August 20, 2025
BTC248: Bitcoin’s Institutional Wave w/ Willy Woo, Max Kei, Efrat Fenigson, and Preston Pysh at Baltic Honeybadger (Bitcoin Podcast)
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A sharp panel debates Bitcoin’s “institutional phase”: BlackRock’s ETF as catalyst, SEC policy shifts on in-kind redemptions, and the boom in corporate treasury strategies. They probe Coinbase custody concentration, nationalization risks, Tether’s role, and why self-custody remains the antidote. AI’s influence on education and CBDCs vs private stablecoins round out a high-signal hour. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00 - Intro 03:11 - Why BlackRock’s spot ETF marked a cultural and capital tipping point. 05:31 - How SEC limits on in-kind redemptions and their reversal, shape market integrity. 08:56 - The difference between MicroStrategy’s preferred stock model vs convertible debt. 10:14 - Why concentrated Coinbase custody introduces fragility and what decentralizes it. 12:10 - The political “nationalization” risk and how institutions could be rugged. 17:45 - The case for denominating liabilities in fiat while stacking BTC. 19:50 - Pitfalls of copycat treasury companies timing the market (e.g., short-dated debt). 25:53 - How AI-driven discourse (e.g., Grok) accelerates Bitcoin education. 29:10 - Why private stablecoins (e.g., Tether) may outcompete CBDCs globally. 37:37 - The timeless lesson: make Bitcoin “un-ruggable” via self-custody. Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES P2P Bitcoin Trading Platform: Hodl Hodl . Event details: Baltic Honeybadger Conference . Conference sponsor: Debifi . Check out all the books mentioned and discussed in our podcast episodes here . Enjoy ad-free episodes when you subscribe to our Premium Feed . NEW TO THE SHOW? Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Stig, Clay, Kyle, and the other community members. Follow our official social media accounts: X (Twitter) | LinkedIn | | Instagram | Facebook | TikTok . Check out our Bitcoin Fundamentals Starter Packs . Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) here . Try our tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: TIP Finance Tool . Enjoy exclusive perks from our favorite Apps and Services . Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, The Intrinsic Value Newsletter . Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the best business podcasts . SPONSORS Simple Mining HardBlock AnchorWatch Human Rights Foundation Linkedin Talent Solutions Vanta Unchained Onramp Netsuite Shopify Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm