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Attorney General Bill Barr appeared to spar with Donald Trump in the latest chapter of the Roger Stone case. On this week’s On the Media, why the apparent interference in the Justice Department’s work should cause concern. Plus, Customs and Border Patrol builds a new bulwark against disclosure and transparency. And, a family migration story three decades in the making. 1. Dahlia Lithwick , writer for Slate, on what the latest Dept. of Justice news tells us about the fragility of American justice. Listen. 2. Susan Hennessey [ @Susan_Hennessey ], executive editor at Lawfare, on the latest threats to "prosecutorial independence." Listen. 3. Ken Klippenstein [ @kenklippenstein ], DC correspondent at The Nation , on Customs and Border Patrol (CBP)'s re-designation as a "security agency." Listen. 4. Jason DeParle [ @JasonDeParle ], author of A Good Provider Is One Who Leaves , on the 32-year process of reporting one family's migration story. Listen. Music from this week's show: In The Bath — Randy Newman The Artifact & Living — Michael Andrews String Quartet No. 5 — Philip Glass, performed by Kronos Quartet The Glass House - Marjanes's Inspiration — David Bergeaud Frail as a Breeze, Pt. 2 — Erik Friedlander The Thompson Fields — Maria Schneider On the Media is supported by listeners like you. Support OTM by donating today ( https://pledge.wnyc.org/support/otm ). Follow our show on Instagram , Twitter and Facebook @onthemedia, and share your thoughts with us by emailing onthemedia@wnyc.org.