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It Was Almost Real: The Pro Wrestling History Podcast

kenzimmermanjr·Hosted by Ken Zimmerman Jr.·100 episodes

SportsWrestlingSolo narratorWrestling history30-45 minWeeklyStandalone episodesEarly pro wrestling

Podcast about professional wrestling history from 1870 to 1920.

Why listen

It Was Almost Real is for wrestling fans who want the roots of the business, not just another recap of last week's booking. Ken Zimmerman Jr. digs into professional wrestling from the 1870s through the early 1900s, then often connects that history to later territories, classic cards, documentaries, and modern wrestling culture. It is a straightforward solo history show that works especially well for listeners who like forgotten athletes, old newspaper-era mysteries, and the slow reveal of how kayfabe, promoters, titles, and worked matches developed.

Episodes

1 hr
Jun 1, 2026Episode 138
Memorial? I'm Not Dead Yet

In this St. Louis-centric episode, I discuss Jim Londos wrestling Dan Kolov (Koloff) on one of the early John Contos-Tom Packs cards in 1923. I also discuss WWF trying to capitalize on St. Louis history in 1986.

42 min
May 25, 2026Episode 137
Gust Karras

In this episode, I discuss the early matches of longtime St. Joseph, Missouri wrestling promoter Gust Karras. I also review two of Karras' cards.

44 min
May 18, 2026Episode 136
Zbyszko vs. Olson

In this episode, I discuss the May 28, 1910 in St. Louis, Missouri between Stanislaus Zbyszko and Charley Olson. I also review the Netflix documentary on Hulk Hogan.

40 min
May 11, 2026Episode 135
Scufflers, Shooters, and Workers

In this episode, I discussed the lessons I learned writing Scufflers, Shooters, and Workers: Pioneer Wrestlers of the 19th Century, Vol. 1. I also discuss Sam Muchnick establishing Ted DiBiase as a main event wrestler from 1978 to 1980.

33 min
May 4, 2026Episode 134
Gotch Working?

In this episode, I discuss a March 1901 match between Frank Gotch and Oscar Wasem in Burlington, Iowa. I also review a World Class Championship Wrestling show from May 1983.

38 min
Apr 27, 2026Episode 133
Gone But Not Forgotten

In this episode, we discuss a horrible contest between Clarence Whistler and Duncan C. Ross in November 1881. I also review a WWF card from November 1986 in St. Louis that my cousin Dan and I attended.

46 min
Apr 20, 2026Episode 132
Stan Zbyszko Wins

In this episode, we discuss Stanislaus Zbyszko finally winning the world title in 1921. I also review a Fred Kohler Chicago card from 1936.

34 min
Apr 16, 2026Episode 131
Supercards (Bonus)

In this episode, I discuss two early supercards in 1911 and 1934. I also review Wrestlemania III, WWF's biggest show of the national expansion.

40 min
Apr 13, 2026Episode 130
I'll Drop It to My Cousin

In this episode, I discuss the match between James E. Owens, who had a claim to the American Collar-and-Elbow Wrestling Championship, and his first cousin, the powerful John McMahon. I also review Championship Wrestling from Florida on May 16, 1984.

43 min
Apr 6, 2026Episode 129
Fluke Title Changes

In this episode, I discuss short title reigns that made the champions look like fluke champions. I also review 2026 AAA Rey de Reyes Tournament card.

43 min
Mar 30, 2026Episode 128
2 Fakers and All Out 2021

In this episode, I discuss 19th Century professional wrestlers Andre Christol and Thiebaud Bauer plus review All Out 2021, AEW's highest selling pay-per-view to date.

37 min
Mar 23, 2026Episode 127
Tragic Accident

In this episode, I discuss Charlie Olson accidentally killing a wrestler in the ring during January 1911. I also review a WWA All-Star Wrestling Show from Indianapolis on May 4, 1974.

36 min
Mar 16, 2026Episode 126
Wasem vs. Carroll

In this episode, I discuss a contest between Oscar Wasem and Joe Caroll, who is better known as J.C. Marsh or Ollie Marsh, in 1907.

37 min
Mar 9, 2026Episode 125
Boxer vs. Wrestler

In this episode, I discuss Tom Sharkey, a professional boxer and part-time wrestler, wrestling "Sailor" Tom Piening, a professional wrestler in February 1904. I also review The Smashing Machine starring Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson as Mark Kerr.

33 min
Mar 2, 2026Episode 124
Dufur and Ross

In this episode, I discuss a mixed styles bout betweeen Henry Moses Dufur and Duncan C. Ross. I catch up on WWE Raw and review a Championship Wrestling from Florida show in 1982.

35 min
Feb 23, 2026Episode 123
Spot Show Town

In this episode, we discuss the history of professional wrestling in the city of Cape Girardeau, Missouri.

29 min
Feb 16, 2026Episode 122
Memphis Heat

In this episode, I discuss the early career of Reggie Siki, the first nationally known African-American wrestler. I also review the documentary Memphis Heat.

38 min
Feb 9, 2026Episode 121
Riley in the U.S.

In this episode, I discuss Billy Riley, founder of Wigan's Snake Pit, wrestling in the United States during 1922 and 1923. I look at Jack Claybourne's 1940 five month tour of Massachusetts. I also review WWE Unreal Season 2 on Netflix.

39 min
Feb 2, 2026Episode 120
True Crime

In this episode, I look at two murders involving wrestlers or related to wrestling.

42 min
Jan 30, 2026Episode 119
Harry Hill

In this episode, I discuss Harry Hill, New York sporting man and collar-and-elbow professional wrestler, who played a large role in professional wrestling and prizefighting in the 1860s and 1870s.

39 min
Jan 19, 2026Episode 118
Jiu Jitsu vs. Wrestling

In this episode, I discuss a mixed styles contest between Marin Plestina and Taro Miyake in 1920.

51 min
Jan 12, 2026Episode 117
The Champ is Here

In this episode, I discuss Stanislaus Zbyszko "winning" his first world title in May 1921. I also review a Southeastern Championship card from 1984.

37 min
Jan 5, 2026Episode 116
Fake! But It's Not

In this episode, I discuss a two-match series between Yusuf Ismail and Ernest Roeber from New York City in March-April, 1898.

37 min
Dec 29, 2025Episode 115
Gotch the Boxer

In this episode, I discuss Frank Goch's brief foray into professional boxing. I also compare two Los Angeles cards in 1925. Finally, I discuss the 2026 podcast schedule.

52 min
Dec 22, 2025Episode 114
Santel in Japan

In this episode, I discuss Ad Santel's tour of Japan in 1921.

37 min
Dec 15, 2025Episode 113
Catch in a Jacket

In this episode, I discuss an odd arrangement for a catch-as-catch-can wrestling match in 1881. I review one of Sam Muchnick's cards after the formation of the National Wrestling Alliance.

51 min
Dec 8, 2025Episode 112
Shikat Not Stanislaus

In this episode, I talk about the conflating of two of the biggest double-crosses in professional wrestling. I also talk about a Jack Curley card from 1917.

31 min
Dec 1, 2025Episode 111
Homer Works Us

In this episode, I discuss a collar-and-elbow match with Homer Lane in 1875. I also compare Tom Packs' and Sam Muchnick's St. Louis wrestling cards in April 1946.

50 min
Nov 24, 2025Episode 110
Larry Runs Outlaw

In this episode, I discuss Larry Matysik starting an outlaw wrestling promotion in St. Louis during 1983.

51 min
Nov 17, 2025Episode 109
The Great Unknown

In this episode, I discuss the career of 19th Century professional wrestler D.A. McMillan. I also discuss recent gambling schemes.

46 min
Nov 10, 2025Episode 108
Not Quite the King

In this episode, I will discuss the incredible career  of Aleksander "Alex" Aberg from 1914-1917 in the United States.

31 min
Nov 3, 2025Episode 107
To Replace the King

In this episode, I discuss the race to replace Frank Gotch in 1915, Ad Santel in Japan, AI in wrestling, and a personal update.

30 min
Oct 27, 2025Episode 106
Hotlanta

In this episode, I discuss one of the first regular Atlanta cards in February 1926. I end the podcast with bonus content about famed hooker Ad Santel.

36 min
Oct 20, 2025Episode 105
Feats of Strength

In this episode, I discuss 19th Century pioneer wrestler Sorakichi Matsuda, the first Japanese professional wrestler in the United States.

1 hr 12 min
Oct 13, 2025Episode 104
Studyin' and Learnin'

In this episode, I discuss misconceptions that I had going into writing projects. I also discuss discoveries and things that shocked me.

52 min
Oct 6, 2025Episode 103
Santel Slams

In this episode, I discuss one of the greatest "hookers" of all time, Ad Santel. I also discuss how Clash of Champions 9 demonstrated all the warts of WCW in 1989.

31 min
Sep 29, 2025Episode 102
We're Supposed to be Working!

In this episode, I discuss an out-of-control exhibition between Clarence Whistler and Andre Christol in 1882

43 min
Sep 22, 2025Episode 101
That Pesky Kayfabe

In this episode, I discuss three cases that led to police arresting wrestlers.

1 hr 26 min
Sep 15, 2025Episode 100
Jim Londos and St. Louis

In this episode, I discuss Jim Londos importance to the St. Louis promotion as well as St. Louis' importance to the development of Jim Londos.

32 min
Sep 1, 2025Episode 99
Verne Was a Mark for Verne

In this episode, I review The Wrestler (1974) and discuss the 1891 wrestling match between former American Heavyweight Wrestling Champion Joe Acton and future World Heavyweight Boxing Champion Bob Fitzsimmons.

48 min
Aug 25, 2025Episode 98
Watch the Promoter

In this episode, we discuss a potential double-cross in 1916.

44 min
Aug 18, 2025Episode 97
Earliest Working Group?

In this episode, I discuss a possible circuit of working collar-and-elbow wrestlers in the 1860s and 1870s.

57 min
Aug 4, 2025Episode 96
Wladek, 1913 to 1915

In this episode, I will be discussing the other Zbyszko, Wladek Zbyszko, and his early days in America between 1913 and 1915.

36 min
Jul 28, 2025Episode 95
The Hulkster

In this episode, I discuss the recent passing of Hulk Hogan. I also name who I think the most comparable historical wrestler is to Hogan.

45 min
Jul 21, 2025Episode 94
Rubbing His Face In It

In this episode, I discuss Yusuf Ismail versus Tom Jenkins. I also discuss the first St. Louis card I attended with my sister Vicky.

35 min
Jul 7, 2025Episode 93
Winging It

In this episode, I discuss the July 4, 1916 match between Earl Caddock and William Demetral in Anita, Iowa.

32 min
Jun 30, 2025Episode 92
Shot for Working?

In this episode, I discuss the murder of a professional wrestler in the 1860s, who gamblers thought worked a match to bilk them out of gambling money.

37 min
Jun 23, 2025Episode 91
Exposes

In this episode, I discuss the limited damage exposes have done to the worked nature of professional wrestling.

41 min
Jun 16, 2025Episode 90
Managoff, Sr. & Jr.

In this episode, I discuss the first father-son professional wrestlers, Bob Managoff and Bobby Managoff, Jr.

50 min
Jun 2, 2025Episode 89
Strangler Wins

In this episode, I discuss finding the deciding contest between Ed "Strangler" Lewis and Joe Stecher. I also discuss why the myth about Joe Stecher's 1925-1928 World Title reign persist.

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Best for: commutes, long drives, housework, evening listening
Tone: historical, straightforward, research-driven, conversational

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