About this episode
On The Gist, dishonesty and the media. In the interview, Norbert Leo Butz is a Broadway powerhouse who's been in all sorts of projects like Wicked and Catch Me If You Can , but he's also a talented musician out with a new album, The Long Haul . He's here to talk with Mike about his new music, how he fit writing it into his life, and the business of Broadway. In the Spiel, is Donald Trump's presidency more dangerous than Andrew Johnson's? Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices