About this episode
Oprah Winfrey sits down with Bishop T.D. Jakes for a rare, unfiltered masterclass on calling, courage, ownership, and intention. From a Mississippi back porch with no electricity to building a global media empire, Oprah traces the moments that shaped her—how obedience to the call guided her decisions, why she negotiates for ownership (from 50% to 93% on The Oprah Winfrey Show ), how she learned to say “no” at the perfect time, and the intention framework that redefined her show and led to Emmys. They unpack the Color Purple contract lesson, the OWN pivot (turning a mistake into a miracle), money boundaries with family (“never give more than they’ve earned”), and how AI will transform medicine, education, entrepreneurship, and storytelling—plus the mental-health cost of always-on tech. This inaugural Next Chapter episode is for founders, creators, pastors, leaders, and anyone writing a new season of life. You’ll hear the inside stories—Maya Angelou’s mentorship, Beloved in Philadelphia, the Ku Klux Klan interview that changed the show’s DNA, Gayle King’s “banana pudding” bribe, and how a childhood Easter speech became the blueprint for a lifetime of purposeful broadcasting. Oprah’s advice to her younger self, the “six trees → forest” revelation, and Bishop Jakes’ coaching on decision-making and imposter syndrome (“stay there”) will meet you where you are—spiritually and strategically. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.