About this episode
In 2023, the N.F.L. players’ union conducted a workplace survey that revealed clogged showers, rats in the locker room — and some insights for those of us who don’t play football. Today we’re updating that episode, with extra commentary from Omnipresent Football Guy (and former Philadelphia Eagle) Jason Kelce. SOURCES: Tom Garfinkel , vice chairman, C.E.O., and president of the Miami Dolphins. Jim Ivler , certified contract advisor for players in the National Football League. Jason Kelce , host of New Heights podcast and former center for the Philadelphia Eagles. Jalen Reeves-Maybin , linebacker for the Detroit Lions and president of the National Football League Players Association. Betsey Stevenson , professor of public policy and economics at the University of Michigan. J.C. Tretter , former president of the National Football League Players Association and former offensive lineman. Mark Wilf , owner and president of the Minnesota Vikings. RESOURCES: “ N.F.L. Player Team Report Cards, ” by the National Football League Players Association (2024). " NFLPA team report cards: Dolphins rank No. 1; Jaguars jump from 28th to fifth; Commanders earn worst grade, " by Jonathan Jones (CBS Sports, 2024). Kelce , documentary (2023). “ The N.F.L. Cast Him Out; He Says That Only Makes Him More Powerful ,” by Alex Prewitt ( Sports Illustrated, 2022). New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce , (produced by Wave Sports + Entertainment). EXTRAS: " Why Don’t Running Backs Get Paid Anymore? " by Freakonomics Radio (2025) “ How Does Playing Football Affect Your Health? ” by Freakonomics, M.D. (2023). “ Why Does the Most Monotonous Job in the World Pay $1 Million? ” by Freakonomics Radio (2022). Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.