmacistsvoice.comperrysburgpodcast.combacklookcinema.comaskralph.comschoolofpodcasting.comstevestewart.mepracticalprepping.infotheruckersedge.comwelcometoearthstories.comschoolofpodcasting.com/pocketcastspodcasteditorsacademy.comReady to Start a Podcast?Starting a new show? Need help growing the show you have? Join the School of Podcasting worry free with a 30-day money-back guarantee.<a href="https://community.schoolofpodcasting.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=shownotes

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Oct 20, 2025Episode 1006
Is Live Podcasting Worth it? The Pros and Cons of Live podcasting

I'm diving deep into the pros and cons of doing a live podcast, inspired by a question from Ralph over at askralph.com. If you’ve ever considered going live with your show—whether with video or audio—you’ll want to hear my honest take after years of experience.I break down what it’s really like to start live streaming, especially if you’re new to podcasting or just thinking about expanding into video. From gear recommendations, background setups, and green screens to my latest waste-of-money purchase (ouch!), I share what works, what doesn’t, and what you should really consider before investing.You’ll hear why consistency in scheduling is key and how I built a loyal live audience for Ask the Podcast Coach, which now feels like the new Saturday morning cartoons for my regulars. I talk candidly about realistic audience expectations—don’t be shocked when only a handful show up at first!—and why you shouldn’t start live if you're overwhelmed by tech.I run through my favorite live streaming platforms, like Restream, eCamm Live, EVMux, and Streamyard, and why I personally steer clear of Riverside despite its flashy features. I talk camera options, from affordable 4K webcams to fancy DSLRs, and stress why you should practice, practice, practice before going live in front of folks.You’ll also get my advice on handling live chat, co-host dynamics, the need for two monitors, and the occasional awkwardness of booting guests off gracefully. I share war stories about live mishaps, from surprise guests to technical gremlins, and why your audience is nearly always rooting for you.If you’re weighing whether the extra expense, learning curve, and time spent prepping for live shows is worth it, I’ll walk you through how it’s brought me closer to my audience and generated great content for my main show. Spoiler: For me, the connection, fun, and instant feedback have made it worthwhile—even if those first few live shows felt like talking to a brick wall!Takeaways: Going live can totally change your podcast game, but it comes with a whole load of tech headaches. There are so many tools out there for live streaming, but honestly, they all have their quirks and bugs. You really need to be consistent with your live show schedule, or folks will forget about you faster tha

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Oct 13, 2025Episode 1005
From Idea to Launch: How Long Does It Really Take to Start a Podcast?

Welcome back! In this episode, I tackle this month’s big question: "How long did it take you to bring your podcast from an idea in your head to execution—and how long to find your audience?"I share stories from guest contributors and reflect on my own process after launching nearly 40 different shows over the years. Todd the Gator kicks things off describing how his gaming show “Guardian Downcast” was born, with community members pulling him into hosting after another podcast called it quits. He recalls the whirlwind of learning what a podcast actually is, how to publish it, and how long it took their show to fully find its identity—hint: half their existence!Steve Stewart joins in, sharing that his first podcast took a full year to go from idea to launch. Facing the usual fears and uncertainty, Steve found accountability and guidance with a coach, which made all the difference. He also talks about the slow climb to finding an audience and how connecting with similar podcasts really helped boost those early numbers.Chris shares a personal journey that traces 20 years of tinkering before launching his current show “Cool Cars with Chris.” After plenty of experimenting and previous podcasts, he finally returned to his passion for cars and found a format that felt true to himself.I reflect on my own timelines, explaining that those first launches tend to take much longer thanks to the steep learning curve. Once I got the hang of things, I could launch new shows in a day or even a weekend. That said, good planning is key. I break down a suggested six-week timeline for new podcasters—everything from concept and audience research to equipment, recording, editing, feedback, and hosting. Trust me, the more time you spend planning in the beginning, the less time you’ll be spending fixing things later.We also dig into the importance of feedback. Whether you’re getting listeners’ reactions or setting up listening parties to watch how your core audience responds, feedback is what helps you refine and grow your show.I wrap up with tips for making your podcast stand out, advice for building a website and collecting email addresses, and a reminder that your launch strategy matters as much as your content. Plus, a quick book recommendation for anyone working on their visuals—and a little movie review, just for fun!As Always - It DependsIf your podcast is "just for fun" then maybe you don't need to spend so much time thinking about how your show will be different. You do need to check and make sure someone else is not using your name. Check out the Podcast Launch ChecklistWhen It Comes to Podcast MarketingAt it's basic form, podcast marketing strategies start with knowing who your audience is (specifically) and going to where they are. Then make friends with them, a

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Oct 6, 2025Episode 1004
Podcasting Best Practices or Myths? Let's Find Out!

In today's episode, we're going to pull back that curtain on podcasting best practices. And some of these conventions are grounded in logic and proven results, and others might just be myths that we're just blindly following. I explain why I think these are legit, and explain why some of these are not accurate. As always your audience may be different than mine, but based on 20 years in podcasting, these are the just some of the best practices I teach at the School of Podcasting.Why is Recording a Test Episode before launch a Podcast Best Practice?Authors have rough draftsAthletes have pre-seasonActors have dress rehearsalWhen you publish the first thing you record, you are essentially publishing a "rough draft." Anytime you do something for the first time, it's not as good as the second.Why is Defining a Clear Topic or Niche a Podcast Best Practice?It makes it easy to create content. If I'm making dinner for a bunch of vegans, I know what I can make and what I couldn't.This makes it easier to market. Now instead of marketing to Vegans, Carnivore, or those who are Glucose Intolerant, etc.You can also lump this in with the advice of "Know your audience."What appears is a downside may be an upside: a smaller but more loyal audience.Why Is Getting to the Topic ASAP a Podcast Best Practice?Do you have a ton of free time?Look at Netflix, when an episode is over it give you an option to skip the credits and go to the next episode. When you go to the next episode, it prompts you to skip the intro. This leads me to believe it is best to get to the content asap.Why is Knowing Why Your Are Podcasting a Podcast Best Practice?When a podcaster doesn't get the result they had hoped to receive, they quit (often before their 10th episode).If you were hired by a company to earn more money, and then they paid you the same (or less) would you stay?Why is Engaging with Audience and Creating a Community a Podcast Best Practice?The previous best practice was "Get to know your audience." This is how you get to know them.This can be on social, email, anyway you can interact with your audience you should do it.Why is Prioritizing Sound Quality a Podcast Best Practice?You want it to be EASY to consume your content. You don't want the audience to strain to consume your content. Reverb or "room noise" can become a serious issue when the listener is in a car with the noise of the tires on the road. Think of it this way,  smear vaseline on your glasses and try to watch something. You can do it, but it takes extra effort. We need it to

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Sep 29, 2025Episode 1003
Why Your Attitude is More Important Than Your Gear

Podcasting is a wild ride, and who better to ride along with us than Cassian Bellino? She's got this killer attitude that turns failures into stepping stones. Seriously, if you think you need a perfect setup to start podcasting, think again! Cassian talks about how she built her Instagram following to over 113,000 by just being herself and sharing her journey. It's not about how many people listen or follow; it’s about the fact that you’re doing what you love. We dive into the nitty-gritty of social media strategies, like how she engages her audience and drives them from Instagram to her podcast. And let’s be real, if you’re not experimenting and embracing the cringe, are you even trying? So, whether you’re just starting out or looking to level up your podcast game, this episode is packed with gems that remind us it’s all about attitude, authenticity, and that sweet, sweet journey of learning.Takeaways: Cass's secret weapon for success isn't her tools, but her killer attitude that keeps her going. In podcasting, it's essential to embrace failure as a learning experience, not a setback. Even if nobody listens, keep podcasting for yourself and the joy it brings you. Automations and social media strategies can effectively funnel your audience back to your podcast. Links referenced in this episode:schoolofpodcasting.combibspeak.comInstaclub - learn InstagramStampede SocialManychatMentioned in this episode:Unlock Exclusive Insights: Subscribe to 'Podcasting Observations' Newsletter!Get a look into the world of podcasting like never before with "Podcasting Observations," your go-to source for trends, tips, and transformative insights tailored just for podcasters. You also get "behind the scenes" info from the School of Podcasting Don't miss out on staying ahead of the game—join the 1700+ people who are already reading Podcasting Observations today!Podcasting ObservationsSee Your Show On PodpageIf you host a podcast, your website should work as hard as your episodes do. At Podpage, we automatically create a beautiful, professional site for your show — complete with episode pages, transcripts, audio players, SEO optimization, and built-in tools to grow your audience. No design work. No plugins. No

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Sep 22, 2025Episode 1002
Don't Leave a Mess For Your Family - The Fate of Your Podcast After You Die

The past year we've lost some great people in the podcasting family. Neil Guilarte and Todd Cochrane both died suddenly with no warning. If you're not prepared, you leave your family in a lurch adding to the stress of your passing. I bring on The Podcast Lawyer Gordon Firemark to explain some of the ins and outs (Gordon doesn't do wills and such, but can explain the process). As law change based on location you may want to hire someone locally, or use an online tool that adjusts to your location.Takeaways: If you don't have a will, your podcast may not end up where you want it to. Dying without instructions for your podcast can lead to chaos for your family. Setting up a will or a plan for your podcast is just plain smart business. Don't wait until it's too late; get your podcast plans in order now. Having a podcast prenup can save your loved ones from a lot of headaches later. Make sure your family knows how to access your podcast info if you suddenly vanish. Mentioned in this EpisodeSchool of PodcastingGordon FiremarkGordon's YouTube Channel1passwordBitwardenArticle by James Cridland from PodnewsLaw DepotMentioned in this episode:Question of the MonthThis might be harder question to answer because when I ask people, the sometimes freeze. The question? How do you measure success for your podcast beyond download numbers? I need your answer by June 26th, 2026. Don't forget to tell us a little bit about your show and your website address so I can link to it in the show notes.Question of the MonthSee Your Show On PodpageIf you host a podcast, your website should work as hard as your episodes do. At Podpage, we automatically create a beautiful, professional site for your show — complete with episode pages, transcripts, audio players, SEO optimization, and built-in tools to grow your audience. No design work. No plugins. No ongoing maintenance. In less than a minu

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Sep 15, 2025Episode 1001
How Direct Conversations Boost Podcast Popularity

Growing a podcast isn’t just about hitting record and hoping for the best. If you’ve been tuning in, you know we’re all about making remarkable content that actually resonates with listeners. Last week, we dug deep into what successful shows are doing differently, and trust me, it’s not rocket science. It’s about conversation, not just broadcasting. Today, I’m sharing free tools and insights to help connect with your audience better and some juicy news from Spotify that might just change the way you think about your podcast. Spoiler alert: it’s not all sunshine and rainbows. I looked at some of the big names in the biz and guess what? Most of them have one thing in common — they interact with their listeners. They don’t just talk at you; they want to talk with you. We’re talking newsletters, voicemails, and even knowing the eye color of your audience. Because if you can relate to your listeners on that level, you’re doing something right. I even had a hilarious blunder with my email list that turned into a goldmine of feedback — the kind of feedback that makes or breaks your show. So, if you’re still wondering why your podcast isn’t growing, it might be time to roll up those sleeves and get face-to-face with your audience, even if it’s over Zoom. The best way to find out what your audience wants is to ask them. I’m inviting you into my podcast kitchen to help shape future episodes. Because at the end of the day, your podcast should feel like a recipe that everyone can enjoy together. Join me for a live chat on October 16th where we’ll dive into what you want to hear, and let’s make this show the best it can be. Remember, if you want to grow, you have to listen first. Now, go out there and start those conversations!Tools To Get In Touch With Your AudienceYou could do this via <a href="http://Growing a podcast isn’t just about hitting record and hoping for the best. If you’ve been tuning in, you know we’re all about making remarkable content that actually resonates with listeners. Last week, we dug deep into what successful shows are doing differently, and trust me, it’s not rocket science. It’s about conversation, not just broadcasting. Today, I’m sharing free tools and insights to help connect with your audience better and some juicy news from Spotify that might just change the way you think about your podcast. Spoiler alert: it’s not all sunshine and rainbows. I looked at some of the big names in the biz and guess what? Most of them have one thing in common — they interact with their listeners. They don’t j

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Sep 9, 2025
Raising a Glass to Todd Cochran: Podcasting Pioneer

I am still in shock about the loss of Todd Cochrane. I just saw him a few weeks ago 30 lbs lighter and looking great. I've known Todd for 20+ years. The man who wrote the very first book on podcasting. In looking for pictures, I only have this one in a group. Why? Because you always think a person will be there to do it next time. Todd was a character. Unique. There will never be another one. At every event I would end up at a table with Todd, "The Robs" (Greenlee and Walch) and other OGs. Always great to catch up and share insights with the goal of making sure the podcast space was doing OK.I will remember Todd as the courageous advocate of the independent podcaster. At one point he would get deals by grouping shows together. This was a HUGE nightmare of paperwork, but he wanted to see the "indies" make some money. I was one of those indies, and it was one of the first times I made money with a podcast. That wouldn't have happened without Todd.On a recent show he talked about he wouldn't do a deal where the podcaster made less than 70%. Other companies are taking deals of 50%. Not Todd. The podcaster must be paid.I loved that he had a wider view of the podcast space as the CEO of Blubrry and was always sharing what he saw. My favorite phrase to hear Todd say was, "I probably shouldn't say this but..." because you knew what was coming was a doozy. When you hear the stat, "Most podcasters don't make it past episode seven" that was first delivered by Todd Cochran. He was always open to share so if there was a problem so we could all solve it together.Todd was the man behind the People's Choice Podcast Awards. When some shows didn't win, he received death threats. Did it stop him from holding the awards next year? No. Todd earned next to nothing for doing those awards, but did it for the indies (noticing a pattern yet?). Lots of work for next to no pay as long as the indie would benefit. One of my favorite memories of Todd was way back at the New Media Expo. There was an off site party at a bar. I was running the podcast track, and got there late. The bar was at the top of a slope, so I was walking up this slight hill as Todd exited the bar. I believe the ol' sailor had consumed some spirits. Todd had not made it down the two or three steps to the parking lot, so there I was gazing up at Todd who looked 10 feet tall. They had been talking about bigger companies getting into podcasting. Before I could even say hello, Todd raised his fist in the air and shouted, "There is a fox in hen house boys! VIVA LA REVOLUTION!" So there he was, larger than life, fist in the air, up against the dark Vegas sky fighting for the indies. There will never be another Todd Cochrane. RIP My Friend.Todd's Presentation from the New Media Expo 2015 - Reflections on 10 Years of PodcastingTodd Cochrane shared insights from 10 years of podcasting, covering 1024 episodes<

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Sep 8, 2025Episode 1000
How Do I Grow My Podcast Audience?

Over the 20 years there are certain questions that get asked over and over, and today I share my thoughts on How Do I Grow My Podcast Audience? The part that will get me in hot water, is I'm pointing my finger at your content (and delivery). Get the Remarkable Episode ChecklistWho and WhyWhen it comes to growing your podcast, there are two things that drive the content and the first one is who is your audience. It can’t be “everybody” and it can’t be “men 25 to 50” as there is a big difference between those two men. There is one situation that I’ll talk about in a minute that is an exception. The Three R’sRelative Content: Shows the audience, ““I understand where you are, and here’s something useful for you today.”Remarkable Content: Create episodes worth talking about or sharing.  A good podcast reliably informs or entertains with quality, while a remarkable podcast emotionally connects, inspires, and leaves a lasting impression through exceptional storytelling, unique content, or innovative presentationWhen you have relative, remarkable content it resonates with your audience (and they tell a friend).Examine Your Showpodcastsconnect.apple.com and creators.spotify.com allow you to check your completion rate.Community, Community, CommunityYou can use tools like Heartbeat, Systeme, and Circle (Systeme has a free version) to build a community. How many checks does your episode check on the Remarkable Content Checklist?Create a survey for your audience (to find out what they want, and how you're doing delivering value). Podpage has a built in survey based on the book The Audience is Listening by Tom Webster ( a must read).More Ways to Grow Than DownloadsYour podcast leads to relatio

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Sep 1, 2025Episode 999
Hiring Help for Your Podcast: Worth It or Just Burning Cash?

Outsourcing for your podcast is a bit like dating—you have to kiss a lot of frogs before you find your prince (or princess). This episode gets into the nitty-gritty of hiring help for your podcast, featuring stories from our listeners who’ve been there, done that, and got the t-shirt (or the horror story).Kim Newlove shares her success with hiring a coach and how that investment paid off in spades. On the flip side, York's experience is a cautionary tale about the perils of hiring without doing proper research. It’s a mixed bag of outcomes, and we’re here for all of it. We also explore the broader theme of investing in your podcast and the balance between saving money and getting quality help. After all, sometimes you gotta spend a little to save a lot—like time, sanity, and the integrity of your podcast. Tune in for laughs, lessons learned, and a whole lot of real talk on the do’s and don’ts of podcast hiring.Need Help Finding an Editor?If you need help finding an editor use THIS LINK which will go to Steve Stewart who co-runs the Podcast Editor Academy and he will send your information to people in that group. Takeaways:Hiring help for your podcast can feel like tossing cash into a bonfire, trust me on that.Not every graphic designer is a wizard; sometimes they just wave a magic wand and call it a day.If you think a cheap website designer will give you a Gucci site, you’re dreaming, my friend.Outsourcing editing can be a lifesaver, especially if your vacation plans involve avoiding the editing cave.Remember, folks, you either pay in time or in money, so choose wisely, even if it hurts.Always check the credentials of the person you hire for your podcast; a fancy title doesn’t mean they won’t mess everything up.Links referenced in this episode:schoolofpodcasting.compodcastbranding.cothepharmacistsvoice.comperrysburgpodcast.comwelcometoearthstories.comaskralph.commediavoiceovers.com<a href="https:

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Aug 25, 2025Episode 998
Stop Wasting Your Listeners' Time - and other lessons from Podcast Movement

Coming back from Podcast Movement, I've got a story that really drives home the point that nothing beats face-to-face networking. I mean, sure, we can all hop on Zoom and pretend we're connecting, but when you're actually sharing a meal with someone or just hanging out, that's where the magic happens. It's like the difference between texting your buddy and grabbing a beer – one is okay, but the other is where real connections are made. And let's be honest, who doesn't want to make meaningful connections while stuffing their face with overpriced convention center food?Takeaways: Networking in person is way better than any online stuff, seriously, just trust me. Most podcasters are totally wasting their listeners' time with a simple fix in editing. Chapters are a cool tool to help listeners skip to what they actually want to hear. If you want your podcast to grow, you might need to jump into the Podcast Hot Seat. Cutting out unnecessary parts of interviews can save time and keep listeners happy, who knew? Feeling overwhelmed when starting a podcast is totally normal, like, welcome to the club. Links referenced in this episode:schoolofpodcasting.compodcasthotseat.comtuulie.comSocial Media News Live with Jeff SiehWalt Disney World Radio with Lou MongelloMentioned in this episode:See Your Show On PodpageIf you host a podcast, your website should work as hard as your episodes do. At Podpage, we automatically create a beautiful, professional site for your show — complete with episode pages, transcripts, audio players, SEO optimization, and built-in tools to grow your audience. No design work. No plugins. No ongoing maintenance. In less than a minute, you can see exactly what your podcast would look like on Podpage. Go to podpage.com/preview and generate your free preview site now. (No Credit Card Required) See your show the way it should look.PodpageGet Your Podcast Up and Going in Six WeeksDreaming of starting your own podcast but not sure where to begin? Podcasting in Six Weeks gives you a clear, step-by-step path to go from idea to launch with confidence. This practical course is designed to help you create, record, edit,

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Aug 18, 2025Episode 997
Dead Air, Depression, and Dispatch Dave: Inside Sirius Satellite Radio

I've known Dave Hooper (host of Build a Big Podcast and Author of Big Podcast) since he put on the radio for the first time on Music Business Radio. When I heard that Dave had scored a job at Sirius I wanted the inside scoop on what it's like to work there, and what the heck is a "Producer."Dave explains that he got the job while being in "a funk" and he used that situation to introduce more "real" topics to channel 146 at 7 AM and Road Dog Trucking. I also share one sentence that jumped out at me from the Taylor Swift appearance on the new heights show. Takeaways: Ever wondered what it’s like at Sirius Satellite Radio? Well, buckle up, buddy, because David Hooper is here to spill the tea on some wild stories, including a hilarious instance of dead air that’ll make you cringe. Seriously, it’s gold. So, David’s job is basically a mix of five different roles. I mean, booking guests, prepping shows, running the board, cutting promos—what's next, making coffee? It’s a circus behind the scenes, folks! We all know live radio can be a hot mess, right? David shares how he’s had to dust off some old skills and navigate the chaos of live broadcasting. Spoiler: mistakes happen, and dead air is just part of the fun! Turns out, podcasting and satellite radio aren’t that different after all. Both have their own unique challenges, but the real magic lies in connecting with the audience and building that sweet community vibe. David’s new gig at Sirius has taught him some serious life skills, like staying calm and collected under pressure. Who knew being a radio producer would be like a masterclass in Zen? At the end of the day, it's all about community and connection. David’s show is like a virtual truck stop, bringing people together to chat about everything from addiction to marriage on the road. Seriously, where else can you get that kind of therapy? Links MentionedBuild a Big PodcastBig Podcast BookChannel 146School of PodcastingPower of PodcastingMentioned in this episode:Get Your Podcast Up and Going in Six WeeksDreaming of starting your own podcast but not sure where to begin? Podca

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Aug 11, 2025Episode 996
Why Your Media Kit is Probably Trash: Lessons from Justin Moore

Justin Moore is here to tell us how to snag sponsors like a pro. We chat about his book, Sponsor Magnet. Seriously, if you’re trying to get sponsors for your podcast, this is the book you need—like, yesterday. He dives into the absurdities of podcast monetization and how it’s not just about your download numbers but about your influence. Justin shares some gold nuggets on pitching strategies and why sending out a basic media kit is basically waving a white flag in the sponsorship battle. So, grab a snack, sit back, and let’s unravel the crazy world of podcast sponsorships together!This show is brought to you buy the School of PodcastingTakeaways: In the world of podcasting, having a solid media kit is apparently as useful as a chocolate teapot, so maybe just don’t bother with it. Justin Moore's book 'Sponsor Magnet' is the secret sauce for podcasters looking to snag sponsors without losing their minds. Podcasters are taught to monetize their audience, not just their podcast, which is a revelation that could make us all rich - or at least less broke. When pitching to sponsors, forget the cookie-cutter approach; make your pitch relevant to their current campaigns and watch the magic happen! Video content has a distinct edge over audio when it comes to attracting sponsorships, because brands love to reuse content like it’s a favorite pair of jeans. If you get feedback from your audience about a sponsored product, don’t just sweep it under the rug; share it with the brand to improve future campaigns. Learn the A.R.C.H. and R.O.P.E. strategies to get more money coming your way.Links referenced in this episode:schoolofpodcasting.comsponsormagnet.comcreatorwizard.comSponsor GamesJustin's Newsletter with Sponsors looking to partnerSponsor Magnet - the PodcastJustin's YouTube Channel<a h

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Aug 4, 2025Episode 995
No More 'Um's: Your Guide to Speaking Like a Pro!

Filler words. We all know them, we all use them, and let’s be real, they’re annoying. You might think it’s just you fumbling through a sentence with a bunch of ‘uhs’ and ‘ums’, but guess what? We’re all in the same boat, paddling away from clarity and straight into the sea of confusion.In this episode, I dig into the strategies to kick those pesky crutch words to the curb. We chat about how you can sound smarter (yes, you heard that right) by practicing your communication skills and being more aware of what’s coming out of your mouth. With tips ranging from joining a Toastmasters club to simply taking a pause instead of filling the space with ‘you knows,’ we’re here to help you become the smooth-talking superstar you were meant to be. So let’s ditch the filler words together and find out how to express ourselves without sounding like we’re stuck in a loop of hesitation!What Stays and What Goes?For me, any time I can make myself or a guest sound smarter I will do it. For me, I go for the low hanging fruit. This is when um someone just has um a standalone um all by itself. You can easily highlight it and press delete. The ums I leave alone are those that run into another word. Tool like Descript and Riverside have built in tools to remover filler words. Be careful with these as they can be a bit aggressive. A good edit is one that doesn't sound like an edit was made. This is why I don't obsess over every single filler words because we all occasionally say "um." It becomes an issue when people lose sight of what you're saying because they are distracted by how you are saying it.Takeaways: Filler words are the annoying little gremlins of speech we all battle with, and they're everywhere. Practicing with Toastmasters is like getting a gym membership for your speaking skills, minus the sweat. Confidence is key; the more prepared you are, the less you sound like a crutch-word factory. Taking pauses instead of using filler words is like giving your brain time to catch up with your mouth, which is crucial. Editing your recordings helps you become painfully aware of those pesky fillers, so you can kick them to the curb. Using outlines and scripts can save you from sounding like you're making it up as you go, and trust me, that's a lifesaver! Links referenced in this episode:schoolofpodcasting.compodcasteditoracademy.com<a href="https://thepharmacistvoice.com" rel="noope

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Jul 28, 2025Episode 994
15 Lessons Podcasters Can learn From Ozzy Osbourne

Ozzy Osbourne's recent passing has got me feeling all sorts of ways. I mean, who didn’t grow up jamming to ‘Crazy Train’ or wishing we could be half as cool as him? This isn’t just about mourning a rock legend; it’s about learning from the antics of a guy who built an empire on being unapologetically himself. So today, I’m diving deep into 15 lessons that podcasters can snag from Ozzy’s playbook. From being true to yourself (and not giving a hoot about the haters) to surrounding yourself with good people (looking at you, Sharon), I’m spilling the tea on how to keep your podcast alive and vibrant. Plus, I’ll share some wild stories about Ozzy’s crazy life that’ll make you laugh and cringe at the same time. Buckle up, because we’re about to rock this podcast world with some serious, Ozzy-inspired vibes!Mentioned In This EpisodeWDW Radio PodcastLou Monegello's TourBattery Organizer (aff)School of PodcastingTakeaways: Ozzy Osbourne may have died, but his legacy of being unapologetically himself lives on forever. Lessons from Ozzy include being true to yourself and ignoring the critics who just don't get it. Surrounding yourself with good people is key; even Ozzy had Sharon in his corner. Don't sweat perfection when creating content; just get out there and do it! Mentioned in this episode:Question of the MonthThis might be harder question to answer because when I ask people, the sometimes freeze. The question? How do you measure success for your podcast beyond download numbers? I need your answer by June 26th, 2026. Don't forget to tell us a little bit about your show and your website address so I can link to it in the show notes.Question of the MonthSee Your Show On PodpageIf you host a podcast, your website should work as hard as your episodes do. At Podpage, we automatically create a beautiful, professional site for your show — complete with episode pages, transcripts, audio players, SEO optimization, and built-in tools to grow your audience. No design work. No plugins. No ongoing maintenance. In less than a minute, you can see exactly what your podcast would look like on Podpage. Go to podpage.com/preview and generate your free preview site now. (No Credit Card Required) See your show the way it should look.PodpageGet Your Podc

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Jul 21, 2025Episode 993
What's In It For The Audience? With Traci DeForge

Traci DeForge is here to her knowledge about podcasting for your business without feeling like a total salesy weirdo. She’s busting the myth that you need 10,000 downloads to make a buck—seriously, you can start monetizing with just 1,500 listeners. We talk about how to weave your podcast into your business strategy without sounding like a used car salesman. If you’ve ever felt awkward about asking for sales, Traci’s got the lowdown on how to do it without the cringe. So, grab your earbuds and get ready to learn how to turn your podcast into a money-making machine while keeping it real and relatable!Takeaways: Most podcasters wrongly believe they need to drop $10k to start monetizing. Traci DeForge busted the myth that you need 10,000 listeners; 1,500 can do it too! Podcasting is all about strategy; it’s not just talking into a mic, folks! You've got to view your podcast as part of your whole business model, not just a side gig. Feeling salesy? Get over it! Your mindset can really change how you sell. If you don't ask for what you're worth, you might be leaving money on the table! Links referenced in this episode:schoolofpodcasting.comproduceyourpodcast.compodpage.comSecrets of Closing the Sale - Zig Ziglar (Audible)Traci DeForgeHelping business owners & brands turn their expertise into strategic podcasts that build authority, attract qualified leads & drive revenue. Full-service, 360° podcast solutions from strategy to sponsorship.As Founder & CEO of Produce Your Podcast, I help business owners, brands, and thought leaders transform their expertise into strategic media platforms that build authority, attract qualified leads, and generate revenue. From early-stage startups to my work with Fortune 500 companies, including Google, Hilton, Weight Watchers International, Microsoft, and British Airways, I am internationally recognized for identifying successful business development opportunities for innovative growth. Recognized as a Top 10 Podcasting Services Provider by Media & Entertainment Business Review (2024), we’ve launched and managed over 160 B2B and B2C podcasts, supporting startups and global brands across the technology, legal, finance, and healthcare sectors.With 30+ years of experience in award-winning media production, broadcast radio, and business development, I developed a full-service podcasting mode

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Jul 14, 2025Episode 992
Are Big Companies Poisoning Podcasting?

Are Spotify and YouTube poisoning podcasting?I keep hearing how "What used to work in the past - doesn't work anymore? Well I disagree. Making great content that resonates with your audience has been around since the early days of radio, and if it make them FEEL something, you've got something that is golden. Giant companies always put profit over people, and with the latest AI band called the Velvet Sundown which has six figure streams. Why are AI Bands better than real musicians?They don't get sickThey don't complain about not getting paidThey can provide more music, more frequentlySo if the world starts to accept AI artists, if you're Spotify, why wouldn't you introduce an AI podcaster to deliver an evergreen topic? Spotify could promote it to make it popular and then run advertising against it and not have to worry about splitting the revenue with a podcaster.Both YouTube and Spotify entice you in with free services, and then once you grow dependent on them, they can do whatever they want and you don't have a lot of control. If you say the wrong thing, you're kicked off the platform. Rosanne Barr (who is Jewish) for saying something deemed hate speech about Jewish people while she is herself Jewish. It was Sarcasm. Rosanne started her career as a comedian. Big Companies Often Put Profit Over Doing the Right ThingPurdue Pharma has been accused of mislabeling opioids that lead to lots of overdoses. Johnson and Johnson faced lawsuits about cancer and talcum power. Wells Fargo was fined millions for having employees open millions of account without the customer consent. I could go on and assemble a very long list. Just keep your eyes open, and watch as these companies that have come into podcasting with free offerings to interrupt the space, take control and bend it to suit their needs (not those of the host or the listener).Sponsor Magnet Book ReviewThe Ultimate Book on Sponsorships/Partnerships, "Sponsor Magnet: How to Attract, Price, & Execute Your Dream Brand Partnerships" by Justin Moore. It is THE book for those looking to create partnerships with brand (not just a one time payment). The book shows you how to find out who to talk to, what to say, how to say it, and to overdeliver to they keep sponsoring the show. The audio book has bonus content that was very cool as you hear people talking about putting the strategies into practice. You can get it on Audible if you're more of a listener than reader.Takeaways: If you're

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Jul 7, 2025Episode 991
How to Keep Your Marriage While Chasing Podcasting Dreams

Juggling podcasting and personal life can feel like trying to balance on a three-legged stool while juggling flaming torches. In this episode, I look into the not-so-secret ingredients for maintaining a healthy work-life balance as a podcaster. We kick things off with a hard-hitting question: what happens when your love for podcasting starts to mess with your health and relationships? It's a real thing, folks, and I’ve seen it happen. I share my personal stories, including the ups and downs of my own marriages, and throw in some sarcastic wisdom learned from the school of hard knocks. I'm not claiming to be relationship experts, but we’ve been around the block a few times. I break down a simple yet effective framework for content creators: health, attitude, and support. Yes, I know, it sounds like a motivational poster, but stick with me. If you're not healthy enough to hit record, or if your attitude sounds like you just woke up on the wrong side of the bed, guess what? Your podcast is gonna suck. And don’t even get me started on the importance of having a supportive partner who doesn’t roll their eyes every time you mention your latest podcast episode. I share tips on how to set expectations with your spouse, maximize your time, and avoid those sneaky time-sucking distractions like binge-watching YouTube shorts at 2 AM. Trust me, your future self will thank you. By the end, you'll walk away with practical advice on how to keep your relationships intact while you chase your podcasting dreams. From date nights to timeouts during arguments, I’ve got you covered. It’s all about being intentional and proactive in nurturing your personal life while you’re busy building your podcast empire. And let’s be real, no one wants to end up in a messy divorce because they spent too much time talking to a mic instead of their partner. So grab your headphones and let’s get to it!Links referenced in this episode:schoolofpodcasting.comnotejoy.comtodoist.comvidiq.comVidIQ Short Video About Thumbnails and Titles.schoolofpodcasting.com/contactThe Seven Habits of Highly Effective People BookLove and Respect: