About this episode
Full Podcast Summary / Notes (Timestamped) 00:00-00:32 – Introduction Vince Russo , Killer Kross , and The Coach kick off the special episode focused on lifting the lid on wrestling’s business side. 00:32-01:25 – Setting the Stage The Coach shares the show’s mission: telling real business stories in wrestling, not rehashing TV storylines. Vince Russo reflects on booking Killer Kross & Scarlett and their unique star power. 01:25-02:26 – The “Stunning” Factor Vince Russo details why Scarlett stands out beyond typical wrestling beauty standards, emphasizing her movie star look and Kross’s charisma. 02:39-04:03 – Scarlett’s Reluctance & Trust Scarlett explains why she and Killer Kross rarely do interviews—and why they trust this show. 04:03-06:06 – The Interview Mindset Both discuss how they avoid sensationalized interviews and prioritize real, authentic conversations about wrestling. 06:07-07:13 – Life After WWE Insights on creative fulfillment, fan conventions, and branching out into projects like Scarlett’s paranormal channel and Kross’s book. 07:13-09:02 – Navigating the Indies Practical tips for wrestlers post-WWE: what sets experienced independents apart and how audience perceptions affect careers after release. 09:06-13:00 – WWE Creative & Triple H Vince Russo questions why such star potential goes untapped, and Killer Kross and Scarlett dissect the behind-the-scenes communication breakdowns and non-transparent creative decision-making. 13:00-16:14 – “Broken Telephone” & Promo Story A wild story from Killer Kross about being handed a controversial promo, discovering misinformation, and direct talks with Triple H. 16:16-21:24 – Authenticity vs. Control Scarlett and Killer Kross explain how their real, unscripted work online brought massive attention and merchandise sales, but was met with resistance from the company. 21:24-25:07 – Merch Success—Corporate Confusion How a viral promo led to record shirt sales, but generated internal frustration and bizarre pushback from WWE executives. 25:30-32:56 – Contract Negotiations & Fairness Revealing the manipulative tactics of WWE talent relations, teamwork between Kross and Scarlett, and why standing your ground matters more than chasing money. 33:01-42:28 – Creative Effort Backstage Comparison of how past stars like The Rock and Austin managed their brands versus Kross and Scarlett’s struggles—dream talent or pain in the ass? 44:26-47:03 – Money, Ticket Prices, and the New Wrestling Economy Discussing locker room reaction to rising ticket prices, backstage comp ticket restrictions, and why genuine passion beats money as a motivator. 47:29-50:14 – Why They Won’t Compromise Kross and Scarlett emphasize their partnership, fairness, and creative fulfillment over lucrative offers. 51:03-53:26 – Company Culture Shift: WWE to TKO Scarlett and Kross analyze how TKO’s management views talent vs. the old era. Are stars now interchangeable cogs in a brand-first machine? 54:36-57:32 – Life Beyond WWE: Advice & Inspiration The duo encourages released talent, sharing that freelancing in today’s indie scene can be more lucrative and liberating than ever—if you hustle. 58:09-59:59 – Building Your Own Brand Vince Russo credits Kross & Scarlett for branding themselves inside WWE, setting up for post-departure success. 01:00:01-01:01:08 – Mental Health & Happiness Why making money isn’t everything—the emotional toll behind the scenes and supporting friends through stress. 01:01:42-01:02:28 – What’s Next? TV, Paranormal, Oscars Scarlett teases her paranormal show’s future; Kross discusses potential movie projects and an Oscar-qualified film. 01:02:30-01:03:54 – Content Creation & The Future Insights into their YouTube process and creative hustle outside wrestling. 01:03:54-01:04:46 – Show Wrap & Reflections The Coach and Vince Russo reflect on the episode’s honesty, lessons, and the importance of self-confidence in wrestling. 01:04:46-End – Fan Q&A, Behind-the-Scenes Ribs, & Closing Segment Fan questions, wrestling stories, and a rib tale involving The Coach and Vince McMahon cap off a candid, value-packed hour. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.