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Endgame with Gita Wirjawan

Endgame Podcast·289 episodes

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Join entrepreneur, educator, and proud Indonesian, Gita Wirjawan in exploring the ways forward for our society through stories and experiences by thought leaders, trailblazers, and opinion-makers from Indonesia and the region.

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49 min
May 6, 2026Episode 267
Randy Goebel: Why the Global South Can Still Lead on AI

AI today is powered by massive models, massive energy, and massive capital concentration. But what if this trajectory is essentially unsustainable? And what if the Global South could redefine the future of AI?Randy Goebel, an AI scientist and advocate of open science, explores the sustainability crisis behind large language models and the costly cycles that define AI’s history. He also emphasizes that for Southeast Asia and the Global South, the future of AI depends not on hardware, but on building and sustaining intellectual capital.----------------------About the Guest: Randy Goebel is a computer scientist and professor of computing science in the Department of Computing Science, University of Alberta, Canada. He's known for his work in artificial intelligence (AI), machine learning, logic-based reasoning, and explainable AI (XAI). Goebel also helped found the Alberta Machine Intelligence Institute (AMII) and has been deeply involved in AI research and teaching.#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #RandyGoebel------------------------You might also like:https://youtu.be/xUdCSq4W1Kk?si=mVh92mCGznE4GEmphttps://youtu.be/WNcW2jHGrtk?si=dVprUeByatSeOfFhhttps://youtu.be/m8h7zojuM5Q?si=7qx3ICQ6Z0oYs11Z

1 hr 28 min
May 6, 2026Episode 266
Tom Ginsburg: Why Constitutional Monarchy Might Be the Best Form of Government

Get your copy of Gita Wirjawan’s book, “What It Takes: Southeast Asia”, NOW: https://books.endgame.id/ Also available on Amazon: https://sgpp.me/amazon/ Leave your review here: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/241922036-what-it-takes---------------Democracy holds elections. But what makes them meaningful? In an era of polarization, algorithmic amplification, elite capture, and institutional distrust, Gita Wirjawan conversation with Tom Ginsburg asks a deeper question: what sustains constitutional democracy, and what erodes it from within?From Southeast Asia’s dramatic transformation since the 1980s to the rise of authoritarianism at home, this episode weaves these threads together to examine the institutional architecture that makes freedom possible. It explores not only how democracies erode, but also what the best model of governance truly looks like in practice, and the constitutional framework required to sustain it over time.About the guest:Tom Ginsburg is a prominent American legal scholar specializing in comparative constitutional law and international law. He is a professor at the University of Chicago Law School, where he holds an endowed chair. He is widely known for his work on constitutional design, judicial politics, and the role of law in authoritarian regimes.#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #TomGinsburg---Episode you might like:https://youtu.be/7VAU6ejU3cc?si=sgdCyi4t9mfqOcxyhttps://youtu.be/PCYpeJYu9hY?si=xzB-5zj0P6ryQr0Vhttps://youtu.be/QZ1vMos7fck?si=C-OTKZ2htha_9dfs

1 hr 30 min
Apr 28, 2026Episode 265
Wesley Clark: Peace as a Paradoxical Ideal

Get your copy of Gita Wirjawan’s book, “What It Takes: Southeast Asia”, NOW:https://books.endgame.id/Also available on Amazon:https://sgpp.me/amazon/Leave your review here:www.goodreads.com/book/show/241922036-what-it-takes---------------Power shapes history, but character shapes the future. Democracies do not collapse in a single dramatic moment; they erode quietly through short-term thinking and the loss of moral clarity.General Wesley Clark, former Supreme Allied Commander of NATO, sat down with Gita Wirjawan to reflect on peace, military involvement in global security, and America’s changing identity in a multipolar world.The discussion spans the Middle East, Russia–Ukraine, nuclear risks, and civilian casualties, highlighting the balance between strength and restraint, realism and hope.Full topics:0:00:00 - Intro0:02:09 - Why joined the military0:16:24 - Spirituality & religiosity0:18:26 - History of the birth of America0:29:07 - What is peace?0:37:55 - The US in a multipolar world0:50:56 - Significance: The quest of the 21st century?0:57:29 - Nuclear proliferation1:08:10 - Middle East1:12:25 - A realist look at Ukraine1:14:40 - NATO1:19:20 - Why invest in Southeast Asia#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #WesleyClark------------------About the guest:Wesley Clark is a four-star U.S. Army general who devoted 34 years of service under eight presidents, spanning from the Cold War to the Balkans. He served as Supreme Allied Commander of NATO, leading NATO forces during a defining post–Cold War period. His career reflects decades of experience at the intersection of military strategy, political leadership, and the shaping of modern American power.About the host:Gita Wirjawan is an Indonesian entrepreneur and educator. He is the founding partner of Ikhlas Capital and the chairman of Ancora Group. Currently, he is teaching at Stanford as a visiting scholar with Stanford's Precourt Institute for Energy.------------------You may also like:https://youtu.be/PCYpeJYu9hY?si=mrMhRwUXgvti4-r7https://youtu.be/oT4OcBYEZac?si=b6YgpSOZwkwewcTjhttps://youtu.be/vZ7ocdh_rsk?si=mJKfaZEmXnVmHuYX------------------

1 hr 27 min
Apr 15, 2026Episode 264
Bhima Yudhistira: Ekonomi Tumbuh, Belum Tentu Dinikmati Semua

Buku yang saya tulis, ‘What It Takes: Southeast Asia’, sekarang sudah tersedia dalam Bahasa Indonesia dan Inggris. Dapatkan di sini:https://books.endgame.id/Sudah baca? Tinggalkan review-mu di sini:  / what-it-takes  ------------------Ekonomi Indonesia tumbuh 5%, tapi kelas menengah justru makin terjepit di tengah. Mereka dianggap terlalu kaya untuk dapat subsidi, namun terlalu kecil untuk dianggap sejahtera.Apa sebenarnya prioritas ekonomi kita?Pahami penjelasan Bhima Yudhistira, seorang ekonom dan Direktur Eksekutif CELIOS, dalam pembicaraannya dengan Gita Wirjawan.Tentang Bintang Tamu:Bhima Yudhistira adalah ekonom Indonesia yang menjabat sebagai Direktur Eksekutif Center of Economic and Law Studies (Celios). Ia kerap menjadi narasumber di berbagai media nasional untuk membahas kebijakan fiskal, utang negara, investasi, hilirisasi industri, hingga dampak kebijakan publik terhadap kelas menengah dan UMKM.#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #BhimaYudhistira-----------------

1 hr
Apr 13, 2026Episode 263
Francis Fukuyama: Is Western Civilization in Decline?

Get your copy of Gita Wirjawan’s book, “What It Takes: Southeast Asia”, NOW:https://books.endgame.id/Also available on Amazon:https://sgpp.me/amazon/Leave your review here:www.goodreads.com/book/show/241922036-what-it-takes------------------Francis Fukuyama argues that Western civilization is waning, and America can no longer agree on what it's even defending.In this episode, Professor Fukuyama discusses the deepening crisis within the liberal international order, as well as the symptoms and impact of America’s long-term decline.------------------About the Guest:Francis Fukuyama is a senior fellow at Stanford University's Freeman Spogli Institute and one of the most influential political theorists of the past three decades. Best known for “The End of History and the Last Man”, his work spans liberal democracy, political order, and institutional decay.About the host:Gita Wirjawan is an Indonesian entrepreneur and educator. He is the founding partner of Ikhlas Capital and the chairman of Ancora Group. Currently, he is teaching at Stanford as a visiting scholar with Stanford's Precourt Institute for Energy.------------------

1 hr 22 min
Apr 7, 2026Episode 262
Seyed Mohammad Marandi: How Orientalism Creates Information Asymmetry About Iran -

What is going to stop this war? What does true peace in the Middle East look like?Endgame sits down with Seyed Mohammad Marandi for answers from an Iranian perspective.#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #SeyedMarandi------------------About the Guest:Seyed Mohammad Marandi is a Professor of English Literature and Orientalism at the University of Tehran. His work spans literature, postcolonial studies, and political analysis.About the host:Gita Wirjawan is an Indonesian entrepreneur and educator. He is the founding partner of Ikhlas Capital and the chairman of Ancora Group. Currently, he is teaching at Stanford as a visiting scholar with Stanford's Precourt Institute for Energy.------------------Get your copy of Gita Wirjawan’s book, “What It Takes: Southeast Asia”, NOW:https://books.endgame.id/Also available on Amazon:https://sgpp.me/amazon/Leave your review here: www.goodreads.com/book/show/241922036-what-it-takes

1 hr 29 min
Apr 7, 2026Episode 261
Vali Nasr: Why This War Could Be a “Turning Point” for the Global Order

Why has Iran refused to break under decades of American and Israeli pressure? What really sustains the Islamic Republic? And what does this war reveal about the fractures in the global order?Nasr argues that reducing Iran to a theocracy misses the point entirely.------------------About the Guest:Vali Nasr served as Dean of the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS) and as Senior Advisor to the U.S. Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan. He is the author of several landmark books, including The Dispensable Nation, The Shia Revival, and his most recent, Iran’s Grand Strategy — which frames much of the conversation in this episode.About the host:Gita Wirjawan is an Indonesian entrepreneur and educator. He is the founding partner of Ikhlas Capital and the chairman of Ancora Group. Currently, he is teaching at Stanford as a visiting scholar with Stanford's Precourt Institute for Energy.------------------Get your copy of Gita Wirjawan’s book, “What It Takes: Southeast Asia”, NOW:https://books.endgame.id/Also available on Amazon: https://sgpp.me/amazon/Leave your review here: www.goodreads.com/book/show/241922036-what-it-takes------------------

1 hr 34 min
Mar 30, 2026Episode 260
Bivitri Susanti: Mengapa Hukum yang Buruk Boleh Ditentang?

Masyarakat yang cerdas tak akan patuhi hukum yang buruk. "Good people disobey bad law," kata pendiri Pusat Studi Hukum dan Kebijakan (PSHK)—Bivitri Susanti.Ketika itu terjadi, legitimasi hukum pun terguncang. Lantas bagaimana kita harus menyikapinya?#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #BivitriSusanti------------------Buku yang saya tulis, ‘What It Takes: Southeast Asia’, sekarang sudah tersedia dalam Bahasa Indonesia dan Inggris. Dapatkan di sini: https://books.endgame.idSudah baca? Tinggalkan review-mu di sini: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/241922036-what-it-takes------------------------------------

2 hr
Mar 16, 2026Episode 259
Jiang Xueqin: Our True Wealth Is Our Consciousness

Endgame presents Jiang Xueqin from ‘Predictive History’, a Beijing-based free thinker and high school teacher, in a conversation about how exactly the world works.Topics covered:0:00:00 - Intro0:02:04 - Harsh upbringing0:04:48 - Education journey0:14:41 - Skull and Bones0:19:35 - Naivitae & Depression0:22:28 - How journalism has evolved0:33:09 - Shifting world order0:38:36 - Civil war0:43:32 - Battle between elites0:45:59 - AI & consciousness0:54:28 - Trans-humanism0:56:13 - Board of Peace1:03:11 - Middle East1:25:46 - Will this war be never-ending?1:32:48 - Nuclear probability: “close to zero”1:37:59 - Economic repercussion1:42:13 - Gog and Magog1:48:00 - Midterm election1:50:45 - Conspiracy is no longer a conspiracy’1:52:25 - Approach to education1:56:01 - “You matter”1:58:35 - On love1:59:18 - Trump-Xi upcoming meeting#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #JiangXueqinRecorded on March 8, 2026.------------------About the host:Gita Wirjawan is an Indonesian entrepreneur and educator. He is the founding partner of Ikhlas Capital and the chairman of Ancora Group. Currently, he is teaching at Stanford as a visiting scholar with Stanford's Precourt Institute for Energy.------------------Get your copy of Gita Wirjawan’s book, “What It Takes: Southeast Asia”, NOW:<a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_d

1 hr 59 min
Mar 13, 2026Episode 258
John Mearsheimer: We’re Not in World War III Yet, Realist John Mearsheimer Explains

In his third appearance at Endgame, John Mearsheimer talks about the latest development on the global politics on the brink of another world war. The conversation spans from the Iran Conflict, the Ukraine War, East Asia, and the possibility of a nuclear war—soon.Recorded on March 5, 2026.------------------About the guest:John Joseph Mearsheimer is an international relations theorist (a realist) who served as the R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor in the Political Science Department at the University of Chicago, where he has taught since 1982.About the host:Gita Wirjawan is an Indonesian entrepreneur and educator. He is the founding partner of Ikhlas Capital and the chairman of Ancora Group. Currently, he is teaching at Stanford as a visiting scholar with Stanford's Precourt Institute for Energy.------------------Get your copy of Gita Wirjawan’s book, “What It Takes: Southeast Asia”, NOW:https://sgpp.me/what-it-takes-ytAnd leave your review here: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/241922036-what-it-takes

1 hr 35 min
Mar 7, 2026Episode 257
How AI-Enabled Organized Crimes & Systemic Scams Work - Niki Luhur

AI’s greatest disruption may not be automation — but trust. From deepfakes and adversarial attacks to cyber fraud funding organized crime, the risks are no longer theoretical. In an age where controlling your own data feels increasingly impossible, Niki Luhur (Founder & Group CEO, VIDA), argues that only a zero-trust redesign of digital systems can prevent the next systemic crisis.Learn how to protect yourself and your business in the age of scamdemics: https://vida.id/en/wheresthefraud#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #NikiLuhur------------------Get your copy of Gita Wirjawan’s book, “What It Takes: Southeast Asia”, NOW: https://sgpp.me/what-it-takes-ytAnd leave your review here:https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/241922036-what-it-takes------------------Watch Niki’s first episode on Endgame:https://youtu.be/yIGS5ZXVnJU?si=6zgyvMmnu7QyA91CYou might also like:https://youtu.be/HXM089acVZ0?si=q_BgjGBqKpiSQMuthttps://youtu.be/xUdCSq4W1Kk?si=_Kf4OrGHH2M6wwayhttps://youtu.be/yln9TcNRw8w?si=vn3EBVY4110IsIr3------------------

55 min
Mar 7, 2026Episode 256
Eric Maskin: Our Voting System Is Broken, Here’s the Fix

Get your copy of Gita Wirjawan’s book, “What It Takes: Southeast Asia”, NOW: https://sgpp.me/what-it-takes-ytAnd leave your review here:https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/241922036-what-it-takes------------------------Many of us have, at one time or another, questioned the real impact of a public policy. But Eric Maskin encourages us to shift the focus: instead of asking only what policies do, we should ask how the rules behind them are designed in the first place.A Nobel Prize–winning economist, Maskin is best known for developing the foundations of mechanism design theory. This branch of microeconomics—closely linked to game theory and information economics—examines how to structure rules and incentives so that socially desirable outcomes emerge, even when individuals act rationally and hold private information.In addition to his theoretical work, Maskin has proposed true-majority voting rules as a way to strengthen democratic systems. His approach addresses weaknesses in conventional electoral frameworks, which can be susceptible to elite capture, and aims to ensure that election outcomes more accurately reflect the will of the majority.#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #EricMaskin-----------------------------------------You might also like these episodes:https://youtu.be/eRRMurnQnJU?si=55n3y8sVDTYhhJE-https://youtu.be/CXUgsJYpfvs?si=KBauWO64HWoCi0Athttps://youtu.be/iF9z1G-6i-Q?si=JP2PstD1HjZ9HV3q------------------

1 hr 5 min
Mar 6, 2026Episode 255
M. Quraish Shihab : Akui Perbedaan, tapi Cari Persamaan

Menyambut bulan suci Ramadhan 2026, Endgame kembali menghadirkan Bapak M. Quraish Shihab untuk menebar pesan-pesan kebersamaan dan perdamaian.Episode ini membahas pentingnya mencari titik temu perbedaan dari berbagai keragaman agama dunia.#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #QuraishShihab------------------Buku yang saya tulis, ‘What It Takes: Southeast Asia’, sekarang sudah tersedia dalam Bahasa Indonesia dan Inggris. Dapatkan di sini:https://books.endgame.idSudah baca? Tinggalkan review-mu di sini:  / what-it-takes

1 hr 44 min
Mar 6, 2026Episode 254
Pak Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono: Membaca Catur Politik Dunia

Volatilitas semakin tinggi. Instabilitas semakin menjadi. Ketidakpastian semakin pasti.Pertanyaannya, kita harus apa?Presiden Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono hadir di Endgame untuk ketiga kalinya. Beliau memberikan pandangan, refleksi, dan pencerahan tentang bagaimana menyikapi dan menghadapi kesengitan percaturan geopolitik hari ini dan esok.Direkam 26 Januari 2026 di SBY Music Studio, Cikeas.Terima kasih kepada Nyla Permata Sari dan seluruh tim SBY Studio atas dedikasi dan kerja kerasnya dalam mewujudkan acara ini.Topik selengkapnya:0:00:00 - Intro0:05:41 - Kenapa harus ikuti isu geopolitik0:08:51 - Agenda dunia berjalan mundur?0:12:44 - Perubahan struktural dunia hari ini0:18:22 - Sejarah kebangkitan Tiongkok0:26:35 - Mesti ikuti ideologi Barat atau Timur?0:36:37 - Ultranasionalisme0:44:09 - Board of Peace0:48:21 - Moralitas vs Realisme0:53:12 - Perang Dunia Ketiga1:06:11 - Dilema Nuklir1:10:37 - Ini harusnya strategi geopolitik kita1:40:38 - Kembalikan diplomasi#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #SusiloBambangYudhoyono------------------Buku yang saya tulis, ‘What It Takes: Southeast Asia’, sekarang sudah tersedia dalam Bahasa Indonesia dan Inggris. Dapatkan di sini:<a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_descripti

1 hr 31 min
Feb 11, 2026Episode 253
China Predicted Its Rise 75 Years Ago - Eric X. Li

Talks about the “Party Life: Chinese Governance and the World Beyond Liberalism” (2023) book with the author, Eric X. Li.This episode discusses China’s rapid rise in the last three decades, which he divides into three stages (Revolution, Infusion, and Reconciliation), and what the world could learn from that monumental history.#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #China------------------------About the Guest:Eric Xun Li is a Chinese venture capitalist and political scientist. He is the founder of Chengwei Capital, invested in 100+ diverse companies with cumulative investment of 2 billion USD++. Eric is also the founder of a Chinese media platform, Guancha.cn, with more than 100 million daily viewers.About the Host:Gita Wirjawan is an Indonesian entrepreneur and educator. He is the founding partner & chairman of Ikhlas Capital and the chairman of Ancora Group. Currently, he is teaching at Stanford as a visiting scholar with Stanford's Precourt Institute for Energy.

1 hr 40 min
Feb 10, 2026Episode 252
Sudirman Said: Bencana dan Revolusi Era Baru

Pendidikan, kepemimpinan, dan energi. Tiga bahan dasar nation-building dari kacamata Sudirman Said.Gita dan Sudirman juga mengajak kita untuk merefleksikan kembali bencana tsunami Aceh 2004 serta upaya-upaya cepat tanggap kala itu, agar kita bisa memetik pelajarannya hari ini.-----------------Buku yang saya tulis, ‘What It Takes: Southeast Asia’, sekarang sudah tersedia dalam Bahasa Indonesia dan Inggris. Dapatkan di sini:https://books.endgame.id--------------------------------------Sudah baca? Tinggalkan review-mu di sini:  / what-it-takes

1 hr 38 min
Jan 30, 2026Episode 251
Glenn Diesen: “When the World Is Multipolar, You Diversify”

Get your copy of Gita Wirjawan’s book, “What It Takes: Southeast Asia”, NOW: https://sgpp.me/what-it-takes-ytAnd leave your review here:https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/241922036-what-it-takes------------------Join Gita Wirjawan and Glenn Diesen in a conversation about world politics, democracy, and the future of Europe. More on this episode:00:00 - Intro02:00 - What is Eurasia06:23 - “When the world is multipolar, you diversify.”11:29 - Should Europe prioritize economic or security?16:46 - Public opinion-policymaking divorce20:23 - Good governance24:00 - The tragedy of great power politics29:33 - Ukraine resolution34:45 - Trump’s strategic ambiguity45:00 - Genocide55:00 - The US is becoming a tribute economy57:00 - Paradox of Multipolarity1:11:15 - Global political1:19:41 - Redefining democracy1:31:50 - Future of the EU#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #GlennDiesen ----------------------------About the Guest:Glenn Diesen is a Norwegian professor and geopolitical analyst specializing in Russian foreign policy, Eurasian integration, and the shift toward a multipolar world order. A professor at the University of South-Eastern Norway, he is widely known for his critical perspective on Western hegemony and NATO expansion, often arguing that global power is tilting toward a "Greater Eurasia" framework. About the Host:Gita Wirjawan is an Indonesian entrepreneur and educator. He is the founding partner of Ikhlas Capital and the chairman of Ancora Group. Currently, he is teaching at Stanford as a visiting scholar with Stanford's Precourt Institute for Energy.___________________Episodes you might like:1. https://youtu.be/eRRMurnQnJU2. https://youtu.be/CXUgsJYpfvs3. https://youtu.be/_AbeVh1JRcg------------------Special thanks to our ‘Future Narrators’ channel members:Mariko Yoshihara, Yemotto IBRAHIM, hobi kluyuran, Fajar Prasetyo, Dyah Firgiani, keetkaat, Excel-lent, Arie Gunardi, Yayi Trisnawati D, Teddy Chow, Wwertyssnb, Crispy_Cracker58, Priyanithi Dharsania Negara, Widi Aphrian, hndraable, hendro trihatmojo, Muhammad Taufik Evendi, QunÔºáan Syukrilah, azam adnani, Charles Andrew Tang, Ariyo Arinsa Putra, Reda Bellarbi, Jaz Simbolon, Muhammad Ismail Mubarak, Stefanus B. W., KATE WOLSKA, pixelcadet, Itje Chodidjah, Geralt Fajar Bukan, Jack Duan, Elmi CK Ong, Lucy March, Anggun Noventina, Irawan Purwono, Krishna Putra, Agnes Pranindita, Darso Arafa, nazaruddin nasir, 747sgw, benget yakub, Patricia S, ferra febrianti, De Guda Kessa, Gusko Adnyana, mjk939, Jerry Budiman, Mawan Darmawan, diah anggraini, Ainur Rofiq, Adrian Baskoro, Bambang Haryanto, Ezwan Zakaria, Marilyn C, Kianti Darusman, Revolution R, liza dewi, Joanna FKG, Susanto Uno, Taswin Munier, M Firaldi Akbar Zulkarnain, Super ‚ÄúBuupy Pub‚Äù Bondon, Ferdy Reza, Elnasdi Moda, Hendry Ahen, Aria Widyanto, Ilham R, Ayu Arman, Haju Ara Podcast, Flores Exotic Tours, Meilisva AA Taniel, nonik martyastuti, Niki S, Anita Amalia, hardianiati, Salwaluna Maryam, Dewi Risnawati, birgietta katherine, Derry Harnan

1 hr 21 min
Jan 19, 2026Episode 250
Pandu Sjahrir Patahkan Mitos tentang Danantara

Buku yang saya tulis, ‘What It Takes: Southeast Asia’, sekarang sudah tersedia dalam Bahasa Indonesia dan Inggris. Dapatkan di sini:https://books.endgame.idSudah baca? Tinggalkan review-mu di sini:https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/241922036-what-it-takes------------------Mengupas cerita di balik layar Danantara langsung bersama sang CIO, Pandu SjahrirPercakapan yang diramu untuk menjawab rasa penasaran kita semua: Apa sebenernya yang dilakukan Danantara? Mengapa penting? Bagaimana ejawantah ide dan gagasan yang dibawa? Siapa saja orang-orang di baliknya?#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #PanduSjahrirTopik selengkapnya:00:00 - Intro01:08 - Masuk ke ‘kampus militer’-nya ekonomi05:36 - Pentingya berjejaring08:35 - 5 nilai yang diajarkan orang tua Pandu13:31 - Danantara17:28 - Yang dicari dari investasi23:05 - Passion Pandu sesungguhnya: Pendidikan dan Guru27:06 - Patahkan mitos tentang Danantara38:27 - Korupsi43:19 - Ketahanan Pangan46:51 - Ketahanan Energi54:02 - Kenapa investasi asing itu penting1:04:46 - Harus lihat 50—100 tahun ke depan1:11:25 - Narasi dari Asia Tenggara1:17:03 - Waste to Energy------------------Episode lain yang mungkin Anda sukai:https://youtu.be/Ss6ud71pmvQ?si=4fgqA2LlfICPLpArhttps://youtu.be/lpQrUTWXHZU?si=1gpeWZBUH6lydFeYhttps://youtu.be/Ne6hcWoWzDo?si=bvlj1YiMlSWqDL-g------------------

1 hr 34 min
Jan 15, 2026Episode 249
Adi Rahman Adiwoso: ‘Bapak Satelit Indonesia’ Kita Harus Bangun Industri Antariksa

Buku yang saya tulis, ‘What It Takes: Southeast Asia’, sekarang sudah tersedia dalam Bahasa Indonesia dan Inggris. Dapatkan di sini: https://books.endgame.idSudah baca? Tinggalkan review-mu di sini: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/241922036-what-it-takes------------------Semua tahu kekayaan alam yang ada di dalam dan di atas tanah air Indonesia. Namun siapa benar-benar memahami sejarah, kekuatan, dan potensi kita… di ruang angkasa?Endgame menghadirkan Adi Rahman Adiwoso, pimpinan Pasifik Satelit Nusantara, untuk membahas ekosistem antariksa di Indonesia dari perspektif industri.Adi secara khusus menekankan pentingnya kedaulatan antariksa bagi Indonesia. Ia juga menerangkan besarnya peluang ekonomi luar angkasa (space economy) jika dapat dimanfaatkan secara maksimal.Sebuah topik yang undernarrated, tetapi sangat penting untuk dibahas.#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #AdiRahmanAdiwoso------------------

1 hr 50 min
Jan 15, 2026Episode 248
Etika Politik, Tata Negara, Filsafat Ekonomi ala Tom Lembong

Buku yang saya tulis, ‘What It Takes: Southeast Asia’, sekarang sudah tersedia dalam Bahasa Indonesia dan Inggris. Dapatkan di sini:https://books.endgame.idSudah baca? Tinggalkan review-mu di sini:https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/241922036-what-it-takes------------------#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #TomLembong------------------Episode lain yang mungkin Anda sukai:https://youtu.be/Ss6ud71pmvQ?si=UGN5BNqWsPBFnbpGhttps://youtu.be/sXa4hU3PlZo?si=fZvaa5ZSRP3kdIo2https://youtu.be/9D9XG33maJs?si=oRtXAlmTyhhYGsRa------------------

54 min
Dec 18, 2025Episode 247
Marty Natalegawa: Runtuhnya Kepercayaan Publik: Sebuah Perspektif Geopolitika

Menentukan arah Indonesia di tengah perceraian Amerika Serikat dengan Tiongkok.Direkam 20 September 2025; bagian dari Endgame Town Hall 2025.#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #MartyNatalegawa-----------------Buku yang saya tulis, ‘What It Takes: Southeast Asia’, sekarang sudah tersedia dalam Bahasa Indonesia dan Inggris. Dapatkan di sini:https://books.endgame.idSudah baca? Tinggalkan review-mu di sini:  / what-it-takes  -----------------Other Endgame episodes that you might like:   • Vijay Prashad: America’s Finger-Wagging Pu...     • Kishore Mahbubani: The Biggest Mistakes of...     • John Mearsheimer: What’s Behind Biden’s Bl...

1 hr 33 min
Dec 3, 2025Episode 245
Pendirian dalam Berkebijakan Itu Penting - Purbaya Sadewa

Buku yang saya tulis, ‘What It Takes: Southeast Asia’, sekarang sudah tersedia dalam Bahasa Indonesia dan Inggris. Dapatkan di sini: https://books.endgame.id/Sudah baca? Tinggalkan review-mu di sini:https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...---------------------Bagaimana arah kebijakan dan lanskap ekonomi ke depan?Untuk pertama kalinya, Purbaya Yudhi Sadewa berbincang selama lebih dari 90 menit untuk membahas segala aspek yang penting untuk Anda pahami: mengapa uang beredar penting, bagaimana meningkatkan penanaman modal asing dan penerimaan pajak, hingga strategi mencapai target pertumbuhan 8%.Purbaya dan Gita juga menyentuh topik lainnya, termasuk dana pendidikan, desentralisasi ekonomi, serta peningkatan elektrifikasi. Terlebih lagi, Purbaya juga membahas beberapa hal personal seperti latar belakang pendidikan dan filsafat ekonomi beliau.#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #PurbayaSadewa---------------------Episode lainnya yang mungkin Anda sukai:https://youtu.be/DTz5X5NVSdk?si=M_1xg...https://youtu.be/S0GcAdhLKYE?si=5Dd3_...https://youtu.be/A9jWMsM4-wU?si=6oQTm...

46 min
Nov 26, 2025Episode 244
When Economy & Democracy Truly Serve Humanity - Amartya Sen

From math, Sanskrit, and epistemology, to freedom, justice, and democracy—Gita Wirjawan in conversation with Nobel Laureate Amartya Sen.English subtitles available.#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #AmartyaSen-----------------Nobelist Amartya Sen reads "What It Takes: Southeast Asia". You should too!BUY NOW:https://sgpp.me/what-it-takes-ytor get it at Periplus: https://sgpp.me/what-it-takes-periplus-----------------About the Guest:Professor Amartya Sen is a Thomas W. Lamont University Professor and Professor of Economics and Philosophy at Harvard University. He won the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences in 1998, “for his contributions to welfare economics.”About the Host:Gita Wirjawan is an Indonesian entrepreneur and educator. He is the founding partner of Ikhlas Capital and the chairman of Ancora Group. Currently, he is teaching at Stanford as a visiting scholar with Stanford's Precourt Institute for Energy.-----------------Other Endgame episodes that you might like:https://youtu.be/_A6x_21ojD0?si=a7YIa...https://youtu.be/VHJwO13EqWE?si=ZURD6...https://youtu.be/Pg4w-rwTCXE?si=JyEc2...------------------

58 min
Nov 20, 2025Episode 243
Mungkinkah Meritokrasi di Tengah Mediokrasi? - Rocky Gerung dan Tom Lembong

Baca buku saya, 'What It Takes: Southeast Asia’, sekarang di:https://sgpp.me/what-it-takes-ytatau di Periplus: https://sgpp.me/what-it-takes-periplus------------Ini adalah kali pertama Rocky Gerung, Tom Lembong, dan Gita Wirjawan berada dalam satu panggung. Membahas konsep dan praktik meritokrasi, refleksinya dari paradoks meritokrasi di Tiongkok (sebagai sebuah negara autokrasi), serta pengejawantahannya di awal sejarah Indonesia sebagai sebuah negara-bangsa.Topik selengkapnya:00:00 - Intro01:09 - Meritokrasi di negara otokrasi07:54 - Bisakah meritokrasi dikendalikan medioker?15:59 - Mengapa muncul gejala federalisme?25:42 - Mitos rakyat Indonesia tidak pintar32:52 - Debat Gita-Rocky42:11 - Autokrasi tanda negara sekarat47:15 - Suburkan dialektika dalam kurikulum publik52:40 - Tuhan berjenakaDirekam 20 September 2025; bagian dari Endgame Town Hall 2025.#RockyGerung #TomLembong #GitaWirjawan-----------------Tonton juga episode Rocky Gerung sebelumnya di Endgame:https://youtu.be/3Zsw5RTbQi0?si=8RtOeDgdMyZYBEZthttps://youtu.be/LsmfczRIXT8?si=tsJyA757pSVClPsqhttps://youtu.be/BSwlImumegY?si=bUfMpiailYrrxlSF------------------Special thanks to our ‘Future Narrators’ channel members:Mariko Yoshihara, Yemotto IBRAHIM, hobi kluyuran, Fajar Prasetyo, Dyah Firgiani, keetkaat, Excel-lent, Arie Gunardi, Yayi Trisnawati D, Teddy Chow, Wwertyssnb, Crispy_Cracker58, Priyanithi Dharsania Negara, Widi Aphrian, hndraable, hendro trihatmojo, QunÔºáan Syukrilah, azam adnani, Charles Andrew Tang, Ariyo Arinsa Putra, Reda Bellarbi, Jaz Simbolon, Muhammad Ismail Mubarak, Wahyu Jaka, Stefanus B. W., KATE WOLSKA, pixelcadet, Itje Chodidjah, Geralt Fajar Bukan, Jack Duan, Lucy March, auliaali05, Anggun Noventina, Irawan Purwono, Krishna Putra, Agnes Pranindita, Darso Arafa, nazaruddin nasir, 747sgw, benget yakub, Patricia S, ferra febrianti, De Guda Kessa, Gusko Adnyana, mjk939, Jerry Budiman, Mawan Darmawan, Muhammad Naufal, diah anggraini, Ainur Rofiq, Adrian Baskoro, Bambang Haryanto, Ezwan Zakaria, Marilyn C, Kianti Darusman, Revolution R, Joanna FKG, Susanto Uno, Taswin Munier, M Firaldi Akbar Zulkarnain, Super „Buupy Pub” Bondon, Ferdy Reza, Elnasdi Moda, Hendry Ahen, Aria Widyanto, Ayu Arman, Ilham R, Haju Ara Podcast, Meilisva AA Taniel, Flores Exotic Tours, nonik martyastuti, Niki S, Anita Amalia, hardianiati, Maya, Dewi Risnawati, birgietta katherine, Derry Harnanda, Aleyandra Rizka Amalia, Ridwan Sakidja, Rita Sahara, Sanityas Prawatyani, Teddy Sutendi, erna girirachman, Alvin Rivaldi, Ronny Wijaya, Sam K Nugraha, Arif R3 Vibration, FBC Ponto, Stella sinaga, Muhammad Rizal Akbar, KP, Kawal Jakarta, vava vivi, Yufud Rahayun, Calvin Go, Freddy Wijaya, Toto Parminto, Bambang Made, Nova Rahayu Yusuf, Oktavianto Dwi Wicaksono, Muhi Futon, Sophia Alizsa

54 min
Nov 20, 2025Episode 242
Kecerdasan dan Kebodohan Sama-sama Bisa Dilatih - dr. Ryu Hasan

Baca buku saya, 'What It Takes: Southeast Asia’, sekarang di:https://sgpp.me/what-it-takes-ytatau di Periplus: https://sgpp.me/what-it-takes-periplus------------Kali kedua hadir di Endgame, dr. Roslan Yusni Hasan (akrab dipanggil dr. Ryu Hasan) membahas konsep-konsep yang kerap kali disalahpahami dan dipolarisasi seperti: kebahagiaan v.s. kekayaan, keamanan v.s. ketenangan, empirisme v.s. abstraksi, kesadaran dan penderitaan, kebenaran dan otoritas, hingga kecerdasan dan kebahagiaan.Direkam 20 September 2025; bagian dari Endgame Town Hall 2025.#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #RyuHasan-----------------Tonton juga episode Ryu Hasan sebelumnya di Endgame:https://youtu.be/iFghbhtpcUI?si=0aC5ihkz4OeeJ8IBEpisode lain yang mungkin Anda sukai:https://youtu.be/g8F5nd-eAyU?si=YZdmhKBzzGL0U7YHhttps://youtu.be/r_Px7xjtkWA?si=jh6Mi_NQV3VJrGquhttps://youtu.be/Io40wI5Abac?si=wiNoiFLHKnrVD89x------------------Special thanks to our ‘Future Narrators’ channel members:Mariko Yoshihara, Yemotto IBRAHIM, hobi kluyuran, Fajar Prasetyo, Dyah Firgiani, keetkaat, Excel-lent, Arie Gunardi, Yayi Trisnawati D, Teddy Chow, Wwertyssnb, Crispy_Cracker58, Priyanithi Dharsania Negara, Widi Aphrian, hndraable, Muhammad Taufik Evendi, hendro trihatmojo, QunÔºáan Syukrilah, Charles Andrew Tang, Ariyo Arinsa Putra, Reda Bellarbi, Jaz Simbolon, Muhammad Ismail Mubarak, Wahyu Jaka, Stefanus B. W., KATE WOLSKA, pixelcadet, Itje Chodidjah, Elmi CK Ong, Geralt Fajar Bukan, Jack Duan, Lucy March, masni eritrina, auliaali05, Anggun Noventina, Irawan Purwono, Krishna Putra, Agnes Pranindita, Darso Arafa, nazaruddin nasir, 747sgw, benget yakub, Patricia S, ferra febrianti, De Guda Kessa, Gusko Adnyana, mjk939, Jerry Budiman, Mawan Darmawan, diah anggraini, Ainur Rofiq, Adrian Baskoro, Bambang Haryanto, Ezwan Zakaria, liza dewi, Marilyn C, Kianti Darusman, Revolution R, Joanna FKG, Taswin Munier, M Firaldi Akbar Zulkarnain, Super ‚ÄúBuupy Pub‚Äù Bondon, Ferdy Reza, Elnasdi Moda, Hendry Ahen, Aria Widyanto, Ayu Arman, Ilham R, Haju Ara Podcast, Meilisva AA Taniel, Flores Exotic Tours, nonik martyastuti, Salwaluna Maryam, Niki S, Anita Amalia, Dewi Risnawati, birgietta katherine, Derry Harnanda, Aleyandra Rizka Amalia, Ridwan Sakidja, Rita Sahara, Sanityas Prawatyani, Teddy Sutendi, erna girirachman, Joshi Putriasih, Alvin Rivaldi, Ronny Wijaya, Budianto Wu, ahmad suparlan, Sam K Nugraha, Arif R3 Vibration, FBC Ponto, Stella sinaga, Muhammad Rizal Akbar, chandrawati Saragih, KP------------------00:00 - Intro01:41 - Empirisme vs. Abstraksi09:12 - Melatih cara kerja otak15:57 - Nihilisme dan Spiritualisme17:09 - GenZ dan 'Parasocial Relationship Disorder'22:52 - Mungkinkah lompatan kognitif?31:51 - Kecerdasan, Kebahagiaan, Kekayaan41:18 - Gembira vs. Bahagia46:30 - Tertib vs. Tenang51:16 - Jangan respons masalah pakai masalah

1 hr 31 min
Nov 5, 2025Episode 240
Helman Sitohang: “Pendidikan Jauh Lebih Penting daripada Uang”

Baca buku saya, 'What It Takes: Southeast Asia’, sekarang di:https://sgpp.me/what-it-takes-ytatau di Periplus: https://sgpp.me/what-it-takes-periplus--------------Dua alumni Pangudi Luhur yang mendunia kembali duduk di bangku sekolah untuk berbicara tentang peran pendidikan dalam hidup mereka masing-masing, serta bagaimana Indonesia harus menata pendidikan ke depan.Selain itu, Helman dan Gita juga menyentuh isu regional, termasuk budaya etos kerja, argumentasi, hingga meritokrasi.---------------About the host: Gita is an Indonesian entrepreneur and educator. He is the founding partner of Ikhlas Capital and the chairman of Ancora Group. Currently, he is teaching at Stanford as a visiting scholar with Stanford's Precourt Institute for Energy; and a fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School's Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs.

2 hr 10 min
Oct 22, 2025Episode 238
Rian Fahardhi: Opini Publik & Kebijakan Bercerai, Bisa Rekonsiliasi?

Baca buku saya, 'What It Takes: Southeast Asia’, sekarang di:https://sgpp.me/what-it-takes-ytatau di Periplus: https://sgpp.me/what-it-takes-periplus---------------Gen Z kedua yang hadir di siniar Endgame, Rian Fahardhi membahas bagaimana tantangan dan potensi yang dimiliki pemuda Indonesia hari ini. Selain itu, Rian juga mengupas berbagai polemik pendidikan serta solusi-solusi yang dimungkinkan untuk mengentaskan itu semua. Ia bercerita tentang bagaimana kepeduliannya terhadap isu kepemudaan dan pendidikan memantiknya untuk membentuk inisiasi Distrik Berisik dan Sekolah Tanah Air.Dalam percakapan ini, Rian menekankan pentingnya diskursus dan empati lintas generasi untuk masa depan yang lebih baik.#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #RianFahardhi ---------------Episode lainnya yang mungkin Anda sukai:https://youtu.be/FZ8S9ug5DsQ?si=cmQAQ-2CyS2e1ULUhttps://youtu.be/8VgOjyMl9YQ?si=c7ts08Dx1uLwWg53https://youtu.be/TTxxp--l4I4?si=kOh1aPnobqc_vbkYv---------------Jelajahi dan jadi bagian dari komunitas kamihttps://www.instagram.com/gamechangers.id/---------------Untuk ajakan kolaborasi dan kerja sama, hubungi kami di sini:https://sgpp.me/contactus---------------

1 hr 37 min
Oct 15, 2025Episode 237
Dwiki Dharmawan : “Dengan Musik, Dunia Penuh Cinta dan Kedamaian”

Baca buku saya, 'What It Takes: Southeast Asia’, sekarang di:https://sgpp.me/what-it-takes-ytatau di Periplus: https://sgpp.me/what-it-takes-periplus-----------------------------Dwiki Dharmawan bercerita tentang 40 tahun perjalanannya di industri musik Indonesia. Selain itu, beliau juga membahas nilai-nilai filosofis yang bisa kita petik dari jazz serta peran musik dalam diplomasi.#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #DwikiDharmawan ---------------Episode lainnya yang mungkin Anda sukai:https://youtu.be/MvwN7lWib-Ihttps://youtu.be/TPwUGxkuY_shttps://youtu.be/utiTCJVuEnE---------------Jelajahi dan jadi bagian dari komunitas kamihttps://endgame.id/---------------Untuk ajakan kolaborasi dan kerja sama, hubungi kami di sini:https://sgpp.me/contactus---------------

1 hr 11 min
Oct 8, 2025Episode 236
Victor Gao on How the US Misunderstands China

Great news! Endgame Podcast meraih peringkat ke-4 dari 100 podcast terbaik Indonesia versi FeedSpot. Lihat daftarnya di sini: https://podcast.feedspot.com/indonesi...Terima kasih telah membantu kami mendemokratisasi gagasan di tengah riuhnya informasi. 🙏----------------------------------------------------------------If Deng Xiaoping were still with us today, how would he navigate the current dynamics between the United States and China?To explore this question and beyond, Endgame invites Victor Gao—who once worked directly with the great man.Victor and Gita exchange many thoughts, all hinging on one central observation: America’s misunderstanding of China’s international posture is both evident and consequential.In this 70-minute conversation, Victor guides us through how the world should truly read China—its history, strategy, and worldview.Thumbnail photo credit: Jan Reinier van der Vliet from Nexus Institute (https://nexus-instituut.nl/person/victor-gao)--------------------------------------------------------About the Guest:Victor Gao is the Vice President of the Center for China and Globalization (CCG) and Chair Professor at Soochow University.About the Host:Gita Wirjawan is an Indonesian entrepreneur and educator. He is the founding partner of Ikhlas Capital and the chairman of Ancora Group. Currently, he is teaching at Stanford as a visiting scholar with Stanford's Precourt Institute for Energy.-----------------Other Endgame episodes that you might like:https://youtu.be/_A6x_21ojD0?si=iPPcE4v9PGemgwrDhttps://youtu.be/jn7Q9ZvXRcI?si=w3Dd2obxEJYZD-duhttps://youtu.be/39_bpaaio1U?si=IrjIszYco0job2QT

1 hr 39 min
Oct 1, 2025Episode 235
Roderick Purwana: Danai 300+ Perusahaan Teknologi di Asia Tenggara

Baca buku saya, 'What It Takes: Southeast Asia’, sekarang di:https://sgpp.me/what-it-takes-ytatau di Periplus: https://sgpp.me/what-it-takes-periplus------------------------------------------------Great news! Endgame Podcast meraih peringkat ke-4 dari 100 podcast terbaik Indonesia versi FeedSpot. Lihat daftarnya di sini: https://podcast.feedspot.com/indonesia_podcasts/-------------------------------------------------Roderick Purwana adalah Managing Partner dari East Ventures, sebuah perusahaan modal ventura terkemuka di Asia Tenggara. Dengan pengalaman di dunia investasi, teknologi, dan keuangan, ia telah mendampingi ratusan perusahaan rintisan dan berperan aktif mendorong inovasi serta pembangunan ekonomi di kawasan.Dalam episode ini, Roderick membahas hal-hal yang dapat membantu pertumbuhan nasional dan kawasan—mulai dari pendidikan, investasi, peningkatan produktivitas, hingga sektor-sektor mana saja yang perlu digenjot.Selain itu, Roderick dan Gita juga mengupas topik-topik yang dekat dengan kewirausahaan. Beberapa di antaranya ialah tiga karakter yang dimiliki para founder sukses, manajemen risiko dan kepercayaan (trust) sebagai kunci suburnya investasi, serta pentingnya meningkatkan etos kerja.#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #EastVentures-------------------------------------------------------Episode lainnya yang mungkin Anda sukai:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-hh_bKgnJ6FqDJwTs5YB3xMvQrFCDSoJJelajahi dan jadi bagian dari komunitas kamihttps://endgame.id/Untuk ajakan kolaborasi dan kerja sama, hubungi kami di sini:https://sgpp.me/contactus

1 hr 21 min
Sep 17, 2025Episode 233
dr. Sari Chairunisa: Pimpin 15 Ribu Karyawan: Itu Amanah

dr. Sari Chairunnisa, Deputy CEO ParagonCorp, membahas pentingnya pendidikan STEM dalam meningkatkan produktivitas di Indonesia. Beliau juga membagikan kunci keberhasilan Paragon dalam merangkul aspek kemanusiaan, kemutakhiran, dan relevansi.-------------------------------------------------------------About the host: Gita is an Indonesian entrepreneur and educator. He is the founding partner of Ikhlas Capital and the chairman of Ancora Group. Currently, he is teaching at Stanford as a visiting scholar with Stanford's Precourt Institute for Energy; and a fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School's Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs.---------------------Episode lainnya yang mungkin Anda sukai:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...---------------------Jelajahi dan jadi bagian dari komunitas kamihttps://endgame.id/---------------------Untuk ajakan kolaborasi dan kerja sama, hubungi kami di sini:https://sgpp.me/contactus

1 hr 49 min
Sep 10, 2025Episode 232
Arif Havas Oegroseno: Laut dan Pesisir - Jati Diri Indonesia yang Sejati

Join Endgame Town Hall 2025 bersama Gita Wirjawan, Bagus Muljadi, dan bintang tamu lainnya:Tom Lembong, ⁠Marty Natalegawa, ⁠Maudy Ayunda, ⁠Mahfud MD, ⁠Rocky Gerung, ⁠Agus Harimurti Yudhoyono (AHY), ⁠Iyas Lawrence, ⁠Andini Effendi, ⁠Husein Ja’far Al Hadar (Habib Ja’far), ⁠Aishah Prastowo, ⁠Angga Sasongko, dan masih banyak lagi!20 September, di Kartika Expo, Balai Kartini, JakartaBeli tiketnya sekarang: bit.ly/EGTH-TicketsAtau jadi bagian pergerakan intelektual ini:https://sgpp.me/endgametownhall-partn...---------------------Baca buku saya, 'What It Takes: Southeast Asia’, sekarang di:https://sgpp.me/what-it-takes-ytatau di Periplus: https://sgpp.me/what-it-takes-periplus---------------------Dalam episode ini, Wamenlu Arif Havas Oegroseno membahas defisit pemahaman dunia tentang kelautan dan kepesisiran, serta bagaimana Indonesia bisa berperan dalam mengubah hal itu.#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #ArifHavasOegroseno---------------------Episode lain yang mungkin Anda sukai:https://youtu.be/3wCuoHKkmiwhttps://youtu.be/YdDLsEPbMzohttps://youtu.be/nP4So_ga3kw

1 hr 10 min
Sep 3, 2025Episode 231
Why Jeffrey Sachs Thinks That Indonesia's Leadership Is Needed

Pre-order Gita Wirjawan’s book, “What It Takes”, NOW:https://sgpp.me/what-it-takes-yt------------Appearing at Endgame for the second time, Jeffrey Sachs discusses the withering of American exceptionalism, the history of the US’s foreign interference, and its lasting impact to today.Prof. Sachs also talks about the relationship between the 7 wars in the Middle East with the Zionist lobby, as well as the chance for a Two-State Solution on the back of more countries acknowledging the sovereignty of Palestine despite the US obstinacy.More on this episode:0:00:00 - Intro0:02:07 - Public opinion-government policy divide0:05:17 - Jeff: America is being delusional 0:13:18 - Re-reading the Monroe Doctrine0:24:03 - Ukraine War: A US “game plan”0:24:55 - Propaganda 0:32:58 - The only risk the US faces is…0:34:53 - The 7 Wars & Zionist Lobby0:47:11 - Netanyahu’s Theater of War0:49:54 - Indonesia’s leadership is needed0:58:13 - “China is not a threat"1:02:53 - Trump will make India join RCEP? #Endgame #GitaWirjawan #JeffreySachs-----------------About the Guest:Professor Jeffrey Sachs is an influential development economist who serves as the Director of the Center for Sustainable Development at Columbia University. His roles as Special Advisor to UN Secretaries-General Kofi Annan (2001-7), Ban Ki-moon (2008-16), and António Guterres (2017-18) underscore his commitment to global cooperation. Prof Sachs is also the author of three New York Times bestsellers: "The End of Poverty" (2005), "Common Wealth: Economics for a Crowded Planet" (2008), and "The Price of Civilization" (2011).About the Host:Gita Wirjawan is an Indonesian entrepreneur and educator. He is the founding partner of Ikhlas Capital and the chairman of Ancora Group. Currently, he is teaching at Stanford as a visiting scholar with Stanford's Precourt Institute for Energy.-----------------Prof. Sachs' first appearance at Endgame:"There Is No Shortcut to Peace" (Endgame #175)Other Endgame episodes that you might like:Vijay Prashad: America’s Finger-Wagging Puts Global South in DangerKishore Mahbubani: The Biggest Mistakes of the US, China, and ASEAN ------------------Special thanks to our ‘Future Narrators’ YouTube channel members:Mariko Yoshihara, Yemotto IBRAHIM, hobi kluyuran, Fajar Prasetyo, Dyah Firgiani, keetkaat, Excel-lent, Arie Gunardi, Yayi Trisnawati D, Teddy Chow, Wwertyssnb, Alex Alex, Crispy_Cracker58, Priyanithi Dharsania Negara, Widi Aphrian, hndraable, Muhammad Taufik Evend

1 hr 1 min
Aug 27, 2025Episode 230
Story Behind Your Cup of Coffee at World’s Largest Coffeehouse Chain: Brady Brewer

A cup of coffee can tell you more about the world than you think. It can tell you about the soil of North Sumatra, the history of a Seattle coffeehouse, the dreams of a farmer’s daughter. In this episode, Brady Brewer, ceo, Starbucks International, takes us inside the global coffee company and shares about the importance of local relationships and cultural roots. Gita and Brady discuss about misinformation, the importance on managing climate challenges and nurturing climate resistant coffee trees and the power of coffee - how coffeehouses can bring people together and once again become the beating heart of society. Coffee connects. Coffee is our culture. Coffee starts conversations. #Endgame #GitaWirjawan #BradyBrewer______________________________________________________About the Guest:Brady Brewer is the CEO International of Starbucks. Since joining the company in 2001, he has held regional and global leadership roles in marketing, digital innovation, and operations based in the U.S. and Asia Pacific. As a certified Starbucks Coffee Master, he’s travelled to coffee farms in Costa Rica and Sumatra—an experience that deepened his passion for coffee and his commitment to building a sustainable future for coffee farming communities.About the Host:Gita is an Indonesian entrepreneur and educator. He is the founding partner of Ikhlas Capital and the chairman of Ancora Group. Currently, he is teaching at Stanford as a visiting scholar with Stanford's Precourt Institute for Energy.____________________________________________________The second year of Endgame Town Hall is coming soon!Get your tickets here:https://sgpp.me/endgametownhall-ticketsOr become part of this intellectual movement:https://sgpp.me/endgametownhall-partnershipCollaborations and partnerships:https://sgpp.me/contactus

1 hr 20 min
Aug 21, 2025Episode 229
Reynaldi Hermansjah: Pembangunan Daerah Bisa Rata Jika....

Pre-order buku 'What It Takes' sekarang di:https://sgpp.me/what-it-takes-yt______________________________________________Saya sering menyampaikan 5 atribut yang membuat Asia Tenggara ketinggalan dari Tiongkok selama 30 tahun terakhir ini.Salah satu atribut itu adalah infrastruktur—dan kali ini, saya diskusi panjang, lebar, dan dalam terkait topik tersebut bersama Reynaldi Hermansjah, Dirut PT SMI yang sudah lebih dari 30 tahun berkecimpung di sektor keuangan.Mengapa kita bahas dari perspektif keuangan? Karena mau apapun itu, ujung-ujungnya butuh ‘fulus’—termasuk membangun dan merawat infrastruktur yang sifatnya jangka panjang (atau yang Reynaldi sebut “marathon game”).Percakapan ini niche, tapi penting untuk bangsa ke depan. Penuh realisme, tapi juga optimisme sekaligus.Kalau Anda investor, episode ini harus Anda simak.Tentang host:Gita adalah seorang pengusaha dan pendidik asal Indonesia. Ia merupakan mitra pendiri Ikhlas Capital dan menjabat sebagai ketua Ancora Group. Saat ini, ia mengajar di Stanford sebagai peneliti tamu di Precourt Institute for Energy, serta menjadi fellow di Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, Harvard Kennedy School.Tentang pembicara:Reynaldi Hermansjah, seorang profesional di bidang keuangan dan infrastruktur yang telah menempati berbagai posisi strategis di perusahaan nasional dan internasional. Ia merupakan alumni Teknik Elektro Universitas Trisakti dan meraih gelar doktor di bidang Manajemen dari Universitas Pelita Harapan. Kariernya dimulai di Nomura Securities pada tahun 1991, dan ia pernah menjabat sebagai CFO di PT Jasa Marga serta Presiden Direktur di PT Indonesia Infrastructure Finance (IIF).#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #ReynaldiHermansjah___________________________________________________Tahun kedua Endgame Town Hall segera menantimu!Dapatkan tiketnya di:https://sgpp.me/endgametownhall-ticketsAtau jadilah bagian dari gerakan intelektual ini:https://sgpp.me/endgametownhall-partnership_________________________________________________Episode lain yang mungkin Anda sukai:https://youtu.be/Xi6USMoORB0?si=nyYfxy-SjskIyBN9https://youtu.be/cSt2cPYxYpw?si=-orGtAY8KTFV7aHphttps://youtu.be/xu7RsG54fLg?si=sYOQbtZG9ZaWyiUM

2 hr 15 min
Aug 13, 2025Episode 228
Wang Gungwu: Why the World Looks Like the World Today?

Pre-order Gita Wirjawan’s book, “What It Takes”, NOW:https://sgpp.me/what-it-takes-ytWhat makes civilizations rise, thrive, and sometimes vanish? How do geography, language, and ideas shape the destiny of nations? In this sweeping conversation, historian Wang Gungwu takes us on a 2,000-year journey—through the birth of the nation-state, the paradoxes of Southeast Asia, and the making of modern China.From the Abbasid Golden Age to Mongol conquests, from India’s gods to China’s bureaucracy, from Indonesia’s “miracle” to Singapore’s unlikely success—this is history as a map for the future. We talk about borders, culture, and the problem of succession; why civilizations fail when they can’t communicate; and how Southeast Asia can lead without imitating China or the US.It’s a masterclass in how the past shapes the present—and a call for the next generation to learn, adapt, and imagine a better world order.#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #WangGungwu__________________________________________________About Professor Wang Gungwu:Prof. Gungwu is a renowned historian and scholar of Chinese history and the Chinese diaspora. He is University Professor at the National University of Singapore and Professor Emeritus at the Australian National University. He has served as Vice-Chancellor of the University of Hong Kong and Director of the East Asian Institute at NUS, and is widely recognized as a pioneer in overseas Chinese studies and a leading voice in the study of China’s place in the world.About the Host:Gita is an Indonesian entrepreneur and educator. He is the founding partner of Ikhlas Capital and the chairman of Ancora Group. Currently, he is teaching at Stanford as a visiting scholar with Stanford's Precourt Institute for Energy; and a fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School's Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs.____________________________________________You might also like:https://youtu.be/rc5MI1qSMBUhttps://youtu.be/YvjuMn5XvZ8https://youtu.be/bh8l-nPH19wExplore and be part of our communityhttps://endgame.id/Collaborations and partnerships:https://sgpp.me/contactus

1 hr 6 min
Aug 6, 2025
Aaron "Ronnie" Chatterji - All You Want to Know About ChatGPT

In a time of rapid technological change and geopolitical fragmentation, who benefits from artificial intelligence—and who gets left behind?Ronnie Chatterji, Chief Economist at OpenAI and former White House coordinator for the CHIPS Act, joins Gita Wirjawan for a deep conversation about the real-world consequences of AI: on jobs, infrastructure, regulation, inequality, and the fragile promise of growth across the Global South.Ronnie reflects on what it means to apply economic thinking to one of the most consequential technologies of our time.#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #OpenAIAbout the Guest:Aaron “Ronnie” Chatterji, Ph.D., is OpenAI’s first Chief Economist. He is on leave as a Research Associate at the National Bureau of Economic Research and previously taught at Harvard Business School. Earlier in his career, he worked at Goldman Sachs and was a term member of the Council on Foreign Relations. Chatterji holds a Ph.D. from UC Berkeley and a B.A. in Economics from Cornell University.About the host: Gita is an Indonesian entrepreneur and educator. He is the founding partner of Ikhlas Capital and the chairman of Ancora Group. Currently, he is teaching at Stanford as a visiting scholar with Stanford's Precourt Institute for Energy; and a fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School's Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs.------------------------ Explore and be part of our community⁠ https://endgame.id/⁠---------------Collaborations and partnerships: ⁠https://sgpp.me/contactus⁠

1 hr 37 min
Jul 30, 2025Episode 226
Christian Busch: The Art of Serendipity: How to Cultivate “Smart Luck”

This episode is about how to create your own luck, featuring USC Marshall’s business professor and bestselling author, Christian Busch.#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #ChristianBusch---------------About the Guest: Christian is a German author, educator, and business professor at USC's Marshall School of Business. He is also an affiliate researcher at the London School of Economics, where he previously taught and co-directed the LSE Innovation Lab. His famous book is ‘The Serendipity Mindset’ (2020), proposing the idea that “good luck isn’t just chance”.About the Host:Gita is an Indonesian entrepreneur and educator. He is the founding partner of Ikhlas Capital and the chairman of Ancora Group. Currently, he is teaching at Stanford as a visiting scholar with Stanford's Precourt Institute for Energy; and a fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School's Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs.---------------You might also like:https://youtu.be/9eIMWmRG12whttps://youtu.be/dCEiC7W3Wywhttps://youtu.be/g8F5nd-eAyU---------------Explore and be part of our communityhttps://endgame.id/---------------Collaborations and partnerships:https://sgpp.me/contactus

1 hr 52 min
Jul 27, 2025Episode 225
Ashby Monk: Indonesia’s Big Bet? An SWF Expert Breaks Down Danantara

Ashby H. B. Monk talks about how global capital can be better directed toward solving long-term problems. Drawing from a background as a rower-turned-economist, Ashby reflects on how we must rethink investment philosophies in uncertain times. From the origins of sovereign wealth funds to the irony of having trillions in capital but no real education system for investing, this conversation dives deep into the heart of global finance and development.#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #AshbyMonkAbout the Luminary: Ashby Monk is a Senior Research Engineer at Stanford University and the Executive and a fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School's Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs.------------------------ Berminat menjadi pemimpin visioner berikutnya? Hubungi SGPP Indonesia di:⁠⁠https://admissions.sgpp.ac.id⁠⁠⁠⁠https://wa.me/628111522504⁠⁠Playlist episode "Endgame" lainnya:⁠⁠Technology vs Humanity⁠⁠⁠⁠The Take⁠⁠⁠⁠Wandering Scientists⁠⁠Kunjungi dan subscribe:⁠⁠SGPP Indonesia⁠⁠⁠⁠Visinema Pictures⁠

1 hr 18 min
Jul 24, 2025Episode 224
William Chueh: 1 Hour of Pure Academic Gold on Energy Transition

This episode revolves around two big questions: How can we scale up renewables? And how does Stanford approach the energy transition?About the Luminary:William Chueh is the Director of Stanford’s Precourt Institute for Energy, Professor of Materials Science and Engineering, of Energy Science and Engineering, and Senior Fellow at the Precourt Institute for Energy. His research focuses on energy storage, particularly materials for energy transformation, including batteries, fuel cells, and electrolyzers.About the host: Gita is an Indonesian entrepreneur and educator. He is the founding partner of Ikhlas Capital and the chairman of Ancora Group. Currently, he is teaching at Stanford as a visiting scholar with Stanford's Precourt Institute for Energy; and a fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School's Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs.------------------------ Berminat menjadi pemimpin visioner berikutnya? Hubungi SGPP Indonesia di:⁠https://admissions.sgpp.ac.id⁠⁠https://wa.me/628111522504⁠Playlist episode "Endgame" lainnya:⁠Technology vs Humanity⁠⁠The Take⁠⁠Wandering Scientists⁠Kunjungi dan subscribe:⁠SGPP Indonesia⁠⁠Visinema Pictures

1 hr 31 min
Jul 24, 2025Episode 223
Steven Koonin: Why Nuclear Energy Deserves A Comeback?

Where did the 2-degree limit come from? Why does nuclear energy deserve a comeback?In this episode, Steven Koonin discusses why it is “fundamentally immoral” for developed countries to dictate the climate agenda of developing nations, why electric vehicles are not a silver bullet, and how rushing to decarbonize could deepen global inequality.#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #StevenKooninAbout the guest:Steven E. Koonin is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and a University Professor at NYU. He is also a former Undersecretary for Science at the U.S. Department of Energy and Chief Scientist at BP. His work focuses on climate science and energy, and his bestselling book “Unsettled” (2021) calls for more transparency in climate discourse.About the host: Gita is an Indonesian entrepreneur and educator. He is the founding partner of Ikhlas Capital and the chairman of Ancora Group. Currently, he is teaching at Stanford as a visiting scholar with Stanford's Precourt Institute for Energy; and a fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School's Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs.------------------------ Berminat menjadi pemimpin visioner berikutnya? Hubungi SGPP Indonesia di:[email protected]⁠https://admissions.sgpp.ac.id⁠⁠https://wa.me/628111522504⁠Playlist episode "Endgame" lainnya:⁠Technology vs Humanity⁠⁠The Take⁠⁠Wandering Scientists⁠Kunjungi dan subscribe:⁠SGPP Indonesia⁠⁠Visinema Pictures

2 hr 30 min
Jun 17, 2025Episode 222
Eric Betzig: We're Killing Science with Politics

About Eric Betzig:Eric Betzig is a Professor of Molecular and Cell Biology at UC Berkeley, holding the Eugene D. Commins Presidential Chair in Experimental Physics. He is also a Senior Fellow at the Janelia Research Campus and an Investigator of the Howard Hughes Medical Institute. After earning his Ph.D. at Cornell and working at AT and a fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School's Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs.Explore this episode and be part of our communityhttps://endgame.id/Collaborations and partnershipshttps://sgpp.me/contactus

1 hr 50 min
Jun 4, 2025Episode 216
Chatib Basri: Kelas Menengah Digempur Ketidakpastian

Chatib Basri, ekonom senior Indonesia, membahas tantangan ekonomi Indonesia, termasuk ketimpangan kelas menengah, investasi asing, dan reformasi struktural untuk meningkatkan daya saing global. Ia juga menyoroti pentingnya pendidikan, digitalisasi, serta peran pemerintah dalam menciptakan kepastian hukum guna menarik investasi dan mendorong pertumbuhan ekonomi.Mantan Menteri Keuangan dan Ketua BKPM Indonesia tersebut kini mengajar di Departemen Ekonomi Universitas Indonesia serta menjabat sebagai Komisaris Utama Bank Mandiri serta Presiden Komisaris PT XL Axiata tbk. Dengan keahlian di bidang perdagangan internasional, makroekonomi, dan ekonomi politik, ia pernah menjadi Senior Fellow di Harvard Kennedy School, profesor tamu di berbagai universitas terkemuka, serta anggota dewan penasihat di World Bank, IMF, dan berbagai institusi global lainnya.#Endgame⁠ ⁠#GitaWirjawan⁠ ⁠#ChatibBasri⁠Catatan dan referensi tambahan episode ini:https://sgpp.me/eps216notesJelajahi dan jadi bagian dari komunitas kami:⁠⁠https://endgame.id/⁠⁠Untuk ajakan kolaborasi dan kerja sama, hubungi kami di sini:⁠⁠https://sgpp.me/contactus

1 hr 3 min
Jun 4, 2025Episode 213
Dominic Jermey: Defining Collaboration in a Multipolar World

Education, economy, and sustainability—where do we start to achieve Indonesia Emas 2045?Dominic Jermey (British Ambassador to Indonesia) emphasizes that collaboration is the key. From increasing the number of Indonesian students in the UK, tackling energy transition challenges, to attracting foreign investment, everything revolves around one thing: people. And a country like the UK stands ready to support this.A glimpse of hope—that Indonesia is not walking this path alone.#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #UnitedKingdom Explore and be part of our community ⁠https://endgame.id/⁠Collaborations and partnerships: ⁠https://sgpp.me/contactus

1 hr 26 min
Jun 3, 2025Episode 221
Jeep Kline: Thailand's First Silicon Valley Impact VC Talks Trump, Life After Intel

About Jeep Kline: Jeep is a venture capital and technology executive with over 20 years of experience. She has launched four VC funds and serves on multiple boards across the US and Asia. She is also an advisor at Berkeley SkyDeck, Alchemist Accelerator, and UCSF Health Hub. A former World Bank economist, she brings deep expertise in emerging markets and has co-founded a Latin American-focused VC fund. Jeep is the founding partner of Raisewell Ventures and was the first Thai woman to launch an impact VC fund in Silicon Valley.About Gita Wirjawan: Gita is an Indonesian entrepreneur and educator. He is the founding partner of Ikhlas Capital and the chairman of Ancora Group. Currently, he is teaching at Stanford as a Visiting Scholar at the Shorenstein Asia-Pacific Research Center (APARC); and a fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School's Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs.Explore and be part of our community ⁠https://endgame.id/⁠Collaborations and partnerships: ⁠https://sgpp.me/contactus

1 hr 36 min
May 15, 2025Episode 220
Dipo Alam: Aktivisme dan Diplomasi Syahdu

Dipo Alam, mantan Sekretaris Kabinet dan Ketua Institut Peradaban Indonesia, bercerita tentang perjalanan hidupnya, mulai dari aktivis kampus hingga keterlibatannya di dunia politik dan diplomasi. Beliau membagikan kisah bagaimana lukisannya menggerakkan emosi Ibu Negara Jepang, Akie Abe, hingga menitikan air mata, serta bagaimana batik karyanya diterima dengan hangat oleh Ratu Elizabeth II.Di balik layar diplomasi internasional, seni sering menjadi bahasa universal yang melampaui batas negara. Melalui pendekatan artistik, Dipo membuktikan bahwa diplomasi tidak melulu soal politik, tetapi juga tentang sentuhan kemanusiaan dan seni.Episode lainnya yang mungkin Anda sukai:• Tumbuhkan Nalar, Berdayakan Otak | Endgame HUT RI ft Emil Salim• Tanda Engkau Belum Siap Memimpin - Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono• Jusuf Kalla: Begini Tugas Wakil PresidenJelajahi dan jadi bagian dari komunitas kami:https://endgame.id/Untuk ajakan kolaborasi dan kerja sama, hubungi kami di sini:https://sgpp.me/contactus

1 hr 45 min
May 5, 2025
Julio Friedmann: All Climate Solutions Exist, And Yet…

We have everything we need to manage climate change: the technology, labour, and capital. What’s lacking is the collective will. Julio Friedmann challenges us to rethink the role of developed nations, the moral compass of money, and the need for inclusive, cooperative frameworks to create an abundant and just future.About Luminary: Dr. Julio Friedmann is one of the world’s leading experts in carbon technologies and clean energy transition. He previously served as Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary for Fossil Energy at the U.S. Department of Energy, overseeing R&D programs in carbon capture and storage (CCS) and CO₂ utilization. Currently, he is the Chief Scientist at Carbon Direct and a senior research scholar at Columbia University.About the Host: Gita Wirjawan is an Indonesian entrepreneur, educator, and Honorary Professor of Politics and International Relations at the School of Politics and International Relations, University of Nottingham. He is also a visiting scholar at The Shorenstein Asia-Pacific Research Center (APARC) at Stanford University (2022—2024) and a fellow at Harvard Kennedy School's Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs.Explore and be part of our community https://endgame.id/Collaborations and partnerships: https://sgpp.me/contactus

1 hr 26 min
Apr 30, 2025Episode 214
Mahfud MD dan Kekecewaannya Terhadap Hukum

Mahfud MD dan Gita Wirjawan membahas bagaimana kita dapat membangun negara lewat hukum. Juga menyentuh topik terkait korupsi, posisi hukum dalam demokrasi, prinsip keadilan hukum Islam, hingga pendidikan dan tatanan dunia.Mahfud MD adalah Guru Besar Hukum Tata Negara yang pernah menjabat sebagai Menteri Koordinator Bidang Politik, Hukum, dan Keamanan; Ketua MK; Anggota DPR; dan Menteri Pertahanan.#Endgame⁠⁠ ⁠⁠#GitaWirjawan⁠⁠ ⁠⁠#MahfudMD⁠Catatan dan referensi tambahan episode ini:⁠https://sgpp.me/eps214notes⁠⁠Jelajahi dan jadi bagian dari komunitas kami:⁠⁠⁠https://endgame.id/⁠⁠⁠Untuk ajakan kolaborasi dan kerja sama, hubungi kami di sini:⁠⁠⁠https://sgpp.me/contactus

1 hr 56 min
Apr 22, 2025Episode 218
dr. Tirta Mandira Hudhi: Baginya, Kepintaran Tidak Pernah Cukup

Dr. Tirta Mandira Hudhi dan Gita Wirjawan berdialog tentang bagaimana pendidikan, ego, privilege, dan pengalaman hidup membentuk karakter serta kontribusi seseorang terhadap masyarakat. Percakapan ini menyingkap peran keluarga, sistem pendidikan, dan nilai kerja keras dalam membentuk generasi cerdas dan tangguh—juga membahas realita dunia medis, tantangan menjadi anak tunggal, hingga pentingnya guru dan budaya membaca.Dr. Tirta adalah dokter, pengusaha, dan edukator publik yang dikenal karena kepemimpinannya di masa pandemi, inisiatif bisnis sosial, dan pendekatannya yang jujur serta reflektif terhadap isu-isu pendidikan, kesehatan, dan perubahan sosial.#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #drTirta #Edukasi #Kesehatan #Bisnis Catatan dan referensi tambahan episode ini:https://sgpp.me/eps218notesJelajahi dan jadi bagian dari komunitas kami:⁠⁠⁠https://endgame.id/⁠⁠⁠Untuk ajakan kolaborasi dan kerja sama, hubungi kami di sini:⁠⁠⁠https://sgpp.me/contactus

1 hr 7 min
Apr 18, 2025Episode 218
Jonathan Payne: How to Prevent Mass Extinction from Happening (Again)

In a rapidly shifting world, the intersection of geology and climate change is more critical than ever. As Jonathan Payne and Gita Wirjawan dive into this pressing issue, they challenge conventional wisdom and explore the path forward. Is mass extinction an inevitable consequence of our current trajectory? Or is there still a way to recalibrate our approach to preserving Earth's ecosystems?Join this thought-provoking conversation as we uncover the nuances, tackle the tough questions, and illuminate possible solutions.#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #JonathanPayne Explore and be part of our community ⁠⁠https://endgame.id/⁠⁠Collaborations and partnerships: ⁠⁠https://sgpp.me/contactus

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