About this episode
Jay Rinsen Chikyo Weik presents a talk and leads a discussion at the Toledo Zen Center on March 5, 2008. "The wise have nothing to do, while the unwise tie themselves in knots." -Relying on Mind, Seng-ts'an This talk works with some of the similarities of Taoist teachings with those of Zen. For more information about the Toledo Zen Center, please visit toledozen.org . The Toledo Zen Center is a member of the Hermitage Heart Sangha, online at hermitageheart.org .