About this episode
On The Gist, Ken Stern explains why the deplorable label doesn't sit well with him, even if it's defensible. Stern is the author of Republican Like Me: How I Left the Liberal Bubble and Learned to Love the Right . In the Spiel, is life better in the U.S. or Europe? Mike considers it with David Plotz , CEO of Atlas Obscura . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices