About this episode
Ralph Nader's second work of fiction, Animal Envy , imagines a world where animals can talk to people and start demanding rights. Nader says the fable is meant to prompt deeper thinking about our relationship with nature. "We need to talk about what-if, because if we don't, we can't kick in our idealism and imagine real possibilities," says the 82-year-old author and advocate. Nader also weighs in with his thoughts on the Trump presidency, and how to win a political argument. In the Spiel, Donald Trump's rockin' New Year's Eve. Sponsors: Stamps.com. Buy and print official U.S. postage right from your desk. Go to Stamps.com and use promo code gist for a 4-week trial plus a $110 bonus offer – including postage and a digital scale. And Blue Apron. Blue Apron's meal kits are delivered right to your door, and make cooking at home easy. Get your first THREE meals FREE by going to BlueApron.com/gist. Join Slate Plus! Members get bonus segments, exclusive member-only podcasts, and more. Sign up for a free trial today at slate.com/gistplus . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices