About this episode
In this long awaited interview, James Huntsman, a successful businessman and member of the Huntsman family, joins John Dehlin and fraud attorney Mark Pugsley to discuss his high-profile fraud lawsuit against the LDS Church—how he lost his LDS faith, why he pursued a fraud lawsuit to get a tithing refund, what he learned, and why he has no regrets. Show Notes YouTube 00:00:49 Brief overview of James Huntsman's lawsuit 00:07:27 Family background info 00:18:50 Served a mission at 18 00:22:21 Discussion of a kidnapping in their family 00:36:27 Emergence of Ensign Peak & church investments 00:49:58 Cracks start developing in James’ faith 01:03:03 What led to him deciding to file the suit 01:09:35 The downsides of him suing 01:17:00 Comparing the organized structure of his family’s business to the disorganization of the church 01:28:55 What sparked his desire to sue the church 01:37:00 “It was a very personal battle for me” 01:48:40 Statute of limitations for fraud 01:54:00 Everyone now knows how much the church has - floodgates of awareness have been opened to the churches bad financial dealings 02:07:00 James has no intention of damaging the church 02:14:15 The church today does not need members tithing 02:26:00 How did they feel after they filed? 02:44:20 Are churches protected from committing fraud 02:58:00 James feels relieved that it is all over, and they can talk about it now 03:11:29 Final thoughts & Conclusion Mormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon PayPal Venmo Our Platforms: YouTube Patreon Spotify Apple Podcasts Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117 Social Media: Insta: @mormstories TikTok: @mormonstoriespodcast Join the Discord