About this episode
On today's Gist, what's this about a Tony Award–winning dry cleaner? Presidential inexperience does not always lead to failed presidencies. Some traits can temper inexperience—like the depressive realism of Abraham Lincoln or Lyndon B. Johnson. Other traits magnify inexperience—like narcissism. Gautam Mukunda takes a close look at presidential inexperience in his 2012 book, Indispensable: When Leaders Really Matter . In the Spiel, Rudy Giuliani had a strategy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices