About this episode
Derek, the vocalist, from Defeater is the first guest to have sat down with me, more than once to complete this compelling chat about growing up punk, defining moments and how to keep your passion for independent music alive. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .