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The name “Murdaugh” became known across the country, and even the world, in 2021 when Maggie and Paul Murdaugh were found dead on their family estate in South Carolina. Alex Murdaugh, husband to Maggie and father to Paul, was eventually convicted of killing them.In May 2026, the South Carolina Supreme Court overturned the double murder convictions, and a new trial date has yet to be set. Leoneda Inge talks to Wall Street Journal reporter Valerie Bauerlein about the latest developments.Later in the hour, we revisit a conversation with Bauerlein about her book "The Devil at His Elbow: Alex Murdaugh and the Fall of a Southern Dynasty."Valerie Bauerlein, reporter, The Wall Street Journal and author of The Devil at His Elbow: Alex Murdaugh and the Fall of a Southern Dynasty

0:01:00Federal worker job losses in the Triangle, one year after government cutsA conversation with journalist Abraham Kenmore, who recently wrote a piece for Indy Week titled “A Year After Federal Job Cuts, Workers in the Triangle Are Still Picking Up the Pieces.”Abraham Kenmore, freelance journalist0:13:00Chapel Hill Carrboro School closures A downward trend in public school enrollment coupled with conservative state spending across the last 15 years has left some districts facing difficult financial decisions. In Chapel Hill-Carrboro City Schools this could soon mean one fewer elementary school.Liz Schlemmer, education reporter, WUNC News0:33:0012th annual National Black Bear Festival held June 5-6 in PlymouthThe National Black Bear Festival returns to Plymouth, NC for its 12th year on June 5-6. Jeff Tiberii talks to founder and director Tom Harrison about North Carolina’s massive black bear population and what to expect from this year’s festivities.Tom Harrison, founder, director, National Black Bear Festival, director, Washington County Tourism

0:01:00Atlantic hurricane season begins in NC, below-average storms predictedAs Atlantic hurricane season begins, Due South talks to CBS 17 chief meteorologist Wes Hohenstein about what North Carolina can expect from this year’s forecasted storms.Wes Hohenstein, chief meteorologist, CBS 170:13:00The forecaster behind North Carolina's Weather AuthorityAtlantic hurricane season is underway, and Ethan Clark, owner and founder of North Carolina's Weather Authority, is ready for it. The recent North Carolina State University graduate has been forecasting since middle school, and he now has hundreds of thousands of online followers.Ethan Clark, owner and founder, North Carolina's Weather Authority0:33:00WUNC’s recommendations for an afternoon in Raleigh"Six Hours in Raleigh” is a guide made by WUNC’s Digital Team with recommendations for the best way to spend an afternoon in Raleigh, and for places that even locals might not know about.Josh Sullivan, social media producer at WUNC NewsLauren Rhodes, digital news intern at WUNC News

0:01:00Small food businesses are trending toward pop-ups, food stalls and social salesIndy Week’s Lena Geller talks affordable summer eats in interesting locations around the Triangle and how an increasingly challenging economic outlook is causing entrepreneurs to shift their business models.Lena Geller, staff writer, Indy Week0:13:00The Broadside: “The hype behind the world’s largest gas station”Buc-ee’s, the mega-sized gas station known for its pristine bathrooms, numerous snack options and cartoon beaver mascot, is expanding across the South. And it’s bringing with it a legion of cultish fans. But what’s with all the hype? And does the world really need a gas station the size of a Walmart with 20different flavors of beef jerky?Emily Cataneo, freelance journalist and contributor for The Assembly and Dale Edwards, managing editor for The News of Orange County0:33:00How independent gas stations survive in the Buc-ee’s eraPhotojournalist Kate Medley discusses a reporting visit to South Carolina, where independent gas stations, grocery stores and restaurants, have been managing business after the 2022 addition of the state’s first Buc-ee's. North Carolina’s first Buc-ee's is slated to open in 2027.Kate Medley, photojournalist, documentarian, author of Thank You Please Come Again: How Gas Stations Feed and Fuel the American South

On this week’s North Carolina News Roundup… State employees react to possible raises, major projects leave the two notable state attractions closed, the Governor wants to bar state employees from making some wagers, and the Hurricanes play for the Eastern Conference championship.Colin Campbell, Capitol Bureau Chief, WUNC NewsMary Helen Moore, reporter for Axios RaleighBryan Anderson, Statewide Politics Reporter for The Assembly, creator of the “Anderson Alerts” newsletterDawn Vaughan, Capitol Bureau Chief, The News & Observer

Due South speaks with former U.S. Senator Richard Burr. Burr spent 28 years in Congress – serving first in the U.S. House, before ascending to the upper chamber. Once there, he chaired the Senate Intelligence Committee, was a reliably conservative vote, and across three terms generally avoided controversy. In one of his final acts in office, he voted to convict President Donald Trump of incitement of insurrection - one of just seven Republicans to do so. Today, Burr is working at the Aspen Institute, with an aim toward improving education, as part of a bipartisan effort. Burr joins Jeff Tiberii to discuss his political career and much more.Richard Burr, U.S. Senator from North Carolina 2005-2023

0:01:00The Black Army Private who wouldn’t move to the back of the busSarah Keys Evans became an unwitting Civil Rights activist when she refused to give up her seat for a white Marine. She was on a bus that had crossed state lines into North Carolina, where in 1952, she was told to move to the back of the bus. In recent years, her story has become better known, partly thanks to a new book she co-wrote with author Amy Nathan.You can watch and listen to Sarah Keys Evans speaking with PBS NC for an oral history.Amy Nathan, co-author with Sarah Keys Evans of Riding into History: The Surprising Story of Sarah Keys Evans and the Fight to Desegregate Bus TravelErvin Griffin, one of the Roanoke Rapids educators who installed a monument honoring Sarah Keys Evans, president Emeritus of Halifax Community CollegeOphelia Gould-Faison, leader of the Sarah Keys Evans Public Art Project in Roanoke Rapids0:33:00Raleigh’s resident bald eagle family Raleigh’s lush greenspaces have always been a home to towering oak trees, but now feathered neighbors are taking the spotlight. In recent weeks, birdwatchers have flown to Lake Shelley Park in Raleigh to witness the newest member of a bald eagle family.Sean Gough, Land Stewardship Program Manager for the City of RaleighSydney Merrell, Invasive Species Program Assistant Coordinator for the City of Raleigh

0:01:00A new health education partnership seeks to address NC’s nursing shortage A new partnership between UNC Wayne Health and Scholars Network provides incentives for students interested in entering the field of nursing. For years, the state has struggled with a substantial nursing shortage, with more than 17,000 nurses needed over the next decade to meet the demands of the state’s aging and growing population.Dr. Sam Maron, founder, Scholars Network0:13:00Day One Relief aims to reach those most in need, following natural disastersA Durham-based organization founded in the wake of 2018’s Hurricane Florence provides emergency aid to communities that are least likely to be prioritized, including rural and low-income communities and communities of color.Jil Christensen, founder, president/CEO, Day One ReliefCourtney Patterson, board chair, Day One Relief0:33:00A look back at HB-2Ten years ago, North Carolina was embroiled in the battle over HB-2 – also known as “the bathroom bill.” Rev. Dr. MacHenry Schafer II and Katy Schafer are the parents of Hunter Schafer -- now a famous actress and model. Back in 2016, Hunter was one of the plaintiffs in a lawsuit challenging the law. Leoneda Inge talks with Mac and Katy about how their faith guided their advocacy for Hunter and the other plaintiffs, and how they look back at the impact of HB-2.Rev. Dr. MacHenry Schafer II and Katy Schafer, parents of Hunter Schafer

0:01:00Food & Wine Editor Kat Kinsman remembers K&W CafeteriaKat Kinsman’s favorite chain restaurant, and one of Leoneda Inge’s favorites, was a unique spot with a rotating menu of southern staples, including fried okra, congealed salads, and a dizzying number of pies. (This Due South encore presentation originally aired February 11, 2026.)Kat Kinsman, Executive Features Editor at Food & Wine and host of its Tinfoil Swans podcast.Read Kat's full story "The Last Tray at K&W Cafeteria."0:13:00‘The curious case of George Masa’The Great Smoky Mountains National Park and the Appalachian Trail form the backbone of the easternportionof the US National Parks system. Together, they welcome 15 million visitors every year. But theylikely wouldn'texist as we know them today, if itweren'tfor the work of a pioneering photographer in North Carolina named George Masa. This week, we find out how an immigrant from Japan became the eyes of the American conservation movement and unearth the dark secrets that motivated his life’s work. This episode of The Broadside was hosted by Anisa Khalifa and produced by Jerad Walker. More from The Broadside and ‘The curious case of George Masa’Paul Bonesteel, documentary filmmakerand co-author of the book George Masa: A Life ReimaginedMami Kikuchi, researcher and translator0:33:00‘Our Common Nature’ podcast explores journey to restore mountain’s Cherokee name“Our Common Nature” podcast host Ana González goes on a musical and historical journey through the Smoky Mountains with cellistYoYoMa. Ana tells the story of Lavita Hill, a member of the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians, and her quest to restore the Cherokee name to the tallest mountain in the Smokies. (This Due South encore presentation originally aired November 12,2025.)Ana González, host, “Our Common Nature”

On this week’s North Carolina News Roundup...The White House wants a $1.8 billion dollar “anti-weaponization” fund — part of which would go to help January 6 rioters. Republican Senator Thom Tillis provided some harsh pushback on that proposal. We’ll also get caught up on a busy ballot initiative week at the state legislature. Due South host Jeff Tiberii and a panel of local journalists provide context and analysis from those and other stories from the week.Zachery Eanes, reporter, Axios RaleighClaudia Rivera Cotto, Political Reporter, Enlace Latino NCAdam Wagner, reporter/editor covering state politics for the North Carolina Newsroom Danielle Battaglia, congressional impact reporter for The News & Observer and The Charlotte Observer

0:01:00Why a property tax cap amendment will be on the ballot this NovemberOne of the constitutional amendments state Republican leaders have worked to get on the ballot this November is a property tax cap, limiting the taxes that localities can impose on property owners. Jeff Tiberii talks with a reporter, law professor and a citizen activist about the proposal.Paul Specht, state government reporter, WRAL Marcus Gadson, Associate Professor of Law, University of North Carolina Law SchoolKim Mackey, social studies teacher teaching Economics and Personal Finance, author of the blog educatEDpolicy0:33:00A NC state government reporter reflects on a career covering the General AssemblyLongtime Associated Press reporter Gary Robertson has left his post at the North Carolina statehouse. Gary sits down with Jeff Tiberii for an exit interview of sorts to talk about what’s changed and what hasn't in his decades of journalism in our state.Gary Robertson, longtime Associated Press North Carolina politics & statehouse reporter

0:01:00What dismantling the Voting Rights Act means for North CarolinaNorth Carolina Supreme Court Associate Justice Anita Earls discusses the history of the Voting Rights Act and the implications of recent measures to dismantle what remains of the landmark legislation.Anita Earls, North Carolina Supreme Court Associate Justice0:13:00Two generations of state representatives discuss the recent U.S. Supreme Court decision on the Voting Rights ActFollowing the U.S. Supreme Court’s recent decision to dismantle Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act, Leoneda Inge speaks to Rep. Valerie Foushee and retired Rep. Eva M. Clayton about the impact and next steps.Valerie Foushee, U.S. representative for North Carolina's 4th congressional districtEva M. Clayton, U.S. representative for North Carolina’s 1st district from 1992-20030:33:00State Senator Natalie Murdock talks politics in a post-VRA North CarolinaState Senator Natalie Murdock discusses the work ahead for Gen Z voters, the first generation in decades to come of age and enter the workforce in a post-Voting Rights Act landscape.Natalie Murdock, State Senator representing North Carolina’s 20thdistrict

0:01:00Bennett College, one of only two women’s HBCUs, celebrates its centennialLeoneda Inge talks to Dr. Teresa Hardee, interim president of Bennett College about the current state and future intentions of the country’s only women’s HBCUs, as it celebrates its centennial anniversary.Dr. Teresa Hardee, interim president, Bennett College0:13:00Duke University Press marks centennial with exhibition, commemorative reprintLeoneda Inge sits down with Dean Smith, director of Duke University Press, to discuss its legacy as a cutting-edge, progressive academic press and its 100thanniversary celebrations.Dean Smith, director, Duke University Press0:33:00Andrew Bird’s 20thanniversary album tour makes its way to GreensboroGrammy-nominated folk musician Andrew Bird is embarking on a symphony tour in celebration of the 20thanniversary of his third solo album, Andrew Bird & The Mysterious Production of Eggs. The tour will bring him to the Greensboro Symphony on May 31. He talks about his decades-long career in music and what it’s like to revisit one of his earliest solo works.Andrew Bird, singer, songwriter, musician

0:01:00Mecklenburg County’s own Declaration of Independence?May 20, 1775, is a date you may recognize from the North Carolina state flag. It represents what was supposedly the first declaration of independence made by any of the 13 colonies involved in the American Revolution. That date was added more than a century ago, but its authenticity was first contested by Thomas Jefferson and John Adams. This conversation originally aired on May 20, 2025.Scott Syfert, author of ‘The First Declaration of Independence? The Disputed History of the Mecklenburg Declaration of Independence of May 20, 1775'0:13:00‘We (The People of The United States)’As the United States turns 250 years old, a new book of poetry pays tribute to Black historical figures across the country and the centuries. Poet and professor Joshua Bennett talks with Due South’s Leoneda Inge about his poem “Chapel Hill, North Carolina” for George Moses Horton, the first African American man to publish a book in the South.Joshua Bennett, Professor of Literature and Distinguished Chair of the Humanities at MIT and writer of the new poetry collection "We (The People of The United States)"0:33:00‘New Americans in North Carolina’An educator and oral historian with the Department of Natural and Cultural Resources talk about "America 250 NC" and their project about “New Americans in North Carolina.”Alana Gomez, Educator, America 250 NC, N.C. Department of Natural & Cultural ResourcesJohn Horan, Oral Historian, State Archives of North Carolina, N.C. Department of Natural & Cultural Resources

Live from the Outer Banks... A budget deal has been reached — will it actually end North Carolina’s stint as the only state without an approved budget? Then, a turn toward the coast — from tourism and infrastructure to beach renourishment and climate change, we check in with three local reporters about the stories that dominate the headlines on the OBX.Colin Campbell, Capitol Bureau Chief, WUNC NewsSam Walker, Editor-In-Chief, SamWalkerOBXNews.com and News Director, 99.1 The SoundCorinne Saunders, Editor, Outer Banks InsiderJoy Crist, Editor, Island Free Press

0:01:00North Carolina’s prisons face a crisis of staffing and fundingNorth Carolina’s 55 prisons are operating at minimum staffing, in a steep funding deficit. The state’s Department of Adult Correction is in need of an updated budget that accounts for the growing and aging prison population. WUNC News’ Colin Campbell updates Due South on the current state of the carceral system. This Due South encore conversation originally aired April 15, 2026. Colin Campbell, Capital Bureau Chief, WUNC News0:13:00Former inmate and recidivism reduction activist Kerwin Pittman’s journey to success Kerwin Pittman spent more than 11 years in the North Carolina prison system. With the support of family, he was able to navigate the re-entry process upon his release, becoming a recidivism reduction activist in the process. Eight years after his release, Pittman has become the first formerly incarcerated person in the United States to purchase a prison campus. This Due South encore conversation originally aired April 15, 2026. Kerwin Pittman, founder of Recidivism Reduction Educational Program Services, Inc.0:33:00The creators of 'Ear Hustle,' the first podcast produced in prisonEar Hustle is the first podcast produced in prison. It’s brought stories from life inside to international audiences. It’s been a finalist for two Pulitzer Prizes. Jeff Tiberii talks with the creators, Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor. This Due South encore conversation originally aired August 6, 2025.Earlonne Woods, co-host of the Ear Hustle Podcast, which he started while serving 31 years to life at San Quentin State Prison in 2017Nigel Poor, visual artist and co-host of Ear Hustle

0:01:00Drought, tariffs, and other factors contribute to farming crisis in NCNorth Carolina farmers are dealing with an array of challenges from an ongoing drought to federal policy decisions impacting the agriculture industry. Jeff Tiberii talks with reporter Phoebe Zerwick about her piece Farming is in crisis for the newsletter ‘Down from DC.’Phoebe Zerwick, co-author, Down from DC0:13:00The latest on the Dean Dome sagaAn update on the future of the Dean Dome, which has faced considerable pushback from the Carolina basketball family. Jeff Tiberii talks with two local reporters who have been following the developments closely.Korie Dean, higher education reporter at The AssemblyBrendan Marks, reporter at The Athletic0:33:00Gerrymandering is nothing new, but may get worseGerrymandering is not new. Though, in the wake of a recent Supreme Court decision, it might be getting worse. Jeff Tiberii talks with Billy Ball, a writer for progressive news site Cardinal & Pine, about gerrymandering and its impacts in Virginia and the South.Billy Ball, founder, TheLivingSouth.com and senior editor, Cardinal & Pine

0:01:00What film leaders think about the state's incentivesAfter incentives for the film industry dried up in NC, many productions took their work to Atlanta. But the director of the North Carolina Film Office says there’s still an industry here, and a storied history of filmmaking.Guy Gaster, Director of the North Carolina Film Office, which promotes the state to possible productions and studios0:13:00New documentary follows the path of a NC jazz legend Yusuf Salim trio. (1420x1110, AR: 1.2792792792792793)Moonchild: The Life and Music of Yusuf Salim follows the jazz pianist and composer through six decades in the music world. From Philadelphia to North Carolina.It has a focus on Durham, which the film’s director calls Salim’s ‘chosen hometown.’ And includes footage from Salim's show on PBS NC "Yusuf and Friends."Kenny Dalsheimer, Director of Moonchild: The Life and Music of Yusuf Salim, documentary filmmaker and editor who’s been making films since 19960:33:00Durham film studio owners are working to open an arthouse cinemaThe co-owners of an independent film studio in Durham called Shadow Box Studio are making film, but they’re working to open a small cinema, too. Leoneda Inge speaks with the duo about their inspiration, their work, and their hopes for Durham’s film scene.Jim Haverkamp, proprietor of Shadowbox Studio in Durham, and a freelance editor and filmmakerAlex Maness, proprietor of Shadowbox Studio in Durham and a photographer, filmmaker, and projection designer

0:01:00A conversation about new book ‘White Care: The Impact of Race on American Infrastructure’“Infrastructure” is one of those public policy words that gets thrown around a lot — and for many of us, it doesn’t mean much beyond “roads and bridges.” But, as Cotten Seiler explains, infrastructure is about much more than concrete. It’s about the goods and services that support our communities.Seiler’s new book “White Care: The Impact of Race on American Infrastructure” explores how infrastructure was deliberately diminished over decades in the 20th century to keep certain groups from accessing it.Cotten Seiler, Professor of American Studies at Dickinson College and Resident Associate at the National Humanities Center in Durham0:33:00Public swimming pool access dried up in Columbus County, NC: a legacy of 'racism, rural decay, and lost opportunity.'Border Belt Independent reporter Ben Rappaport talks with Due South co-host Leoneda Inge about a story he reported in partnership with The Assembly called “The Abandoned Pools of Columbus County.” It’s a story of economics, rural decay and racism. (This encore interview originally aired September 3, 2024.)Ben Rappaport, reporter, Border Belt Independent

On this week’s North Carolina News Roundup...The state legislature has reached a bustling pitch – considering a moratorium on some tax changes, making confidential NIL agreements, and a social media ban for some teens.A potential major healthcare merger is on the table in the Triangle. One North Carolina congressman is under investigation. And Charlotte’s mayor will soon step down.Due South host Jeff Tiberii and a panel of local journalists provide context and analysis from those and other stories from the week.Laura Leslie, editor, NC NewslineClaudia Rivera Cotto, state political reporter, Enlace Latino NCBryan Anderson, NC politics reporter, The AssemblyEly Portillo, executive editor, WFAE in Charlotte

0:01:00Solar power's ever-changing role in North Carolina's energy gridNorth Carolina was once an emerging national leader on the solar power front. But disincentives, policy changes and a hold on new projects have changed the solar power landscape. A conversation about energy costs and possible solutions for the future.Liz McLaughlin, climate change reporter, WRALMatt Abele, Executive Director, NC Sustainable Energy Association0:33:00Reflecting on residential solar panelsResidential solar panels are becoming more common on rooftops in North Carolina. But they are still a big financial stretch for most people. Leoneda Inge talks with a couple who got panels installed several years ago about how they look back on their decision. And, the president of a local solar panel company joins the conversation to talk credits, incentives, and the nuts and bolts of home solar power systems.Dan and Saritha Vermeer, residential solar panel customersKarl Stupka, President and Chief Operations Officer, NC Solar Now

0:01:00How to navigate complicated emotions during Mother’s Day weekendDue South's Leoneda Inge chats with a family therapist, who offers advice and recommendations for navigating grief and loss around the holiday. (This Due South encore conversation originally aired May 9, 2024.)Dr. Kristen Wynns, founder and owner of Wynns Family Psychology and author of The No Wimpy Parenting Handbook0:13:00‘Mothering at the End of the World’ explores 'surreal' experience of caregiving in aftermath of Hurricane HeleneEven under the best circumstances, parenting can be stressful. So, when natural disasters upend a community’s sense of safety, security, and routine, the impact on families can be particularly profound. (This Due South encore conversation originally aired May 7, 2025.)Gray Chapman, writer based in AtlantaErin Brethauer, director, cinematographer and photographer based in Asheville0:33:00Boundary-pushing comedian Moms Mabley honored in her hometown of Brevard, NCMoms Mabley was born in Brevard, NC in 1897. By the mid-20th century, she was one of the biggest names in standup comedy. But her hometown has been slow to publicly recognize her historic career achievements. The tides of recognition seem to be slowly turning now. (This Due South encore conversation originally aired May 9, 2024.)Lisa Rab, freelance investigative journalist and author of the maternal health newsletter, Overdue

0:01:00The first woman to lead North Carolina’s State Employees’ Credit UnionThe first woman to head the nation’s second-largest credit union talks overcoming failure, learning to lead, and the growth of female representation in banking. Due South's Leoneda Inge has an extended conversation with the woman at the helm, Leigh Brady. (This Due South encore conversation originally aired January 14, 2026.)Leigh Brady, President and CEO of the North Carolina State Employees’ Credit Union (SECU)0:33:00State and federal policy, and public knowledge, are behind on moldHumidity and heat in the South are creating another housing problem: mold. Multidisciplinary researchers at Duke University are collaborating to understand mold’s impact on human health. Two BPR reporters and a Duke researcher join Due South. Their article for Grist is titled "A hotter, wetter South is becoming a breeding ground for mold." (This Due South encore conversation originally aired March 5, 2026.)Asiya Gusa, microbiologist who works with the Duke Climate and Fungi Research Group (CLIF)Laura Hackett, Helene Recovery Reporter at Blue Ridge Public RadioKatieMyers, reports on climate change in Appalachia through a partnership between Grist and Blue Ridge Public Radio

0:01:00Drought conditions persist across North CarolinaNorth Carolina is experiencing its driest season in nearly 20 years. WCNC Chief Meteorologist Brad Panovich talks about the drought, how it compares to past record dry seasons in North Carolina and what to expect in the weeks to come. Brad Panovich, chief meteorologist, WCNC in Charlotte0:13:00The Broadside: Where have all the Black farmers gone?A little over a hundred years ago, there was an abundance of Black farmers in the U.S., and the vast majority of them farmed in the South. But today, less than 2% of farmers are Black, and what was once a flourishing vocation in Black America has now become something of a novelty. Yet despite decades of decline and documented discrimination, Black farmers are finding ways to thrive as they inspire the next generation of growers.Shirlette Ammons, creator of the podcast series TendingAallyah Wright, rural issues reporter for Capital B News0:33:00NC farmer who bought the land where his ancestors were enslavedIn 2021, Warren County farmer Patrick Brown bought the plantation where his ancestors were once enslaved. He’s working to build a just and sustainable food system, to enrich both the soil and his community, on land once used to extract and exploit. (This encore interview originally aired January 15, 2025.)Patrick Brown, farmer and manager of Brown Family Farms and owner of Connect Group, LLCRelated: Read a piece in The Bitter Southerner about Patrick Brown titled “Black Earth.”

On this week’s North Carolina News Roundup... It’s May Day – and tens of thousands of educators have convened in Raleigh, calling for better pay and support from the legislature. The Voting Rights Act was further gutted – a look at what that means for our state. One local university files for bankruptcy. And we get the latest from a busy week in state politics. Due South host Jeff Tiberii and a panel of local journalists provide context and analysis from those and other stories from the week.Liz Schlemmer, education reporter, WUNC NewsZachery Eanes, reporter, Axios RaleighDanielle Battaglia, congressional impact reporter for The News & Observer and The Charlotte ObserverWill Michaels, Senior Reporter for State Issues at NC Local

An extended version of this Due South conversation originally aired April 9, 2026.From layoffs to AI to social media, the ever-changing news landscape impacts both journalism organizations and consumers.Co-host Jeff Tiberii talks with North Carolina news industry experts about the past, present and future of local media in our state.Marisa Porto, Director of the Center for Innovation and Sustainability in Local Media and Knight Chair, Hussman School of Journalism and Media, UNC-Chapel HillShannan Bowen, Founder & CEO, NC LocalGlenn Burkins, Founder and Publisher, QCity MetroJosh Bergeron, Government Editor, The Charlotte ObserverPaul Hunton, President and General Manager, WUNC News

0:01:00For Hayti residents, affordable housing redevelopment is long overdueA revitalization project focused on the long-overlooked historically Black community of Hayti in Durham is still fighting for affordable housing for residents. Henry McKoy, director emeritus of the project, Hayti Reborn, joins Due South to discuss planning efforts and obstacles. (This Due South encore conversation originally aired February 23, 2026.)Henry McKoy, president and CEO of Carolina Community Impact and director emeritus of Hayti Reborn7:30Habitat for Humanity of Orange County seeks to address growing affordable housing needsBuying a home in Orange County is becoming increasingly prohibitive. Housing prices are on the rise, as wages stagnate. Habitat for Humanity of Orange County is working to address a growing need for affordable housing throughout the county and particularly in Chapel Hill. (This Due South encore conversation originally aired February 23, 2026.)Jennifer Player, president and CEO, Habitat for Humanity of Orange County22:00Ali Siddiq brings his brand of anecdotal comedy to DurhamAward-winning standup comic Ali Siddiq is bringing his latest tour to Durham on May 1. Due South’s Leoneda Inge talks to him about his life, career and his approach to storytelling and humor.Ali Siddiq, writer, public speaker and stand-up comedian

0:01:00What Friday’s educator march is all aboutSeveral school districts have changed their calendars so school will be out on Friday, clearing the way for educators to attend the march in Raleigh.It’s organized by the North Carolina Association of Educators, which says the goal is to demand more spending on education.Liz will be joining Due South's NC News Roundup on Friday live from Raleigh where she'll be covering the march.Liz Schlemmer, is the K-12 Education Reporter at WUNC News0:08:35NCMA exhibit celebrates teachers’ art“The Creative Lives of Educators” is now on display at the North Carolina Museum of Art. It features original artwork by educators from across the state, and poses the question: “How do educators make space for creative practices in their life outside of teaching?”Leoneda Inge speaks with two art teachers about having their work on display at the NCMA, how they hone their craft, and the joy of sharing the creative process with students. And both share the deeper meaning and significance behind their paintings.Brandi Criscitiello, is the art teacher at White Oak High School in Jacksonville, NC. Criscitiello’s piece is “The Heartbeat of America” 1968 El Camino, acrylic on wood with cedar frame.Quintin Neal, teaches at Bugg Elementary School in Wake County. Neal’s piece is “Life in Bloom-Sunflower.”It's the last week to see this exhibit, so check it out soon https://ncartmuseum.org/exhibitions/the-creative-lives-of-educators/.0:23:51Paula Poundstone on being polite and politicalComedian Paula Poundstone returns to Due South for a conversation about finding humor in challenging times, engaging politics onstage and trimming down her overweight rescue cat Larry.(This Due South encore conversation originally aired October 29,2025.)Paula Poundstone, humorist, author, regular contributor to NPR’s WaitWait…Don’tTell Me! and host of Nobody Listens to Paula Poundstone

This encore edition of Due South originally aired in April 2024.As the weather warms, many animals emerge — including snakes. Co-host Leoneda Inge talks with a reptile conservation biologist to find out where snakes are likely to be, how they behave and how to love them from afar.Jeff Hall, reptile conservation biologist, North Carolina Wildlife Resources CommissionThen, what to do if you are bit by a venomous snake? Our guest today says first, stay calm, and then seek medical care.The number of deaths associated with snake bites in the U.S. is relatively low, in part because of access to anti-venom — but the treatment is expensive. Dr. Charles Gerardo is working on a cheaper, more accessible way to treat snake bite. He talks with co-host Jeff Tiberii about how to respond to a snake bite now – and how that treatment might change in the future.Charles J. Gerardo, MD, MHS, Chair, Department of Emergency Medicine and Professor, Emergency Medicine & Global Health, Duke University

The General Assembly is back in session and lawmakers still face a budget impasse. A deal was reached on closing the $319 million Medicaid shortfall – it includes immigration checks and work requirement provisions. And, what does the future looks like for a proposed property tax referendum? Plus, a playoff update on those Canes. We’ll cover all that and more on this week’s North Carolina News Roundup.Claudia Rivera Cotto, Political Reporter, Enlace Latino NCMary Helen Moore, Reporter, Axios RaleighBryan Anderson, Statewide Politics Reporter for The Assembly, creator of the “Anderson Alerts” newsletter

0:01:00Author and voice actor Sarah Vowell Sarah Vowell was an early contributor to This American Life, before she became a voice actor, and the author of several books. She speaks with Leoneda Inge ahead of an event for Durham County Library on April 23.Sarah Vowell, author, former longtime contributor to This American Life, voice actor for Violet in the Disney animated series The Incredibles.Vowell speaks Thursday, April 23. Details here: https://durhamcountylibrary.libcal.com/event/164700040:25:36The North Carolina Youth Tap Ensemble takes the stageThe NCYTE has been going strong for more than 40 years. Jeff Tiberii speaks with the current Artistic Director, who was once a member of the ensemble herself, about the history of the ensemble, and how she intends to keep it growing.Emily Shoemaker, Artistic Director of the North Carolina Youth Tap EnsembleFind details about the North Carolina Youth Tap Ensemble's performance on April 25 here: https://www.ncyte.org/up-next

0:01:00Brigid Washington’s new memoir explores culinary education and cultural identityA new memoir pulls back the curtain on what it’s like to study at the nation’s top culinary school, the Culinary Institute of America. Trinidad native food writer Brigid Washington talks about her time as a student at NC State, the role that Raleigh played in her culinary career and working with the James Beard Foundation.She'll be discussing and signing her new book, Salt, Sweat & Steam: The Fiery Education of an Accidental Chef on April 28 at Quail Ridge Books. Brigid Washington, food writer, vice chair of the James Beard Foundation Journalism Committee and author of the new memoir, Salt, Sweat & Steam: The Fiery Education of an Accidental Chef0:23:00Comedian Alonzo Bodden talks aviation, family and comedyAlonzo Bodden is a comedy veteran with more than 20 years in the stand-up game. A frequent guest on NPR’s Wait Wait…Don’t Tell Me!, Bodden got his start in aviation before pivoting to a career in humor. (This Due South encore conversation originally aired December 17,2025.)Alonzo Bodden, stand-up comedian and actor

0:01:00The do's and don'ts of municipal recyclingRecycling has been around a long time and faces relatively little pushback compared to more politically-charged sustainability efforts. Still, recycling has its obstacles, including that it's hard to know what's recyclable and what's not. As Bianca Howard of Wake County Solid Waste Management Division says, "there is nothing intuitive about recycling."This Earth Week on Due South, three waste management experts demystify municipal recycling.Bianca Howard, Outreach & Marketing Supervisor, Wake County Solid Waste Management DivisionMuriel Williman, Senior Assistant Solid Waste Manager, City of Durham Waste Disposal and Recycling CenterShauna Taylor, customer service representative, Shimar RecyclingRelated: Recycling guidelines for Durham, Orange County and Wake County0:33:00The ReCollective steps in where recycling falls shortBryce Brooks follows the old adages “reduce, reuse, recycle” and “one person’s trash may be another’s treasure.” She’s the co-founder of The ReCollective, a service that collects hard-to-recycle items and finds them new homes, keeping them out of the landfill and supporting local businesses by providing needed materials.Bryce Brooks, co-founder, The ReCollective

This Due South encore episode originally aired June 25, 2025.0:01:00Digging in to the economic and environmental benefits of recycling in North Carolina   A consistent practice of recycling and reusing materials maintains the state’s recycling infrastructure and stimulates a circular economy. We talk to Matt James of the North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality about ways to strengthen individual and community recycling practices across the state.Matt James, Recycling Program Analyst, NC Department of Environmental Quality0:13:00At The Scrap Exchange, secondhand goods turn into first-rate creationsWhen Heather Anne first walked into Durham's The Scrap Exchange, she thought to herself: "I've never been in a place like this before." The organization's dedication to creative reuse of secondhand items, community building, and environmentalism resonated for her, and Heather soon became a Scrap Exchange regular.She eventually became an employee and led the organization through some changes, but at least one thing remains the same — inside the Scrap’s barrels and bins of leftover fabric, yarn, broken jewelry and "glorious junk" are countless opportunities for someone’s creativity to turn cast off old items into something new.Heather Anne, former Interim Executive Director at The Scrap Exchange0:33:00One reporter gets to the bottom of college student leftoversINDY Week reporter Lena Geller salvaged $6,000 worth of luxury items from Duke students moving out of her apartment complex. She also found that Duke donates and tracks significantly more than similar private universities in the U.S.Lena Geller, Staff Writer at INDY Week. Read her piece I Salvaged $6,000 of Luxury Items Discarded by Duke Students. Why Did It Make Me Feel So Terrible?

On this week’s NC News Roundup... water restrictions set to go into effect on Monday in Raleigh, severe drought conditions impact more than 20 percent of the state, and a legislative hearing tackles ongoing concerns over Medicaid funding and fraud.Colin Campbell, Capitol Bureau Chief, WUNC NewsDawn Vaughan, Capitol Bureau Chief, The News & Observer Zach Eanes, reporter, Axios RaleighSarah Michels, NC elections and statehouse reporter, Carolina Public Press

0:01:00‘Hyperscale, Hyperspeed,’ a new reported series on the data center boom in North CarolinaData centers are popping up across North Carolina. As some communities welcome them and others consider moratoriums, journalists from BPR, the NC Newsroom, WFAE, and WUNC News explore the data center boom and its impact on our state.Due South talks with three reporters who worked on the collaborative reporting project “Hyperscale, Hyperspeed: Inside the Data Center Boom Reshaping NC Communities.”Katie Myers, reports on climate in Appalachia for Blue Ridge Public Radio and GristAdam Wagner, Editor and Reporter, NC NewsroomZachary Turner, Climate Reporter, WFAE0:33:00NC’s latest transportation news with Richard StradlingOne of the state’s foremost transportation reporters has the latest on western North Carolina’s Hurricane Helene recovery, updates to potential train and rail projects, and the possible impact an extended blockade of the Strait of Hormuz would have on gas prices here.Richard Stradling, Transportation Reporter, The News & ObserverRelated: Read Richard Stradling's articles about federal support for Triangle transit agencies and RDU expansion.

0:01:00North Carolina’s prisons face a crisis of staffing and fundingNorth Carolina’s 55 prisons are operating at minimum staffing, in a steep funding deficit. The state’s Department of Adult Correction is in need of an updated budget that accounts for the growing and aging prison population. WUNC News’ Colin Campbell updates Due South on the current state of the carceral system.Colin Campbell, Capital Bureau Chief, WUNC News0:13:00Former inmate and recidivism reduction activist Kerwin Pittman’s journey to success Kerwin Pittman spent more than 11 years in the North Carolina prison system. With the support of family, he was able to navigate the re-entry process upon his release, becoming a recidivism reduction activist in the process. Eight years after his release, Pittman has become the first formerly incarcerated person in the United States to purchase a prison campus.Kerwin Pittman, founder of Recidivism Reduction Educational Program Services, Inc.0:33:00Full Frame Documentary Film Festival takes offDue South speaks with the Co-Festival Director of Full Frame on the legacy of the festival, along with the Southern and North Carolina film selections screening during this year’s fest.Sadie Tillery, Co-Festival Director and Artistic Director, Full Frame Documentary Film Festival

We’re all too familiar with the phrases by now: “constitutional crisis,” “slide toward authoritarianism” and “erosion of the rule of law.”Today, Due South delves into what those words really mean — and what’s at stake for our nation — with two local legal experts.Our conversation begins with the Honorable Allyson K. Duncan. When Judge Duncan was a child growing up in Durham, she spent afternoons after school at North Carolina Central University's law library, where her mother worked.While Duncan watched future lawyers study, a seed was planted that grew into a career of firsts, including being the first African American woman to serve on the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit.Now retired from the federal bench, she talks with co-host Jeff Tiberii about challenges she sees today to the separation of powers and the rule of law.Then, a conversation with constitutional law professor Marcus Gadson about his book, ‘Sedition: How America’s Constitutional Order Emerged From Violent Crisis’, and what constitutes a constitutional crisis.GuestsAllyson K. Duncan, retired federal judge, United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit; member, Keep Our Republic’s Article III CoalitionMarcus Gadson, Associate Professor of Law, Associate Professor of Law, University of North Carolina Law School

0:01:00A look at the inner lives of North Carolina’s political wivesThe Assembly’s Billy Warden discusses his discoveries about the lives of North Carolina’s political spouses in a candid profile that includes interviews with First Lady Anna Stein and Susan Tillis, wife of Sen. Thom Tillis. (This Due South encore conversation originally aired March 24, 2026.)Billy Warden, marketing specialist, writer, contributor to The Assembly0:13:00The Broadside: ‘The Secret Game’In March of 1944, two basketball teams in North Carolina played perhaps the most important game that nobody has ever heard of. It was the first unofficial interracial college basketball game in the Jim Crow South. And it remained a secret for half a century.Scott Ellsworth, author of “The Secret Game: A Wartime Story of Courage, Change, and Basketball’s Lost Triumph”This episode of The Broadside was produced by Charlie Shelton-Ormond and edited by Jerad Walker.0:33:00Durham’s Oscar Diaz sizzles on ‘Top Chef’ Chef Oscar Diaz is known around town for Little Bull, a Michelin-recommended restaurant in Durham. But around the country, he’s known as a “cheftestant” on the current season of ‘Top Chef’ – filmed in Charlotte, NC and Greenville, SC. Co-host Leoneda Inge talks to Diaz about how he spins the food of his childhood, his travels, and the Triangle into flavors that are both new and familiar.Oscar Diaz, chef and owner, Little Bull and several other North Carolina restaurants

The state says Wake County Public Schools didn’t provide adequate transportation for students with disabilities after a WUNC News investigation, an N.C. State graduate circles the moon, and UNC-Chapel Hill hires a new basketball coach. Due South host Jeff Tiberii and a panel of local journalists provide context and analysis from those and other stories from the week.Bryan Anderson, Reporter, The Assembly and the Anderson Alerts newsletterZachery Eanes, Reporter, Axios RaleighLiz Schlemmer, Education Reporter, WUNC NewsAdam Wagner, Reporter/Editor covering state politics for the North Carolina Newsroom

From layoffs to AI to social media, the ever-changing news landscape impacts both journalism organizations and consumers. On Local News Day, co-host Jeff Tiberii talks with North Carolina news industry experts about the past, present and future of local media in our state. Marisa Porto, Director of the Center for Innovation and Sustainability in Local Media and Knight Chair, Hussman School of Journalism and Media, UNC-Chapel HillShannan Bowen, Founder & CEO, NC LocalGlenn Burkins, Founder and Publisher, QCity MetroJosh Bergeron, Government Editor, The Charlotte ObserverPaul Hunton, President and General Manager, WUNC News

0:01:00Price hikes expected at Duke EnergyDisconnections are up, and rates are on a steady incline at Duke Energy. As customers bear the rising cost of heating, cooling and power across the state, the NC Utility Commission holds public hearings to field questions and concerns.Zachary Turner, climate reporter, WFAE0:13:00Well, I Declare celebrates 'America at 250,' North Carolina styleA new production reimagines the Declaration of Independence, as part of a nationwide series of 'America at 250' celebrations.Dawn Landes, singer, songwriter and Mike Wiley, playwright, actor, assistant professor of Research and Arts, Ethics and Education at Duke University.0:33:00PlayMakers marks final show of the 2025-26 season with ‘Steel Magnolias’ A beloved classic drama about family, sisterhood, joy and grief makes its way to PlayMakers Repertory Company. Leoneda Inge talks to the stars of 'Steel Magnolias.'Thursday Farrar, guest actor, Broadway performer Julia Gibson, resident company actor with PlayMakers for 13 seasons and head of the Professional Actor Training Program at UNC-Chapel Hill

0:01:00Duke Gardens is about to open. Here’s what visitors should know.A new entrance to the Sarah P. Duke Gardens is finished. The day before reopening, Due South’s Leoneda Inge speaks with the head of the Gardens to talk about how to visit, and what you can expect now that the project is complete.Bill LeFevre, Executive Director of Sarah P. Duke Gardens0:13:00North Carolina woman Ciji Graham died while waiting for an abortionGraham, a Greensboro police officer, had heart problems, and in the past her chronic condition had been treated by cardioversion. But a doctor didn’t offer the treatment because of a positive pregnancy test. ProPublica is investigating Graham’s, and other women’s, deaths related to tightening abortion laws following the overturning of Roe v. Wade. Lizzie Presser, covers health and social policy at ProPublica where she won the 2025 Pulitzer for public service along with several reporters who covered deaths related to abortion laws. The article discussed in this segment is titled, "A Pregnant Woman at Risk of Heart Failure Couldn’t Get Urgent Treatment. She Died Waiting for an Abortion." 0:33:00Checking in on Duke’s oral history project from health care workers in a post-Roe AmericaHow the health care landscape has changed in the two years since Leoneda Inge first spoke with Dr. Beverly Gray about the end of the legal right to abortion after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade.Dr. Beverly Gray, Professor of Obstetrics and Gynecology at Duke University Medical Center, one of the leaders of the Abortion Care Today oral history project, and the co-host of a podcast about abortion access called Outlawed.

0:01:00The future of Research Triangle ParkThe growing popularity of remote work is one challenge. Cuts to federal research funding is another. But those are only two threats to the future of Research Triangle Park, the flagship business park that helped inspire the region’s “Research Triangle” name over the last half century. Leoneda Inge speaks with a reporter who’s keeping track of RTP’s planned changes, and whether they will come to pass.Kayli Thompson, Senior Reporter at the Triangle Business Journal and author of the recent article, “RTP at a Crossroads.”0:13:00Two men who designed RTP on how it all came togetherA new exhibit at the Museum of Durham History tells the story of Research Triangle Park, in some ways the heart of the Research Triangle. Leoneda Inge speaks with two men who helped plan the project.John Atkins III, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of O’Brien/Atkins Associates, a multidisciplinary design services firm he co-founded in 1975Robert Teer Jr., real estate planner and developer, and a lifelong resident of Durham. He’s served on the NC Turnpike Authority Board since 2003.0:33:00Research Triangle Park today How leaders at RTP are trying to be more than just a business park. Leoneda Inge speaks with two leaders involved in planning, and programming to make that happen. Including Boxyard RTP, a plaza with restaurants and small businesses on the campus.Travis Crayton, Vice President of Planning and Public Policy Research Triangle ParkKelly Propst, Vice President of Marketing and Communications Research Triangle ParkThis episode of Due South first aired in February.

We're airing a group of specials of the new public radio show Click Here this week, and we're excited to hear your thoughts. For more about the show, check out Leoneda Inge's interview with Click Here host Dina Temple-Raston.Due South will be back with our regularly scheduled programming on Monday, April 6. Talk soon!

There have been major leadership changes in North Carolina this week. At the General Assembly, the longtime Republican Senate leader Phil Berger conceded following a fierce, close primary battle. In Chapel Hill, there's now an opening at one of the most prestigious college basketball programs in the country. All that and more on this week's North Carolina News Roundup, live from the NC News & Information Summit at NC State's McKimmon Center in Raleigh.Dawn Vaughan, Capitol Bureau Chief, The News & ObserverMary Helen Moore, Reporter, Axios RaleighEly Portillo, Executive Editor, WFAEFelicia Sonmez, Growth/Development reporter, Blue Ridge Public RadioDane Huffman, Managing Editor, Triangle Business JournalMitchell Northam, Reporter, USA Today

0:01:00Host of Click Here on what to expect during a week of specials airing on WUNCLeoneda speaks with Dina Temple-Raston, host of Click Here — which will air as a special on WUNC the week of March 30.Dina Temple-Raston, host of Click Here a public radio show from PRX and Recorded Future News0:13:00Tips on managing size, weight and nutrition from a childhood obesity specialistDeciding what each child in a household should eat – and how weight should be discussed with each child – can be challenging. Jeff Tiberii sits down with pediatrician Dr. Joey Skelton for tips on managing and discussing health, diet and weight within families.Dr. Joey Skelton, board-certified pediatrician and obesity medicine specialist at Wake Forest University School of Medicine, and author of Your Child Is Not Their Weight: Parenting in a Size-Obsessed World0:33:00How a Jeopardy! star got his start in North CarolinaAs a kid in Weddington, NC, Drew Goins watched Jeopardy! with his family during dinner and counted his correct answers on his fingers. When he started needing both hands to keep track, he might have known he had a future on the show.Goins is now a Jeopardy! winner and uses his love of trivia to guide his work as The Atlantic’s trivia guy.Drew Goins, a senior editor focused on trivia and other creative projects at The Atlantic

0:01:00HBCU 101: Vote Jesse Vote!Student activism is on the rise at North Carolina A&T State University where students like Olu Rouse and Shia Rozier are fighting for voting rights — just like the late Rev. Jesse Jackson, who was student body president at NC A&T.Olu Rouse and Shia Rozier, students at North Carolina A&T State University0:13:00The voting rights legacy of Reverend Jesse JacksonToday, we look back at the life and voting rights impact of Reverend Jesse Jackson, who passed away last month. Bishop William J. Barber II was Rev. Jackson’s friend and confidant. He shares his memories of Jackson and explains Jackson’s unique ability to reach and unite voters across the “rainbow.”Bishop William J. Barber II, President of Repairers of the Breach, Founding Director of the Center for Public Theology and Public Policy at Yale Divinity School, Co-Chair of the Poor People’s Campaign0:33:00‘We (The People of The United States)’As the United States turns 250 years old, a new book of poetry pays tribute to Black historical figures across the country and the centuries. Poet and professor Joshua Bennett talks with Due South’s Leoneda Inge about his poem “Chapel Hill, North Carolina” for George Moses Horton, the first African American man to publish a book in the South.Joshua Bennett, Professor of Literature and Distinguished Chair of the Humanities at MIT and writer of the new poetry collection "We (The People of The United States)"

0:01:00A look at the inner lives of North Carolina’s political wivesThe Assembly’s Billy Warden discusses his discoveries about the lives of North Carolina’s political spouses in a candid new profile that includes interviews with First Lady Anna Stein and Susan Tills, wife of Sen. Thom Tillis.Billy Warden, marketing specialist, writer, contributor to The Assembly0:13:00The theft of a fake Picasso painting is the subject of a new bookWhit Rummel joins Due South to discuss the lore his family safeguarded for years – for their own safety. His new book, The Accidental Picasso Thief: The True Story of a Reverse Heist, Outrunning the FBI, and Fleeing the Boston Mob tells the story of how his family came to be in possession of a famous painting allegedly heisted by members of the Boston mob.Whit Rummel, screenwriter and author of The Accidental Picasso Thief0:33:00Charlotte Symphony music director Kwame Ryan on his 20-plus-year career and recent Grammy winWhen director Kwame Ryan arrived at the Charlotte Symphony at the start of the 2024-25 season, he came with international experience, a Cambridge University education and a robust background in opera and symphonic music. Since his arrival, he has become the first Black conductor to win a Grammy for Best Opera Recording. Kwame Ryan, Grammy Award-winning conductor and music director for the Charlotte Symphony

0:01:00Why UNC wanted to allow secret classroom recordings, and why leaders changed their mindsFor a couple weeks, a policy allowing university administration to secretly record professors was in effect. Now, UNC-Chapel Hill has backtracked after detractors shared concerns about free speech rights.Brianna Atkinson, Higher Education reporter WUNC News0:13:00The Broadside: Our hidden Space Race historyFrom Huntsville to Houston, the space industry in the US is rooted in the South. And as NASA works towards returning to the moon with the Artemis program, our space history is inspiring new generations of Americans. But in North Carolina, two important sites from the Space Race of the 1960s remain relatively unknown.This episode of The Broadside was hosted by Jerad Walker and produced by Charlie Shelton-Ormond.Cliff Bumgardner, director and producer at PBS North CarolinaBrett Tingley, managing editor atSpace.com0:33:00NASA Astronaut and NC native Christina KochWe're lifting off today with Astronaut Christina Koch. She grew up here, graduated from the North Carolina School of Science and Math, then NC State, and today works for NASA. Koch has spent more than 300 days at the International Space Station and is preparing for a lunar mission on NASA's Artemis II. Christina Koch talks training, outer space food, and common questions she gets. This interview originally aired May 6, 2024.Christina Koch, NASA AstronautRelated:WUNC News: Christina Koch is headed to the moon, exactly like she dreamed she would