About this episode
Phil catches up with friend-of-the-show Esau McCaulley (New Testament Professor, NYT columnist, author of CT Book of the Year Reading While Black) for a wide-ranging conversation. Why do we keep getting MLK wrong? What do Black voices give up in order to be invited into white spaces, and is there a better way? What does McCaulley do to refocus on Jesus? And why did he decide his new book should be about, of all things, Lent?? McCaulley is a deep thinker AND a little bit of a goofball. Which makes his conversations with Phil always worth your time. Patreon Bonus: Click here for info about Holy Post Patreon Book Club patreon.com/holypost Holy Post merch store - https://www.holypost.com/shop 0:00 - Sponsor Join the World Relief giving community The Path worldrelief.org/holypost 0:46 - Intro 2:36 - Esau McCaulley interview 5:43 Martin Luther King Jr. 21:43 Systemic racism 28:01 Black voices in white spaces 41:50 Lent 45:58 End Credits Links mentioned The Kind of Revolution That Martin Luther King Jr. Envisioned by Esau McCaulley https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/15/opinion/martin-luther-king-woke-reparations.html @esaumccaulley Esaumccaulley.com Lent: The Season of Repentance and Renewal (Fullness of Time, 1) by Esau McCaulley https://amzn.to/3WXNodo Reading While Black by Esau McCaulley https://amzn.to/3Rzw1ys Josey Johnson's Hair and the Holy Spirit by Esau McCaulley https://amzn.to/3HUgndE https://www.holypost.com/ Support us and find premium content by going to https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.