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Former New Order bassist Peter Hook (author of the new book Substance: Inside New Order ) breaks down how Joy Division turned into New Order, remembers Ian Curtis, and much, much more in a hilarious, deep, career-spanning interview with host Brian Hiatt Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices