About this episode
This episode originally ran on January 6, 2025 on the Jokermen Podcast. Subscribe to Jokermen . The Jokermen and Josh Tillman discuss creative process, theories of schmaltz, The Beatles, mental health, fatherhood and breakfast, among other things Find more illuminating podcasts on the Talkhouse Podcast Network . Visit talkhouse.com to read essays, reviews, and more. Follow @talkhouse on Instagram , Bluesky , Twitter (X) , Threads , and Facebook .