About this episode
Today on the flagship podcast of anti-steering provisions: 02:57 - The Verge 's David Pierce and Makena Kelly discuss Epic v. Google, a trial about the future of app stores. The Epic v. Google trial may come down to simple v. complicated Epic v. Google: a battle over Fortnite fees goes to court 28:49 - Liz Lopatto joins the show to detail her experience covering the Sam Bankman-Fried trial from start to finish. FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried is guilty of fraud Sam Bankman-Fried gambled on a trial and his parents lost 58:27 - Richard Lawler helps answer this week's Vergecast Hotline question. Disney’s new vision for ESPN might include part ownership by the NBA, NFL Disney finally revealed how many billions ESPN pulls in. Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or leave a voicemail at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices