About this episode
A retired U.S. Marine Corps fighter pilot and current leadership instructor describes flying the F-16, the F/A-18, the F-22, and the F-35. He provides lessons from instructing at Top Gun, and the important behaviours for leaders. In the news, Boeing is fined for safety violations, the St. Louis strike continues, the NTSB preliminary report describes the air turbulence incident, and the creation of an aerospace hub at a former Air Force Base. Guest Dave Berke is a retired U.S. Marine Corps fighter pilot and current leadership instructor with Echelon Front . Dave is one of the rare few to have flown the F-16, F/A-18, F-22, and F-35. He also served as the Training Officer at TOPGUN, where he led the staff of instructors who trained the students in air combat tactics and leadership under pressure. He spent a year as a ground Forward Air Controller, calling in air strikes and supporting SEALs, Marines, and Soldiers in the Battle of Ramadi in 2006. Dave describes how a Marine pilot ended up flying the F-16 and F-22, and what it’s like to fly the F-35B with its STOVL capabilities. He compares different jet fighters he has flown and explains how they are different and how they are similar. We hear Dave’s thoughts on ground support aircraft and dedicated aircraft platforms in general. Dave tells us the combat environment is changing and how information and airframe flexibility are key now, as opposed to single-role platforms. Of course, we ask Dave if the Top Gun movies are accurate. His answer is both yes and no, but Top Gun: Maverick is very good from a flying standpoint. Dave tells us the jet fighter career path is more attainable than many people assume. Also, while flying ability is important, being a Top Gun Instructor hinges on being a good teacher. The Echelon Front leadership consultancy takes the lessons from combat and applies them to people’s personal and professional lives. In his new book, The Need to Lead: A TOPGUN Instructor’s Lessons on How Leadership Solves Every Challenge , Dave describes the 10 most important mindsets and behaviors for leaders that he learned from the cockpit. Order the book on Amazon , available October 21, 2025. Fighter pilot Dave “Chip” Berke. Aviation News FAA proposes to fine Boeing $3.1 million over widespread safety violations Between September 2023 and February 2024, the FAA found hundreds of quality system violations at Boeing’s 737 factory in Renton, Washington, and at subcontractor Spirit AeroSystems. The FAA also identified interference with safety officials’ independence and proposed a $3.1 million fine, the maximum statutory civil penalty authority consistent with law. The findings include: presenting two unairworthy aircraft to the FAA for airworthiness certificates, failure to follow its quality system rules, and a Boeing employee pressuring another worker to sign off on a non-compliant 737 MAX. Boeing has 30 days to respond. Press release: FAA Proposes $3.1 Million in Fines Against Boeing Boeing Defense, union reach tentative deal to end strike in St. Louis area On Wednesday, Boeing Defense and the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers reached a tentative 5-year contract agreement that would end a five-week-long strike in the St. Louis area. Striking Boeing workers reject latest offer However, on Friday, 57% of the IAM members voted to reject the agreement that would have increased the average wage from $75,000 to $109,000. The contract term would have increased from four years to five and included a ratification bonus of $4,000. Boeing says, “…no further talks are scheduled. We will continue to execute our contingency plan, including hiring permanent replacement workers, as we maintain support for our customers.” See: Boeing’s Terms of the Strike Settlement Offer [PDF] NTSB describes the turbulence that threw passengers around the cabin on a Delta flight In July, a Delta Air Lines flight from Salt Lake City to Amsterdam encountered severe turbulence over Wyoming and diverted to Minneapolis. Twenty-four 24 people were evaluated by paramedics, and 18 were taken to hospitals. Two crew members sustained serious injuries. In a preliminary report, the NTSB said The pilots had changed their flight path to avoid turbulence from storms, but the encounter caught them by surprise. The seat belt sign was off. The turbulence lasted two and a half minutes. People on board experienced up to 1.75 upward Gs, followed by a half G down. At one point, the plane’s wing dipped down as much as 40 degrees. AP reports, “The pilots likely believed they were in the clear after asking air traffic controllers to route them around the storms. But the NTSB charted the plane’s flight path over a radar report from the National Weather Service that showed the plane flew directly into a bright red section of the map showing the worst of the storm.” How a Global Aerospace Company Landed in Northern Maine Kansas City-based Aero Intelligence is a certified FAA/EASA 145 Repair Station that offers aircraft asset management, 24/7 AOG, disassembly, recycling, and records management services. Also, engineering support, recruitment services, Maintenance and Engineering Audits and Inspections, Aircraft Refurbishment & Interior Design, project management, and others. The Loring Development Authority wants to create an aerospace hub and bring new jobs to Aroostook County at the former Loring Air Force Base. Erin Applebaum Erin Applebaum, our Legal Liaison, attended the Boeing/DOJ deferred prosecution hearing on the Government’s motion to dismiss the criminal charge against Boeing regarding the 737-Max and Ethiopian Flight 302. The DOJ asked the judge to dismiss the charge, accept a non-prosecution agreement with a fine, and allow Boeing to select its own compliance consultant. Erin explains that, in an unprecedented move, the DOJ has declared in writing that it will not prosecute Boeing, even if the judge does not dismiss the charge. Erin is a Partner in the aviation practice at Kreindler & Kreindler LLP . She represents the interests of passengers severely injured or killed in general aviation and commercial airline accidents. 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