About this episode
Saniel Bonder is the author of Healing the Spirit/Matter Split and the founder of the Waking Down in Mutuality work. He has been a pioneer in the widespread embodiment and mutual, evolutionary exploration of awakened consciousness for over a decade. Linda Groves-Bonder is Saniel’s full partner in their transmission and teachings and a Senior Teacher of Waking Down in Mutuality. Together they are now co-authoring a forthcoming book, The Human Sun, and founding Human Sun University. Saniel and Linda's sites: sanielandlinda.com TheHumanSunSeries.com heartgazing.com Summary and transcript of this interview Recorded 4/17/2011. Part 2 of this interview, recorded a week later. YouTube Video Chapters: 00:00:00 - Introduction of Saniel and Linda Groves Bonder 00:03:17 - A Quest for Spiritual Connection 00:07:17 - A Shift in Perspective 00:10:37 - The Door to a Whole Other World 00:14:08 - Discovering the Teachings of a Spiritual Teacher 00:18:20 - Awakening and the Awakening Process 00:22:26 - The Flamethrowers and the Opening They Created 00:26:48 - The Balance Between Self-Realization and Encountering Others 00:31:05 - The Awakening Process 00:35:15 - Integration and Awakening 00:38:35 - The Importance of Independent Thinking and Freedom from Dogma 00:42:29 - Questioning Catholic Beliefs 00:46:12 - Questioning the Catholic Faith 00:49:39 - A Journey of Exploration and Seeking 00:53:49 - Connectedness with Nature and Creatures 00:57:39 - Discovering Samuel Bonder 01:01:43 - Finding My Ground and Strength in Being 01:06:28 - Linda's Awakening Experience 01:10:16 - Awakening and the Pain of the World 01:13:41 - The Subtle Washing Machine Effect 01:17:34 - Awakening and Individual Capabilities 01:21:34 - The Post-awakening Process and the Challenges 01:25:36 - A New Developmental Model 01:30:15 - The Shift towards Differentiated Self-Awareness and Dissociation 01:34:48 - The Simultaneity of Consciousness and Matter Realizing Itself 01:38:35 - The Neo-Advaita Perspective 01:42:48 - The Emergence of a New Understanding 01:46:45 - The Agreement on Waking Down into Life 01:50:20 - The Importance of Guidance and Transmission in Awakening 01:54:56 - Awakened Leadership and Human Sun University 01:59:11 - Buddha at the Gas Pump