About this episode
Gabriel Roth, Carvell Wallace, and Katherine Goldstein discuss the welfare state critique of To Give a Mouse a Cookie, children's negotiating skills, potty training, Shrinky Dinks, and more. Plus an interview with Lauren Brody, author of The Fifth Trimester about the complications of going back to work after having a baby, and a listener question about whether to get back on IVF again. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices