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In this episode of Lessons from the Game , former international rugby stars and coaches Gurthro Steenkamp and Ben Pegna sit down with Denis Betts , one of the most decorated rugby league forwards of all time, to uncover the truth behind elite performance. From a violent, working-class upbringing to lifting trophies with Wigan and coaching on the world stage, Betts reflects on a career defined not by talent alone—but by discipline, consistency, and the drive to grow . In this raw and wide-ranging conversation, they discuss: How discipline saved his life and kept him grounded through success Coaching men vs. women — and what most coaches get wrong Why elite players must lead with actions, not words Lessons from Wayne Bennett and the golden Wigan era Creating a supportive, high-performance culture in any team Why the real work begins when motivation fades Chapters 00:00 The Journey Begins: Discipline and Success 09:30 Coaching Women in Rugby: A New Perspective 09:59 Lessons from the Game: Discipline and Motivation 13:47 Overcoming Adversity: The Impact of Upbringing 19:03 The Legacy of a Rugby Legend: Achievements and Reflections 31:50 Transitioning to Coaching: Lessons Learned 40:35 Mindset Differences: Rugby League vs. Rugby Union 42:52 The Mindset of Elite Athletes 46:06 The Drive Behind Coaching 51:42 Understanding Gender Dynamics in Coaching 56:57 Building a Supportive Environment for Women in Sports 01:01:37 The Importance of Personal Commitment in Coaching 01:08:35 Leading by Example in Sports 01:12:57 The Coaching Philosophy of Wayne Bennett This episode is packed with powerful stories, coaching insights, and mindset lessons for players, coaches, and leaders chasing long-term success in rugby and life. 🔔 Don’t forget to LIKE, SUBSCRIBE & TURN ON NOTIFICATIONS for more rugby insights from top players & coaches! 📲 Follow us for more rugby content: 📩 Join Coach G’s Free Community - https://thescrumdominatormindset.mykajabi.com/offers/JNLUYzpi Follow us on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/lessonsfromthegamepodcast Follow Coach G on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ggsteenkamp Follow Ben on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/benpegna