About this episode
Robert P. Jones , president and founder of Public Religion Research Institute ( PRRI ) and the author of The Hidden Roots of White Supremacy: And the Path to a Shared American Future (Simon & Schuster, 2023), Ryan Burge , associate professor of political science at Eastern Illinois University, research director for Faith Counts, and the author of The Nones: Where They Came From, Who They Are, and Where They Are Going (Fortress Press, 2021), and Konstantin Toropin , Military.com's Pentagon correspondent , discuss the overlap and contradictions in the Trump administrations policies toward identity and religious affiliation.