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Big Hearted Indy - The Citizen 7 Podcast

Citizen 7·Hosted by Greg Enas, Don Palmer and Chris Spangle·38 episodes

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Big Hearted Indy is the Citizen 7 podcast about genuine friendship, big-hearted service, and forming whole leaders in Indianapolis. Hosts Greg Enas, Don Palmer, and Chris Spangle sit down with men who are building, mentoring, serving, and leading across Indianapolis. If you want deeper friendships, a clearer sense of purpose, and practical examples of leadership shaped by service, you’re in the right place. Visit our websitefor more: www.citizen7indy.com Also included are special talks given at C7 events.

Why listen

Big Hearted Indy is a locally rooted conversation show about friendship, service, faith, and leadership in Indianapolis. Hosts Greg Enas, Don Palmer, and Chris Spangle bring together civic leaders, pastors, entrepreneurs, nonprofit builders, and mentors for practical stories about building stronger relationships and serving a city well. It is a strong fit for listeners who like faith-informed leadership conversations with a clear local identity.

Episodes

1 hr 4 min
May 25, 2026
Greg Ballard and Joe Loftus on Friendship within Leadership, Indianapolis and the Secretary of State Race

Greg Ballard built one of Indiana's most unlikely political careers, winning the Indianapolis mayor's race as a near-total unknown against a heavily favored incumbent. Now he's running for Indiana Secretary of State as an independent, and the coalition that helped him govern is rallying behind him again. Ballard, a 23-year Marine Corps veteran and author of "The Last Urban Republican Mayor," joins attorney and political strategist Joe Loftus for a candid conversation about how they built a city government from scratch, why Indianapolis punches above its weight on civic collaboration, and what has gone wrong in Indiana's political system. Loftus, who previously served under Mayor Steve Goldsmith and spent decades at Barnes & Thornburg, explains how he assembled a transition team, recruited talent, and handed Ballard a complete governing blueprint two days after an election almost no one expected him to win. The two discuss pre-K funding, the water and wastewater transfer to Citizens Energy, the city's long-running sports strategy, transit equity, and why cross-partisan relationships, not ideology, define effective local government. Ballard also lays out his case for opening Indiana's ballot access, ending straight-ticket voting, and pursuing a Voter's Bill of Rights as part of his Lincoln Party candidacy. For information on signing the ballot petition, visit gregballard.com or ballardontheballot.com. To get involved with Big Hearted Indy and the Citizen 7 community, visit citizen7indy.com.

57 min
May 12, 2026
Too Busy for Purpose: Peter Greer and Scott Pothoven on Comfort, Calling, and Showing Up

Peter Greer, president of HOPE International, and financial advisor Scott Pothoven join the Big Hearted Indy hosts to discuss what it takes to stay on mission, personally and organizationally, in a world designed for distraction and comfort. Greer traces his path from studying in Moscow to leading one of the world's leading Christ-centered microfinance organizations, now serving more than 3.8 million families across 30 nations and approaching its two-billionth dollar of investment. He reflects on the lessons behind his books "Mission Drift" and "Lead With Prayer," including why organizations and individuals drift, and why a culture of prayer is the first defense against it. Pothoven shares what a trip to Rwanda revealed about relationship-driven development, including a Rwandan entrepreneur who grew from a $20 loan to a $20,000 loan over a decade, and savings groups where members contributing the equivalent of 30 cents pooled resources to care for one another. Both guests speak candidly about the tension between striving and Sabbath, the danger of comfort, and what the global church can teach communities in Indianapolis about shared meals, generosity, and genuine belonging. Join the email list and find upcoming events, including the Restored Family cohort and the May 13 Coffee and Connection on mentoring, at citizen7indy.com.

30 min
May 11, 2026
What Are People For? With Pastor Chris Henry

Human connection is eroding quietly, and the tools promising to replace it cannot deliver what people actually need. Chris Henry, senior pastor of Second Presbyterian Church, makes the case that presence, usefulness, and committed community are not optional features of a well-lived life but its essential structure. Henry draws on thinkers including Wendell Berry, theologian David Bentley Hart, sociologist Mark Dunkelman, and researcher Jennifer Wallace to diagnose what he calls the anti-social century: a moment when convenience has become a substitute for commitment, digital companions simulate belonging, and young men in particular are being sold connection in forms that cannot deliver it. The talk moves from personal vulnerability, Henry's own reckoning over whether to attend his grandmother's funeral, to a theological argument rooted in the concept of the Imago Dei, to three direct pieces of pastoral advice for leaders: guard your experiences of deep formation, rebuild your middle ring of relationships, and find tangible ways to be useful to others. Henry closes with a question he refuses to leave rhetorical: there is someone in your life right now waiting to hear that they matter. Go find them. Chris Henry is senior pastor of Second Presbyterian Church.

36 min
Apr 16, 2026
Honor God in the Grind: Faith, Failure, and Entrepreneurship With Phil Daniels and Darrian Mikell

Two Indianapolis entrepreneurs share what surrendering business outcomes to God actually looks like, including the failures they didn't see coming and the peace they found afterward. Phil Daniels, a founder, investor, and co-author of "Spiritugraphics" and Darrian Mikell, co-founder of Qualify, an HR tech startup he recently sold, join host Drew Kelley for a candid panel conversation on identity, ambition, and vocational faithfulness. Daniels reflects on building a company steeped in Christian values that still ended in disappointment for employees and investors, and how that experience now equips him to guide founders through their own difficult chapters. Mikell opens up about a brutal 2023 that included personal failings, a serious car accident, multiple rounds of layoffs, and the moment he stopped trying to control the outcome. Together, they discuss what it looks like to root identity in Christ rather than in professional accomplishment, the discipline of documenting God's faithfulness in real time, how the Lord's Prayer shapes daily decision-making, and why the path to meaningful work is rarely linear. Both men are wired for ambition. The conversation is about what happens when that ambition gets submitted to something larger than a business plan. Recorded live at Meridian Hills Country Club as part of the Honor God in the Grind Growth Session series, this gathering is designed for men in sales, business development, ministry, fundraising, and entrepreneurship.

1 hr 6 min
Apr 12, 2026
Mark & David Muselman on Brotherhood, Faith, and Building Indiana

Two brothers building workforce housing across Indiana share how faith, family, and friendship shape every aspect of their work and lives. Mark Muselman, president and CEO of M2 Investments, and David Muselman, president of DJM Investments, grew up in Bern, Indiana, attended Taylor University, and have both planted roots in Indianapolis with a clear mission: provide attainable, quality housing in markets that need it most. In this conversation with host Greg Enas and Chris Spangle on Big Hearted Indy, the brothers trace their upbringing in a Swiss-heritage small town, the founding of a church that now draws 1,500 people weekly, and how their parents modeled open-handed generosity from the start. They discuss how they use apartment communities as a mission field, why they pursue what Mark calls "attainable luxury" housing in secondary Indiana markets, and how proximity, compounding relationships, and unreasonable hospitality have defined their lives in Indianapolis. The conversation also covers the state of young men, marriage, and community, including why brotherhood requires intentional effort, why loneliness is a growing threat, and why both brothers believe Indianapolis offers a rare combination of opportunity and accessibility that few cities can match. Mark and David Muselman are under 35, bullish on Indiana, and convinced that relationships are life's greatest currency.

57 min
Mar 17, 2026
Andrew Hart and Glenn McDonald on Leadership Across Church, School and Business

Glenn McDonald and Andrew Hart discuss how their unlikely friendship has shaped their leadership across Indianapolis's nonprofit, business and faith communities. McDonald, who founded Zionsville Presbyterian Church and served there for 28 years, and Hart, who leads Oaks Academy after starting at Eli Lilly and Company, explore how relationships between clergy and lay leaders can enhance both personal growth and community impact. The two men talk about their shared commitment to serving underresourced communities, the importance of intentional friendships, and practical ways to cultivate joy and purpose in leadership. This episode of the Big Hearted Indy podcast features hosts Greg Enas, Don Palmer and Chris Spangle in conversation about friendship, service and forming whole leaders in Indianapolis. Sign up for Glenn's morning reflections here: https://glennsreflections.com/

1 hr 24 min
Mar 13, 2026
Staying Human with AI: A Practical Workshop for Business Leaders with Jayson Manship

Jayson Manship, founder of Generation Moonshot and host of the Authentic and Agentic podcast on the IBJ Media Podcast Network, leads a hands-on workshop for Indianapolis-area business leaders on using artificial intelligence practically and responsibly. Manship draws on his background in national politics, digital marketing and entrepreneurship to walk attendees through real-world AI tools including Claude, ChatGPT, Replit and Cursor. He demonstrates how to build custom business applications, automate daily workflows and use AI agents to handle tasks ranging from financial transaction tracking to email management, all with minimal technical experience. The session also tackles the harder questions: job displacement, data privacy, AI ethics and what it means to stay human as these tools grow more powerful. Manship references the Notre Dame Institute for Ethics and the Common Good's Delta framework as a guide for thinking through AI's impact on dignity, relationships and human agency. It was hosted by Citizen 7 at Polk Stables in Indianapolis, and Jayson is introduced by Greg Enas.

39 min
Mar 12, 2026
Honor God in the Grind: Ben Lacher on Faith, Failure and Building Ben's Garage in Brownsburg, Indiana

Ben Lacher, founder of Ben's Garage in Brownsburg, Indiana, joins Drew Kelley and Jackson Troxel on the Honor God in the Grind podcast. Lacher shares how he went from fixing junk dirt bikes as a homeschooled kid to working on a top fuel NHRA race team, flipping houses, going broke after a failed online business and driving a semi-truck on the midnight shift while his wife had their first child. He talks about how that difficult season crushed his ego and deepened his relationship with God, leading him to open Ben's Garage in May 2021 with one lift and his own tools. Now with 12 employees and up to 500 cars a month, Lacher discusses the leadership lessons he learned after firing around 30 people in his first two years, the mindset shift from using people to grow his business to using his business to grow his people, and how his faith and his wife Katie keep him grounded. He also shares how his involvement in the Praxis program and the C7 community shaped his view of redemptive entrepreneurship and kingdom impact in the automotive industry. Ben is also the author of a children's book, “Ben Does An Oil Change” available at https://www.bensgarageautomotive.com/about-us/.

1 hr 12 min
Feb 25, 2026
Advancing the City Series: Fatherhood Panel

In this ACT (Advancing the Community Together) Series panel on fatherhood, Darren Ho of Restored Leader moderates a conversation on how faith, community and mentorship can help dads navigate the joys and pressures of parenting. Panelists Larry Smith of Fathers and Families Center, Mitch Davis of Mission Uprising and Micah Davis of Avevo Rx share practical perspectives on presence, vulnerability, patience, co-parenting and setting boundaries between work and family. The discussion also explores the impact of absent or disengaged fathers and why intentional relationships can provide a roadmap for men who want to grow as husbands and dads.

28 min
Feb 18, 2026
Dr. D. Michael Lindsay on Servant Leadership, Humility and the KNEEL Framework

Dr. D. Michael Lindsay, president of Taylor University, shares a faith-rooted approach to servant leadership built around the KNEEL framework. He contrasts resume virtues with eulogy virtues, points to Christlike self-emptying humility, and explains how leaders can build unity of purpose, treat work as worship, extend loving kindness, and offer life-giving encouragement. Lindsay brings these ideas to life with stories from Christian higher education leadership, a major campaign effort, his family’s experience with “Ms. Pinky,” and a season of public pressure while leading Gordon College.

59 min
Feb 10, 2026
Honor God In The Grind: Christian men on building, identity and consistency in work

Citizen 7 launches the Honor God In The Grind series with a panel discussion on how everyday work becomes a place of spiritual formation, faithfulness and encounter with God. Hosted by Drew Kelley, the conversation focuses on building and creating without letting performance or productivity define identity. Panelists Troy Williard, Dante Cook and Jackson Troxel share personal stories from engineering, entrepreneurship, sales, media and leadership, reflecting on how discipline, consistency and long-term faithfulness shape vocation and character. The discussion explores how seasons of pressure and transition can refine purpose rather than diminish it. The group returns to the idea that work is a primary arena where God forms men through responsibility and service. The session introduces a broader framework for integrating faith and work through four pillars: Create, Grow, Transform and Serve, with this conversation emphasizing Create. The discussion concludes with a call to faithfulness in both visible success and unseen daily effort, encouraging men to see their work as a calling rather than just a job. Books and authors mentioned John Mark Comer - The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry - Practicing the Way Jamie Winship - Living Fearless Jordan Raynor - Called to Create - Redeeming Your Time Ray Vander Laan - Bible teaching series and studies bringing Scripture into historical and cultural context Mark Batterson James Clear - Atomic Habits

1 hr
Jan 29, 2026
Robert Vane on Mentorship and the Leaders and Legends Who Built Indianapolis

Big Hearted Indy hosts Greg Enas and Chris Spangle talk with Indianapolis native Robert Vane about the story behind his Leaders and Legends podcast, his path from Irvington and the Army to politics and communications, and the mentors and civic leaders who shaped his work. Vane shares memories of his first episode with former Mayor Greg Ballard, stories about P.E. McAllister and bipartisan relationships, and why collaboration across Indianapolis has mattered for decades.

1 hr 1 min
Dec 29, 2025
John Isch and Jim Fountain: The Friday Bible Study That Has Lasted 32 Years

Citizen 7 Indy hosts Don Palmer and Chris Spangle talk with lifelong friends John Isch and Jim Fountain about discipleship, humility, and building real brotherhood. Isch shares his path from northeast Indiana to a career in heart surgery at St. Vincent, and how spiritual mentors shaped his faith. Fountain recounts a hard reset after getting kicked out of college, his years in Young Life, and the challenge of moving from ministry to the marketplace. The conversation explores why their long-running Friday Bible study has endured, why many men feel isolated, and practical ways to take initiative in friendships. They close with how to get involved with Citizen 7 Indy groups and events in 2026.

57 min
Dec 18, 2025
Vop Osili and Jay Height on Neighborliness, Housing & Hope

On Big Hearted Indy, hosts Greg Enas, Chris Spangle and Don Palmer talk with Indianapolis City-County Council President Vop Osili and Shepherd Community Center Executive Director Jay Height about friendship, faith in action and building a more connected city. Osili shares how his grandparents’ example of dignity and his father’s integrity in public service shaped his leadership, along with how architecture and public policy can strengthen neighborhoods. Height reflects on decades of work on Indianapolis’ east side, the epidemic of loneliness, and practical ways neighbors can serve one another through presence, hospitality and shared responsibility. The conversation explores housing stability, preserving existing homes, supporting seniors, responding to food insecurity during the SNAP disruption, and how churches and civic groups can step up locally. Height also explains Shepherd Community Center’s Poverty 101 program and how organizations can use it to better understand the complexity of poverty. Big Hearted Indy is produced by Citizen 7 and focuses on authentic friendship, service and leadership in Indianapolis.

49 min
Nov 15, 2025
Inside CoinCoffee: How Two Friends Are Using Premium Coffee to Support Indiana Nonprofits

On this episode of Big Hearted Indy, hosts Greg Enas, Don Palmer, and Chris Spangle sit down with CoinCoffee co-founders Andre Ramsey and Ken Julian to explore how a simple cup of coffee turned into a purpose-driven partnership. Andre shares his journey from East St. Louis to Indianapolis, while Ken reflects on his west side Indy roots, founding Julian Coffee Roasters, and discovering his passion for mission work. Together, they explain how their friendship formed, how their shared faith shapes their work, and how CoinCoffee is helping local organizations like Kids Voice Indiana and Pike Township schools raise funds through custom coffee collaborations. Hear their vision for impact, the challenges they face in today’s coffee market, and how nonprofits can get involved in this no-cost model.

33 min
Nov 4, 2025
Mitch Daniels on Leadership, Humility, and the Power of Friendship

Former Indiana Governor and Purdue University President Mitch Daniels joins Citizen 7’s Coffee & Connection for a candid fireside chat on leadership, humility, and civic renewal. Daniels reflects on lessons from history, mentors such as Calvin Coolidge, and his experiences leading Eli Lilly, Purdue, and the state of Indiana. He shares personal stories about culture, friendship, and the importance of local action to strengthen communities.

56 min
Oct 13, 2025
How Edna Martin Christian Center and Shepherd Community Center Empower Indy’s East Side

Four years ago, a bold idea took root: what if philanthropy could break down barriers rather than create dependency? That idea sparked a powerful partnership between Edna Martin Christian Center and Shepherd Community Center, helping Eastside Indy neighbors move from just any job to better jobs — and into lasting careers. In this special live episode of Big Hearted Indy, hosts Greg Enas, Don Palmer, and Chris Spangle talk with Brittany Keno (Edna Martin) and Andrew Green (Shepherd) about their collaborative “barrier-busting” approach, how faith drives their community work, and what happens when organizations serve with neighbors, not for them. Hear real stories of transformation, the impact of Citizen 7’s job fund, and why relationship—not handouts—is the key to lasting change.

1 hr
Oct 12, 2025
Sam Odle and Mike Smith on the Seven Essentials to End Poverty, Faith, Leadership, and Friendship

At this Citizen 7 After-Hours Fireside Chat, civic leaders Sam Odle and Mike Smith share powerful stories of leadership, faith, and friendship that have shaped Indianapolis for decades. Odle, former COO of IU Health and IPS board member, reflects on his 76 years in the city—from growing up in segregated Indianapolis to helping build one of the nation’s leading health systems. Joined by longtime friend and former Anthem CFO Mike Smith, the two discuss poverty, mentorship, healthcare reform, civic renewal, and the importance of cross-racial relationships and community trust. Hear their wisdom on the “seven essentials” to rise out of poverty, how faith shapes their leadership, and why building social capital is the key to helping Indianapolis flourish.

26 min
Sep 29, 2025
Pastor Aaron Brockett on Biblical Masculinity and What It Means to Be a Man

Aaron Brockett, lead pastor of Traders Point Christian Church in Indianapolis, shares a message on biblical masculinity, strength under control, and the cultural challenges men face today at our most recent Coffee & Connections. Drawing on Scripture, real-life examples, and personal stories, he contrasts harmful, diluted masculinity with redemptive, directed masculinity. Brockett unpacks the call to “be a man” from 1 Kings 2, explores the core struggles of men, and points to Jesus as the model for authentic manhood. Join us at the next one: https://citizen7indy.com/#rec736856881

1 hr 4 min
Sep 1, 2025
Kristian Andersen and Thad Cockrell on friendship, risk, music and ‘The Kid’

Hosts Greg Enas and Chris Spangle sit down with Kristian Andersen, co-founder of High Alpha, and Nashville singer-songwriter Thad Cockrell for a raw, live conversation about friendship, courage, and community in Indianapolis. Andersen shares how decades-long bonds—born at a Christian sports camp—shaped his life and leadership, while Cockrell explains why he made The Kid and sells it directly for $99, pushing back on music-industry economics after a Tonight Show break sparked by Jimmy Fallon. Plus: why vulnerability fuels real relationships, how risk builds grit, and where to buy The Kid (thadcockrell.com).

52 min
Aug 30, 2025
Gina Fears on Martindale-Brightwood’s future: Youth, faith and the 2025–2030 quality-of-life plan

Hosts Aaron Story and Greg Enas sit down at COhatch Polk Stables in Indianapolis with community leader Gina Fears, Peer Innovation Manager at Mental Health America Indiana’s ICAADA, MHAI Stanley W. DeKemper Training Institute. Fears shares her roots near 36th and Ralston, reflects on Martindale and Brightwood history, and explains how faith, active listening and resident engagement drive the 2025–2030 Martindale-Brightwood Quality-of-Life Plan. She highlights youth engagement— including a student film, The Sound of Love—and a strong focus on mental health. The conversation touches on partners such as Edna Martin Christian Center, KIPP, neighborhood associations (including One Voice), and how residents can join monthly priority meetings and town halls. Fears notes the plan is certified by the city and available via the Department of Metropolitan Development. 00:00 Welcome & Introductions 03:00 Meet Gina Fears: Community Roots 06:00 Life in Martindale-Brightwood: Family & History 13:00 Overcoming Challenges & Building Business 18:00 Community Transformation: Railroads & Resilience 24:00 The Power of Relationship-Building 29:00 Youth Engagement & The Sound of Love 34:00 Quality of Life Plan: Vision & Priorities 40:00 Resident Engagement & Community Challenges 45:00 Churches, Asset-Based Approaches, and Neighborhood Ownership 49:00 Journey to Joy: Faith & Final Reflections 51:00 Closing Thoughts & Next Steps

56 min
Aug 13, 2025
Bob Grand and Mandy Pietrykowski on Little Red Door: Fighting Cancer with Care, Camp, & Community

On this episode of Big Hearted Indy, hosts Greg Enas, Chris Spangle, and Don Palmer talk with Bob Grand and Mandy Pietrykowski, CEO of Little Red Door Cancer Agency, about the nonprofit’s mission to serve medically underserved Hoosiers with cancer. They discuss the impact of programs like transportation assistance, nutrition support, and Camp Little Red Door, as well as the personal stories that fuel their passion for making the most of life and the least of cancer.

47 min
Jul 13, 2025
Darren Ho and Wes Cate on Helping Men Flourish

In this special episode of Big Hearted Indy, hosts Don Palmer, Chris Spangle, and Greg Enas welcome executive coaches Darren Ho and Wes Cate for a deep conversation on how men can grow into lives of meaning, purpose, and impact. They discuss how personal character shapes leadership, marriage, and community life—and why coaching, mentorship, and friendship are essential for flourishing in today’s world. Through vulnerable stories and practical insights, Wes and Darren explore how to navigate life’s inflection points, build habits of presence and rest, and stay grounded in identity while leading others. The group also introduces two new cohort groups launching this fall through Citizen 7, designed to help men grow in marriage, family, and transitions. 🕒 Chapters: 00:00 – Introduction: A New Season of Big Hearted Indy 02:10 – Don on “Zinger Questions” That Shape Us 06:04 – Meet Wes Cate: From Curiosity to Coaching 10:45 – Darren Ho’s Cross-Cultural Story and Calling 18:40 – Coaching Men Through Change and Isolation 23:58 – What Is a Core Value and Why It Matters 29:15 – Dealing with Burnout, Overwhelm, and Character Gaps 34:30 – Coaching vs. Mentoring: Key Differences 38:05 – How to Ask for Mentorship Without Pressure 42:20 – Cohorts Preview: Marriage, Career, and Life Transitions 48:00 – The Mistakes That Hold Men Back 50:00 – Daily Habits to Cultivate Presence and Reflection 54:12 – Why Rest and Delight Are Non-Negotiable 58:35 – Flourishing in Male-Female Partnerships 1:03:10 – How to Get Involved with Citizen Seven 🔗 Learn more: https://citizen7indy.com 🎧 Subscribe for more conversations about male friendship, faith, and flourishing. Hashtags: #BigHeartedIndy #MensGrowth #ChristianLeadership #ExecutiveCoaching #CitizenSeven #Indianapolis #FaithInAction #Flourishing #RestoredLeader #CreatioSpace #Mentorship #CharacterFormation

57 min
Jun 5, 2025
Kraig Kinchen and Anderson White on Mentorship, Faith, and Giving Back

Dr. Kraig Kinchen and Anderson White join Greg Enas, Don Palmer, and Chris Spangle to share how faith, mentorship, and lifelong relationships have shaped their lives and careers. They reflect on building community, learning to see through others’ perspectives, and raising up the next generation. This episode also features Trey, a recent high school graduate exploring sound engineering through 100 Black Men of Indianapolis.

56 min
May 17, 2025
Rob Wynne and Tim Harris Sr.: Business, Education and Faith

In this episode of Big Hearted Indy, hosts Greg Enas, Don Palmer, and Chris Spangle speak with longtime Indianapolis leaders Rob Wynne and Tim Harris Sr. about their careers, friendship, and commitment to improving lives through business, education and community development. Wynne and Harris discuss how their professional relationship began with a major funding request—and quickly turned into a partnership rooted in shared values. Harris, founder and CEO of Harrison Ford Chemical Distribution, shares how he launched one of the nation’s leading Black-owned chemical distribution companies in 1994 after declining a $300,000 job offer. He describes how faith, family and community needs influenced his decision to build a purpose-driven company. The conversation also highlights the work of Turning Point Academy, a private school Harris founded on Indianapolis’s east side. Despite serving a high-poverty neighborhood, the school consistently earns A-ratings from the state of Indiana. Harris outlines how teacher quality, a disciplined environment, and faith-based motivation drive student achievement. Wynne, a business executive and civic connector, reflects on how his long-standing friendship with Harris has grown over time, offering insight into the power of collaboration and trust across racial and cultural lines. This episode covers a wide range of topics including: Black entrepreneurship in Indianapolis The founding and growth of Harrison Ford Chemical Distribution Private school education and academic success in underserved communities Faith-based nonprofit and global outreach efforts Local economic development and community revitalization The role of mentors, business leaders, and philanthropists in civic impact Big Hearted Indy is produced by Citizen 7, a men’s leadership and service organization based in Indianapolis focused on building authentic friendships and strengthening the city through community action. Timestamps and Chapters: 00:00 – Introduction to Big Hearted Indy 02:15 – Meet Rob Wynne and Tim Harris Sr. 07:00 – How Their Friendship Began 11:45 – The Founding of Harrison Ford Chemical Distribution 18:30 – Early Business Challenges and Faith-Driven Decisions 26:50 – Overview of Company Growth and Market Reach 32:15 – What Harrison Ford Distributes and Who They Serve 38:00 – The Impact of Turning Point Academy 45:20 – Indianapolis Education and Neighborhood Challenges 52:10 – Global Outreach: India, Kenya, and Zimbabwe 56:00 – Local Initiatives: Housing, Food Distribution, Deborah’s Place 1:02:30 – Reflections on Faith, Friendship, and Civic Leadership 1:09:15 – Final Thoughts on Giving Back and Building Indianapolis About the Podcast: Big Hearted Indy spotlights Indianapolis residents making a difference in business, education, faith, and community. The podcast features honest conversations with local leaders who are shaping the future of the city through service and collaboration. Learn more: Citizen 7: https://citizen7indy.com Turn

58 min
Apr 10, 2025
Toph Day and Matt Tyner Jr. on Balancing Friendship and Startup Leadership at Elevate Ventures

Join hosts Greg Enas, Chris Spangle, and guest host Ryan Davis as they chat with Matt Tyner Jr. and Toph Day from Elevate Ventures. We explore how genuine friendships, shared values, and impactful community work intersect in Indianapolis. Discover how Matt and Toph connected professionally, navigated entrepreneurship, and are making a difference by growing Indiana’s innovation ecosystem.

1 hr 5 min
Mar 10, 2025
Seth Morales & Brian Schutt on Faith, Friendship, and Leadership

Seth Morales (CEO of Morales Group) and Brian Schutt (co-founder of HomeSense) join Greg Enas, Chris Spangle, and guest host Fred Yeakey to discuss their lifelong friendship, faith-driven leadership, and the impact of their businesses on Indianapolis. They reflect on being childhood friends to community leaders, the importance of intentional relationships, and how their values shape their work. Seth shares insights on Morales Group’s mission to empower job seekers, while Brian talks about entrepreneurship, neighborhood revitalization, and balancing business with family. Tune in for a conversation on purpose, legacy, and the power of community.

44 min
Feb 12, 2025
Mentorship, Faith, and Friendship: Dave Neff and Chris Huxhold on Leading with Purpose

Join us as we explore the power of authentic friendship, community leadership, and faith-driven living with hosts Greg Enas, Don Palmer, and Chris Spangle. This episode features an inspiring conversation with Dave Neff and Chris Huxhold - two leaders dedicated to building deep connections and making a lasting impact in Indianapolis.Hear their story of how soccer, mentorship, and shared values forged a decade-long friendship that continues to grow through intentionality and purpose. From their day jobs at Purdue (Dave) and Elevate Ventures (Chris) to their passion for connecting and inspiring others, we discuss:  The importance of building meaningful friendships despite busy careers and family life. How intentionality shapes personal growth, faith, and service in their city. Tips for developing a network (not just a network), living with purpose, and mentoring the next generation. Plus, learn how Citizen 7 is bringing men across generations together for connection and impact—and how you can get involved.Connect with us at: citizen7indy.com

50 min
Jan 4, 2025
The Transformative Power of Decades-Long Friendships with Greg Enas and Mike Evans

In this episode of Big Hearted Indy, hosts Don Palmer and Chris Spangle sit down with Greg Enas and his best friend, Mike Evans, to discuss the importance of their connection through successful careers at Eli Lilly to impactful community leadership through initiatives like The Oaks Academy and Shepherd Community Center. Greg and Mike share insights from their decades-long friendship, reflecting on how their bond has shaped their families, careers, and service. Tune in to discover the transformative power of intentional relationships, mentorship, and living out faith to create lasting change in Indianapolis and beyond.

52 min
Nov 26, 2024
Deep Connections, Lasting Change: Friendship as a Catalyst for Personal and Community Growth with Glenn McDonald and Todd Fisher

In this episode, hosts Greg Enas, Don Palmer, and Chris Spangle are joined by Todd Fisher of Justice Ventures International and founding pastor of Trinity Church, and Glenn McDonald, retired Presbyterian pastor and founder of Zionsville Presbyterian Church. Together, they share the story of a 30-year friendship that transcends generational divides and discuss the transformative power of vulnerability, mentorship, and intentional relationships in strengthening communities. From navigating challenges and avoiding burnout to building impactful friendships, Todd and Glenn offer heartfelt insights and practical advice to inspire listeners to deepen their connections and live out their faith.  Justice Ventures International - https://www.justiceventures.orgGlenn McDonald - https://glennsreflections.com/Morning Reflections - https://glennsreflections.com/index.php/morning-reflections/

58 min
Nov 8, 2024
Authentic Friendships & Faith in Action with Jeff Brown and David McKissick

Jeff Brown, Lead Pastor at North City Church and David McKissick, founder of Cerebro Creative House join us to discuss the story of their 15-year friendship, their efforts to bridge gaps between the secular and religious communities, and their experiences collaborating on church and community projects. Learn how their friendship and faith drive impactful initiatives in the city and how they inspire others to build meaningful relationships. 28:45 Impact on Family and Personal Growth

51 min
Oct 3, 2024
Lessons From 50 Years of Friendship with Don Palmer and Steve Cosler

Don Palmer and Steve Cosler met at a Purdue fraternity rush party 50 years ago, and since that moment, they've built a deep friendship. Don and Steve join host Chris Spangle and guest host Aaron Story to share lessons about building a friendship through mountaintops and valleys.Video - https://youtu.be/VM7sIPGp9CI

47 min
Sep 6, 2024
Navigating Faith, Family, and Work in The City with Dave Neff, Rex Fisher and Mark Nottingham

Hosts Don Palmer and Chris Spangle welcome guest host Dave Neff, Rex Fisher and Mark Nottingham to the podcast to discuss their journeys of navigating careers, family life, and community investments. Listen in as they discuss their experiences with Edge Mentoring, Shepherd Community Center, and their entrepreneurial endeavors, providing valuable insights on balancing faith, work, and relationships in the vibrant city of Indianapolis.  Video - https://youtu.be/Gm8lrLaAhkQ Download the podcast here: https://link.chtbl.com/citizen7

50 min
Aug 8, 2024
Building Community: Isaac Bamgbose and Fred Yeakey on Transformative Development and Faith in Action

In this episode, we welcome Isaac Bamgbose and Fred Yeakey. Isaac, a real estate developer with New City Development, shares his journey from Nigeria to Indianapolis and his mission to create enriching community spaces. Fred, the Chief Partnerships Officer at Providence Cristo Rey High School, discusses his innovative affordable housing project for women recovering from addiction and his barbershop mentorship program.Visit citizen7indy.com to learn more, join the email list, and attend upcoming events. Tune in and be inspired by the positive change happening in Indianapolis. Exercising with Rosie - https://amzn.to/46FiCMK Frederick Yeakey - https://www.linkedin.com/in/frederick-yeakey-682925117/ Isaac Bamgbose - https://www.linkedin.com/in/isaac-bamgbose1/ The Barbershop Male Mentoring Podcast - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNxy2Jz_QqPIxJ9coTzmXeA Video - https://youtu.be/Ha7EnETWpeg Download the audio podcast - https://link.chtbl.com/citizen7 Subscribe on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm0WsfdKBmcWgliQnVsHyUg/  Join Heartbeat.chat - https://app.heartbeat.chat/citizen7/invitation?code=B32DD7

42 min
Jul 11, 2024
Sajan George on Redemptive Entrepreneurship and Turning Around Failing Schools

Join hosts Don Palmer, Greg Enas, and Chris Spangle on Big Hearted Indy as they welcome Sajan George, a passionate advocate for redemptive entrepreneurship. Sajan shares his journey from his roots in India to leading innovative educational initiatives in Indianapolis. Learn about his work with Praxis, a non-profit fostering redemptive entrepreneurship, and his efforts to turn around some of the worst-performing schools in the U.S. through Matchbook Learning. Discover how vulnerability, sacrifice, and a deep connection to God's heart have shaped Sajan's mission to make a meaningful impact in the community. Sajan's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/sajan-george-72521551/ Indy Redemptive Labs - https://www.indianapolis.redemptivelabs.org/ Praxis - https://www.praxislabs.org/ Video - https://youtu.be/2l0lXwoHWYM

46 min
Jun 4, 2024
David Lewis on Community Engagement and the 2024 US Olympic Swimming Trials

Join hosts Don Palmer, Greg Enas, and Chris Spangle as they welcome guest David Lewis on this episode of Big Hearted Indy presented by Citizens 7. David is a lifelong Indianapolis resident and former head of global taxes at Eli Lilly, and shares his inspiring journey of professional and personal service to the community. The conversation covers the importance of networking, the generational shift in leadership, the value of community service, and how Indianapolis is hosting the 2024 US Olympic Swimming Trials.

42 min
May 2, 2024
Empowering Indianapolis Youth Through Entrepreneurship and Mentorship

This month's guests are Scott Lingle and Aaron Story, who are working together on projects to support Indianapolis's youth through entrepreneurship and mentorship. Scott Lingle, who launched two tech startups after becoming a founder at age 45, now focuses on Side Hustle School to encourage entrepreneurship among the city's youth. Aaron Story, the president and CEO of Elevate since January 2018, is dedicated to developing the community through his roles as an active foster parent, basketball coach, and community builder. We explore the importance of creating cross-class relationships and providing opportunities for upward mobility through mentorship and entrepreneurship. The podcast highlights how engaging with and investing in young entrepreneurs can help address the city's lack of upward mobility, positioning Indianapolis 47th out of 50 in terms of upward mobility among major cities. We discuss the significance of relationship-building, the role of seed funding, and the potential for scaling these initiatives to benefit more students across Indianapolis. Side Hustle School - https://sidehustleschool.org/ Elevate Indy - https://elevateindy.org/ Scott Tingle - https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-lingle-a84a9b83/ Aaron Story - https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaron-story-5a0176a/

37 min
Apr 2, 2024
Introducing Citizen 7: A Community of Brotherhood, Service, and Faith

In this first episode of the Citizen 7 podcast, host Chris Spangle introduces founders Greg Enas and Don Palmer, who share the origins and mission of Citizen Seven. They delve into their personal backgrounds, their journey to forming a deep friendship, and the subsequent creation of Citizen 7 as a platform for men to build meaningful relationships, serve their community, and foster personal growth rooted in faith. The discussion highlights the organization's non-traditional approach to networking, emphasizing giving over taking, and creating an inclusive space for men to connect, share, and mentor each other. Join our Heartbeat community here: https://app.heartbeat.chat/citizen7/invitation?code=B32DD7