Hillary Clinton on the Psychology of Autocrats

The Washington Roundtable is joined by the former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Keren Yarhi-Milo, the dean of the School of International and Public Affairs at Columbia University, to discuss why interpreting the psychology of world leaders such as Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin, and Xi Jinping is essential to understanding global crises. Clinton also shares her thoughts on Gavin Newsom’s plan for redistricting in California, the Trump Administration’s free-speech crackdown in the wake of the Charlie Kirk assassination, and ABC’s decision to pull “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” off the air. “Jimmy Kimmel and all of the late-night comedians have certainly said a lot of things about me that I found painful, offensive, outraging. It never crossed my mind that I could call up and say, ‘Hey, get rid of this guy,’ ” Clinton says. “It’s all at the behest of the President, who wants to stifle and remove any opposition, and certainly anyone who makes fun of him.” Clinton and Yarhi-Milo’s new book, “ Inside the Situation Room: The Theory and Practice of Crisis Decision-Making ,” was published this week. This week’s reading: “ The Grave Threat Posed by Donald Trump’s Attack on Jimmy Kimmel ,” by Isaac Chotiner “ Israel’s New Occupation ,” by Ruth Margalit “ J. D. Vance, Charlie Kirk, and the Politics-as-Talk Show Singularity ,” by Andrew Marantz “ What the Video of Charlie Kirk’s Murder Might Do ,” by Jay Caspian King Tune in wherever you get your podcasts . The Political Scene draws on the reporting and analysis found in The New Yorker for lively conversations about the big questions in American politics. Join the magazine’s writers and editors as they put into context the latest news—about elections, the economy, the White House, the Supreme Court, and much more. New episodes are available three times a week. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices