8. P4P: How to Get Social Work Interns Paid w/ Jacqueline Guan & Jessica Riley, BSW

How do we get social work interns paid? In this episode, we chatted with Jess Riley, BSW, and Jacqueline Guan from Payment for Placements (P4P), a grassroots movement fighting to make paid internships the norm for social work students. Jess and Jacqueline share their organizing journeys, the realities of advocating for paid placements, and the larger impact this issue has on equity and access in our profession. We dig into how they've built momentum on their campuses, what strategies have worked to shift institutional mindsets, and how social workers everywhere can support this cause. Takeaways from this episode How field funds and legislation are being used as creative solutions to support interns The challenges of building relationships with underfunded agencies and shifting long-standing norms Why collaboration with faculty, admin, and NASW is key to creating systemic change How chapters can build momentum through petitions, protests, and policy work How a culture of underpayment starts with unpaid internships and how we push back Mentioned resources & transcript Check out the affiliated blog post for the full list of resources mentioned in this episode and the unedited transcript. Join the Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — a newsletter for the social worker wanting to level up their career and money. Want to support our work? Buy us a coffee Find Social Work to Wealth on Instagram , YouTube , or Facebook . Disclaimer: The information presented in this podcast & on any affiliated platforms are for educational, informational, & entertainment purposes only and should not be construed as legal, financial, or professional advice. Consuming this content does not create an attorney-client relationship. If you need legal advice pertaining to your particular situation, consult one-on-one with an attorney.