About this episode
Whether or not religion is a part of your holiday season, there's great meaning to be gleaned from the secular traditions surrounding the winter solstice. Author and podcaster Sasha Sagan (daughter of the late science communicator Carl Sagan), shares her thoughts on having holiday spirit without a spiritual ideology. Pulitzer-winning composer David Lang also joins to discuss his hymn-inspired choral piece "poor hymnal," which has its New York premiere at Lincoln Center on Saturday. *This segment is guest-hosted by Kate Hinds