About this episode
HARDtalk’s Stephen Sackur speaks to Thuli Madonsela, South Africa's Public Protector until late 2016. President Zuma's grip on power in South Africa appears to be weakened. He will relinquish leadership of the ANC at the end of 2017. Whether he will complete his term as South Africa's President is uncertain as allegations of cronyism and corruption pile up around his government. Thuli Madonsela exposed a web of worrying connections between the state and big business interests; but are her concerns about to be brushed off? (Photo: Former South African public protector Thuli Madonsela is presented with the Mahatma Gandhi Satyagraha Peace Award 2016. Credit: Rajesh Jantilal/AFP/Getty Images)