About this episode
On the Gist, Steve Bannon making some sense. In the interview, David Plouffe is here to discuss his new book, A Citizen's Guide to Beating Donald Trump . He and Mike talk about strategy, lessons learned, Biden and Bernie, and Plouffe's podcast, Campaign HQ with David Plouffe . In the spiel, the stories we tell ourselves aren't always helpful. Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices