About this episode
Ben Wittes has a term for the nonsense justifications he observes coming from the Trump administration. He calls it ENSH: errant national security horseshit. On Thursday's show, Wittes shovels up some of the larger ENSH dumps of the past two weeks. Wittes is editor in chief of Lawfare . In the Spiel, naming a long overdue Lobstar. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices