Sen. Graham on Trump and Capitol Attack: “He plays the TV game and went too far here”

New audio tapes of Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham reveal his personal beliefs about former President Trump and his behavior on January 6, at one point saying that Trump “plays the TV game and went too far here.” Alex Burns and Jonathan Martin are both National Political Correspondents for The New York Times and are co-authors of the new book "This Will Not Pass: Trump, Biden and the Battle for America's Future.” They join AC360 to discuss the stark difference in Sen. Graham’s tone around the former President from January 6 to now. Plus, a deputy commander says Ukrainian soldiers are “badly wounded” but are still defending the Azovstal steel plant in Mariupol as they continue to face heavy shelling. CNN Senior International Correspondent Sam Kiley is in Kramatorsk, Ukraine and tells Anderson Cooper about the young Ukrainian civilians he’s met who have turned into soldiers on the front lines. Guests: Alex Burns, Jonathan Martin,Sam Kiley Air date: May 10, 2022 To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices