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Get Messy with Maddie

Maddie McGuire·65 episodes

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Get Messy is the mindset podcast for creatives who want sustainable, successful careers — without losing their sanity. Hosted by Maddie McGuire, a performer of 10+ years and currently in grad school to become a therapist, each episode goes deep on the mental side of the creative grind: core beliefs, mindset blocks, facing obstacles, making a living as a creative, chasing dreams, and what it takes to stay in the game.

Episodes

49 min
May 27, 2026Episode 36
64. Limiting Beliefs, Career Growth, and What It Really Means to Double Down as an Actor with Amy Austin

This one hit me differently — because I got to witness so much of what Amy talks about in real time. Amy Austin (formerly Amy McNabb) is a voice actor, singer, and the founder of Actors Encouraged — a coaching community dedicated to supporting ambitious actors in building their happiest, most sustainable careers. She is also my mindset coach, and I can genuinely say this conversation is everything I've wanted to put into the world for a while now.We get into her intentional, strategic approach to building her voiceover career — the classes, the community, the network — and what it actually looks like to “double-down” in your acting career. We also talk about the seismic mindset shift that happened in a Broadway theater in New York, the difference between "showboat" classes and classes where you actually get to fall apart, core desired feelings, and why we all tend to miss our own growth. Amy is warm, wildly wise, and so honest — this one is a love letter to every creative who's still figuring it out.Timestamps0:00 — Introducing Amy Austin (formerly Amy McNabb)!1:38 — "What would you title this current season of your life?" — Amy's honest answer2:15 — Figuring it out: being 36, being in a new chapter, and not having the title yet3:55 — How Amy spent the last year strategically building her VO toolbox5:57 — The Voiceover Academy: starting from the beginning and trusting her instincts9:39 — Showboat classes vs. learning classes — the framework every actor needs13:47 — Doubling down in your acting career14:37 — The Broadway trip that changed everything15:00 — Operation Mincemeat and the seismic shift: "Oh, I can still do this"17:01 — The vocal injury at Hershey Park and the limiting belief it created17:01 — What "doubling down" means practically: doing all the auditions, taking dance class again, not giving yourself an out21:35 — Core desired feelings and The Desire Map by Danielle LaPorte23:00 — Amy's four core desired feelings for this chapter24:25 — Saying yes to the 6:15 AM hike — and why work begets work33:48 — Do actors still feel behind? Amy's 2.0 answer two years later36:37 — We tend to miss our own growth — and why old voices come back at new levels38:35 — GLP-1s, AI, and the things surfacing old noise for millennial women38:35 — ChatGPT is great for planning your Disneyland trip. Please don't use it to process your emotions.44:09 — Zooming in and zooming

14 min
May 20, 2026Episode 35
63. Reclaiming Your Life Narrative: Are You the Author of Your Own Story?

Someone has been narrating your life — and there's a real chance it isn't you.In this episode, I'm sharing a conversation I had with a close friend that completely cracked me open. She's a painter trying to make the leap into paid creative work, and when a roadblock came up, what stopped her wasn't the obstacle itself — it was the story she'd built around it. A story that wasn't even hers.We get into the comfort of denial (and why it costs you more than you think), how to tell the difference between something you genuinely want and something you're just speed skating in your head about, and why fear is, truly, the worst writer in the room. This episode is an invitation to pause, question the narrative, and ask yourself: who is actually holding the pen right now?TIMESTAMPS[00:00] — Someone is narrating your life right now — is it you?[00:58] — The conversation that started it all: a friend who felt like absolute shit[03:56] — A painter trying to go from free work to paid work — and the wall she kept hitting[07:49] — "Everyone who does digital art started at 18 or 19" — and the story hiding inside that[09:11] — The moment I stopped being shocked by the roadblock and started being shocked by the story[01:18] — Welcome to Get Messy[04:41] — Denial is comfortable — not in a luxurious way, more like a padded cocoon with a nail in it[06:22] — Why complaining is more comfortable than change (and what it's actually costing you)[06:17] — Have you ever handed someone else the pen to your life story?[07:24] — The story my mom told me about the 2006 Olympics — and why she was right[07:51] — "You're speed skating in your head" — and the difference between loving a dream vs. actually wanting it[07:49] — Do you love it enough to sacrifice for it?[09:31] — When the real answer underneath "I'm too old" is actually just fear of failing[09:32] — By not trying, you are failing before you even give yourself the chance to fail[10:01] — Failing your way into success — why failure is information, not a verdict[10:01] — Do not let fear be your narrator. Fear is a terrible writer.[10:58] — You are the lead of your own life story — everyone else is a side character[11:12] — Whenever you hear an opinion about your life, pause before you absorb it as truth[12:09] — How different would her story look if she picked up her own pen?[13:04] — This is your story. Tell it like you mean it.[13:14] — If this episode stirred something up — send me a DM, leave a review, share itRESOURCES MENTIONEDListen to Get Me

49 min
May 13, 2026Episode 34
62. Redefining Success and Happiness with Stella Stephanopoulos

This one felt like a therapy session and a masterclass in joy — all in one conversation. I sat down with Stella Stephanopoulos, innovation consultant at Accenture, yoga instructor at Equinox, and the founder of Everyday Endorphins — a happiness podcast and wellness community she's been building since high school. Five-plus years, nearly 180 episodes, and a perspective on happiness that genuinely stopped me in my tracks.We get into what it actually means to choose happiness (spoiler: it has nothing to do with forcing positivity), why we're living in a loneliness epidemic and what's really driving it, the difference between chasing labels vs. building an identity, and how to move from limiting beliefs to liberating ones. Stella is brilliant, warm, and so deeply thoughtful — I came out of this conversation feeling genuinely lighter.In This Episode We Cover:The "discovery" chapter — why Stella feels younger at 26 than she did at 22, and what it means to finally give yourself timeHolding two identities — being a corporate consultant and a wellness community builder without losing yourself in eitherBuilding something from the beginning — how Everyday Endorphins started as a high school Instagram account and became a 180-episode blueprint for how Stella wants to liveThe loneliness epidemic — why connection is the common denominator of joy, and why we've lost our ability to create itWe don't experience the world, we experience our nervous system — what this actually means and how to use itHappiness is a choice — and the burnt toast theory that will change how you respond to everythingLimiting vs. liberating beliefs — the framework from Beyond Belief that helps Stella flip self-doubt into confidenceThe Kid Cudi quote that hit different — "The victim and the villain are the same"Asking for what you need — why advocating for yourself is the thing Stella is still learning, and why so many of us are right there with herSigning your own permission slip — the difference between seeking advice and seeking validationRapid fire: the messiest thing about Stella (it's the hair — and her mom will back me up on this)Timestamps0:00 — Introducing Stella Stephanopolous!0:30 — Stella's current chapter: "Discovery" — and why she feels younger at 26 than she did at 224:08 — The pressure to rush through life & what patience actually means as a practice7:52 — "Wherever you go, there you are" — holding two identities: corporate consultant and wellness comm

23 min
May 6, 2026Episode 33
61. What You're Not Changing, You're Choosing | Overcoming Analysis Paralysis & Taking Charge in Your Life

There's a quote that hit me like a ton of bricks — and it might do the same to you: "What you're not changing, you're choosing."In this episode, I get radically honest about the four areas of my own life where I'd been talking about change, researching change, making Pinterest boards about change — and still choosing to stay exactly where I was. We go deep on what analysis paralysis is actually costing you, how small intentional action is the only thing that ever creates real momentum, and why you are almost never as stuck as you think you are.This is a personal one. And it might just be the permission slip you didn't know you were waiting for.RESOURCES MENTIONEDMegan Gill — Continued Conversations (body image, healing your relationship with your body)Kaki Gaines — Personal Stylist (color analysis, wardrobe, personal style)Kimberlea Kressal’s Idea Lab — a writing class focused on accessing the ideas already living inside of youTIMESTAMPS[00:00] — The quote that changed everything: "What you're not changing, you're choosing"[01:23] — Welcome back to Get Messy — and why this episode is a personal one[03:43] — The four areas of my life I'd been avoiding changing[04:45] — Area 1: My body — working out consistently and still feeling completely disconnected[04:52] — Area 2: Personal style — overwhelmed, spinning my wheels, and the Tan France spiral[05:34] — Area 3: Creativity — quietly pushing aside the thing that makes me happiest[06:20] — Area 4: Hiding — when "choosing not to share" became something else entirely[07:29] — What does choosing differently actually look like? Getting specific[07:57] — The body: strength training, Pilates, and signing up for my first half marathon[10:47] — The style: why I finally hired a stylist (and why you might want to too)[13:39] — The creativity: giving myself one sacred hour a day — before anything else[15:51] — The hiding: starting small, sharing what felt safe, and hiding my like count[18:07] — Real change doesn't arrive in one big sweeping moment[18:46] — How knowing yourself is the secret to actually making change stick[20:10] — What my therapist said that I keep coming back to[22:21] — You are not stuck. You're choosing — and you can choose again.✨Connect with Maddie✨<a href="https://maddiemcguirecoaching.com/" rel="ugc no

54 min
Apr 29, 2026Episode 32
60. Taylor Misiak on Imposter Syndrome, Trusting Your Gut, and Why "Making It" in Hollywood Isn't What You Think

Today's guest is someone I actually worked with early in both of our careers, which makes this conversation extra special.Taylor Misiak is known for FX's Dave and is currently starring on Fox's Going Dutch (plus filming Tires Season 3 and more). By every measure, she's someone who has "made it" — and she's here to tell you exactly why that phrase is a myth.In this episode, we get into the real mindset shifts that actually sustain a career in this industry. We talk about her tradition of labeling champagne bottles to mark milestones as a mental health anchor, reframing auditions as the job (not just a means to a job), what it's really like to be married to a fellow creative, and why booking a hit show doesn't mean the hustle stops. She's charming, hilarious, and so authentically honest — this one is a warm, giant hug for every actor grinding it out.In This Episode We Cover:"Booking the job isn't the finish line" — and why understanding that is what finally sets so many actors freeThe champagne bottle tradition — how Taylor uses milestone labeling as a real mental health anchorReframing auditions as the actual job of an actor, not just the road to itWhat it's really like to be married to a fellow creative — the beauty and the chaosTrusting your gut and handling rejection without losing perspectiveWhy booking a hit TV show doesn't mean the hustle stops — and what comes after "making it"The myth of arrival — why success looks different up close than it does from the outside✨ Connect with Taylor ✨Instagram: @taylormisiak✨Connect with Maddie✨Explore Maddie's Website | @messywithmaddie

28 min
Apr 22, 2026Episode 31
59. If Not You, Then Who? | Why You Need to Stop Waiting for Permission to Start

You've been told the market is too saturated. You've told yourself you should have started sooner. And somewhere in the back of your mind, that thing you want to build is still quietly begging for your attention.In this episode, I'm calling out the excuses keeping you on the sidelines -the saturated market myth, the "I should have started earlier" spiral, and the waiting-for-permission trap that so many creatives fall into. We dig into what it really costs you when you don't take action, why your unique voice is the only differentiator that actually matters, and the one question that will either free you or haunt you: If not you, then who?This one's for anyone sitting on the precipice of the thing they most want - and finding every reason not to take the leap.TIMESTAMPS[00:00] — The saturated market excuse (and why it's keeping you stuck)[03:30] — Every market is missing your specific voice[07:00] — The "I should have started sooner" spiral — and the grief inside it[11:00] — The real cost of waiting: an unlived life swirling inside of you[16:00] — You're not waiting for the right moment — you're waiting for permission[19:30] — Why no one else's permission will ever feel valid enough[22:00] — The identity shift required before results ever show up[25:00] — If not you, then who?✨Connect with Maddie✨Explore Maddie’s Website | @messywithmaddie

49 min
Apr 15, 2026Episode 30
58. From NICU Nurse to Viral Photographer: How Nicole Chino Built a Business Around Motherhood

Okay, this one is extra special to me — because I've known today's guest since we were five years old.Nicole Chino is a NICU nurse of 10+ years, a mom, a wife, and the founder of Nicole Chino Photography — a booming newborn, maternity, and family photography business she built from scratch while balancing 12-hour hospital shifts and raising her babies. In just the last year, she went from 500 to 14K followers and had a reel cross 500K likes. Yeah. We're talking about all of it.In this episode, we get into the real, messy truth of building something while you're still figuring out who you are. We talk charging your worth, the loneliness of being your own boss, going viral, pushing through the cringe of showing up online, and why motherhood became the engine behind everything she's built.If you're a creative trying to turn your passion into something real — or you're just in a season of becoming — this episode is for you. In This Episode We Cover:The "becoming" season — what it actually feels like to be figuring out who you are as a mom, wife, business owner, and creative all at the same timeWhy motherhood was the catalyst for starting Nicole Chino Photography — and how it stayed the motivation throughoutThe first scary financial decision: charging real money and what that moment meant for how she saw herself as a professionalWhen and how to raise your prices — and why a packed schedule was the signal she neededGoing from 500 to 14K followers and a viral reel with 500K+ likes — what she thinks actually made it take offOvercoming the cringe of posting yourself online and why human connection beats a perfect feed every timeEntrepreneurship as a mindset game — why talent alone won't cut it and how "fake it till you make it" is actually legitThe loneliness of being your own boss — even when you have support, the buck always stops with youVirtual photography sessions — how Nicole is now working with clients across the country without leaving her home stateThe fear she hasn't faced yet: learning to say no and cap her bookings to protect her family timeWhat she's most excited about as her kids and her business grow up together ✨Connect with Nicole✨Instagram: @nicolechino_photographyWebsite: nicolechinophotography.comBook a session or send an inquiry through the lin

24 min
Apr 8, 2026Episode 29
57. The Friendship Filter: Who Actually Deserves a Seat at Your Table?

The people in your life are either building you up or breaking you down - and some of them are doing both.In this episode, I'm going deep on the friendships that fuel a creative career and the ones quietly costing you your energy, your confidence, and your forward momentum. We cover the Friendship Shelf Theory, the must-have friend archetypes for creatives, and the draining ones you might be holding onto out of loyalty; not love. Plus, there's a study about ambivalent friendships and what they do to your nervous system that completely stopped me in my tracks when I read it.If you've been feeling the stickiness in certain friendships lately this one is for you.TIMESTAMPS[00:00] — The hard truth about the people in your life[01:00] — Why friendship is especially complicated for creatives[02:00] — Alfred Adler's 3 universal life tasks (friendship is one of them)[03:30] — The Friendship Shelf Theory explained05:00] — The friends you NEED: the road dog, the one who gets it & the honest validator[11:30] — The fun one, the collaborator & the nervous system regulator[13:30] — The season of life match friend[14:30] — Friends to watch out for: the ambivalent friend & the science that backs it[16:30] — The gatekeeper, the one-upper & the energy vampire[20:30] — The real cost of the wrong friendships for creatives[21:30] — Normalizing friendship grief[22:30] — Three questions to sit with✨Connect with Maddie✨Explore Maddie’s Website | @messywithmaddie

53 min
Apr 1, 2026Episode 28
56. The Real Reason Your Routines Fall Apart (And What to Do Instead) with Ana Builds Habits

If you've ever started a new habit with the best intentions — only to watch it fall apart two weeks later — this episode is going to hit different. I sat down with Ana Cordera, the NYC-based creator and speaker behind Ana Builds Habits, and honestly? I felt like I was getting free therapy the entire time.Ana breaks down why most habits don't stick (spoiler: it has nothing to do with discipline or willpower) and what you actually need to do first, before you build a single routine. We get into identity, perfectionism, the messy middle of building a creator brand while working a 9-to-5, and what Coco Gauff writing "I will win the French Open" the night before she actually won has to do with your creative journey.— Introducing: Ana Cordera!— Why habits really fail (it's an identity problem, not a discipline problem)— The running story: how Ana learned to commit to a new identity— Growing up across multiple countries & how structure became both a superpower and a trap— Taking $10K worth of coaching — and the real shift that finally clicked— The tactical moves that helped Ana claim the identity of a creator— The mindset coach question that moves you out of overthinking and into action — Coco Gauff, the French Open, and reverse-engineering your success through identity— What Ana's week actually looks like: balancing a 9-to-5, wedding planning & a creator brand— How to build a household that actually works when two people have different work styles— The habit that surprised Ana the most: Alyssa Liu and the joy of the process— What people romanticize about being a content creator (and the real difference between influencers vs. creators)— Unfavorable habits Ana has had to break — including one that's still a work in progress— Why rest is Ana's hardest habit to build (especially living in NYC)— How to schedule a doom-scrolling session (yes, really — and it works)— What to do when confidence and doubt show up at the same time— Using a physical challenge to build confidence in a totally different area of your life— How Ana recharges creativity when she hits a wall— Rapid fire: the messiest thing about Ana— What Ana is still figuring out: learning to let go of the outcome— What Ana is most excited about right now (personally & professionally)✨Connect with Ana✨@anabuildshabits | Keep up with Ana on LinkedIn✨Connect with Maddie✨Explore Maddie’s Website | <a href="https://www.in

22 min
Mar 27, 2026Episode 27
55. How Core Beliefs Shape Every Decision You Make & How to Change Them

That little voice in your head telling you you're not smart enough, interesting enough, or capable enough of building the life you want? There's a name for it - and it's been running your life longer than you know.In this episode, I dive into the psychology of core beliefs: deeply ingrained, usually subconscious convictions we hold about ourselves that quietly shape every decision we make. I get really real about the core belief I uncovered that had been silently keeping me small, and I break down exactly how to find yours, challenge it, and replace it with something that actually serves you.TIMESTAMPS[00:00] — What is a core belief and why it matters[01:15] — CBT (Cognitive Behavioral Therapy)[04:00] — I uncover my own core beliefs (and get uncomfortable)[07:00] — Why I always collaborated instead of going solo creatively[09:00] — The New Year's Eve conversation that changed everything[13:00] — How strengths can mask and protect negative core beliefs[16:00] — Step 1: Take stock of your thoughts[18:00] — Step 2: Challenge the belief — demand the evidence[19:00] — Step 3: Replace it with a belief that actually serves you[20:30] — Backing up your new belief with your real strengths✨Connect with Maddie✨Explore Maddie’s Website | @messywithmaddie

36 min
Mar 20, 2026Episode 36
54. Stop Just Knowing Your Enneagram Type & Start Using It: Ashton Ober-Whitmeyer on Self-Awareness, Business Pivots & Getting Comfortable with the Messy Middle

Have you taken the Enneagram test, had your entire personality confirmed in three paragraphs, and then... kept scrolling? Same. But according to my guest this week, that's exactly where most people go wrong.I'm sitting down with Ashton (aka Enneagram Ashton) — public speaker, author, and Enneagram coach who built a thriving business helping people go from "cool, I'm a 4" to actually using that information to grow.In this episode, I pick her brain on what it actually means to use the Enneagram (hint: it's not about finding your perfect match), the myths I know we've all believed about entrepreneurship, the sting of getting ghosted on a business deal, the rollercoaster of money and consistency, and how she recharges her creativity.Whether you're Enneagram-obsessed like me or totally Enneagram-curious, I think this one's going to stick with you.✨Connect with Ashton✨Follow @enneagramashton on InstagramCheck out her website: enneagramashton.com for The Support Squad membership & The Enneagram Advantage program✨Connect with Maddie✨Explore Maddie’s Website | @messywithmaddie

7 min
Mar 11, 2026Episode 35
53. Are You Playing to WIN — or Just Trying Not to Lose?

Are you holding back in your career, your creative work, or your relationships — not because you don't want to win, but because you're secretly terrified of losing? Yeah. Same. In this quick but mighty mindset episode, I'm breaking down one of the most powerful moments from Andre Agassi's memoir Open — and how a single question he asked himself mid-match completely changed how I approach my voiceover auditions (and honestly, my whole life).If you've ever found yourself playing it safe, second-guessing your instincts, or trying to be what everyone else wants you to be — this one's for you, babe.Timestamps:[00:00] Welcome + what we're diving into today[00:30] Why Andre Agassi's memoir Open is an unexpected must-read for creatives[01:00] The match that changed everything — playing to WIN vs. playing not to LOSE[02:00] How this hit home: losing a 2.5-year voiceover client and the spiral that followed[03:30] The trap of trying to "do all the right things" — and why it makes your work go flat[05:00] What "getting messy again" actually looks like in practice[06:00] The mindset shift that got Maddie a callback AND an avail within ONE week[07:00] The question to ask yourself in every arena of your lifeResources Mentioned:Open by Andre Agassi✨Connect with Maddie✨Explore Maddie’s Website | @messywithmaddie

1 hr 1 min
Mar 4, 2026Episode 34
52. Ditch the Blueprint: Emma Palmer on Building Businesses, Embracing the Mess & Living on Your Own Terms

Emma Palmer is a lot of things — actor, producer, sustainable fashion co-founder, podcast host, mom — and she's living proof that there is no single right way to build a creative life.In this episode, we get real about the messy, nonlinear path of being a multi-hyphenate creative. From founding Lady Farmer (a sustainable lifestyle brand) with her mom, to stumbling into Bright Holler Productions after a conversation with her therapist, Emma's story is full of unexpected pivots, hard-won money lessons, and the kind of gut-trust that most of us are still learning.We also get into: nanny share childcare hacks for working moms, why tax codes actually favor entrepreneurs, the puzzle-piece theory of building a career, and why 'if you can do anything else, do that' is the most useless advice in entertainment.Timestamps[00:00] — Intro — Meet Emma Palmer: actor, producer, sustainable lifestyle brand co-founder[01:00] — Balancing a toddler, multiple businesses, and actually getting stuff done[02:30] — The nanny share genius — childcare hack for working creative moms[07:30] — How Lady Farmer was born out of a gap in sustainable fashion[09:30] — Launching via Kickstarter and the pivot they didn't see coming[13:00] — Hitting pause on the Good Dirt Podcast — and coming back stronger[14:00] — Bright Holler Productions: how a therapist, a church, and a Scout bag launched a company[19:00] — Redefining Rich — the book that changed how Emma thinks about self-employment[26:00] — Corporate vs. creative: owning your time vs. being owned by your time[31:00] — Why you're usually your own biggest obstacle (and how to get out of your way)[35:00] — Financial lessons for creatives: entrepreneur tax advantages no one tells you about[38:00] — Ebbs, flows & the puzzle-piece philosophy for navigating the messy middle[43:00] — From wanting to be a teacher to running two businesses: the evolution of a dream[51:00] — Mindset work, CBT, and learning to take that big swing[55:00] — Retiring the 'do anything else' advice — why creatives need to create their own work[57:00] — What's messy, what's exciting, and what Emma's still figuring outResources MentionedRedefining Rich by Shannon Hayes<a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/how-to-write-one-song-jeff-tweedy

19 min
Feb 25, 2026Episode 33
51. Do You Want the Goal or Just the Glory? A Real Talk on Sacrifice, VO Life & Knowing Your Season

Okay, real talk — have you ever gotten SO obsessed with an idea that you've basically already accepted your Grammy/Oscar/Olympic gold medal in your head... before you've done a single thing to actually make it happen? Yeah. Same. In this solo episode, I'm taking you back to a crystal-clear memory from the 2006 Winter Olympics and a lesson my mom dropped on me at 12 years old that still hits just as hard today: you're speed skating in your head. We're getting into shiny object syndrome, romanticizing the reward, and the one question you need to ask yourself before you blow up your whole life for a new dream: Am I willing to make the sacrifice — even when the reward isn't guaranteed? KEY TAKEAWAYSYou're watching someone's highlight reel — not the years of work behind it. Get honest about what's actually behind the curtain before you dive in.The sacrifice always comes before the reward, and the reward is never guaranteed. Are you willing to pay the price first?Shiny object syndrome isn't about being lazy — it's about falling in love with the idea of the thing instead of the reality of it.Giving yourself permission to put a goal down for this season is not failure. It's self-awareness.The question to ask yourself: Do I want the glory, or am I actually willing to do the work?✨Connect with Maddie✨Explore Maddie’s Website | @messywithmaddie

1 hr 3 min
Feb 18, 2026Episode 32
50. Screw the Plan B Mentality: Actor David Millstone on Pivoting, Producing, and Finding Your Self-States

What happens when everything falls apart and you finally commit to the thing you've been running from? In this episode, I sit down with David Millstone—actor, producer, and co-host of the Every Day Courage podcast—to talk about coming to acting at 42 after major life shifts, building a career on your own terms, and why the creative journey is never, ever done.If you've ever felt like you started too late, pivoted too many times, or worried that exploring multiple creative identities means you're not "serious" enough—this conversation is for you. We're talking about the long game, learning from every version of yourself, and why your job as an artist is to keep naming new mysteries.TIMESTAMPS:[00:00] - Intro: Meet David Millstone—actor, producer, creative explorer[01:00] - From theater kid to newspaper editor: The early pivot away from acting[03:00] - The life change that catapulted him back to acting at 42[04:00] - "What doesn't kill you makes you stranger"—rebuilding confidence[06:00] - Acting as exploration of self-states vs. catharsis[07:00] - The Body Keeps the Score and relational cycle analysis[08:00] - Why acting should be a conversation, not a monologue[15:00] - The pivot to producing: When acting alone wasn't enough[25:00] - What David learns from younger actors about the business[40:00] - Breaking free from the "actor as victim" mentality[45:00] - Building your career with agency and intention[57:00] - The "no plan B" myth and why it's bulls**t[1:00:00] - Where to find David + Season 2 of Every Day Courage✨RESOURCES✨· Get Messy: Authenticity and Transformation: Sasha Feldman’s Journey from Actor to Therapist· Get Messy: Building Confidence through Creativity with Michelle Simone Miller· Get Messy: Walking the Bridge of Life: Presence, Change, and Identity·The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk M.D.✨Connect with David✨Podcast: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/every-day-courage-real-stories-of-overcoming-fear/id1822379460" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"

1 hr 8 min
Feb 11, 2026Episode 31
49. How to Actually Make It as a Multi-Hyphenate Artist (Without Waiting for Permission) with Taylor Meskimen

What happens when you stop waiting for validation and start creating your own opportunities? In this episode, I sit down with my friend Taylor Meskimen—actress, audiobook narrator, musician, and all-around creative powerhouse—to talk about the messy, beautiful reality of being a multi-hyphenate artist.Taylor opens up about finally booking her first major TV role on 9-1-1 (after YEARS of auditioning), why she almost quit the traditional acting path, and how creating her own work has changed everything. We get real about the scarcity mindset that plagues creative industries, the golden nugget advice she learned from her dad (actor Jim Meskimen) about self-promotion, and why audiobook narration might be the best-kept secret in voice-over.If you've ever felt like you're doing everything right but still waiting for someone to give you permission to succeed—this conversation is for you. We're talking about playing to WIN instead of playing not to lose, getting out of your own way, and remembering why you fell in love with your craft in the first place.TIMESTAMPS:[00:00] - Intro: Meet Taylor Meskimen, multi-hyphenate artist[01:00] - Balancing multiple art forms: acting, voice-over, narration, music[03:00] - How voice-over became Taylor's financial foundation[06:00] - The curse and blessing of creating your own schedule[08:00] - Writing her first feature film with best friend Alexandra Du Parc[11:00] - Why writing made Taylor a better actor[14:00] - Advice from three generations of artists (including her grandmother from Happy Days!)[17:00] - The golden nugget: Why self-promotion isn't selfish[20:00] - Being your own biggest obstacle[22:00] - Booking 9-1-1[25:00] - The old DPN days: When auditions were collaborative and in-person[29:00] - Breaking into audiobooks: Taylor's insider tips[32:00] - Why the audiobook industry is uniquely welcoming[34:00] - Combating scarcity mindset in creative careers[37:00] - How COVID changed the audition landscape[42:00] - What it felt like filming 9-1-1 and proving herself on a major TV set[45:00] - Creating momentum through making your own projects[49:00] - Animation, video games, and different voice-over styles[51:00] - Making bold choices that stand out[58:00] - The role of luck (and naiveness) in booking jobs[1:00:00]</stro

1 hr 2 min
Jan 14, 2026Episode 30
48. Let's Get Real with Flannery Maney: Success, Boundaries & Why Your Twenties in Entertainment Were Probably a Mess (Same, Girl)

Hey there! Welcome back to Get Messy - This episode is a heart-to-heart with my best friend Flannery, a Hollywood writer and creative producer who's learned that the path to success doesn't look anything like what we were told.We're getting vulnerable about our early years in LA—when we were told to sacrifice everything or leave, to show up perfect, to never have a plan B. Spoiler alert: that advice nearly broke us.From meeting a French sculptor on our girls’ trip in Paris who never discusses work with friends, to navigating vocal damage from years of pushing too hard, this conversation explores what it really takes to build a sustainable creative life. We dive deep into the writing process, learning to take feedback without losing your voice, and why calling red flags "pink" cost us years of our twenties.Timestamps:[00:00 - 06:45] Identity Beyond Your Job Title[06:46 - 13:00] The Paris Lesson: How Americans Lost Themselves[13:00 - 22:00] The "All-In" Myth That Nearly Destroyed Us[22:00 - 31:00] Writing Real: Structure, Soul it's survival. This is especially crucial for empathetic, caretaking personalities.Just write the damn thing. You'll learn more from writing a messy first draft than from endless prep. Structure matters, but not more than getting started. You're going to rewrite anyway—even working writers do "a zillion million rewrites."Success without presence is empty. If you're living for someday (retirement, that big break, when things are perfect), you're missing your actual life. The pursuit of success IS your life—make sure you're spending it in alignment with your values.Radical honesty unlocks authentic connection. Flannery's marriage and closest friendships only happened when she stopped performing and started being brutally honest about what she wanted. The people who can't handle your truth aren't your people.<br

10 min
Dec 17, 2025Episode 29
47. You Got You: Building Self-Trust and Impact as a Creative

I recently did this gratitude practice that had me talking to my 22-year-old self—the girl in the thrift store crop top heading to auditions with way too much eyeliner and so much hope. And when I looked at everything I've accomplished since then, I realized something powerful: I'm still in the game. I'm still choosing myself every single day. In this episode, I'm getting vulnerable about what it means to build a legacy instead of just padding your resume, why "you always got you" has become my life philosophy, and how the most important relationship you'll ever work on is the one with yourself. I share my journey of expanding into grad school for therapy, investing more in my voiceover career, and navigating that weird space of feeling bold and directionless at the same time. I talk about impact over achievements, staying in the game even when you're unsure of the next play, and why feeling a little lost might actually mean you're honoring yourself and creating your own blueprint. If you're navigating the messy middle of building your dream life, questioning your next move, or wondering if you're "doing enough"—this one's for you. Consider this a love letter from me to you.Timestamps00:00 Gratitude Practice with My Younger Self01:00 The Thrift Store Shirt and LA Auditions02:00 Still in the Game: Reflecting on a Decade03:00 Expanding the Game: Grad School and Growth04:00 You Always Got You05:00 Living a Life of Impact06:00 Don't Wait for Coach—Storm the Field07:00 Building Your Legacy, Not Your Resume08:00 What My Grandpa's Eulogy Taught Me09:00 A Love Letter to YouKey TakeawaysThe relationship with yourself is the only one you can never escape—make it beautiful by always having your own back.Building a legacy is more important than building a resume; focus on the virtues of your eulogy, not just your achievements.Feeling directionless while being bold might mean you're honoring yourself and following your own blueprint instead of someone else's.Impact matters more than accolades—whether through storytelling, counseling, or your unique gifts, lead with how you want to affect others.Stay in the game, whatever game you choose—show up, be present, and throw yourself full body into what matters to you.✨RESOURCES✨· Activations App - Meditations and activations for personal growth· "The Mountain Is You" by Brianna Wiest - On self-sabotage and building the life you want</p

59 min
Dec 10, 2025Episode 28
46. Finding Success in Screenwriting: Kim Kressal on Craft, Community, and Perseverance

Welcome back to Get Messy! I got to sit down with the amazing Kim Kressal—she’s a writer, director, teacher and all-around creative powerhouse. We get real about what it’s actually like to chase your artistic dreams (spoiler: it’s messy, but so worth it). Kim opens up about the ups and downs, the rejections, and how she’s learned to find her own voice and build a community that lifts her up. If you’ve ever felt stuck or wondered if you’re “doing it right,” this one’s for you.00:00 Introducing: Kim Kressal!00:56 Kim's Journey from Theater to TV Writing02:13 Finding a New Path in TV Writing04:27 Winning Pitch Fest and Its Impact09:10 Moving to LA: A Leap of Faith11:42 Navigating the Highs and Lows of a Creative Career13:04 The Importance of Community and Support17:12 Balancing Craft and Business in Writing21:59 Producing Your Own Work: Challenges and Rewards25:02 Overcoming Financial and Emotional Obstacles29:41 Struggles with Valuing Creative Work30:20 The Emotional Journey of Writing32:11 Building and Nurturing Creative Communities38:07 Challenges in the Entertainment Industry44:51 Advice for Aspiring Writers51:39 The Concept of Idea Lab56:29 Embracing Messiness in CreativityKey TakeawaysEmbracing the messiness of the creative journey leads to growth and unexpected opportunities.Building resilience is essential—rejection is part of the process, not a reflection of your worth.Community and collaboration fuel creativity and help sustain long-term passion.Authenticity in your work attracts the right opportunities and audiences.Success is personal—define it for yourself and celebrate every step forward.✨RESOURCES✨· Check out Kim’s Upcoming Classes· Watch Jackrabbit Homestead· Entertainment Community Fund✨Connect with Kim Kressal✨Explore Kim’s Website | @kkressal | @tvwritingfortheactor✨Connect with Maddie✨Explore Maddie’s Website | <a href="https://www.instag

20 min
Dec 3, 2025Episode 27
45. Making Dreams a Reality: How Alex Weber Redefined Success and Achieved His Goals

In this episode of Get Messy, I chat with speaker, author, and former entertainer Alex Weber about his inspiring journey from acting and standup comedy to coaching, motivational speaking, and writing. Alex shares how following his deepest passions, embracing grit, and learning from each chapter of life have shaped his dynamic career. We discuss the importance of going “all in,” overcoming self-doubt, and redefining success to include both professional achievement and personal fulfillment. Alex also opens up about the messiness of ambition, the value of intentionality, and what’s next on his horizon.00:00 — Introduction holistic achievement includes nurturing relationships and personal well-being.Intentionality and focus help transform messy ambition into meaningful progress—prioritize what matters and let go of frantic energy.✨RESOURCES✨· Alex’s Book: Fail Proof· Listen to The Alex Weber Show✨Connect with Alex Weber✨Explore Alex’s Website | Follow @imalexweber on Instagram✨Connect with Maddie✨Explore Maddie’s Website | @maddiemcguirecoaching | @maddiemcg

11 min
Nov 26, 2025Episode 26
44. Walking the Bridge of Life: Presence, Change, and Identity

I've been doing a lot of soul searching lately, and in this solo episode, I open up about what it feels like to be in a season of transition. I share how walking the metaphorical bridge between my past and future selves has brought up feelings of presence, uncertainty, and growth. From embracing the fog of the unknown to finding clarity in small steps, I reflect on the messy, beautiful process of change. I talk about my journey into grad school for clinical mental health counseling, the bittersweetness of shifting client relationships, and the ongoing challenge of balancing structure with flexibility. Through it all, I’m learning to hold space for every version of myself—past, present, and future—and to trust that even when the path isn’t clear, moving forward with intention is enough.00:00 Soul Searching and Self-Reflection00:15 Walking the Bridge of Life01:13 Balancing Productivity and Peace02:45 Life Changes and New Beginnings03:58 Pursuing Passions and Career Shifts05:44 Navigating Uncertainty and Clarity08:08 Embracing Multiple Identities08:51 Raw and Unfiltered Self10:39 Conclusion and EncouragementKey TakeawaysEmbracing transitions means accepting both clarity and uncertainty—progress is made step by step, even when the destination is foggy.Presence is about noticing the journey, not just racing toward the future or dwelling on the past.Letting go of old identities and roles can be bittersweet, but it opens space for new growth and self-discovery.Structure and flexibility can coexist; sometimes, a “done list” is as important as a to-do list.Support systems—coaches, friends, and faith—help anchor us during times of change.✨RESOURCES✨· Actors Encouraged with Amy Austin✨Connect with Maddie✨Explore Maddie’s Website | @maddiemcguirecoaching | ⁠ @maddiemcguire4

47 min
Nov 19, 2025Episode 25
43. The Art of Persistence: Jim Meskimen on Acting, Creation, and The Role of Curiosity

In this episode of Get Messy, I chat with artist and actor Jim Meskimen about his dynamic creative career. Jim shares insights from his experiences as an illustrator, painter, cartoonist, voiceover artist, and actor. We discuss the importance of maintaining creativity, honing curiosity, and allowing flexibility in work. Additionally, we talk about Jim’s experience working on the show Landman, the release of season two, and the value of persistence as an artist and creative.00:00 Introducing: Jim Meskimen!02:04 Jim's Creative Journey03:24 Philosophy of Creativity05:08 Challenges and Problem-Solving in Creativity07:07 Trusting Instincts in Acting13:20 Balancing Craft and Business16:49 Navigating the Industry's Ups and Downs21:21 The Importance of Community in Acting25:09 Directing and Performance Insights26:17 Embracing Actor Creativity27:42 The Renaissance of Visual Arts29:55 Challenges in Developing a Movie34:29 Freedom in Self-Tapes and Auditions37:01 Returning to Landman Season 241:53 Advice for Aspiring Actors45:16 The Messy Side of Creativity46:11 Where to Find More of JimKey TakeawaysCreativity is about generating something from nothing—don't wait for the perfect moment or resources; start creating with what you have and trust your own energy and ideas.Engaging with a group or community can help overcome creative blocks and foster a sense of connection, making the creative process more collaborative and rewarding.Embracing problems and challenges as part of the creative journey is essential; each obstacle is an opportunity to learn and grow.Your first idea is often good enough to start—trust your instincts, and let your mind generate more ideas as you go.Curiosity and flexibility are key drivers of creativity; staying interested and open to new experiences fuels ongoing creative growth.✨RESOURCES✨· The Acting Center· Watch Landman on Paramount Plus· Watch The Big Door Prize on Apple TV· My Days: Happy and Otherwise by Marion Ross✨Connect with Jim Meskimen✨

53 min
Nov 12, 2025Episode 24
42. Building Confidence through Creativity with Michelle Simone Miller

In this episode of Get Messy, I sit down with actor, communication coach, and podcast host Michelle Simone Miller (Mentors on the Mic) to unpack the messy, beautiful realities of a creative career.Michelle opens up about overcoming imposter syndrome, launching her podcast, and learning to embrace uncertainty in the entertainment industry. She shares what it’s really like to balance acting, coaching, and entrepreneurship—and how self-compassion, curiosity, and joy have reshaped her definition of success.You’ll hear honest insights about navigating creative pivots, finding confidence through creation, and why giving yourself permission to pause is often the most productive thing you can do.If you’ve ever felt stuck or unsure of your path as a creative, this episode is your reminder that growth happens in the mess.Key Topics + Timestamps[00:04:00] Starting Mentors on the Mic & overcoming imposter syndrome[00:13:00] Finding confidence through creative control[00:21:00] Balancing multiple creative careers with self-compassion[00:38:00] Using your strengths for consistency and happiness[00:42:00] Redefining success and embracing joy intentionallyKey TakeawaysYou don’t need permission to create—start messy and refine later.True confidence grows from curiosity and consistency.Success is less about achievement and more about intention.Creative balance begins with self-compassion, not perfection.Every “pivot” teaches you something valuable about yourself.✨RESOURCES✨· Atomic Habits by James Clear· The Pursuit of Happiness: Free Course· The Happiness Advantage by Shawn Achor· Email [email protected] to schedule a one-on-one session with her!✨Connect with Michelle✨Mentors on t

44 min
Nov 5, 2025Episode 23
41. Unleashing Your Essence: Branding, Balance, and Mindset with Ashley Dulaney

Welcome back to Get Messy! This episode, I sit down with the wonderfully talented Ashley Dulaney! Ashley opens up about her journey from Mississippi to Los Angeles, sharing the highs and lows of her 15-year acting career. We discuss her mindset strategies, her unique approach to branding, and how she deals with industry shifts like COVID-19 and AI. Additionally, Ashley stresses the significance of human connection, self-trust, and staying true to your essence.— Introducing: Ashley Dulaney!— The Value of a BFA in Acting— Mindset and Mental Health in Acting— Astrology and Fun in the Acting Process— Balancing Craft and Business in Acting— Embracing Your Essence in Branding— The Power of Positive Mindset— Unexpected Breakthroughs— Manifestation and Letting Go— Passion in Careers and Relationships— Navigating Industry Changes— Balancing Career and Personal Life✨RESOURCES✨· Tilly Norwood AI Actress Debacle on Instagram✨Connect with Ashley Dulaney✨Follow @ashleydulaney on Instagram | Follow catsonlyashleydulaney on TikTok✨Connect with Maddie✨Schedule a Call with Maddie | Explore Maddie’s Website@maddiemcguirecoaching | @maddiemcguire4

54 min
Oct 29, 2025Episode 22
40. Building a Real Estate Brand with Heart: Social Media, Coaching & Growth with Perrin Duvall

In this episode, I sit down with the lovely Perrin Duvall to talk all about her journey becoming a successful realtor in Virginia Beach — and what it really takes to build a thriving, people-first business in today’s market. Perrin shares how she made the leap to launch her own team after seven and a half years in the industry, how real estate coaching and mentorship helped her level up, and why she’s so passionate about blending lifestyle and marketing on social media.We also get real about the messy side of entrepreneurship — from anxiety and boundaries with social media to learning when to slow down, delegate, and trust yourself through transitions.— Introducing: Perrin Duvall— Journey into Real Estate— Starting a New Team— Embracing Creativity and Social Media— The Importance of Coaching— Balancing Business and Personal Life— Navigating Client Relationships— Dealing with Real Estate Challenges— Maintaining Personal Values and Relationships— What’s Next for Perrin!✨Connect with Perrin Duvall✨Follow @perrinduvallrealestate on Instagram | Explore Perrin’s Website✨Connect with Maddie✨Schedule a Call with Maddie | Explore Maddie’s Website@maddiemcguirecoaching | @maddiemcguire4

1 hr 24 min
Oct 15, 2025Episode 21
39. Finding Your Voice Over Path | Olivia Sarafina Washington on Audition Strategies, Industry Challenges, and Building a VO Community

In this episode, I sit down with the wonderful Olivia Sarafina Washington. Olivia shares her incredible journey from studying musical theater to booking major campaigns for brands like SoFi and Dunkin'. She provides an in-depth look at the highs and lows of the voice over industry, recounting her unique entry and the pivotal moments that shaped her career.— Introducing: Olivia Sarafina Washington— Early Career and Nickelodeon Tour— Transition to Voice Acting— First Major Voice Acting Break— Navigating the Industry— Auditioning and Improvisation— Investing in a Professional Setup— The Rituals and Challenges of Voice Over Work— Navigating Isolation in the Voice Over Industry— The Business Side of Voice Over— Adapting to Industry Changes and Direct Marketing— Financial Lessons and Managing Ebbs and Flows— The Importance of Financial Planning and Investments— What’s Next for Olivia!✨RESOURCES✨·Listen to Get Messy: Tracy Lindley Talks VO Strategies, Marketing, and Family Balance· The Voicecaster✨Connect with Olivia Sarafina Washington✨@oliviasarafina on Instagram✨Connect with Maddie✨Schedule a Call with Maddie | Explore Maddie’s Website@maddiemcguirecoaching | @maddiemcguire4

10 min
Oct 8, 2025Episode 20
38. The Price of Bitterness & Why It's Time to Let Go

Hey there, welcome back to Get Messy! In this solo episode, we’re diving deep into the topic of bitterness, especially how it sneaks up on us in the entertainment world. I've seen how being bitter can slowly drain the life out of creative souls, and it usually comes from broken dreams and unmet expectations. I want to share my thoughts on how you can either push through with fresh hope or pivot to a new path that makes you happier. Remember, you have the power to change your story. Don't let bitterness win.— Bitterness in the Entertainment Industry— The Game of Life— Choices and Opportunities in Life— Confronting Bitterness and Choosing Your Path— What’s Next For You?✨Connect with Maddie✨Schedule a Call with Maddie | Explore Maddie’s Website@maddiemcguirecoaching | @maddiemcguire4

1 hr 18 min
Oct 1, 2025Episode 19
37. Navigating the Ebb and Flow of Creativity with Casey Ann Photo

Welcome back to Get Messy! In this episode, I chat with Casey from Casey Ann Photo. Casey is a wedding photographer based in Jacksonville, Florida, and the wedding photographer for my wedding!Casey shares the emotional connection she feels towards weddings, the excitement of capturing such significant moments, and how she developed her unique photography style. We discuss the complexities of navigating a creative career, including finding your identity, the importance of financial literacy, and the power of vulnerability in artistic expression.— Meet Casey!— Transitioning to Wedding Photography— The Pressure of Capturing Weddings— Developing a Unique Photography Style— Client Relationships and Communication— Balancing Art and Business— Learning the Business Side— Embracing Your Unique Space in the Industry— Navigating Wedding Expectations— Navigating the Business of Photography— Balancing Identity and Worth— Casey’s Poetry Book: About Being— The Power of Vulnerability in Art— Facing Fears and Celebrating Wins— The Journey of Self-Reflection and Growth— Embracing Change and New Beginnings✨Connect with Casey✨Explore Casey’s Website | @caseyannphoto_✨Connect with Maddie✨Schedule a Call with Maddie | Explore Maddie’s Website@maddiemcguirecoaching | @maddiemcguire4

1 hr 4 min
Sep 24, 2025Episode 18
36. Tracy Lindley Talks VO Strategies, Marketing, and Family Balance

Welcome back to Get Messy! In this episode I have the lovely Tracy Lindley on the podcast. Tracy shares her incredible journey into the voiceover industry, starting from being a stay-at-home mom in 2014 to building her voice over business and launching her two courses: The LinkedIn Edge and The VO Edge. We discuss the challenges she faced, the importance of marketing, and the evolution of the industry, including the impact of AI and the shift to home studios during COVID-19. She also shares valuable insights about managing a family while running a business, her marriage of 21 years, and the financial lessons she instills in her kids.— Introducing: Tracy Lindley— The Pivot During COVID— Direct Marketing and Self-Promotion— Building a Career in a Regional Market— Union vs Non-Union Work— Embracing Messiness in the Age of AI— Balancing Family and Career— The Importance of Supportive Relationships— The Unpredictability of the Voiceover Industry— What’s Next for Tracy!✨RESOURCES✨· NAVA: National Association of Voice Actors· Get in touch with Tim Friedlander✨Connect with Tracy Lindley✨Explore Tracy’s Website | Connect with Tracy on LinkedIn Follow @tracylindleyvo on Instagram✨Connect with Maddie✨Schedule a Call with Maddie | Explore Maddie’s Website@maddiemcguirecoaching | @maddiemcguire4

55 min
Sep 17, 2025Episode 17
35. Designing Freedom: Kadie Smith's Journey from Freelance to Founding Drop Cap Design

Welcome back to Get Messy! In this episode, I chat with Kadie Smith, the incredible founder of Drop Cap Design. We discuss the shifts Kadie has made in her business, the challenges of delegation, and the importance of financial literacy as an entrepreneur. Kadie also shares her personal growth experiences, strategies for balancing entrepreneurship, and maintaining adaptability in life and business. Kadie's story is a true testament to creativity, resilience, and the power of believing in yourself.— Introducing: Kadie Smith— Challenges of Delegating and Building a Team— The Importance of Financial Literacy in Business— Embracing Flexibility and Adaptability— The Value of Coaching— Defining Success: Then and Now— Balancing Entrepreneurship and Personal Life— Facing Fears and Embracing Growth— What’s Next for Kadie!✨Connect with Kadie Smith✨@dropcapdesign | Explore Kadie’s Website | Sign up for the Sunday Edition✨Connect with Maddie✨Schedule a Call with Maddie | Explore Maddie’s Website@maddiemcguirecoaching | @maddiemcguire4

1 hr 26 min
Sep 10, 2025Episode 16
34. Zigzagging Through Life: Passion, Rejection, and Resilience with Bestselling Author Jamie Varon

Welcome back to Get Messy! In this episode, I chat with Jamie Varon, a multi-passionate novelist, and best-selling author. Jamie emphasizes the importance of embracing shifts in identity and how these transitions have influenced her creative work. Currently focused on her role as a novelist, Jamie discusses her sophomore novel, 'Charlie Quinn, Let's Go,' her approach to writing, and the importance of self-belief. Throughout the episode, Jamie reflects on the challenges and triumphs of her career, the significance of resilience, and her focus on mindset. From working on viral articles to balancing various creative endeavors, Jamie's story is an inspiring testament to perseverance and the power of following one's passion.— Jamie's Multifaceted Career— Embracing Change and Letting Go— Navigating Identity Shifts— The Journey of Writing and Creativity— Overcoming Personal Rejection— The Writing Process and Personal Growth— Balancing Fiction and Nonfiction— The Journey of Self-Validation— The 10-Year Milestone— Navigating Imposter Syndrome— The Importance of Self-Belief— The Role of Mindset in Success— The Power of Passion and Fun— What’s Next for Jaime!✨RESOURCES✨· Main Character Energy by Jamie Varon· Live with Intention Course·Shatterboxx✨Connect with Guest✨Sign Up for Jaime’s Newsletter | Pre-order Charlie Quinn Let’s GoFollow @jamievaron on Instagram | Explore Jamie’s Website✨Connect with Maddie✨Schedule a Call with Maddie | Explore Maddie’s Website<a href="https://www.instagram.com/maddiemcguirecoaching/" rel="ugc noopene

1 hr 2 min
Aug 27, 2025Episode 15
33. Building a Personal Brand and Overcoming Industry Hurdles with Actor and Photographer Beth Hawkes

Welcome back to Get Messy! In this episode, we dive into the multifaceted career of Beth Hawkes, the owner and founder of Mariposa Pictures, a Los Angeles-based photography business specializing in actor portraits, events, and branding photos. Beth shares her journey from seeking unique headshots as an actor to filling a market gap during the pandemic by starting her own business.We discuss her creative processes, the challenges of balancing acting and entrepreneurship, and the transformative power of photography. Beth opens up about the personal and professional pivots that have shaped her career, her philosophy on navigating industry ebbs and flows, and the importance of self-belief and perseverance in the creative world.— Introducing: Beth Hawkes— Beth’s Photography Business: Mariposa Pictures— Capturing Authenticity in Photo— Client Preparation and Process— Balancing Acting and Photography— Advice for Aspiring Creatives— The Struggle for Permission— Navigating Career Pivots— Embracing New Challenges— The Power of Self-Belief— The Reality of Success— Reflecting on the Journey— What’s Next for Beth!✨RESOURCES✨·Mommywood Podcast✨Connect with Beth Hawkes✨@mariposa.pictures | Mariposa Pictures Website✨Connect with Maddie✨Schedule a Call with Maddie | Explore Maddie’s Website @maddiemcguirecoaching | @maddiemcguire4

52 min
Aug 20, 2025Episode 14
32. Overcoming Overwhelm with Jennifer Hanway: Botox, Instagram Face, and the Hype Around Weighted Vests

On this episode of the Get Messy podcast, I had an absolute blast chatting with the amazing Jennifer Hanway, a board-certified holistic nutritionist specializing in metabolic health and beauty nutrition.We dive into some major hot topics, such as the impacts of drinking, Botox, and the importance of foundational health habits. Whether you're feeling stuck in your health journey or just looking for some solid advice, this episode is packed with wisdom and actionable tips.— Introducing: Jennifer Hanway— Foundations of Health and Wellness— Balancing Discipline and Flexibility— Navigating Alcohol and Social Norms— All About Botox— The Instagram Face Phenomenon— Are Weighted Vests Worth the Hype?— The Importance of Strength Training & Personal Fitness— Taking Risks and Overcoming Fears— What’s Next for Jennifer!✨Connect with Jennifer Hanway✨Explore Jennifer’s Website | @jenniferhanwayListen to The Science of Stunning Podcast✨Connect with Maddie✨Schedule a Call with Maddie | Explore Maddie’s Website @maddiemcguirecoaching | @maddiemcguire4

12 min
Aug 13, 2025Episode 13
31. From Chaos to Clarity: Riding the Waves of Uncertainty

Welcome back to the Get Messy podcast! In this episode, I chat all about dealing with the uncertainty that life throws at us. I’ll share some of my own crazy experiences in the entertainment industry, some big personal changes, including my decision to go back to school for a master's in psychology. It's all about finding a balance, embracing the chaos, and keeping the faith that things will work out.— Exploring Sahil Bloom's Insights— Embracing Uncertainty in Life— Pursuing Stability and Passion— Balancing Productivity and Joy— Faith and Resilience✨RESOURCES✨· The Five Types of Wealth - Sahil Bloom· Sahil Bloom✨Connect with Maddie✨Schedule a Call with Maddie | Explore Maddie’s Website@maddiemcguirecoaching | @maddiemcguire4

1 hr 1 min
Aug 6, 2025Episode 12
30. The Creative Path Forward: Conversations with Kate Bone

On this episode of Get Messy, I chat with multi-disciplinary artist Kate Bone. Kate shares her path as an actor, singer, songwriter, and founder of Wonder Well Creative, blending creative and healing arts. We dive into her transformative experiences, including an early career breakdown, discovering yoga, and becoming a new mom, which has given her more clarity and efficiency.We also chat about the impact of COVID-19 on her career, audition highs and lows, and the supportive community she’s building through Wonder Well. This episode is a down-to-earth dive into juggling personal life, artistic integrity, and professional commitments.— Introducing Kate Bone: Multihyphenate Artist— Founding Wonder Well Creative— Reflecting on a 25-Year Acting Career— Reconnecting Through The Artist's Way— Motherhood and Creative Identity— Navigating the Changing Acting Industry— Creative Contracts and Personal Commitments— Choosing Relationships Over Career— The Power of Advocacy— Challenges of Relocating— Building Community and Creativity✨RESOURCES✨· The Artist’s Way· Spirit Babies· Just Kids· Purple Hearts on Netflix· The Nowhere Inn· Sign up for The Artist’s Way Creative Circle✨Connect with Kate Bone✨Wonder Well Creative | (the well) Membership @wonderwell.creative | @kate___bone

1 hr 13 min
Jul 30, 2025Episode 11
29. Building Resilience: Embracing Change in Your Personal and Professional Life with Laura C.

In this episode of the Get Messy Podcast, I sit down with Laura C., a career coach dedicated to helping people find fulfillment in their work and life. We dive into Laura's journey from leaving a corporate job she despised to following her passion and becoming a career coach.We discuss the significance of community, managing fear and uncertainty, and the differences between the coaching practice and the business side of coaching. Laura shares personal stories about her morning routines, overcoming analysis paralysis, and making significant life changes such as moving across the country. Together, we explore the definition of success, the importance of celebrating wins, and what inspires us to keep going.— Laura's Career Journey— Coaching and Personal Development— Navigating Career and Life Changes— The Challenges of Building a Business— The Importance of Community and Support— Mindset Shifts and Personal Growth— Embracing Change and Making Decisions— The Power of Coaching and Therapy— Hope, Possibility, and Taking Action— Defining Success and Celebrating Wins— Fear, Family, and Motivation✨RESOURCES✨· The Courage to Be Disliked· Untamed· Actors Encouraged✨Connect with Laura✨Explore Laura’s Website | Career LinkedIn GroupYour Career, Your Way Podcast | @laurathecareercoach_✨Connect with Maddie✨Schedule a Call with Maddie | Explore Maddie’s Website @maddiemcguirecoaching | <a href="https:

1 hr 9 min
Jul 23, 2025Episode 10
28. Body, Beauty, and Authenticity with Megan Gill

On this episode of Get Messy, I am excited to welcome back the wonderful Megan Gill to the podcast! We discuss all things body image, beauty standards, and how society impacts our self-view.Additionally, we talk about Megan’s short film, ‘A Broadway Body’, which came to Megan during the pandemic, as she was reflecting on her own relationship with her body and where her body image issues stemmed from. Now, she’s keeping the conversation going through her podcast and Substack, tackling harmful beauty standards and promoting self-love.We also dive into Megan's personal journey, chat about finding your own style, and hear her plans for taking these important talks into schools and businesses. Tune in for an empowering, down-to-earth conversation that’s all about embracing who you are.— Megan's Journey and Short Film Broadway Body— Body Image and Industry Challenges— Shifts in Hollywood and Body Advocacy— Beauty Standards and Societal Impact— Fashion, Style, and Self-Expression— Struggling with Personal Style— Discovering Personal Style Labels— Comfort vs. Style— Exploring Fashion Choices— Fashion Freedom and Self-Expression— Starting the Substack Journey— What’s Next!✨RESOURCES✨· Robert Davanzo Studio· Crash Acting· Still in 2025 being “traditionally pretty” is THE most important thing about a woman.· Listen to Get Messy: Megan Gill on Body Challenges, Major Break-Up Shake-Ups, and Embracing Her Advocate Era✨Connect with Megan Gill✨Explore Megan’s Website | Watch A Broadway Body | @themegangill | A Broadway Body: The Podcast | A Broadway Body: Substack✨Connect with Maddie✨<a href="https://maddiemcguirecoaching.as.me/schedule/127ff2ca?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAadEHR26SRPQc

57 min
Jul 16, 2025Episode 9
27. Copy, Conviction, and Creativity: Kaitlyn Parker on Embracing Life's Ebbs and Flows

Welcome back to Get Messy! In this episode I chat with Kaitlyn Parker; a copywriter, brand strategist, and the founder of Copy Uncorked. Kaitlyn shares insights into balancing client services with educational offerings, the importance of specific details in writing, and ways to infuse personality into copy.We also discuss the challenges of entrepreneurship, the impact of motherhood on her career, and the significance of taking decisive actions. Additionally, we touch on the topic of maintaining creative integrity and the importance of finding joy in both professional and personal life.— Introducing: Kaitlyn Parker!— Kaitlyn's Background and Career Journey— Balancing Client Work and Education— Infusing Personality into Copywriting— Motherhood and Personal Growth— Navigating Entrepreneurship's Highs and Lows— Scaling Down and Embracing Change— The Importance of Systems and Processes— Making Big Investments in Your Business— The Art of Method Acting in Copywriting— The Role of a Copywriter in Clarifying Client Vision— The Importance of Savoring Life's Moments— Human Design and Taking Uncomfortable Actions— Fears and Reflections on Life Choices— Embracing Life's Richness + Future Plans✨RESOURCES✨· The Art of Messy Living: Embracing Imperfection with Teresa Stastny· @becomingobsessedpod· Listen to Becoming Obsessed with FOLLOWING THE NUDGE (even when you’re overthinking it)✨Connect with Kaitlyn Parker✨Explore Kaitlyn’s Website | Substack | @copyuncorked✨Connect with Maddie✨Schedule a Call with Maddie | Explore Maddie’s Website @

46 min
Jul 9, 2025Episode 8
26. Beyond the Gym: Tiffany Ragozzino on Health, Habits, and Empowerment

Welcome back to Get Messy! In this episode, I'm super excited to chat with Tiffany Ragozzino, a high school PE and health teacher from West Hollywood and the force behind 'The Pretty Little Lifters.'Tiffany shares her journey from being an elementary school teacher to inspiring women and teens to embrace strength training. We dive into the challenges women face as their bodies change, the benefits of strength training, and her mission to teach what we all wish we'd learned in PE.Tiffany also talks about dealing with anxiety, debunking wellness myths, and practical tips for feeling confident at the gym. Plus, we get into her passion for empowering women with fitness and what's next on her horizon, including some exciting workshops and presentations.— Introducing: Tiffany Ragozzino— Tiffany's Journey: From Elementary Teacher to Fitness Advocate— Embracing Body Changes and Building Strength— The Importance of Strength Training in Your Thirties— Defining Health and Longevity— Making Gyms Less Intimidating— Teaching Teens and Women Essential Fitness Skills— Wellness Products: What’s Worth the Splurge?— Navigating Health and Supplements— Empowering Women Through Fitness— Starting and Growing a Business— Balancing Life and Business— Personal Growth and Reflection— Facing Fears and Future Plans✨Connect with Tiffany Ragozzino✨The Pretty Little Lifters Website | @prettylittlelifters✨Connect with Maddie✨Schedule a Call with Maddie | Explore Maddie’s Website @maddiemcguirecoaching | @maddiemcguire4

48 min
Jul 2, 2025Episode 20
25. Unpacking Worthiness vs. Confidence in Creative Pursuits

We dive deep into the concept of worthiness, inspired by a quote from Jamie Kern Lima, “Your worthiness is your ceiling.” We explore how one's sense of worthiness can act as a ceiling, limiting potential and success. We touch on the difference between confidence and worthiness, the psychological barriers faced by actors and creatives, and the importance of community and self-belief.The episode aims to shed light on the mental and emotional struggles in the creative industry and offers tools for fostering a healthier relationship with oneself.–Confidence vs. Worthiness–Being the Perpetual Student–Overcoming Comparison and Scarcity Mindset–Overcoming Self-Doubt–Finding Support and Guidance–Celebrating Small Wins–The Power of Self-Validation–Visualizing Future SuccessHang out with Maddie!⁠Maddie’s IG⁠⁠Maddie’s Coaching IG⁠⁠Maddie’s Website ⁠Hang out with Bailey! Bailey’s IGDon’t forget to like, subscribe, and review the podcast!

1 hr 2 min
Jun 25, 2025Episode 7
24. The Art of Messy Living: Embracing Imperfection with Teresa Stastny

In this episode, I chat with the incredible Teresa Stastny, a multi-faceted entrepreneur and creator. We dive into Teresa's journey through entrepreneurship, highlighting her path from studying abroad to launching multiple businesses.Teresa shares poignant insights on the importance of balancing ambition with contentment, emphasizing how she navigates personal and professional pressures. Additionally, Teresa opens up about her strategies for emotional regulation, the power of quitting when necessary, and the necessity of trusting one's intuition.We also explore the emotional aspects of financial literacy and the value of creating spaces where women can feel empowered to discuss and manage money. This is an inspiring episode with practical takeaways for anyone looking to live more authentically!— Introducing Teresa Stastny— Teresa’s Journey to Entrepreneurship— The Philosophy of Growth and Self-Discovery— Navigating Personal and Professional Pressures— The Importance of Regulating the Nervous System— Balancing Ambition and Contentment— Exploring Purpose and Impact— The Pressure of Perfectionism— Art Therapy and Emotional Freedom— Validation and Success in Creative Fields— The Importance of Creating Before Marketing— Balancing Action and Rest— Trusting Intuition and Knowing When to Quit— Money and Dreams— Embracing Messiness and Looking Forward✨RESOURCES✨· The Creative Act by Rick Rubin· Her First $100K· Financial Feminist Overcome the Patriarchy's Bullsh*t to Master Your Money and Build a Life You Love Tori Dunlap· From Rocket Science to Wealth Empowerment: Stephanie Xenos on Financial Freedom for Women· Alyssa Schneider on Internal Operations, Helping Women Get Wealthy, and Using Her Voice· Listen to Becoming Obsessed | At the Corner of Am

15 min
Jun 11, 2025Episode 6
23. Reaching the Top of the Mountain: Redefining What Success Looks Like for You

Welcome back to Get Messy! Join me on my first-ever solo episode, where I dive into the intimidating yet transformative journey of navigating the metaphorical mountain of success.I’ll reflect on my career as a voiceover artist and actor, the constant challenges, the idea of never truly reaching the top, and the importance of enjoying the climb. I'll dive into feelings of anxiety linked to freedom, the need for re-evaluation, and the importance of giving myself permission to take risks and make bold decisions.No matter where you are on your path, let this be your sign for you to embrace the uncertainties of your respective journeys and continuously strive for self-discovery, motivation, and growth.— The Metaphorical Mountain of Success— Voiceover Career Challenges— Navigating the Chaos— Reaching Peaks and Seeking New Heights— Embracing Uncertainty and Anxiety— The Mountain Is You— Writing Your Own Permission Slip✨RESOURCES✨· Imprint App· The Mountain is You: Transforming Self-Sabotage Into Self-Mastery by Brianna Wiest✨Connect with Maddie✨Schedule a Call with Maddie | Explore Maddie’s Website @maddiemcguirecoaching | @maddiemcguire4

44 min
Jun 4, 2025Episode 23
22. Finding Freedom in Transition: Coach Greg Gilmore on Embracing Change and Overcoming Limitations

On this episode of Get Messy, we hang out with Greg Gilmore (Certified Coach + Author), about his life journey from a successful career in healthcare to becoming a certified coach and discovering his true impact of supporting others. They discuss pivotal moments in Greg's life, overcoming limiting beliefs, dealing with impostor syndrome, and the importance of continuous personal growth. The conversation touches upon concepts from A Course in Miracles, the idea of 'change for good,' and the expansive power of gratitude and self-love.– Greg's Background and Inception as a Coach– Facing Limiting Beliefs and Overcoming Impostor Syndrome–Overcoming Addiction and Personal Transformation –The Power of Daily Practices and Affirmations– Navigating Relationships and Teaching by Demonstration– Understanding Beliefs and Utilizing HypnosisConnect with GregGreg’s IGGreg’s WebsiteOrder Greg’s BookHang out with Maddie!⁠Maddie’s IG⁠⁠Maddie’s Coaching IG⁠⁠Maddie’s Website ⁠Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and review the podcast!

57 min
May 28, 2025Episode 4
21. Acting, Real Estate and Everything In Between with Lauren Pepin

In this episode, I chat with the lovely Lauren Pepin, a seasoned actress and thriving real estate broker in New York City.We discuss Lauren's transition from pursuing acting full-time to also building a successful real estate business, focusing on her path to achieving her goals and the importance of resilience. Lauren elaborates on the challenges of managing dual careers, from time management and setting boundaries to navigating the unique financial landscapes of her entertainment clients.Additionally, we also touch on the importance of community involvement and the excitement of future opportunities.— Introducing Lauren Pepin!— Balancing Dual Careers: Acting and Real Estate— Managing Time and Setting Boundaries— Working with Clients in the Entertainment Industry— Navigating Financial Challenges in Real Estate— Dealing with Building Assessments and Fees— Client Relationships and Trust— Lessons Learned and Career Advice— Struggles and Coping Mechanisms— Support Systems and Mindset— Diversification in Business— Community Involvement— AI & Social Media— Future Goals and Plans✨Connect with Lauren Pepin✨@laurenpepin22 | [email protected]’s Real Estate Website | Lauren’s Acting Website✨Connect with Maddie✨Schedule a Call with Maddie | Explore Maddie’s Website @maddiemcguirecoaching | @maddiemcguire4

59 min
May 21, 2025Episode 3
20. Authenticity and Transformation: Sasha Feldman’s Journey from Actor to Therapist

In this episode, we chat with my good friend Sasha Feldman, a former actor turned associate marriage and family therapist.We discuss Sasha's shift from a career in acting to becoming a therapist, focusing on his journey of self-discovery and pursuit of authenticity. Sasha elaborates on the challenges of defining confidence, dealing with the highs and lows of the acting industry, and the fears and anxieties that come with significant career changes.Additionally, we also touch on the importance of redefining success, the impact of ego, and the value of being present in one's life.— Introducing: Sasha Feldman— Sasha's Journey to Authenticity— Exploring Confidence and Self-Trust— Transition from Acting to Therapy— Challenges and Realizations in Acting— Redefining Success and Ego— Reflecting on Career Milestones— The Pursuit of Fame and Creativity— Finding Meaning and Presence— Therapy and Personal Growth— Balancing Structure and Creativity✨RESOURCES✨· The Hero’s Journey by Joseph Campbell· The Substance· The Last Showgirl· Ego is the Enemy by Ryan Holiday✨Connect with Sasha Feldman✨Work with Sasha!✨Connect with Maddie✨Schedule a Call with Maddie | Explore Maddie’s Website @maddiemcguirecoaching | @maddiemcguire4

1 hr 3 min
May 14, 2025Episode 2
19. Navigating New Paths: Life, Art, and Resilience with Julia Yorks

Welcome back to Get Messy! We chat with the incredible Julia Yorks (professional screenwriter, actress, and content creator) and dive into her journey of personal and professional reinvention, and the launch of her screenwriting coaching business.Julia talks about starting over in her thirties, the importance of detaching self-worth from career success, and the significance of embracing duality. We also cover topics around the challenges of engaging with different social media platforms, balancing personal growth with professional aspirations, and the power of trusting the process in life and business.— Introducing Julia Yorks: Screenwriter, Actress & Content Creator— Social Media and Visibility— Starting Over in Your Thirties— Personal Growth and Letting Go— Balancing Work and Personal Life— Creative Process and Productivity— Navigating the Entertainment Industry— Balancing Art and Business in Screenwriting— The Reality of Success in the Entertainment Industry— The Importance of Community and Mentorship— Redefining Success and Embracing Change✨Connect with Julia Yorks✨Work with Julia | @juliayorks✨Connect with Maddie✨Schedule a Call with Maddie | Explore Maddie’s Website @maddiemcguirecoaching | @maddiemcguire4

54 min
May 7, 2025Episode 1
18. From Rocket Science to Wealth Empowerment: Stephanie Xenos on Financial Freedom for Women

Welcome back to Get Messy! We hang out with the incredible Stephanie Xenos (former rocket scientist turned women's wealth expert) and talk all about her mission to help women achieve financial independence and build lasting wealth.Stephanie talks about her passion for supporting women, handling financial conversations in partnerships, and the importance of accessing reliable financial education. We also cover topics around personal growth, balancing masculine and feminine energies, and the significance of letting go and trusting the process in life and business.— Introducing Stephanie Xenos: From Rocket Scientist to Wealth Expert— Personal Journey: Overcoming Financial Struggles— Empowering Women: The Importance of Financial Independence— Navigating Financial Challenges and Resistance— The Power of Community and Mentorship— Making Big Life Decisions: Moving and Finances— The Challenges of Starting a Business— Healing and Balancing Masculine and Feminine Energies— Investing and Market Opportunities— Navigating Finances in Partnerships— Personal Growth and Ambitions✨RESOURCES✨· Ignite Strategy Session· Monarch Money· To Be Magnetic✨Connect with Stephanie Xenos✨Explore Stephanie’s Website | @stephanie_xenos✨Connect with Maddie✨Schedule a Call with Maddie | Explore Maddie’s Website @maddiemcguirecoaching | @maddiemcguire4

53 min
Dec 11, 2024Episode 18
17. Kelsey Boze on Uncovering Her Passions, Powerful Routines, and the Mess of Perfectionism

On this episode of Get Messy, we hang out with Kelsey Boze (Actress and Certified Life Coach), how getting her degree in theater led her to discover her passion for TV and film, the on-set experience that solidified her wanting to pursue a career as an actor, and life-changing bathroom run-ins with Emma Watson. She discusses her willingness to keep going and how she’s pivoted over the years and to different cities, how it’s harder to use the coaching tools you have on yourself, and how every actor hates the question “what have you done?” We dive into the grief of not being where you want in your career, the “gremlin” coaching technique, and why perfectionism just plain ol’ sucks. — Pursuing her career for half of her life and how her tactics have shifted— Her therapist's metaphor for understanding self-worth — How success never comes in the form of a material item — The power of defining “your own lane” — The positive effects of her morning routine and wind-down routine — The major roadblock of perfectionism Connect with KelseyKelsey’s IGKelsey’s IMDBKelsey’s BioKelsey Boze is a union actress and certified coach who has lived in LA and NYC. She earned her bachelor’s degree in musical theatre from Point Park University in Pittsburgh and her coaching certification from The Life Purpose Institute in San Diego. She’s a struggling perfectionist, a cat mom, and a fellow redhead who isn’t afraid to get messy.Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and review the podcast! Hang out with Maddie!Maddie’s IGMaddie’s Coaching IGMaddie’s Website Hang out with Bailey! Bailey’s IG

50 min
Dec 4, 2024Episode 17
16. Kalee Murrin on Business Burnout, Client Boundaries, and How New Levels of Success Bring New Devils

Kalee Murrin (Entrepreneur), owns Sonder Social, a boutique marketing agency helping bold business owners with content creation, strategy, and consulting. Kalee and I were in a business group program a few years back and I’ve been a fan ever since. Getting let go from her corporate marketing job during Covid forced her to dive into starting her business much earlier than anticipated. She’s faced fast-paced growth, burnout, restructuring her biz, needing to establish iron-clad boundaries, and making sure she never feels like an “employee” to her clients. Oh and she’s about to move to Paris where she literally manifested her dream apartment… we definitely think working out of a cute Parisian corner cafe beats a cubicle any day. — How she went from thinking she was climbing the corporate ladder to becoming a CEO— Leaning into her client's strengths and emphasizing what feels good for them — Needing to establish that she’s a business owner rather than a “content creator” — Knowing it would be harder sitting in a cubicle the rest of her life vs. owning her business— How realigning with herself helped her realign her business and its direction — Social media is one component of many that a business owner needs to think about— She’s learned that done is better than perfect Resources Mentioned in the Episode Business Coach: Ashli Pollard of Team AP Consulting Mindset Coach: Amy McNabb of Actors Encouraged + Ambition EncouragedPodcast Production Company: Fast Forward ProductionsConnect with KaleeSonder Social WebsiteSonder Social IGKalee on ThreadsKalee’s BioKalee Murrin is the founder of Sonder Social, a boutique marketing agency whose passion is helping women entrepreneurs and women-led brands share their stories with the world. She has an MBA in marketing and brings 9 years of industry experience to the table, working with her team to offer full-scope marketing management and strategic consulting across social media, blogging, and email marketing to clients across various industries.<em

54 min
Nov 27, 2024Episode 1
15. Isabella Jean Taylor on Being Selfish with Stand-Up, Having an Existential Crisis, and Surrendering

Isabella Jean Taylor (Stand-Up Comedian, Actress, Fit Model) opens up how she’s learning how to be “selfish” in stand-up and own the stage, how you never “clock out” as an actor and the power of producing your own shows. Isabella discusses how treacherous the world of college theater can be, and the realities of managing the expectations of who you thought you were going to be when you were 14, and the current reality of who you are. (Cue existential crisis). We question if she got “stuck” in LA, if men can be people pleasers, and are stand-up topics like her grandmother’s dementia or her sister's death are too much. — The masochism of stand-up — Relationships going south make for great comedy — Being real on if you still align with your “past dreams” — Her asshole dog getting them booked on Cesar Milan’s show— Does success come from luck, skill, timing, or connections— How “I Got This” energy can lead to success — Surrendering to things not being the way “you want them to be” so you can make room for what’s meant for you Resources Mentioned in This Episode:Pretty Funny Women Groundling’s UCBAmy McNabb - Actor’s Encouraged (Website) + Actor’s Encouraged (Instagram)Podcast Production Company - Fast Forward Productions Sam Valentine - One Broke Actress Connect with IsabellaIsabella’s IGIsabella’s IMDBIsabella’s BioI am a dishwater European from Iowa with a BFA in Musical Theatre from Drake University.I have trained at Groundlings, Second City and study at Lesly Kahn. I did stand up with Pretty Funny Women and made a lot of great connections. I have a background in improv which I performed for over 10 years and was on a house sketch team for a year. I play drums, piano, ride horses and I sing. I've been working with an Instagram agency and created content for Prose, JustFab, Lively, Maely's, Parade, SNOW, and Cerebral. Commercially, I've re