May 21, 2025
BTC235: Jack Mallers on XXI (21) and Strike Borrowing and Lending (Bitcoin Podcast)
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Explore the launch of Twenty One Capital, its strategic ties with Tether, SoftBank, and Cantor Fitzgerald, and how it compares to MicroStrategy or ETFs. Plus, Strike’s bold leap into secure Bitcoin lending. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00 - Intro 15:29 - How Twenty One Capital was formed and why now is the right time for a Bitcoin-native public company 17:16 - What SoftBank contributes beyond funding, including possible global Bitcoin adoption strategies 19:05 - How Twenty One differentiates itself from MicroStrategy and ETFs as a Bitcoin investment vehicle 19:55 - Why “Bitcoin Per Share” is used to track performance instead of traditional fiat metrics 27:31 - The ownership structure and governance dynamics between Tether, SoftBank, and other stakeholders 28:45 - Whether and how Strike and Twenty One will collaborate, and how CEO responsibilities are managed 31:26 - How the company navigates U.S. regulatory challenges, especially with Tether’s involvement 33:07 - The roadmap for Twenty One’s operational revenue beyond holding BTC 35:02 - The thinking behind Strike’s conservative Bitcoin-backed loans and their structure 35:40 - Lessons from the collapse of other crypto lenders and how Strike avoids similar risks 42:06 - The future of interest rates, accessibility, and transparency in Strike’s lending products 49:28 - Strike’s evolving role as a Bitcoin-native financial services platform – or neobank 51:54 - How both companies aim to promote financial sovereignty while balancing ease of use 57:05 - The biggest challenges on the horizon, from regulation to competition, and how they’ll be tackled Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Jack’s X Account . Learn more about Jack’s company: Strike . Check out all the books mentioned and discussed in our podcast episodes here . Enjoy ad-free episodes when you subscribe to our Premium Feed . NEW TO THE SHOW? Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Stig, Clay, Kyle, and the other community members. Follow our official social media accounts: X (Twitter) | LinkedIn | | Instagram | Facebook | TikTok . Check out our Bitcoin Fundamentals Starter Packs . Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) here . Try our tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: TIP Finance Tool . Enjoy exclusive perks from our favorite Apps and Services . Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, The Intrinsic Value Newsletter . Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the best business podcasts . SPONSORS Support our free podcast by supporting our sponsors : SimpleMining Hardblock AnchorWatch Human Rights Foundation Unchained Vanta Shopify Onramp HELP US OUT! Help us reach new listeners by leaving us a rating and review on Spotify ! It takes less than 30 seconds, and really helps our show grow, which allows us to bring on even better guests for you all! Thank you – we really appreciate it! Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://premium.theinvestorspodcast.com/ Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm