About this episode
Michael Truell (CEO of Cursor) sits down with Patrick Collison (CEO of Stripe) to discuss programming languages, the role of AI in programming, and building long-lasting software. 00:15 Why Patrick wrote his first startup in Smalltalk 03:35 LISP chatbots 06:09 Good ideas from esoteric programming languages 09:12 Brett Victor and Dynamicland 16:37 Programming human organizations 20:28 A codebase's "Big Bang" moment and MongoDB 25:49 Rewriting Stripe 32:00 How do you, Patrick Collison, use AI? 38:25 Changes to GDP/TFP 41:56 Programming human biology 46:10 Unexpected beneficiaries of AI