About this episode
David Godman has lived in India since 1976, mostly in Tiruvannamalai, Tamil Nadu. He spent his time there studying and practicing the teachings of Sri Ramana Maharshi. His anthology of Ramana Maharshi’s teachings, Be As You Are, is probably the most widely read book on Sri Ramana’s teachings. During his fourteen-year stay at Ramanasramam (1978-92), he managed the ashram’s library, cataloged its archives, and recorded the stories and experiences of devotees who had had direct contact with Sri Ramana. David is the authorized biographer of two devotees of Sri Ramana Maharshi (Lakshmana Swamy and Papaji) who realized the Self in Sri Ramana’s presence and who later went on to become gurus themselves. He has written and published several other books that contain first-person accounts of devotees who moved closely with Sri Ramana Maharshi and who were transformed by his power and presence. In collaboration with two Tamil scholars, T. V. Venkatasubramanian and Robert Butler, he translated and edited several Tamil texts including two authoritative collections of Ramana Maharshi’s teachings that were originally recorded in Tamil verse. The three of them joined forces to bring out David’s most recent book, Sorupa Saram, a translation of a poem in which a 15th-century Tamil saint and Guru, Sorupananda, speaks authoritatively of his experience of the Self. In the 1970s David frequented Nisargadatta Maharaj’s satsangs in Mumbai. In the 1980s he was a regular visitor to the ashram of Lakshmana Swamy and Saradamma in Andhra Pradesh. When they moved to Tiruvannamalai in the early 1990s, he helped them to establish and landscape their new property at the foot of Arunachala, the holy mountain where Sri Ramana Maharshi spent all his adult life. For four years in the 1990s, he lived with Papaji in Lucknow and ended up writing or editing five books about him. In recent years he has written several long articles on Tamil saints, particularly those whose lives and works were often cited by Sri Ramana Maharshi. He is also engaged in a book-length project to bring out the biography and poetry of Guhai Namasivaya, a 16th century Tamil saint who lived on Arunachala and wrote extensively about its power and greatness. David Godman is married to Miri Albahari, a philosophy lecturer who teaches in Perth, Australia. He is based in India, but nowadays spends part of the year with Miri in Australia. Books: Be As You Are: The Teachings of Sri Ramana Maharshi (Compass) No mind, I am the self: The lives and teachings of Sri Lakshmana Swamy and Mathru Sri Sarada Living By the Words of Bhagavan Papaji: Interviews Nothing Ever Happened (three volumes): a 1,200-page biography of H. W. L. Poonja, also known as ‘Papaji’. Annamalai Swami Final Talks- teaching dialogues between Annamalai Swami and visitors to his ashram, recorded in the last six months of his life. The Power of the Presence -Transforming Encounters with Sri Ramana (Vol1) (three volumes): chapter-long accounts by devotees of Sri Ramana Maharshi that record their experiences of living with and being transformed him. The Power of the Presence (Part Two) The Power of the Presence (Part Three) Padamalai: Teachings of Sri Ramana Maharshi: Recorded by Muruganar Ramana Puranam- an edited and annotated 540-line poem that was jointly composed by Ramana Maharshi and Muruganar. The Fire of Freedom, Satsang with Papaji (The Fire of Freedom, Volume 1)- dialogues between Papaji and visitors that took place in his Lucknow home in 1991. Guru Vachaka Kovai (The Garland of Guru's Sayings)- a translation of 1,254 verses, recorded in Tamil by Muruganar, that record Ramana Maharshi’s teachings. Website: www.davidgodman.org Blog: http://sri-ramana-maharshi.blogspot.com YouTube channel Transcript of this interview. Discussion of this interview in the Batgap Community Facebook Group Second BatGap interview with David. Interview recorded October 12, 2013. YouTube Video Chapters: 00:00:00 - Introduction of Buddha at the Gas Station 00:04:19 - The importance of personal experience 00:08:04 - The ardent desire to pursue Lord Krishna 00:11:30 - Exploring the potential of Ramana’s existence 00:15:38 - The importance of not giving up on work and family 00:19:44 - A long road. 00:23:57 - "Real meditation" 00:27:53 - Don't expect one person to do someone else's job, it won't happen. 00:31:16 - The self that fulfills its mission 00:35:27 - The nature of happiness and self-exploration 00:39:55 - Obsessed with seeing visions of God 00:43:56 - His Topic: Qualifications to Become a Guru 00:47:53 - Definition of Guru 00:51:55 - The natural state of Ramana 00:58:08 - The Role of a True Guru 00:59:58 - The issue of high standards of enlightened beings and direct lineage 01:04:02 - Rick and David's discussion 01:08:28 - Behavior rooted in the Self 01:12:45 - Addiction beyond the body 01:16:55 - Differentiating Habits: Bandha and Bhoga 01:21:01 - Story: Judgment and characterization of truly enlightened people 01:25:32 - Your uncle and enlightenment 01:30:10 - Fear strikes. 01:34:41 - The attraction of Arunachal Hills 01:38:39 - How to personify absolute truth 01:42:34 - Explanation of heart and "heart" 01:46:45 - To function in this world 01:50:57 - A character in a dream world 01:55:29 - The relationship between physics and consciousness 01:59:45 - Creation, that's what Ramana means. 02:03:14 - Pop-ups and donation windows